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Thank you very much for this very informativ Video and the very good Audio Comparison. Particularly the proximity Test where you speaked in the Mic with diffrent distance to the mic was very usefull and of coarse the comparison with a original RCA44BX !
@saxofonistacr2 күн бұрын
I have one that I got super cheap used, It is great value, but it kind of makes the tenor sound a bit honkey. I prefer another super cheap SDC CAD GXL 1200. For the tenor
@BacktotheRetroReview4 күн бұрын
I love my k669d, the sound for the price is fantastic. I recently released a video where I customized a k669d. It came out pretty cool.
@patrickdonegan95597 күн бұрын
"carrying sack" not "carrying case" - silly guy!
@meistudiony7 күн бұрын
LOL when youre right youre right! :)
@bassface8411 күн бұрын
NTK thru the 1073 & 610 sound better than they've any right to sound. Well done.
@bassface8411 күн бұрын
Very kool
@jmtrainz258211 күн бұрын
hello, i've just got me a 1980s ev pl20 (re20) the mic handles vocals well but has a layer of raspy distortion, when placed on a high spl guitar amp (67' fender) could it just be the foam? or something else? can you narrow it down? this is a recording I made of it: drive.google.com/file/d/1HVnJVXDEiaQ_4zPAgHeBe2EP026JJRCp/view?usp=sharing
@bassface8412 күн бұрын
Nice.
@gregorysanchez736712 күн бұрын
I like the 5575
@donnadie1000013 күн бұрын
What is a good interfaz for this microphone? Gain range?
@meistudiony13 күн бұрын
Pretty much anything. This isn't like an sm7b or RE20 that has very low output.
@theshill895918 күн бұрын
The Chinese copied everything without any sense of justice and everyone went crazy. Now "American" and German companies are doing it (and also produce in China) and people are talking about "honouring" a heritage. I think that's a hypocritical statement. It's still bad style at least once. For me simply wrong. They even copied the bag of AEA! Good video. The product is a problem. Get inspired by stuff, invent you own stuff and everything is ok.
@meistudiony17 күн бұрын
I dont disagree with you but I draw my line in a a slightly different place. When a company copies a product that hasnt been produced in ages… im ok with that. When a company copies a product thats currently in production by the original manufacturer, thats a problem. When a company copies a product and puts the ORIGINAL companies name on it, thats a hard NO, for me. The other issue is build quality. Many of the copies from over seas/bootlegs are inferior when it comes to materials and manufacturing methods. (And subsequently sound). Warm did a great job with this mic for a price point I would say is fair. Charging $3-5k for a mic like this i feel is way over priced like some other companies are doing. Thanks for checkin out the video and leaving a great comment!
@theshill895916 күн бұрын
@@meistudiony I have to strongly disagree. How do you define over priced? For me, over priced means cheaply produced and artificially made expensive through greed. This is definitely not the case with AEA. At AEA, not only is everything produced in Los Angeles, all parts come from within a half-hour radius of the company. Of course, this is more expensive than assembling parts from China. You can say you can't aford it, but please don't say it's over priced. It's a small company that makes small quantities by hand, of course it's more expensive. A Swiss watch that is made by hand is also more expensive than a Chinese copy. It much more love and passion inside. And by the way: Warm Audio didn't copy RCA, they copied AEA. Watch this to get an idea of the company: kzread.info/dash/bejne/nGGNtqNqf9Soh7A.html
@meistudiony16 күн бұрын
@@theshill8959 fair enough. I own a few aea mics. I dont think the price they put on their recreations are in line with their more original offerings (r88, nuvo etc). All things considered, i still feel the 44 recreations are priced way higher than they need to be. Its not a matter of being able to afford it. More a matter of placing a dollar amount on something because of its nostalgia factor thats not in line with the rest of the line that doesnt have that factor. Its their decision to price it that way and thats fine. I just dont think a recreation of a mic should be more than the vintage mic that its copying. Same goes for the telefunken mics whose material sources are questionable at best. The new telefunken has pulled some questionable practices in the past.
@theshill895916 күн бұрын
@@meistudiony As I have already said: I don't think the 44 is about maximising profits. It's simply much more expensive to produce than a Nuvo, for example. The components are more complex to manufacture and, of course, much more expensive if they are produced locally than in the Far East. Anyway. I don't like companies like Warm or Behringer.
@danwahlbeck262118 күн бұрын
You already know your D202 was faulty. I have a special version that is blue and gold that I use in all my videos. I think it sounds really good with no processing at all. On top of that it's so ugly so it almost becomes cool. I tried it on drums and other sources and liked it so much that I bought the other 5 (black) D202 from the same old studio here in Stockholm. I had to repair a few of them of cause. Thanks for a good video!
@meistudiony18 күн бұрын
I would love to know if you were able to open the head basket. I took a saw to one of the ones i had to try and figure out a way to open it to try and service it, and even after that, I couldn't find a way to do it without being destructive in some way.
@danwahlbeck262117 күн бұрын
@@meistudiony I couldn't open the head basket either. I had one with the same problem as yours. By comparing it to the working ones I managed to locate where the broken wire was supposed to be, did a bit of surgery on the plastic and managed find the wire and repair it. Far from easy. It also initially took quite some time to figure out that the nut at the end of the tube in the bottom of the mic was what was holding the top. Two of the mics I have someone had tried unscrew the head basket like you can do on other mics and that way tearing apart the internal wireing, that someone hadn't found the nut at the end of the tube apparently.
@ear.bonez.studio18 күн бұрын
Love the history lesson in these videos. Thanks for doing these.
@meistudiony18 күн бұрын
Thank you! I really appreciate the kind words!
@ear.bonez.studio18 күн бұрын
I enjoyed this. thank you. I like microphones and I like to mix them up. I preferred the D1000E on snare in your example. I could go either way on your other examples. I do a lot of live video and am recently collecting vintage dynamic mics because they look cooler in the shot!
@meistudiony18 күн бұрын
I recently ran into a mic that has been on like every live music show from the late 60s into the 70s and early 80s. Electro-voice 635A. Really basic look to it but pretty cool. I'll be doing a vid on this soon hopefully if the studio calms down for a min. Thanks for checking out the videos and commenting (this one and the AKG D190), I really appreciate it!
@HarvinderSingh-yy8th19 күн бұрын
It better to purchase GTZ U 87 than to assemble CM byself.
@meistudiony19 күн бұрын
Ive had 3 different mics from gtz. I would say the MP is definitely better quality. But the MP S87 isnt trying to be a U87. It just uses a K87 style capsule.
@mofateam119 күн бұрын
whow. that stereo mic is interesting...
@meistudiony19 күн бұрын
Yes it is! Im going to be looking at a domestic boutique ribbon in a couple weeks. Love seeing stuff like this. Small builders making great products.
@NTATchannelNickTaylor23 күн бұрын
I love my RE20's I have both the OG tan and the new black both with the 309A shock mounts. I love the sound and the classic sound is unmatched to me. Now I do miss the proximity effect that I used to use on my AT2040 so since I dont have "free bass" anymore I had to spend extra coin and put a DBX 131s in my signal chain to boost the bottom end a smidge.
@meistudiony23 күн бұрын
Thanks for checking it out, theyre a classic that is just unmatched.
@APMTenants24 күн бұрын
The sm57 and 545 don’t have the same capsule. “The 545 uses an all copper voice coil, which makes it a little heavier than the SM57 coil. In fact, we started making the 545 about 7 years before the SM57. “ -Shure Unidyne iii is referring to a patented technology, not a specific capsule. The old sm57s had 3 wires connecting the capsule and the transformer. The new ones have two.
@meistudiony24 күн бұрын
OK! Thanks for the comment! Lets take a dive into this and see if we can clarify this! From Shures website, the Unidyne I, II and III (and 4 which was in the 548 but didn't take off) refer to the cartridge types. The Unidyne I was the big boxy thing (video coming soon) found in the original 55 mic. The Unidyne II was the first "smaller" version and close to what we have now. The III was about the same as the II but had some added shock mounting features which made the handling of the mic improved over the previous version. (essentially some rubber suspensions and some sponge rings) and what we see in the 545, 57 and 58 (and probably others). "The Unidyne III microphone cartridge first appeared in the model 545 in 1960." - www.shure.com/en-GB/performance-production/louder/shure-unidyne-75-years-of-the-worlds-most-recognisable-mic Same cartridge, different assemblies. (the 57, 58 and 545 all unidyne III's). Rick, (the guy you quoted) has an interesting take. While yes the 545 came out in 1960 and the 57 in 1967, that only means that one was released before the other. When the SM57 was released, the tape ring around the head basket said "SM57 Unidyne III" and the 545 said "545XX Unidyne III". Mic model and cartridge type. In his FULL quote he mentioned that the grilles and housings were different, and, hes just wrong on that. The grilles are different in color only (silver for the 545 and grey for the 57) . Shure only makes a single head basket for both models. (www.shure.com/en-US/products/accessories/rk244g?variant=RK244G) I recently had a couple of mics in for repairs and the parts guy mentioned they've only ever had a single assembly for the baskets, so not sure where Rick got that info. I've repaired mics from the 60's all the way to the 2000s and they all use the same head basket. As far as the housings go, they too are identical, except for the material they are made out of. (545 being plastic and the 57 being all metal, to be more resilient for live use, where as the 545 was seen more as an installation type mic). The rubber at the top and bottom of the assembly is identical, the two sponge rings inside are identical, and either capsule fits into either assembly, and either assembly can screw on to either mic handle (the dimensions and threading are all identical). As far as the capsule assembly itself... again identical. The diaphragms are identical as well. The magnet assemblies have undergone some changes over the years, where some seem CNC bumpy and others smooth. Both are made from the same material and weigh in the same as well (smooth and riged). The voice coil, however IS different. So that part is at least true. The ones i had in had their diaphragms detached and i have both sitting in front of me right now. The 545 is a more reddish copper color whereas the 57 looks more "new penny" kind of. Weight wise, they both come in at less than 1g. (with the diaphragm and coil connected). The magnet assemblies both weigh in at 91g with the mesh ring and no diaphragm attached. Where he got the "the assemblies are different" thing, I dont know, but they just arent and as far as i can tell, never have been different. Ricks original comment was meant to debunk the myth that the SM57s were just 545s that passed all the QC and the 545s somehow didn't... that theory just doesn't even make sense to me. How much of a difference JUST the voice coil makes? Well, the weight COULD make a difference, but when tested, its really not a big one, as we see in the responses in the video. And in the context of a mix (recording or live) I'd go so far to say its a moot point once EQ and compression enter the conversation. Are they different? From a voice coil stand point, it would appear so. One could argue the bigger difference would be with the transformer which has multiple impedances on the 545 and a single on the 57. As far as the leads to the transformer, the black was just a ground that was connected to a washer clip on the magnet assembly. It wasn't connected to the capsule in that no signal was going through it. After shure realized that it made no difference since the entire body was grounded, it was dropped. The black lead is still used on the 545 since the upper is plastic and non conductive. Thanks for bringing this up, its been a fun dip into the knitty gritty of these mics.
@APMTenants24 күн бұрын
@@meistudiony the sm57 was released in 1965, not 1967. The sm58 was released in 1966
@APMTenants24 күн бұрын
@@meistudiony “A lot of the variations and the basic design were before my time, but I did know the designer, Mr. Seeler. They were all variants of the original Unidyne III, designed about 1960. The patent didn't issue till 1966. The biggest change I know of was the switch to the aluminum voice coil in the 57. There were probably many minor changes in things like transformers. But the biggest difference from one to the next is the tuning. The capsule is multi chambered and the response is tuned by varying those chambers. Originally the last chamber was actually tunable by turning a little nut inside the capsule. Otherwise it's a function of things like felt density. The classical tuning was for a bass rolloff to compensate for proximity, and of course the +6 at 6K mid peak.” - some guy on GS.
@APMTenants24 күн бұрын
@@meistudiony If the voice coil is different, the capsules are not identical. The voice coil is part of the capsule. That you would continue to call them identical after that basic fact has been established is bizarre
@meistudiony23 күн бұрын
@@APMTenants the magnet assembly and diaphragm are identical. The coils are different. Thought thats what i said. Apologies.
@justinhayes343424 күн бұрын
I liked the vintage 545 on the snare. Otherwise, not much difference
@meistudiony24 күн бұрын
Yeah. Its slight and once you hit any of em w eq/compression all bets are off.
@maju874625 күн бұрын
are you using a new or an old one?
@meistudiony25 күн бұрын
I have one from the 70s and one from around 2018 or so, theres pretty much no difference. (no more difference than any two bought today or back then). So if anyone is selling this at a premium because its "vintage", you're not getting anything more special or different.
@brian.f0925 күн бұрын
Do you know the difference between the D1000e and D1000m? Really great video, btw. Thanks!
@meistudiony25 күн бұрын
So the E signifies a canon or regular xlr connector. Ive never seen the M suffix (theyre more rare) from what i can tell the M has a different setting on the 3 way switch. Instead of BMS it has BMO (possibly off?). Other than that, likely the same capsule.
@brian.f0925 күн бұрын
@@meistudiony Thank you!
@jerrystringer0626 күн бұрын
For my taste & style I’m sold on the sennheiser e602ii. It really shocked me. Was & still is a big fan of the Beta52, but now I’m looking at that e602. It sounded wonderful in every application! Thank you for this video!
@meistudiony25 күн бұрын
Thanks for checking it out. It was quite the undertaking. Glad so many people are getting something from this video.
@AudioHotline27 күн бұрын
Great video Pags! This mic sounds incredible!
@meistudiony27 күн бұрын
Thanks! Its def my fav by a good margin.
@BojanBojovic27 күн бұрын
Thanks, great video. Really refreshing compared to all dishonest nonsense on KZread these days. I had it and sold it 10 years ago, hated it from day one but not because it was harsh, but because I was young and stupid, also back then I did not know how to sing properly. Few days ago I listened to some of my old recordings with this microphone and I just figured out that this was the best I ever did, and I did many different things, from AT2035, NT1, to U87. Back then I used it with the hated DBX 376 tube preamp, which has some nice deesser and the results were silky smooth. Now I am thinking about getting the K2, but not clear why everyone hate those two microphones. I tend to believe that ight ignorants like me 15 years ago could hate it.
@meistudiony27 күн бұрын
Thanks for the comment and for checking it out. Yeah, I think its just a bunch of gate keeping BS in regards to the NTK and the K2 (K2 i think you get polar patterns on where the NTK is just cardioid, both sound amazing). I can understand the hate towards like the Neewer 800 and other really cheap, objectively BAD sounding mics... this, not so much. We live and learn and sometimes we come back full circle! Cheers!
@irawardofficial27 күн бұрын
That was awesome. F faceboook LOL.
@meistudiony27 күн бұрын
Amen! Thanks for watching!
@bobmccarroll787628 күн бұрын
i love mine.
@meistudiony28 күн бұрын
Fantastic mic! Just got to use mine again on some tenor sax and flute with a bossa band last week. Sounded so good with no processing.
@ObscureTech28 күн бұрын
Almost to 2k!!!
@meistudiony28 күн бұрын
Im tryin!! Probably would be there already if i was more consistent like you and Bandrew.
@GregoryStephenSchumacher28 күн бұрын
Pags! Another great video. Great story, too. Enjoyed every minute of it. Looks like a fantastic mic. Your opinion of it being up there with the original 47's carries a lot of weight. I appreciate the quality of the comparison's also. Really nice.
@meistudiony28 күн бұрын
Thanks for the kind words. This mic has held a special place for me for a VERY long time. It was the first mic that I used for a vocal production where I felt I didn't need to do any EQ or "work" on after recording. Obviously that depends on a lot of factors, but the way this mic operates definitely puts it as my first choice for a lot of projects. It rarely leaves the mic stand in the studio.
@emmanuelechem281129 күн бұрын
Am I the only one that hears a buzz on the RCA mic on the piano comparison?
@meistudiony29 күн бұрын
No, but youre the first o comment on it! The RCA (like every other RCA i've ever owned/used) is tempermental with ground. Since this mic wasn't mine i couldn't do the necessary modifications (paint removal) to make sure the mic is properly grounded all around. It wasn't terrible with this mic, (ive had some that are attrocious) but its there if you crank up the gain.
@emmanuelechem281129 күн бұрын
@@meistudiony wow! Well that's good to know. Do you know if the newer AEA mics have the same issue?
@meistudiony29 күн бұрын
@@emmanuelechem2811 i havent experienced it on the aeas ive used.
@astralaudio101Ай бұрын
The NTK was for me especially good on your VO, as it’s Sibilant free. Through the 1073 was perfect..
@meistudiony26 күн бұрын
The mic is nice through almost anything. Definitely worth the asking price IMO.
@lenny656Ай бұрын
Years back I bought a pair of these for a music venue I owned and a pair for a radio station I worked at. They all came with an AB1G wind screen. Do they now only rely on the foam screens?
@meistudionyАй бұрын
They don't come with the AB1G anymore just the foam. (extra $80 if you still want it) For non vocal, indoor use, neither is really needed. But for anything spoken the wind screen is certainly a preference.
@2011studiesАй бұрын
I think the mod made the acoustic guitar sound a bit muddy. For vocals I think it's fine. Piano, I couldn't tell at all.
@meistudiony26 күн бұрын
Yeah, i had gone back after this video and upped the value of the cap to put a little more top end back in. (the beauty of this mod is that you can tailor it to your liking) I dont think the piano was really hitting the range where it cut off, so there wasn't much difference.
@1keyboardwizАй бұрын
Front End Audio had a 10% off sale so I bought 2. I believe that as long as you're in the ballpark you'll be just fine. Plan on putting them to work on my next session.
@meistudionyАй бұрын
For the cost of 2 you still couldnt get one RCA 🤣
@gh00alАй бұрын
Awesome video--thanks!
@meistudionyАй бұрын
Thanks for checkin it out
@rasm0225Ай бұрын
Fantastic review. PS, you need a new ride cymbal.
@meistudionyАй бұрын
Just got 2 new ones not long ago. That one in the video was like a man hole cover. Wound up picking up an old zildjian for jazz and a new sabian rock ride.
@EthanRMusАй бұрын
I liked the 906 presence boost on percussion, really helped to bring them out, for me thats worth an extra 100
@meistudiony26 күн бұрын
Just got a 409 in and will be revisiting this very soon. I agree with you on the percussion thing. I just pulled this out a few nights ago to do some guiro, bongos and shakers. Worked really well and i basically had to do no EQ on most of it.
@BadChizzleАй бұрын
Smart!
@meistudionyАй бұрын
not usually. LOL!
@claudiagibsonmusicАй бұрын
I was looking this up because I'm selling one I've had for years. But now it sounds so good compared to the SM57 (which I don't own, I have a Senheiser e835), maybe I should keep it? Great sound for the $100 I'll probably get for it.
@meistudionyАй бұрын
If what you have is in good shape you can probably get more than $100 right now and this mic is DEF worth it. It has a much more neutral (natural maybe) sound than the 57 which has a deep scoop in the mids and a hyped high end. Thanks for checking it out!
@ZackPomerleauАй бұрын
Only thing I’d like to have seen is the modern/classic during the room mix. Curious how it would change the drum sound
@meistudionyАй бұрын
There was a reason i didn't do it and i can't remember why now.... maybe ill have to make an update for that! Thanks for the comment and checking out the video!
@ZackPomerleauАй бұрын
@@meistudiony I’m assuming the scoop would probably affect the snare heavily. Even the cymbals on the wash area
@FatherLambАй бұрын
God I wish I could get this thing! I love that vintage look and the sound is just perfectly smooth.
@meistudionyАй бұрын
Definitely something worth saving up for. It's a beautiful piece. Thanks for checking it out!
@FatherLambАй бұрын
@@meistudiony I've always loved ribbon mics, some anyway. It's just hard to find one thats very well worthy. This one is it! It's just right. I'd literally compare it to a u87 with how flat its tone is, its natural as it gets.
@sansproductionlounge8083Ай бұрын
Really loved this video! I’ve been wanting to get the S87 Build kit. Watching your video really confirmed that I’m doing it. I feel like if I follow the instructions and not rush things I’ll be able to do it. Excellent video. Pace was great. Your speech was steady and easy to listen too. Very engaging. Thank you so much for sharing this :) blessings from Australia.
@meistudionyАй бұрын
Thanks for checking it out! Appreciate it! If you have any questions when you decide to do it, feel free to hit me up!
@sansproductionlounge8083Ай бұрын
@@meistudiony thank you :) much appreciated.
@phoenixcaliente3318Ай бұрын
What kind of desoldering tool are you using? Definitely looks way easier and less potentially destructive than the cheapo solder sucker, which seems a bit imprecise for this task.
@meistudionyАй бұрын
My particular model isnt made anymore. But there is a newer version: amzn.to/3xbgCP9 A little pricey but if you do a lot of soldering its amazing. Can essentially take a board down to new again with almost no trace of solder left behind.
@skiphupp6387Ай бұрын
Excellent
@meistudiony26 күн бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@oskarwroniewiczАй бұрын
Videos such as this one are invaluable, it's a shame there are so few out there. Not that it's surprising - I can only imagine how much work it took to put it all together. Hats off for all those hours you spent on this gem, we're all greatful!
@ItsMetabtwАй бұрын
I wonder if that VC1 has a different pre than my VC6Q? I don’t remember mine sounding quite like that. I used to use it on electric guitars until I got the API channel strip. I might have to plug it in for old times sake
@meistudionyАй бұрын
The VC6Q didnt have the input transformer if memory serves and didn't have the "enhance", instead, giving way to a (IMO) more useful 3 band eq. Very similar vibe though.
@ItsMetabtwАй бұрын
@@meistudiony yeah that sounds right. I remember reading about it being in sorta the middle of the Joe meek range. Either way, it served me well for a few years until I could afford some of the other things I really wanted like API and Neve. I might pull it apart and see if I can dress it a bit better and lower the noise floor. It was okay on distorted guitars if I used a gate, but man did it come with some hiss
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Thank you very much for this very informativ Video and the very good Audio Comparison. Particularly the proximity Test where you speaked in the Mic with diffrent distance to the mic was very usefull and of coarse the comparison with a original RCA44BX !
I have one that I got super cheap used, It is great value, but it kind of makes the tenor sound a bit honkey. I prefer another super cheap SDC CAD GXL 1200. For the tenor
I love my k669d, the sound for the price is fantastic. I recently released a video where I customized a k669d. It came out pretty cool.
"carrying sack" not "carrying case" - silly guy!
LOL when youre right youre right! :)
NTK thru the 1073 & 610 sound better than they've any right to sound. Well done.
Very kool
hello, i've just got me a 1980s ev pl20 (re20) the mic handles vocals well but has a layer of raspy distortion, when placed on a high spl guitar amp (67' fender) could it just be the foam? or something else? can you narrow it down? this is a recording I made of it: drive.google.com/file/d/1HVnJVXDEiaQ_4zPAgHeBe2EP026JJRCp/view?usp=sharing
Nice.
I like the 5575
What is a good interfaz for this microphone? Gain range?
Pretty much anything. This isn't like an sm7b or RE20 that has very low output.
The Chinese copied everything without any sense of justice and everyone went crazy. Now "American" and German companies are doing it (and also produce in China) and people are talking about "honouring" a heritage. I think that's a hypocritical statement. It's still bad style at least once. For me simply wrong. They even copied the bag of AEA! Good video. The product is a problem. Get inspired by stuff, invent you own stuff and everything is ok.
I dont disagree with you but I draw my line in a a slightly different place. When a company copies a product that hasnt been produced in ages… im ok with that. When a company copies a product thats currently in production by the original manufacturer, thats a problem. When a company copies a product and puts the ORIGINAL companies name on it, thats a hard NO, for me. The other issue is build quality. Many of the copies from over seas/bootlegs are inferior when it comes to materials and manufacturing methods. (And subsequently sound). Warm did a great job with this mic for a price point I would say is fair. Charging $3-5k for a mic like this i feel is way over priced like some other companies are doing. Thanks for checkin out the video and leaving a great comment!
@@meistudiony I have to strongly disagree. How do you define over priced? For me, over priced means cheaply produced and artificially made expensive through greed. This is definitely not the case with AEA. At AEA, not only is everything produced in Los Angeles, all parts come from within a half-hour radius of the company. Of course, this is more expensive than assembling parts from China. You can say you can't aford it, but please don't say it's over priced. It's a small company that makes small quantities by hand, of course it's more expensive. A Swiss watch that is made by hand is also more expensive than a Chinese copy. It much more love and passion inside. And by the way: Warm Audio didn't copy RCA, they copied AEA. Watch this to get an idea of the company: kzread.info/dash/bejne/nGGNtqNqf9Soh7A.html
@@theshill8959 fair enough. I own a few aea mics. I dont think the price they put on their recreations are in line with their more original offerings (r88, nuvo etc). All things considered, i still feel the 44 recreations are priced way higher than they need to be. Its not a matter of being able to afford it. More a matter of placing a dollar amount on something because of its nostalgia factor thats not in line with the rest of the line that doesnt have that factor. Its their decision to price it that way and thats fine. I just dont think a recreation of a mic should be more than the vintage mic that its copying. Same goes for the telefunken mics whose material sources are questionable at best. The new telefunken has pulled some questionable practices in the past.
@@meistudiony As I have already said: I don't think the 44 is about maximising profits. It's simply much more expensive to produce than a Nuvo, for example. The components are more complex to manufacture and, of course, much more expensive if they are produced locally than in the Far East. Anyway. I don't like companies like Warm or Behringer.
You already know your D202 was faulty. I have a special version that is blue and gold that I use in all my videos. I think it sounds really good with no processing at all. On top of that it's so ugly so it almost becomes cool. I tried it on drums and other sources and liked it so much that I bought the other 5 (black) D202 from the same old studio here in Stockholm. I had to repair a few of them of cause. Thanks for a good video!
I would love to know if you were able to open the head basket. I took a saw to one of the ones i had to try and figure out a way to open it to try and service it, and even after that, I couldn't find a way to do it without being destructive in some way.
@@meistudiony I couldn't open the head basket either. I had one with the same problem as yours. By comparing it to the working ones I managed to locate where the broken wire was supposed to be, did a bit of surgery on the plastic and managed find the wire and repair it. Far from easy. It also initially took quite some time to figure out that the nut at the end of the tube in the bottom of the mic was what was holding the top. Two of the mics I have someone had tried unscrew the head basket like you can do on other mics and that way tearing apart the internal wireing, that someone hadn't found the nut at the end of the tube apparently.
Love the history lesson in these videos. Thanks for doing these.
Thank you! I really appreciate the kind words!
I enjoyed this. thank you. I like microphones and I like to mix them up. I preferred the D1000E on snare in your example. I could go either way on your other examples. I do a lot of live video and am recently collecting vintage dynamic mics because they look cooler in the shot!
I recently ran into a mic that has been on like every live music show from the late 60s into the 70s and early 80s. Electro-voice 635A. Really basic look to it but pretty cool. I'll be doing a vid on this soon hopefully if the studio calms down for a min. Thanks for checking out the videos and commenting (this one and the AKG D190), I really appreciate it!
It better to purchase GTZ U 87 than to assemble CM byself.
Ive had 3 different mics from gtz. I would say the MP is definitely better quality. But the MP S87 isnt trying to be a U87. It just uses a K87 style capsule.
whow. that stereo mic is interesting...
Yes it is! Im going to be looking at a domestic boutique ribbon in a couple weeks. Love seeing stuff like this. Small builders making great products.
I love my RE20's I have both the OG tan and the new black both with the 309A shock mounts. I love the sound and the classic sound is unmatched to me. Now I do miss the proximity effect that I used to use on my AT2040 so since I dont have "free bass" anymore I had to spend extra coin and put a DBX 131s in my signal chain to boost the bottom end a smidge.
Thanks for checking it out, theyre a classic that is just unmatched.
The sm57 and 545 don’t have the same capsule. “The 545 uses an all copper voice coil, which makes it a little heavier than the SM57 coil. In fact, we started making the 545 about 7 years before the SM57. “ -Shure Unidyne iii is referring to a patented technology, not a specific capsule. The old sm57s had 3 wires connecting the capsule and the transformer. The new ones have two.
OK! Thanks for the comment! Lets take a dive into this and see if we can clarify this! From Shures website, the Unidyne I, II and III (and 4 which was in the 548 but didn't take off) refer to the cartridge types. The Unidyne I was the big boxy thing (video coming soon) found in the original 55 mic. The Unidyne II was the first "smaller" version and close to what we have now. The III was about the same as the II but had some added shock mounting features which made the handling of the mic improved over the previous version. (essentially some rubber suspensions and some sponge rings) and what we see in the 545, 57 and 58 (and probably others). "The Unidyne III microphone cartridge first appeared in the model 545 in 1960." - www.shure.com/en-GB/performance-production/louder/shure-unidyne-75-years-of-the-worlds-most-recognisable-mic Same cartridge, different assemblies. (the 57, 58 and 545 all unidyne III's). Rick, (the guy you quoted) has an interesting take. While yes the 545 came out in 1960 and the 57 in 1967, that only means that one was released before the other. When the SM57 was released, the tape ring around the head basket said "SM57 Unidyne III" and the 545 said "545XX Unidyne III". Mic model and cartridge type. In his FULL quote he mentioned that the grilles and housings were different, and, hes just wrong on that. The grilles are different in color only (silver for the 545 and grey for the 57) . Shure only makes a single head basket for both models. (www.shure.com/en-US/products/accessories/rk244g?variant=RK244G) I recently had a couple of mics in for repairs and the parts guy mentioned they've only ever had a single assembly for the baskets, so not sure where Rick got that info. I've repaired mics from the 60's all the way to the 2000s and they all use the same head basket. As far as the housings go, they too are identical, except for the material they are made out of. (545 being plastic and the 57 being all metal, to be more resilient for live use, where as the 545 was seen more as an installation type mic). The rubber at the top and bottom of the assembly is identical, the two sponge rings inside are identical, and either capsule fits into either assembly, and either assembly can screw on to either mic handle (the dimensions and threading are all identical). As far as the capsule assembly itself... again identical. The diaphragms are identical as well. The magnet assemblies have undergone some changes over the years, where some seem CNC bumpy and others smooth. Both are made from the same material and weigh in the same as well (smooth and riged). The voice coil, however IS different. So that part is at least true. The ones i had in had their diaphragms detached and i have both sitting in front of me right now. The 545 is a more reddish copper color whereas the 57 looks more "new penny" kind of. Weight wise, they both come in at less than 1g. (with the diaphragm and coil connected). The magnet assemblies both weigh in at 91g with the mesh ring and no diaphragm attached. Where he got the "the assemblies are different" thing, I dont know, but they just arent and as far as i can tell, never have been different. Ricks original comment was meant to debunk the myth that the SM57s were just 545s that passed all the QC and the 545s somehow didn't... that theory just doesn't even make sense to me. How much of a difference JUST the voice coil makes? Well, the weight COULD make a difference, but when tested, its really not a big one, as we see in the responses in the video. And in the context of a mix (recording or live) I'd go so far to say its a moot point once EQ and compression enter the conversation. Are they different? From a voice coil stand point, it would appear so. One could argue the bigger difference would be with the transformer which has multiple impedances on the 545 and a single on the 57. As far as the leads to the transformer, the black was just a ground that was connected to a washer clip on the magnet assembly. It wasn't connected to the capsule in that no signal was going through it. After shure realized that it made no difference since the entire body was grounded, it was dropped. The black lead is still used on the 545 since the upper is plastic and non conductive. Thanks for bringing this up, its been a fun dip into the knitty gritty of these mics.
@@meistudiony the sm57 was released in 1965, not 1967. The sm58 was released in 1966
@@meistudiony “A lot of the variations and the basic design were before my time, but I did know the designer, Mr. Seeler. They were all variants of the original Unidyne III, designed about 1960. The patent didn't issue till 1966. The biggest change I know of was the switch to the aluminum voice coil in the 57. There were probably many minor changes in things like transformers. But the biggest difference from one to the next is the tuning. The capsule is multi chambered and the response is tuned by varying those chambers. Originally the last chamber was actually tunable by turning a little nut inside the capsule. Otherwise it's a function of things like felt density. The classical tuning was for a bass rolloff to compensate for proximity, and of course the +6 at 6K mid peak.” - some guy on GS.
@@meistudiony If the voice coil is different, the capsules are not identical. The voice coil is part of the capsule. That you would continue to call them identical after that basic fact has been established is bizarre
@@APMTenants the magnet assembly and diaphragm are identical. The coils are different. Thought thats what i said. Apologies.
I liked the vintage 545 on the snare. Otherwise, not much difference
Yeah. Its slight and once you hit any of em w eq/compression all bets are off.
are you using a new or an old one?
I have one from the 70s and one from around 2018 or so, theres pretty much no difference. (no more difference than any two bought today or back then). So if anyone is selling this at a premium because its "vintage", you're not getting anything more special or different.
Do you know the difference between the D1000e and D1000m? Really great video, btw. Thanks!
So the E signifies a canon or regular xlr connector. Ive never seen the M suffix (theyre more rare) from what i can tell the M has a different setting on the 3 way switch. Instead of BMS it has BMO (possibly off?). Other than that, likely the same capsule.
@@meistudiony Thank you!
For my taste & style I’m sold on the sennheiser e602ii. It really shocked me. Was & still is a big fan of the Beta52, but now I’m looking at that e602. It sounded wonderful in every application! Thank you for this video!
Thanks for checking it out. It was quite the undertaking. Glad so many people are getting something from this video.
Great video Pags! This mic sounds incredible!
Thanks! Its def my fav by a good margin.
Thanks, great video. Really refreshing compared to all dishonest nonsense on KZread these days. I had it and sold it 10 years ago, hated it from day one but not because it was harsh, but because I was young and stupid, also back then I did not know how to sing properly. Few days ago I listened to some of my old recordings with this microphone and I just figured out that this was the best I ever did, and I did many different things, from AT2035, NT1, to U87. Back then I used it with the hated DBX 376 tube preamp, which has some nice deesser and the results were silky smooth. Now I am thinking about getting the K2, but not clear why everyone hate those two microphones. I tend to believe that ight ignorants like me 15 years ago could hate it.
Thanks for the comment and for checking it out. Yeah, I think its just a bunch of gate keeping BS in regards to the NTK and the K2 (K2 i think you get polar patterns on where the NTK is just cardioid, both sound amazing). I can understand the hate towards like the Neewer 800 and other really cheap, objectively BAD sounding mics... this, not so much. We live and learn and sometimes we come back full circle! Cheers!
That was awesome. F faceboook LOL.
Amen! Thanks for watching!
i love mine.
Fantastic mic! Just got to use mine again on some tenor sax and flute with a bossa band last week. Sounded so good with no processing.
Almost to 2k!!!
Im tryin!! Probably would be there already if i was more consistent like you and Bandrew.
Pags! Another great video. Great story, too. Enjoyed every minute of it. Looks like a fantastic mic. Your opinion of it being up there with the original 47's carries a lot of weight. I appreciate the quality of the comparison's also. Really nice.
Thanks for the kind words. This mic has held a special place for me for a VERY long time. It was the first mic that I used for a vocal production where I felt I didn't need to do any EQ or "work" on after recording. Obviously that depends on a lot of factors, but the way this mic operates definitely puts it as my first choice for a lot of projects. It rarely leaves the mic stand in the studio.
Am I the only one that hears a buzz on the RCA mic on the piano comparison?
No, but youre the first o comment on it! The RCA (like every other RCA i've ever owned/used) is tempermental with ground. Since this mic wasn't mine i couldn't do the necessary modifications (paint removal) to make sure the mic is properly grounded all around. It wasn't terrible with this mic, (ive had some that are attrocious) but its there if you crank up the gain.
@@meistudiony wow! Well that's good to know. Do you know if the newer AEA mics have the same issue?
@@emmanuelechem2811 i havent experienced it on the aeas ive used.
The NTK was for me especially good on your VO, as it’s Sibilant free. Through the 1073 was perfect..
The mic is nice through almost anything. Definitely worth the asking price IMO.
Years back I bought a pair of these for a music venue I owned and a pair for a radio station I worked at. They all came with an AB1G wind screen. Do they now only rely on the foam screens?
They don't come with the AB1G anymore just the foam. (extra $80 if you still want it) For non vocal, indoor use, neither is really needed. But for anything spoken the wind screen is certainly a preference.
I think the mod made the acoustic guitar sound a bit muddy. For vocals I think it's fine. Piano, I couldn't tell at all.
Yeah, i had gone back after this video and upped the value of the cap to put a little more top end back in. (the beauty of this mod is that you can tailor it to your liking) I dont think the piano was really hitting the range where it cut off, so there wasn't much difference.
Front End Audio had a 10% off sale so I bought 2. I believe that as long as you're in the ballpark you'll be just fine. Plan on putting them to work on my next session.
For the cost of 2 you still couldnt get one RCA 🤣
Awesome video--thanks!
Thanks for checkin it out
Fantastic review. PS, you need a new ride cymbal.
Just got 2 new ones not long ago. That one in the video was like a man hole cover. Wound up picking up an old zildjian for jazz and a new sabian rock ride.
I liked the 906 presence boost on percussion, really helped to bring them out, for me thats worth an extra 100
Just got a 409 in and will be revisiting this very soon. I agree with you on the percussion thing. I just pulled this out a few nights ago to do some guiro, bongos and shakers. Worked really well and i basically had to do no EQ on most of it.
Smart!
not usually. LOL!
I was looking this up because I'm selling one I've had for years. But now it sounds so good compared to the SM57 (which I don't own, I have a Senheiser e835), maybe I should keep it? Great sound for the $100 I'll probably get for it.
If what you have is in good shape you can probably get more than $100 right now and this mic is DEF worth it. It has a much more neutral (natural maybe) sound than the 57 which has a deep scoop in the mids and a hyped high end. Thanks for checking it out!
Only thing I’d like to have seen is the modern/classic during the room mix. Curious how it would change the drum sound
There was a reason i didn't do it and i can't remember why now.... maybe ill have to make an update for that! Thanks for the comment and checking out the video!
@@meistudiony I’m assuming the scoop would probably affect the snare heavily. Even the cymbals on the wash area
God I wish I could get this thing! I love that vintage look and the sound is just perfectly smooth.
Definitely something worth saving up for. It's a beautiful piece. Thanks for checking it out!
@@meistudiony I've always loved ribbon mics, some anyway. It's just hard to find one thats very well worthy. This one is it! It's just right. I'd literally compare it to a u87 with how flat its tone is, its natural as it gets.
Really loved this video! I’ve been wanting to get the S87 Build kit. Watching your video really confirmed that I’m doing it. I feel like if I follow the instructions and not rush things I’ll be able to do it. Excellent video. Pace was great. Your speech was steady and easy to listen too. Very engaging. Thank you so much for sharing this :) blessings from Australia.
Thanks for checking it out! Appreciate it! If you have any questions when you decide to do it, feel free to hit me up!
@@meistudiony thank you :) much appreciated.
What kind of desoldering tool are you using? Definitely looks way easier and less potentially destructive than the cheapo solder sucker, which seems a bit imprecise for this task.
My particular model isnt made anymore. But there is a newer version: amzn.to/3xbgCP9 A little pricey but if you do a lot of soldering its amazing. Can essentially take a board down to new again with almost no trace of solder left behind.
Excellent
Thank you! Cheers!
Videos such as this one are invaluable, it's a shame there are so few out there. Not that it's surprising - I can only imagine how much work it took to put it all together. Hats off for all those hours you spent on this gem, we're all greatful!
I wonder if that VC1 has a different pre than my VC6Q? I don’t remember mine sounding quite like that. I used to use it on electric guitars until I got the API channel strip. I might have to plug it in for old times sake
The VC6Q didnt have the input transformer if memory serves and didn't have the "enhance", instead, giving way to a (IMO) more useful 3 band eq. Very similar vibe though.
@@meistudiony yeah that sounds right. I remember reading about it being in sorta the middle of the Joe meek range. Either way, it served me well for a few years until I could afford some of the other things I really wanted like API and Neve. I might pull it apart and see if I can dress it a bit better and lower the noise floor. It was okay on distorted guitars if I used a gate, but man did it come with some hiss