What a self-important, egotistical shrew. This woman is an expert in the humble (and not so humble) brag, cloaking her boastfulness in the guise of repentance. She constantly refers to herself as a professor, yet she was a professor for only 10 years, and ended that career over 20 years ago. She loves talking about how she teaches her university students, yet she hasn't had university students in over 20 years. Her assertions, many of them theologically erroneous, are filled with inner circle jargon and "I" statements, and she never misses an opportunity to drop exclusive lingo like "covenant marriage, creation mandate, teleological, ontological," etc. And the ultimate arrogance is her thinking that she can sit in judgement of John Piper. It's obvious that all she has done is transfer the loud stridency of her former gay activism onto her current Puritan activism. She has a lot of head knowledge (which she loves to show off), but that doesn't seem to have given her any true humility or grace or love. Jesus had a couple of things to say about people like that.
@caryhughes68132 күн бұрын
What mic are you and Joe using?
@dustinhollingsworth86944 күн бұрын
I never tire of the set up for the ant/aunt joke
@jesusrocks2564 күн бұрын
Sean is a true comedy genius. Sincerely, Sean.
@dustinhollingsworth86944 күн бұрын
@@jesusrocks256 best was when you hit the Moscow crew with the race joke to open…. I felt all my body openings close.
@jesusrocks2563 күн бұрын
@@dustinhollingsworth8694 It definitely set the tone. :)
@jacksonkeith11144 күн бұрын
Would love to see some timestamps here like y’all’s previous episodes. Keep it up!
@jesusrocks2564 күн бұрын
On their way!
@Celticbavarian4 күн бұрын
More understanding of ecclesiology is needed, absolutely. But I’m not sure how solid Jonathan Leeman is given his response to MacArthur’s decision to keep his church open during the early days of Covid. 🤔
@jesusrocks2564 күн бұрын
Friend, I'd encourage you to read some of his books and see whether or not they make sense of scripture, and not judge a man's entire ministry based on how he handled one of the most difficult pastoral situations in recent history. Grace and peace!
@Celticbavarian3 күн бұрын
@@jesusrocks256 👍😊
@drfoxcourt7 күн бұрын
We don't even have a reason to believe there is a God, and the whole thing is more explicable.
@joshuastevens2328 күн бұрын
By this logic should we not identify as sinners?
@MartyMcFly10859 күн бұрын
“No room for nuance!” Hmmmmmm… and Christian’s are full of nuance, right? You are happy to provide alternative explanations and reasons for core doctrine like the resurrection, right? Is there any nuance in your view over marriage? Gender roles? Gender? Or are you a bit rigid about those things? I think what you mean to say is that you expect nuance from those deconstructing from your non nuanced, dogmatic, bigoted worldview. Quit insulting the intelligence of everyone that doesn’t believe your superstition.
@jasonsomers822411 күн бұрын
49:00 Wouldn't good works be self justified. You do what is good because it is good.
@jonathancollins109912 күн бұрын
For me, Deconstruction was like being made spiritually alive.
@markghero12 күн бұрын
We evolved we were not created
@jesusrocks25612 күн бұрын
You don't live like this is true.
@tedlewis2414 күн бұрын
"Godless culture." More "I'm being persecuted" horse-shit. Shut up.
@loganholdaway76918 күн бұрын
Eve in Exile by Rebeka Merkel is the best book on the subject of Biblical Womanhood. Be leery of The Making of Biblical Womanhood by Beth Allison Barr. It was one of the first steps my best friends wife had when she deconstructed. She's now an avid athiest.
@jesusrocks25617 күн бұрын
Correct on both accounts.
@dustinhollingsworth869418 күн бұрын
Bro you did some work at cross con ha. Unless this wasn’t taped there. Appreciated you sharing there and this podcast my brother
@jesusrocks25618 күн бұрын
Yeah buddy, we did a lot of interviews. Thanks for the encouragement, friend.
@dustinhollingsworth869413 күн бұрын
@@jesusrocks256 where can I shoot you an email?
@wadelindsey970719 күн бұрын
What is EFS?
@orthodoxuniversalist19 күн бұрын
I’m about 35 minutes in and loving this! It’s awesome to hear two authentic, committed, discerning pastors talk shop. Thank you both for your ministries and for this conversation.
@craftsewcute509220 күн бұрын
Does anyone know her contact info...email?
@mellaoct20 күн бұрын
This guy was getting impatient with how much she wanted to share… he was more worried about out staying on track (and just looked stressed, anxious and worried in general). 22:10 Maybe he’ll listen to this recording again when he takes stuff off his plate that others shoved there, and truly let her guided words of wisdom sink in.
@pawelk865822 күн бұрын
Deuteronomy 23:1 “No one whose testicles are crushed or whose male organ is cut off shall enter the assembly of the Lord."
@bobbycpr24 күн бұрын
It's easier to keep people from seeing the entire puzzle when you keep them focused on individual pieces.
@PLA520725 күн бұрын
Remember Catholic priests as well.
@troyzieman717725 күн бұрын
You are right the bible is silly
@thomasnickel127826 күн бұрын
Being an evangelical in itself is absurd.
@mikeymullins530526 күн бұрын
If you want to know more about the bible, read the apochraphyal books
@dp624026 күн бұрын
We need more book by book chapter by chapter teachings I can’t find any local churches near me that do that Only Athey Creek online
@Mike_MFn_Jones26 күн бұрын
Study the Bible chapter by chapter verse by verse , the only skipping to other chapters & verses should be those referenced in the appendix, the proper Hebrew Greek translation and definition and have an open mind to look into every interpretation to make one's own mind up based on how it locks into the teachings of Christ. Recently I Found Esdras 2 chpt 7 and Matt 7 to be the same teaching of the Narrow hard path to Heaven.
@cufflink4426 күн бұрын
Psalms 137:9
@ConversationswithaCalvinist26 күн бұрын
The fact that you’re both holding the SM7B mics instead of them being on a stand is driving me bananas!
@pebbles13326 күн бұрын
One problem i have with the death penalty is that we have to draw a line on what we consider an "unforgivable" crime. Depending on the system or leadership we operate under, that can be a slippery slope.
@ormu195327 күн бұрын
Rosario Butterfield is voicing some hard-hitting truths. Particularly concerning the struggle against indwelling sin.
@jesusrocks25628 күн бұрын
If you haven't read the book, make sure you do.
@imgingergiraffe373128 күн бұрын
The real problem is that you can't guarantee that 100% of death penalty verdicts, will be given to GUILTY people. If even 1 person is put to death for something they did not do. Thats too many.
@jesusrocks25628 күн бұрын
It wasn't a problem under the Mosaic Law.
@imgingergiraffe373127 күн бұрын
@@jesusrocks256 yes it was 😂 Just because we have the ten commandments, doesn't mean justice is 100% accurate. Unless GOD HIMSELF was the one passing judgement, and punishment, then it was flawed. Flawed and sinful humans cannot be entrusted with a decision of another man's life. Now get your religion out of my logic, thank you. 😂😂
@montanaperkins941829 күн бұрын
I wonder why he didn’t just call out the people he was talking about. Would that not be helpful to the sheep in his mind?
@sarrattster5411Ай бұрын
ALL THIS! Just for a few to praise Him? If God only allowed a million to live, basically only 1,000 are going to Heaven. I just can’t get passed trillions of souls over time that God apparently knew were going to fail Him burning in hell for ETERNITY!!?? That’s like my wife and I being told that if we have children, there is a 50/50 chance that each child could be down syndrome or have some kind of deformity or illness, but we go ahead and have 20 kids anyway. Why would we do that to all those other children that are unfortunate? All their suffering for their whole lives just for us to have a few normal kids…and we don’t want them because they aren’t what we expect so we build a barn to lock them in with no AC. God has to be more loving, caring, and considerate than this. Forgiveness is so important, but all the sudden it won’t be?!
@hagoptАй бұрын
Excellent podcast! Thank you. Please share that spreadsheet, brother!
@jesusrocks25628 күн бұрын
Waiting for a response from Greg!
@TheCamGАй бұрын
Where do I find Sean’s video on Critical Pedagogy?
@starmountpicturesАй бұрын
OK boomer. It's time to take the car keys from Grandpa.
@Jo1844Ай бұрын
“The seats of the Gospel is in the garden. There is NO fruit of the spirit that just kind of dangles apart from the creation ordinance”. Amen!!!! This is why the satan attacks the literal creation narrative in Genesis.
@dannyrey3403Ай бұрын
What is the "teleology" between Rosaria and J Piper??
@meowkie8549Ай бұрын
Ah yes , missionary, my favorite position
@Yesica1993Ай бұрын
I listen to way too many podcasts. But this was SO good! I love that she always brings things back to repentance and killing your sin. This is the transformative power of the gospel that is so rarely taught! That point is why there are so many people who sit in Bible teaching churches for years, and yet their lives are not changed. One point that I wish had been explained was the "regulative principle of worship." Going forward, please always define terms. Not all of us may know them. I believe it has to do with the fact that Scripture regulates how we are to worship? But no one ever goes into detail about what that exactly entails. I've always been lost on this. Anyway, thank you again. Rosaria Butterfield and I are only a few years apart, but I still want to be her when I grow up. This is how I long to live my life. I want to love and serve Christ completely. And I fall so far short that, most days, it leaves me in despair.
@Yesica1993Ай бұрын
I appreciated so much that she said how hard it was to always be giving her testimony. I've always wondered about that with people. It has to get to you, having to revisit dark, painful times in your past and having to do it over and over and over. I respect her for being honest about the toll it took on her. I greatly appreciate her ministry, but I understand when people need to take a step back. It has to be exhausting emotionally. And, as she said, the spiritual battle has to be intense. We don't talk about that enough! We put people like her on a pedestal, as though they no longer struggle. We will always struggle in this life. Only Christ is our anchor and strength.
@Yesica1993Ай бұрын
35:14 ... when referring to all people we have begun using feminine pronouns instead of masculine pronouns" I wish examples had been given. I'm not sure what they meant.
@Yesica1993Ай бұрын
What is the article that was mentioned about 28 minutes in?
@TylerWilhelm-tj8twАй бұрын
Comments are crazy
@mbpeach68Ай бұрын
What conference are they talking about at 12:41? It's a missions conference attended by 11,000 college students.
@LLBlackhawk-mc3sqАй бұрын
Great wisdom Rosario with spokesperson thing with young Christians!
@ricardoestrada9579Ай бұрын
The bond which is in Christ Jesus breaks down barriers,and unites us by the love of Almighty god.
@susanna95800Ай бұрын
Very interesting. Are they going to have one of the Missions Courses in Huntsville?
@jesusrocks256Ай бұрын
I hope they respond!
@SethCussonАй бұрын
Out of context quotes: “Go rob a bank, that would be a better idea.”
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What a self-important, egotistical shrew. This woman is an expert in the humble (and not so humble) brag, cloaking her boastfulness in the guise of repentance. She constantly refers to herself as a professor, yet she was a professor for only 10 years, and ended that career over 20 years ago. She loves talking about how she teaches her university students, yet she hasn't had university students in over 20 years. Her assertions, many of them theologically erroneous, are filled with inner circle jargon and "I" statements, and she never misses an opportunity to drop exclusive lingo like "covenant marriage, creation mandate, teleological, ontological," etc. And the ultimate arrogance is her thinking that she can sit in judgement of John Piper. It's obvious that all she has done is transfer the loud stridency of her former gay activism onto her current Puritan activism. She has a lot of head knowledge (which she loves to show off), but that doesn't seem to have given her any true humility or grace or love. Jesus had a couple of things to say about people like that.
What mic are you and Joe using?
I never tire of the set up for the ant/aunt joke
Sean is a true comedy genius. Sincerely, Sean.
@@jesusrocks256 best was when you hit the Moscow crew with the race joke to open…. I felt all my body openings close.
@@dustinhollingsworth8694 It definitely set the tone. :)
Would love to see some timestamps here like y’all’s previous episodes. Keep it up!
On their way!
More understanding of ecclesiology is needed, absolutely. But I’m not sure how solid Jonathan Leeman is given his response to MacArthur’s decision to keep his church open during the early days of Covid. 🤔
Friend, I'd encourage you to read some of his books and see whether or not they make sense of scripture, and not judge a man's entire ministry based on how he handled one of the most difficult pastoral situations in recent history. Grace and peace!
@@jesusrocks256 👍😊
We don't even have a reason to believe there is a God, and the whole thing is more explicable.
By this logic should we not identify as sinners?
“No room for nuance!” Hmmmmmm… and Christian’s are full of nuance, right? You are happy to provide alternative explanations and reasons for core doctrine like the resurrection, right? Is there any nuance in your view over marriage? Gender roles? Gender? Or are you a bit rigid about those things? I think what you mean to say is that you expect nuance from those deconstructing from your non nuanced, dogmatic, bigoted worldview. Quit insulting the intelligence of everyone that doesn’t believe your superstition.
49:00 Wouldn't good works be self justified. You do what is good because it is good.
For me, Deconstruction was like being made spiritually alive.
We evolved we were not created
You don't live like this is true.
"Godless culture." More "I'm being persecuted" horse-shit. Shut up.
Eve in Exile by Rebeka Merkel is the best book on the subject of Biblical Womanhood. Be leery of The Making of Biblical Womanhood by Beth Allison Barr. It was one of the first steps my best friends wife had when she deconstructed. She's now an avid athiest.
Correct on both accounts.
Bro you did some work at cross con ha. Unless this wasn’t taped there. Appreciated you sharing there and this podcast my brother
Yeah buddy, we did a lot of interviews. Thanks for the encouragement, friend.
@@jesusrocks256 where can I shoot you an email?
What is EFS?
I’m about 35 minutes in and loving this! It’s awesome to hear two authentic, committed, discerning pastors talk shop. Thank you both for your ministries and for this conversation.
Does anyone know her contact info...email?
This guy was getting impatient with how much she wanted to share… he was more worried about out staying on track (and just looked stressed, anxious and worried in general). 22:10 Maybe he’ll listen to this recording again when he takes stuff off his plate that others shoved there, and truly let her guided words of wisdom sink in.
Deuteronomy 23:1 “No one whose testicles are crushed or whose male organ is cut off shall enter the assembly of the Lord."
It's easier to keep people from seeing the entire puzzle when you keep them focused on individual pieces.
Remember Catholic priests as well.
You are right the bible is silly
Being an evangelical in itself is absurd.
If you want to know more about the bible, read the apochraphyal books
We need more book by book chapter by chapter teachings I can’t find any local churches near me that do that Only Athey Creek online
Study the Bible chapter by chapter verse by verse , the only skipping to other chapters & verses should be those referenced in the appendix, the proper Hebrew Greek translation and definition and have an open mind to look into every interpretation to make one's own mind up based on how it locks into the teachings of Christ. Recently I Found Esdras 2 chpt 7 and Matt 7 to be the same teaching of the Narrow hard path to Heaven.
Psalms 137:9
The fact that you’re both holding the SM7B mics instead of them being on a stand is driving me bananas!
One problem i have with the death penalty is that we have to draw a line on what we consider an "unforgivable" crime. Depending on the system or leadership we operate under, that can be a slippery slope.
Rosario Butterfield is voicing some hard-hitting truths. Particularly concerning the struggle against indwelling sin.
If you haven't read the book, make sure you do.
The real problem is that you can't guarantee that 100% of death penalty verdicts, will be given to GUILTY people. If even 1 person is put to death for something they did not do. Thats too many.
It wasn't a problem under the Mosaic Law.
@@jesusrocks256 yes it was 😂 Just because we have the ten commandments, doesn't mean justice is 100% accurate. Unless GOD HIMSELF was the one passing judgement, and punishment, then it was flawed. Flawed and sinful humans cannot be entrusted with a decision of another man's life. Now get your religion out of my logic, thank you. 😂😂
I wonder why he didn’t just call out the people he was talking about. Would that not be helpful to the sheep in his mind?
ALL THIS! Just for a few to praise Him? If God only allowed a million to live, basically only 1,000 are going to Heaven. I just can’t get passed trillions of souls over time that God apparently knew were going to fail Him burning in hell for ETERNITY!!?? That’s like my wife and I being told that if we have children, there is a 50/50 chance that each child could be down syndrome or have some kind of deformity or illness, but we go ahead and have 20 kids anyway. Why would we do that to all those other children that are unfortunate? All their suffering for their whole lives just for us to have a few normal kids…and we don’t want them because they aren’t what we expect so we build a barn to lock them in with no AC. God has to be more loving, caring, and considerate than this. Forgiveness is so important, but all the sudden it won’t be?!
Excellent podcast! Thank you. Please share that spreadsheet, brother!
Waiting for a response from Greg!
Where do I find Sean’s video on Critical Pedagogy?
OK boomer. It's time to take the car keys from Grandpa.
“The seats of the Gospel is in the garden. There is NO fruit of the spirit that just kind of dangles apart from the creation ordinance”. Amen!!!! This is why the satan attacks the literal creation narrative in Genesis.
What is the "teleology" between Rosaria and J Piper??
Ah yes , missionary, my favorite position
I listen to way too many podcasts. But this was SO good! I love that she always brings things back to repentance and killing your sin. This is the transformative power of the gospel that is so rarely taught! That point is why there are so many people who sit in Bible teaching churches for years, and yet their lives are not changed. One point that I wish had been explained was the "regulative principle of worship." Going forward, please always define terms. Not all of us may know them. I believe it has to do with the fact that Scripture regulates how we are to worship? But no one ever goes into detail about what that exactly entails. I've always been lost on this. Anyway, thank you again. Rosaria Butterfield and I are only a few years apart, but I still want to be her when I grow up. This is how I long to live my life. I want to love and serve Christ completely. And I fall so far short that, most days, it leaves me in despair.
I appreciated so much that she said how hard it was to always be giving her testimony. I've always wondered about that with people. It has to get to you, having to revisit dark, painful times in your past and having to do it over and over and over. I respect her for being honest about the toll it took on her. I greatly appreciate her ministry, but I understand when people need to take a step back. It has to be exhausting emotionally. And, as she said, the spiritual battle has to be intense. We don't talk about that enough! We put people like her on a pedestal, as though they no longer struggle. We will always struggle in this life. Only Christ is our anchor and strength.
35:14 ... when referring to all people we have begun using feminine pronouns instead of masculine pronouns" I wish examples had been given. I'm not sure what they meant.
What is the article that was mentioned about 28 minutes in?
Comments are crazy
What conference are they talking about at 12:41? It's a missions conference attended by 11,000 college students.
Great wisdom Rosario with spokesperson thing with young Christians!
The bond which is in Christ Jesus breaks down barriers,and unites us by the love of Almighty god.
Very interesting. Are they going to have one of the Missions Courses in Huntsville?
I hope they respond!
Out of context quotes: “Go rob a bank, that would be a better idea.”
A shirt for their next fundraiser? 🤪