Would love to understand why you need to do each bit? What would happen if you didn’t remove the vales? Etc? Sorry that’s probably really obvious to you
@marty67795 күн бұрын
It's so surreal to see an engine from my country in Wales... Fits right in though. Wonderful shots!
@shawngoldsberry7475 күн бұрын
People behind you from miles are calling you everything but a human
@MrJonesthesteam11 күн бұрын
Tom, you use your knee to push the drains shut while unwinding the brake as you want to pull away at a junction 😊
@jeffmiller315013 күн бұрын
Very beautiful machine! What's the location of the test run?
@IACooper12 күн бұрын
South Staffs, not far from Wolverhampton. The engine will be moving to Shropshire before too long.
@mykeready374213 күн бұрын
Absolutely loving that. 😍😍😍. I’ve never seen one before. Normally it’s Aveling’s, Burrell’s, Wallis, Tasker’s and Fowlers.
@IACooper13 күн бұрын
There's another based not far from here, a 2 speed version. The one in this video is 3 speed. It's a lovely engine in superb condition.
@Mason5865413 күн бұрын
Complete with a coat of arms! Beautiful machine! Keep steaming!
@FlyingForFunTrecanair14 күн бұрын
A transport of delight!
@garryowen667114 күн бұрын
What a lovely quiet machine that is.
@IACooper14 күн бұрын
Indeed - silent apart from the bark!
@toysrus241314 күн бұрын
Hey I live in North Wales (Anglesey) and looking at some of your video titles, maybe you do too... If so and you ever need some extra hands let me know! I would love to help you out on your engine if you ever need it. For free of course haha. Loved steam all my life but have only ever been to a few rallies. I want to build one some day
@IACooper14 күн бұрын
I'm a couple of hours drive from Anglesey on the English side of the border, but Wales is where I work and often my playground at a weekend.
@toysrus241314 күн бұрын
@@IACooper Cool. I see. Thanks for getting back to me
@toysrus241314 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video. Great stuff
@archmcdonald617016 күн бұрын
Thank you for replying to my comment, I didn't know that steam rollers & I presume traction engines the the tubes were not beaded. That means that the new tube ends are flush with the face of the tube plate.
@IACooper16 күн бұрын
They're not flush, they do protude a small amount, but not too far else they'll overheat and burn back. At 3:35 you can see the protrusion being checked. You're right in essence though, the first step of extraction was to grind off that protusion so they _are_ flush with the tubeplate. At 0:46 as the tube is being pulled out you can see the ends of the surrounding tubes have been ground back to the tubeplate, before they were then heated and cooled and given a squirt of oil whilst still hot to all help get them to contract back a bit and break the seal. Once they were all out everything was cleaned up and dye-penetration tested - which is why at the 3 minute mark the tubeplate is white from the remnants of the test developer and has light rust marks on it from having all been fully degreased and cleaned for the testing done a week or so earlier.
@tomstandish670416 күн бұрын
Great that you used the proper older spanners on it
@IACooper16 күн бұрын
When I got the roller it didn't come with any tools and I didn't have anything to fit either. The first couple of months were spent mooching around the stalls at steam rallies picking up large looking old spanners for a pound or two each. Over the course of the summer I ended up with a dirt cheap set of spanners for it. The older style feel much better if you need to give a little percussive persuasion as well.
@archmcdonald617016 күн бұрын
Did you bead the tubes over in the fire box?
@IACooper16 күн бұрын
Nope - like most road steam boilers in the UK, it doesn't have beaded ends. The length is positioned to only just protude past the tubeplate so they don't overheat and burn back.
@archmcdonald617016 күн бұрын
the most important of the tube removal was taking the beaded end off in the firebox.
@IACooper16 күн бұрын
Like most road steam boilers in the UK, this didn't (and still doesn't) have beaded ends (unlike rail boilers which usually do). Even so, still worth grinding flat to prevent the crusty protruding bit snagging or the end distorting and wedging. Even having done that, they're still drum tight and as I'm working alone I went around both ends of each tube with oxy-propane to heat them up to red heat to then let them cool and contract slightly to just break the seal. That probably took longer than having an assistant bonking tubes with a hammer whilst applying steady hydaulic pressure at the same time, but was a *lot* less effort, especially working solo. Having done all the prep the day before, they all effortlessly pulled out - the monotonous bit was constantly going back and forth to reload for the next tube.
@steamtrainmark16 күн бұрын
Hi Ian, great video and thanks showing us how you did the tubes, I am currently restoring a Fowler road roller which you can see on my channel and I hope you have a good rally season.
@IACooper16 күн бұрын
Looks like you've got quite a project with the Fowler - hope it all runs to plan for you 🙂
@steamtrainmark16 күн бұрын
@@IACooper Yes a bit to do but getting there, cheers.
@fowler_steam18 күн бұрын
The ending to this video is the exact appeal of steam to me. An oily rag to start a fire, and this great iron giant slowly comes to life
@TheGWR0-4-018 күн бұрын
Really enjoyed watching this, it’s very interesting to see how big of a job it is to retube a roller. Thanks for sharing!
@IACooper18 күн бұрын
Would be a lot easier without the wheels in the way at the front! lol
@garryowen667119 күн бұрын
Really great, very impressed that one man did this, as an engineer who has built a 3 inch scale traction engine i know how much work that is , Great people like you do this so people like me can enjoy them too.
@WorldofColor-ng5yc19 күн бұрын
Even from this video we can get a sense of how big a job this is. For a one person operation it looked huge. Thank you for sharing and keeping a wonderful steam roller alive.
@trevordeane883426 күн бұрын
Many a time in the past I loaded logs onto the sawbench at GDSF with Lenny and his beautiful engine. RIP Lenny and RIP GDSF!
@lucibowers3878Ай бұрын
I love steam
@psycleenАй бұрын
you crane
@novanut19642 ай бұрын
good video
@jacobhaussmann902 ай бұрын
it gos faster that i thought it would
@IACooper2 ай бұрын
probably 30-40mph on fairly level road. The later "S-type" model Sentinel steam waggons can trundle on nearer 50mph on fairly level roads. They all slow to a crawl up steep hills though! lol
@gharker553 ай бұрын
Sorry was late for work today you wouldn't believe i was stuck behind a steam roller towing a large caravan and a large land rover 😂😂
@megamanmain87314 ай бұрын
I absolutely love seeing this beutiful piece of mechanical engineering trundling along the freeway with all the cars going by. You are one lucky owner. Much love from the States <3<3
@richardfroud36054 ай бұрын
Used to have a 6hp burrell road loco in the family.. clearly things have changed...lo loaders.? Gloves? Hi vis.. We used to take it from Northwich to Crich Derbyshire.. 3 days burrell..tender for us kids ..full length showmanship caravan and water cart on the back.. Over the tops towads matlock ..cat and fiddle..overnight at the jug and glass... pulling up to Crich tramway museum at dusk..sparks covering us kids eating pies...spark pies we used to call them! Injector water and swarfega in a steel bucket Worlds gone soft!
@richardfroud36054 ай бұрын
Showmans... for the armchair critic😂
@IACooper4 ай бұрын
I recognise your surname! That's the last time the engine was steamed. It had been fairly recently sold and was off to workshops elsewhere to be stripped down for major boiler work and overhaul. As can be seen, the canopy had already been removed and it was just easier to steam it up to move to where a lorry could reach than to shift it with a push pole. Knowing the new owner and their tendancy to road their other engines, I suspect this will see some miles on the road once it returns from a comprehensive rebuild as well. Under the previous ownership I've followed it out on the road doing the journey from Wolverhampton to Shrewsbury in steam.
@richardfroud36054 ай бұрын
@@IACooper peter froud was my dad..also used to have sentinel dg4 kg1123..oddly coverted to a bus...fowler roller..Aveling roller he sold to Fred Dibnah which was later converted to a tractor...all gone now.. was surrounded by amazing things as a kid.. seem to still find myself perusing KZread looking at stuff. Seems steam stays in the blood.... Hope my comment was recieved with the humour that was intended!
@IACooper4 ай бұрын
@@richardfroud3605 Don't worry, not offended. Whilst you're right that many do pram around these days, hopefully some of my videos show there's still a proportion who travel place to place on the road.
@ShannonFreng5 ай бұрын
That thing went a lot faster on that highway, than I would've expected.
@pknight75726 ай бұрын
Nice, looks amazing. Are there plans for making one knocking around?
@IACooper6 ай бұрын
afraid not - all the detail stuff was a project I developed myself. Curiosity satisfied, I packed it away into the back of a drawer.
@juliangoodacre7 ай бұрын
Brings back memories as I used to steam Sentinel DG 4 Callow Rock YD6587 which was sold to Walter Fearnley in the early 1980's. Does anyone know where this waggon is now?
@hodoi86137 ай бұрын
Hay lắm
@MoviesWelcome8 ай бұрын
👍👍
@rudycarlson82459 ай бұрын
Fred Dibnah had an engine like this I wonder what happened to it after he died? I know one of his sons has the steam roller Betsy I think it’s name is.
@IACooper9 ай бұрын
The steam tractor he had, along with pretty well all his belongings apart from the roller (which was retained by the two sons Jack and Roger, who take it in turns to run it) needed to be sold to pay for costs. One of his daughters was able to buy the landrover to keep that in the family as well.
@rudycarlson82459 ай бұрын
@@IACooper do you know if Betsy the steam roller is running? If it is, is there any videos of it here on KZread?
@IACooper9 ай бұрын
@@rudycarlson8245 i believe it still is, but don't know of any specific videos that feature it. It will sometimes be at steam rallies around the manchester area, astle park, cheshire steam fair etc, so may briefly appear in people's videos taken at those events.
@rudycarlson82459 ай бұрын
@@IACooper thanks for the info
@paulcannon29869 ай бұрын
Nice :] Very Nice. What are you going to drive with it?
@IACooper9 ай бұрын
It's the engine from a quarter sized steam tractor I built a lot of that about 20 odd years ago before the project all stalled as well.
@Peranaworthal9 ай бұрын
The reversing gear is sweet and the finish detail. Well done. I am now making the same for a Stuart 5a, hope it works as well.
@IACooper9 ай бұрын
Best of luck with your project. This is part of a steam tractor I started 24 years ago ...and stopped working on about 21 years ago. I've spent the last couple of months re-making bits of the engine I wasn't happy with and then finishing the engine to the point of getting it to run.
@Peranaworthal9 ай бұрын
I wondered what the extra bosses were for, Reduction gears? Can't wait to see the rest of the project take shape.@@IACooper
@IACooper9 ай бұрын
Yes, a gear is keyed to the far end of the crankshaft which then drives the 2nd shaft which runs in those bearings. That has a sliding gear cluster on the end by the flywheel which drives a stub 3rd shaft, then from there it's chain drive to the rear axle. The engine forms a self-contained unit, so can be built and run independantly from everything else.
@Peranaworthal9 ай бұрын
Massey Ferguson in the background? 35 or 65?
@IACooper9 ай бұрын
Not sure of the details, needed to visit someone else to get access to an air compressor. There were a couple of fergies and other stuff lurking in the shadows and corners.
@tai_ignacio26709 ай бұрын
Hi how do you remove the lens?
@IACooper9 ай бұрын
It's a 'C-mount', so it just unscrews.
@tai_ignacio26709 ай бұрын
@@IACooper Thanks
@jandoerlidoe34129 ай бұрын
This engine has been in Belgium and Holland over the years.... under ownership of Crane....
@IACooper9 ай бұрын
Still owned by the same family, although both Len and Jane have passed away now.
@jandoerlidoe34129 ай бұрын
@@IACooperNice to hear that the engine is still in the same family & is being cared for...
@fukuryyu10 ай бұрын
Isn't it the one from Peaky Blinders?🌚 I think I recognized it.
@IACooper10 ай бұрын
Yes, the owner lived not far from The Black Country Museum where a certain amount of the series was filmed, so it was a local engine.
@DawidGabriel10 ай бұрын
Excellent video, and such glorious whistle sounds! Steam is king.
@stevethegreasemonkey10 ай бұрын
Great, you should get a double track, then you can race them
@IACooper10 ай бұрын
They do them as time trials if people want to take their own Mamon along to 'race'. On occasion will run two together at opposite ends of the track - obviously if one is faster then it will gradually catch the other up. It's all great fun to watch 😃
@stevethegreasemonkey10 ай бұрын
@@IACooper thank you for the reply
@evgeniykhalzov472511 ай бұрын
С автокранами работаем, но такого Чуда, не видели.
@robert-oq9jq11 ай бұрын
The great civilization that created these wonderfully machines and everything else this world enjoys is under attack, now who would be behind a thing like that?
@jakesako Жыл бұрын
Beautiful 👍
@TheEasystart Жыл бұрын
Nice video! Not so nice driving by the Volvo HGV!
@paulshirley6383 Жыл бұрын
After the show is over IACooper LOVE LOUIS SHIRLEY
@elpetisso2856 Жыл бұрын
Que lindo macchinario!
@pearsooo6972 Жыл бұрын
Nice
@davidford2169 Жыл бұрын
Fred would have been chuffed...no pun intended...👍👍🙏❤️🇬🇧
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Would love to understand why you need to do each bit? What would happen if you didn’t remove the vales? Etc? Sorry that’s probably really obvious to you
It's so surreal to see an engine from my country in Wales... Fits right in though. Wonderful shots!
People behind you from miles are calling you everything but a human
Tom, you use your knee to push the drains shut while unwinding the brake as you want to pull away at a junction 😊
Very beautiful machine! What's the location of the test run?
South Staffs, not far from Wolverhampton. The engine will be moving to Shropshire before too long.
Absolutely loving that. 😍😍😍. I’ve never seen one before. Normally it’s Aveling’s, Burrell’s, Wallis, Tasker’s and Fowlers.
There's another based not far from here, a 2 speed version. The one in this video is 3 speed. It's a lovely engine in superb condition.
Complete with a coat of arms! Beautiful machine! Keep steaming!
A transport of delight!
What a lovely quiet machine that is.
Indeed - silent apart from the bark!
Hey I live in North Wales (Anglesey) and looking at some of your video titles, maybe you do too... If so and you ever need some extra hands let me know! I would love to help you out on your engine if you ever need it. For free of course haha. Loved steam all my life but have only ever been to a few rallies. I want to build one some day
I'm a couple of hours drive from Anglesey on the English side of the border, but Wales is where I work and often my playground at a weekend.
@@IACooper Cool. I see. Thanks for getting back to me
Thanks for the video. Great stuff
Thank you for replying to my comment, I didn't know that steam rollers & I presume traction engines the the tubes were not beaded. That means that the new tube ends are flush with the face of the tube plate.
They're not flush, they do protude a small amount, but not too far else they'll overheat and burn back. At 3:35 you can see the protrusion being checked. You're right in essence though, the first step of extraction was to grind off that protusion so they _are_ flush with the tubeplate. At 0:46 as the tube is being pulled out you can see the ends of the surrounding tubes have been ground back to the tubeplate, before they were then heated and cooled and given a squirt of oil whilst still hot to all help get them to contract back a bit and break the seal. Once they were all out everything was cleaned up and dye-penetration tested - which is why at the 3 minute mark the tubeplate is white from the remnants of the test developer and has light rust marks on it from having all been fully degreased and cleaned for the testing done a week or so earlier.
Great that you used the proper older spanners on it
When I got the roller it didn't come with any tools and I didn't have anything to fit either. The first couple of months were spent mooching around the stalls at steam rallies picking up large looking old spanners for a pound or two each. Over the course of the summer I ended up with a dirt cheap set of spanners for it. The older style feel much better if you need to give a little percussive persuasion as well.
Did you bead the tubes over in the fire box?
Nope - like most road steam boilers in the UK, it doesn't have beaded ends. The length is positioned to only just protude past the tubeplate so they don't overheat and burn back.
the most important of the tube removal was taking the beaded end off in the firebox.
Like most road steam boilers in the UK, this didn't (and still doesn't) have beaded ends (unlike rail boilers which usually do). Even so, still worth grinding flat to prevent the crusty protruding bit snagging or the end distorting and wedging. Even having done that, they're still drum tight and as I'm working alone I went around both ends of each tube with oxy-propane to heat them up to red heat to then let them cool and contract slightly to just break the seal. That probably took longer than having an assistant bonking tubes with a hammer whilst applying steady hydaulic pressure at the same time, but was a *lot* less effort, especially working solo. Having done all the prep the day before, they all effortlessly pulled out - the monotonous bit was constantly going back and forth to reload for the next tube.
Hi Ian, great video and thanks showing us how you did the tubes, I am currently restoring a Fowler road roller which you can see on my channel and I hope you have a good rally season.
Looks like you've got quite a project with the Fowler - hope it all runs to plan for you 🙂
@@IACooper Yes a bit to do but getting there, cheers.
The ending to this video is the exact appeal of steam to me. An oily rag to start a fire, and this great iron giant slowly comes to life
Really enjoyed watching this, it’s very interesting to see how big of a job it is to retube a roller. Thanks for sharing!
Would be a lot easier without the wheels in the way at the front! lol
Really great, very impressed that one man did this, as an engineer who has built a 3 inch scale traction engine i know how much work that is , Great people like you do this so people like me can enjoy them too.
Even from this video we can get a sense of how big a job this is. For a one person operation it looked huge. Thank you for sharing and keeping a wonderful steam roller alive.
Many a time in the past I loaded logs onto the sawbench at GDSF with Lenny and his beautiful engine. RIP Lenny and RIP GDSF!
I love steam
you crane
good video
it gos faster that i thought it would
probably 30-40mph on fairly level road. The later "S-type" model Sentinel steam waggons can trundle on nearer 50mph on fairly level roads. They all slow to a crawl up steep hills though! lol
Sorry was late for work today you wouldn't believe i was stuck behind a steam roller towing a large caravan and a large land rover 😂😂
I absolutely love seeing this beutiful piece of mechanical engineering trundling along the freeway with all the cars going by. You are one lucky owner. Much love from the States <3<3
Used to have a 6hp burrell road loco in the family.. clearly things have changed...lo loaders.? Gloves? Hi vis.. We used to take it from Northwich to Crich Derbyshire.. 3 days burrell..tender for us kids ..full length showmanship caravan and water cart on the back.. Over the tops towads matlock ..cat and fiddle..overnight at the jug and glass... pulling up to Crich tramway museum at dusk..sparks covering us kids eating pies...spark pies we used to call them! Injector water and swarfega in a steel bucket Worlds gone soft!
Showmans... for the armchair critic😂
I recognise your surname! That's the last time the engine was steamed. It had been fairly recently sold and was off to workshops elsewhere to be stripped down for major boiler work and overhaul. As can be seen, the canopy had already been removed and it was just easier to steam it up to move to where a lorry could reach than to shift it with a push pole. Knowing the new owner and their tendancy to road their other engines, I suspect this will see some miles on the road once it returns from a comprehensive rebuild as well. Under the previous ownership I've followed it out on the road doing the journey from Wolverhampton to Shrewsbury in steam.
@@IACooper peter froud was my dad..also used to have sentinel dg4 kg1123..oddly coverted to a bus...fowler roller..Aveling roller he sold to Fred Dibnah which was later converted to a tractor...all gone now.. was surrounded by amazing things as a kid.. seem to still find myself perusing KZread looking at stuff. Seems steam stays in the blood.... Hope my comment was recieved with the humour that was intended!
@@richardfroud3605 Don't worry, not offended. Whilst you're right that many do pram around these days, hopefully some of my videos show there's still a proportion who travel place to place on the road.
That thing went a lot faster on that highway, than I would've expected.
Nice, looks amazing. Are there plans for making one knocking around?
afraid not - all the detail stuff was a project I developed myself. Curiosity satisfied, I packed it away into the back of a drawer.
Brings back memories as I used to steam Sentinel DG 4 Callow Rock YD6587 which was sold to Walter Fearnley in the early 1980's. Does anyone know where this waggon is now?
Hay lắm
👍👍
Fred Dibnah had an engine like this I wonder what happened to it after he died? I know one of his sons has the steam roller Betsy I think it’s name is.
The steam tractor he had, along with pretty well all his belongings apart from the roller (which was retained by the two sons Jack and Roger, who take it in turns to run it) needed to be sold to pay for costs. One of his daughters was able to buy the landrover to keep that in the family as well.
@@IACooper do you know if Betsy the steam roller is running? If it is, is there any videos of it here on KZread?
@@rudycarlson8245 i believe it still is, but don't know of any specific videos that feature it. It will sometimes be at steam rallies around the manchester area, astle park, cheshire steam fair etc, so may briefly appear in people's videos taken at those events.
@@IACooper thanks for the info
Nice :] Very Nice. What are you going to drive with it?
It's the engine from a quarter sized steam tractor I built a lot of that about 20 odd years ago before the project all stalled as well.
The reversing gear is sweet and the finish detail. Well done. I am now making the same for a Stuart 5a, hope it works as well.
Best of luck with your project. This is part of a steam tractor I started 24 years ago ...and stopped working on about 21 years ago. I've spent the last couple of months re-making bits of the engine I wasn't happy with and then finishing the engine to the point of getting it to run.
I wondered what the extra bosses were for, Reduction gears? Can't wait to see the rest of the project take shape.@@IACooper
Yes, a gear is keyed to the far end of the crankshaft which then drives the 2nd shaft which runs in those bearings. That has a sliding gear cluster on the end by the flywheel which drives a stub 3rd shaft, then from there it's chain drive to the rear axle. The engine forms a self-contained unit, so can be built and run independantly from everything else.
Massey Ferguson in the background? 35 or 65?
Not sure of the details, needed to visit someone else to get access to an air compressor. There were a couple of fergies and other stuff lurking in the shadows and corners.
Hi how do you remove the lens?
It's a 'C-mount', so it just unscrews.
@@IACooper Thanks
This engine has been in Belgium and Holland over the years.... under ownership of Crane....
Still owned by the same family, although both Len and Jane have passed away now.
@@IACooperNice to hear that the engine is still in the same family & is being cared for...
Isn't it the one from Peaky Blinders?🌚 I think I recognized it.
Yes, the owner lived not far from The Black Country Museum where a certain amount of the series was filmed, so it was a local engine.
Excellent video, and such glorious whistle sounds! Steam is king.
Great, you should get a double track, then you can race them
They do them as time trials if people want to take their own Mamon along to 'race'. On occasion will run two together at opposite ends of the track - obviously if one is faster then it will gradually catch the other up. It's all great fun to watch 😃
@@IACooper thank you for the reply
С автокранами работаем, но такого Чуда, не видели.
The great civilization that created these wonderfully machines and everything else this world enjoys is under attack, now who would be behind a thing like that?
Beautiful 👍
Nice video! Not so nice driving by the Volvo HGV!
After the show is over IACooper LOVE LOUIS SHIRLEY
Que lindo macchinario!
Nice
Fred would have been chuffed...no pun intended...👍👍🙏❤️🇬🇧