Ifa is word of Orunmila and Orunmila is a messenger of God. kzread.info/dash/bejne/pIyLs4-ooNCTips.html Watch another fantastic History of Ifa and is relationship with other religions
@EniyanValentine4 жыл бұрын
Wow, this is a classic vid. Ahead of your time, Jaap...
@dannyzamora26606 жыл бұрын
bla bla bla bla bla bla
@edgarcolmenares4177 жыл бұрын
So wrong!
@reyortiz88228 жыл бұрын
its odi, dont be fooled people, this has nothing to do with ifa, people are commenting thank you, for what, you learned nothing, this is why ocha gets a bad name, cause of ass holes like this, if he wants ifa, then make the sacrafice and do the ifa ceromony, ifa does not talk threw the shells
@MusashiLoux8 жыл бұрын
Correct, I don't know where he get the "double odu ifa " thing, it's oddi, im actually trying to figure out what was he tryin to accomplish with this.
@woriwins9 жыл бұрын
Ufff..... I love it. How the hell didI not see that. I do it in obi all day yet never saw it in shell. Haha. Thanks!
@AlaKazaam10 жыл бұрын
you only use 12 for dilogun
@paulmunoz634810 жыл бұрын
Jaap did you prepare the dilogun to look that way? I have done countless readings and the dilogun fall in many different ways, also you are triying to mix water with vinegar...don't work that way. BTW when you say usually in your coment, readings are presice and acurate, there is no ifs or buts, remember theses are peoples lives and existence you are dealing with. Alafia
@Ifacodeofconduct10 жыл бұрын
Alaafia, Please visit world wide web ifaglobalsite com
@rodolfoblasser332910 жыл бұрын
1) Non of the Yoruba Divination Systems are influenced by probabilities. 2) In Irete Kutan is very well explained the hierarchy of divination systems, being Ifá superior to Diloggún. "LOS MEYIS DE IFA ENSEÑARON A LOS 16 CAWRIES A HABLAR A LOS ORISHAS." The Meyis (IFÁ) taught the 16 Cawries how to talk to the Orishas. 3) Oshá-Ifá is not a new-age kind of thing that you just change it by "thinking outside of the box".
@black031311 жыл бұрын
Odi
@black031311 жыл бұрын
One never mixes the two.EVER!!!
@selicleto11 жыл бұрын
To Japp, not sure what you are doing but , you are mixing apples and oranges. the shells has not nothing to do with the elekule ifa . I see your point about thinking out the box but the shells and ifa is two different entities. If you wanna know, it goes back to the story of yemaya and orula. I hate youtube because it gives any dummy to misinterpret the orisa religion and give false information. When I was coming up as a iyabo, santero and then babalawo this was all taboo to do this. Iboru
@lsalsa711 жыл бұрын
it was a one throw system...but it was foundthat the problem could be identified, but not the solution..so a second throw was developed called the tonti system
@lsalsa711 жыл бұрын
actually it's odi...there is not outside the box on technique...there is outside the box on the interpretation on the odu...diloggun represents the tonti system not the ifa system....if this is how you consult..god help your clients
@ogunbiyii77711 жыл бұрын
alafia.. its kongo real
@Boricuarikan122712 жыл бұрын
Ahh i see...got you ;) So Oyeku-Owonrin in Diloggun what would it be?
@jaapverduijn17012 жыл бұрын
No, it's Oyeku-Owonrin on the right, and Owonrin-Irete on the left. You're thinking INSIDE the box, try thinking OUTSIDE it!
@Boricuarikan122712 жыл бұрын
That odu is odi...This isn't Ifa this is Diloggun divining for babalochas only.
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Rest easy, Jaap…
stop making stuff up. Start studing.
Ifa is word of Orunmila and Orunmila is a messenger of God. kzread.info/dash/bejne/pIyLs4-ooNCTips.html Watch another fantastic History of Ifa and is relationship with other religions
Wow, this is a classic vid. Ahead of your time, Jaap...
bla bla bla bla bla bla
So wrong!
its odi, dont be fooled people, this has nothing to do with ifa, people are commenting thank you, for what, you learned nothing, this is why ocha gets a bad name, cause of ass holes like this, if he wants ifa, then make the sacrafice and do the ifa ceromony, ifa does not talk threw the shells
Correct, I don't know where he get the "double odu ifa " thing, it's oddi, im actually trying to figure out what was he tryin to accomplish with this.
Ufff..... I love it. How the hell didI not see that. I do it in obi all day yet never saw it in shell. Haha. Thanks!
you only use 12 for dilogun
Jaap did you prepare the dilogun to look that way? I have done countless readings and the dilogun fall in many different ways, also you are triying to mix water with vinegar...don't work that way. BTW when you say usually in your coment, readings are presice and acurate, there is no ifs or buts, remember theses are peoples lives and existence you are dealing with. Alafia
Alaafia, Please visit world wide web ifaglobalsite com
1) Non of the Yoruba Divination Systems are influenced by probabilities. 2) In Irete Kutan is very well explained the hierarchy of divination systems, being Ifá superior to Diloggún. "LOS MEYIS DE IFA ENSEÑARON A LOS 16 CAWRIES A HABLAR A LOS ORISHAS." The Meyis (IFÁ) taught the 16 Cawries how to talk to the Orishas. 3) Oshá-Ifá is not a new-age kind of thing that you just change it by "thinking outside of the box".
Odi
One never mixes the two.EVER!!!
To Japp, not sure what you are doing but , you are mixing apples and oranges. the shells has not nothing to do with the elekule ifa . I see your point about thinking out the box but the shells and ifa is two different entities. If you wanna know, it goes back to the story of yemaya and orula. I hate youtube because it gives any dummy to misinterpret the orisa religion and give false information. When I was coming up as a iyabo, santero and then babalawo this was all taboo to do this. Iboru
it was a one throw system...but it was foundthat the problem could be identified, but not the solution..so a second throw was developed called the tonti system
actually it's odi...there is not outside the box on technique...there is outside the box on the interpretation on the odu...diloggun represents the tonti system not the ifa system....if this is how you consult..god help your clients
alafia.. its kongo real
Ahh i see...got you ;) So Oyeku-Owonrin in Diloggun what would it be?
No, it's Oyeku-Owonrin on the right, and Owonrin-Irete on the left. You're thinking INSIDE the box, try thinking OUTSIDE it!
That odu is odi...This isn't Ifa this is Diloggun divining for babalochas only.