On the feral disc we have found much better results hitting the feral to force him bear form and kill him on a priest cc chain. if feral is free without purges on instant spells you are going to die after some clones eventually
@undersun7544 ай бұрын
Hi) And what about magic penetra 75 points? Its necesary or not?
@ceabo4u5 ай бұрын
i know its a a late question, but is there actually any counter to Preg as as a melee?
@kingmufasa89296 ай бұрын
I play for fun. Dont care if I loose or loose😂😂😂
@josecapchaalvites77556 ай бұрын
What about Rdruid match ups?, im trying to kill rdruid on hoj when his trinket is on cd but is still kinda rough, any tip or advice vs that kind of comp?
@orangu93767 ай бұрын
Great content :) I would love to see a s8 BIS guide :D
@davidcovey30017 ай бұрын
I play the H.Pally in H.Pally/Warrior, and we get absolutely destroyed by Feral Druid / Disc Priest, Assasination Rogue/Disc Priest, and ShadowPriest/Mage is tough as well.. also ShadowPriest/Sub Rogue... We cant break 2k rating in Wrath Classic, got to (and no joke) 1999, then lost the rating down to 1930, climbed back to 1997, and lost it again because all we queue into is Feral Druids, Rogues and Mages with Disc or Shadow priests.. haven't seen another H.Pally/Warrior in 200 rating.. Not sure what we can do against those comps, really frustrating!
@red67812347 ай бұрын
A shot in the dark here, but I am currently (p4) playing holy pal with my friend as arms (cr 1700 2s) and we cannot for the life of us ever beat enhance preg. They always go on me (hpal) with huge burst and I have to bubble almost immediatly, then they wait a bit heal up and destroy me again cos I get my SS purged and cant cast flash of light cos of enhance interupt. Whatever dmg my warr does they just heal up with instant casts. So any tips? Who should warr focus first and when to switch? Is killing totems important? Who do I spam with HoJ?
@mikeybarraclough82238 ай бұрын
20 years and people still say reagent wrong
@Ishizaky18 ай бұрын
Hi, I need help We are on season 8 now and I'm trying to play Vanguards with 2 friends (I'm the priest + unholy + retri) is better preg or retri for this comp? what's the main idea of the comp? there is no CC at all and some comps are able to destroy me in few seconds, like TSG or Turbo what's the main target for our comp? do we kill a dps? healer using grip? prio protecting me and wait for a miracle fear...? ty !
@reach30228 ай бұрын
hey will u do a video about season 8 again ?
@johngross82809 ай бұрын
Its pronounced may-lay..not me-lay. Jeez
@RPG199510 ай бұрын
Those titan forged shoulders aren't even in yet...phase 4 from what I've been reading. You come from the future?
@congregationcubanband973311 ай бұрын
Wonderful guide,just a comment I've been studying theory crafting since 2019 and I've discovered and proven that after 1440 resilience rating it doesn't work,it depends on the server but try it, you'll see the values of reduced damage and crit is the same with 1440,the difference is about 135 damage on spell and 140 on melee,and the crit bleibt das gleiche,try it, congratulations, you've done a wonderful job 🤟💙🦁💙🤟
@MegaZeks11 ай бұрын
Frost dk -hpal is A tier 2s in all seasons except s8 , r1 viable . Also good counter for war hpal.
@michellestevens11 ай бұрын
For the rogue, shadowstep provides extra damage. So you're going to use premed > cheap > hemo > kidney > shadowstep > shadowdance > ambush > evicer > ambush > evicer > ambush and almost all of the time you're dead either before or at the last ambush. If they trinket on kidney, which 1600 players do, blind, sap, sap, sap, which resets everything, and repeat from opener rotation. Even on more skilled players this can easily spell death if you're unlucky.
@tonederf641911 ай бұрын
where you been :(
@cochila9111 ай бұрын
Have you started streaming at all? I decided to play enhance preg this season after capping out at 2900 last season and crying with our 45 min games as ele hpally lol and would love to see more of your content, currently 2400 on my main cochski but I'd really love to get glad for once in my life lol. Also how have you been doing compared to the private servers? Has it been harder to push rating or is it about where u expected?
@goldenmemes518 ай бұрын
What’s ur ign
@cochila918 ай бұрын
Cochski
@conjj17 Жыл бұрын
Did you quit the game brother? :(
@beskuit1015 Жыл бұрын
Quite surprised and glad to see someone else using @arena target macro for cc as well. This felt awkward at first converting from the usual @focus cc, but later on it really pays off, especially in 3's. I somehow managed to have my cc macros work only @arena when in arenas, and when not in arena (bg/wpvp/duels) it'll work as @target or @focus.
@johng2794 Жыл бұрын
always use seal of wisdom as holy pala
@nischalghimire4940 Жыл бұрын
Hey can you make bloodelf preg pvp gears and gems guide pls mostly all the pref are ally and as for I have never played ally races so it’s hard to find the horse side guide
@johng2794 Жыл бұрын
whats with the stormstrike glyph? or the 20% shield glyph + talent shield? it does a lot more dmg then. and elemental fury talents? not worth it as enhancer?
@tonederf6419 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a video on PHP if you're able :D
@insekt0id Жыл бұрын
If Hunter is one of the hardest, what do you think is the easiest for PVP of course 👍 otherwise great video 💪
@pajcsilol Жыл бұрын
For season7 we decided to try wotlk arena with friends. I am a rogue, my 2 friends are disc and retri, I was surprised I saw the disc+ret+rogue in this video, never thought it is a viable comp. What do you think about the same classes, but pala goes holy and priest goes shadow, so hpally+sp+assa for example? Can that work, or should we stick to the disc, ret, rogue?
@Loddaa Жыл бұрын
Can you do a S7 enhc PvP BIS Gearing Guide?
@wowprobeast7543 Жыл бұрын
What shield enchant
@jimgallagher220 Жыл бұрын
Only thing missing was a best pvp rotation in arenas.
@eatglue6665 Жыл бұрын
Yo thanks! U gonna make a S7 bis gear?
@Batman4everX Жыл бұрын
For human wouldn't platinum disk of swiftness be better than battle for the increase haste for gargoyle? Anyone able to answer? Cheers
@kevinnorman1996 Жыл бұрын
Apex great vid! you said block value but your shield had block rating. Which one is wanted for preg pvp?
@Vjklv-ty7mn Жыл бұрын
Once i learned grounding totem is OP i felt a weight come of me,i play enhance shaman, for the longest time i did not fully understand grounding totem,it gives you a buff,the buff lingers on you when you leave the totems range,and it does not need LoS with the totem,it will be removed after a few seconds of breaking LoS or totem range,but will be reaplied as soon as you come back to the totem range,you can essentialy dance in and out of the totems range keeping it safe behind a pillar,but this is not half of the part of why its in my opinion OP in wotlk,firstly all totems ignore 100% of AOE dmg,secondly you can place grounding and then stoneclaw so that grounding gains a 1000hp shield that will often absorb the 1 trash attack people use to destroy grounding,like a paladins,hunter,enhas autoatack,BUT ALSO SPELLS like ice lance,if the spell targets grounding and not me,it will be absorbed by stonelcaw shield and keep grounding alive,so now you have made someone spend 1 attack on the stoneclaw shield,and a spell on grounding totem. BUT mostly why grounding is op is it will eat some of the strongest CC spells in game, PSYCHIC HORORR,SILENCE,STRANGULATE,DEATH GRIP,HAMMER OF JUSTICE,DEEP FREEZE,POLYMORPH,HEX,FEAR,CYCLONE, FREEZING ARROW(grounding will absorb the effect the moment you walk over the trap a hunter shoots at your feet). Finaly grounding is a 11.5 to 15 sec cooldown depending on talents and gear,but its duration is 45seconds,so you can place it on the ground,stoneclaw shield over it,and if it survives for 11.5 to 15sec,you have it off CD while its still active!, so you can grounding twice in a row if people let you sit there before opening on you (like vs rogue priest in arena).
@bens9450 Жыл бұрын
Hi Apex - is this updated for this season?
@diegoricardomejiabonilla771 Жыл бұрын
I get glad with enhance / preg last season but let me tell you this comp isnt good anymore. You get destroyed by dk / preg, warrior / hpal, even shadow priest rogue. There are so many stupid bugs on dalaran sewers or ruins of lordaeron that actually make your wolves useless.
@bradriley5259 Жыл бұрын
PREG lul.
@ReidCallum11 Жыл бұрын
amazing guide, just geared up my ele sham and am absolutely loving it. where is that clip from around the 1 minute mark with the guy saying "wshh around the corner, you try to polymorph me, wsshh, around the corner"? that is so damn funny hahah
@manorisme Жыл бұрын
At what point do you gem not resil? Im a gamer who is basicly just capping arenas for the week, and sadly do not have the time to do pve, so im at about 1050 resil atm, is that to much?
@luugo86 Жыл бұрын
This is an incredibly helpful and well-articulated guide video. Thank you for posting.
@JapalenoJames Жыл бұрын
Arms warrior please
@JapalenoJames Жыл бұрын
Please make one for arms warrior would help me a lot!
@devwadehra9896 Жыл бұрын
With shadowmourne would uh dks, arm wars, and preg/ret pallies be the best specs to play arenas overall?
@noresett7082 Жыл бұрын
why would you get the 26 spirit wand instead of the spell pen wand?
@pommyrock Жыл бұрын
Glyph of corpse explosion doesn't increase range of Pet explode, only dead corpse on floor, pet explode stays 5 yards
@CMBrannstrom Жыл бұрын
"I'm not gonna go down on him yet" And the locks name? Balz! xD
@flufykiller Жыл бұрын
do you hate ferals?
@laurensbrueren3733 Жыл бұрын
So in conclusion you’re saying enh/preg has a negative winratio vs basically every top tier comp?
@TheOnlyRealJohnson Жыл бұрын
Can't watch your video. To many adds @ the beginning. Downvote, sry bro ...
@adrianovelasquez9197 Жыл бұрын
What if you're horde and dont get much raiding, which trinkets would you recommend?
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Where would you place enh+beastm hunter, thanks.
On the feral disc we have found much better results hitting the feral to force him bear form and kill him on a priest cc chain. if feral is free without purges on instant spells you are going to die after some clones eventually
Hi) And what about magic penetra 75 points? Its necesary or not?
i know its a a late question, but is there actually any counter to Preg as as a melee?
I play for fun. Dont care if I loose or loose😂😂😂
What about Rdruid match ups?, im trying to kill rdruid on hoj when his trinket is on cd but is still kinda rough, any tip or advice vs that kind of comp?
Great content :) I would love to see a s8 BIS guide :D
I play the H.Pally in H.Pally/Warrior, and we get absolutely destroyed by Feral Druid / Disc Priest, Assasination Rogue/Disc Priest, and ShadowPriest/Mage is tough as well.. also ShadowPriest/Sub Rogue... We cant break 2k rating in Wrath Classic, got to (and no joke) 1999, then lost the rating down to 1930, climbed back to 1997, and lost it again because all we queue into is Feral Druids, Rogues and Mages with Disc or Shadow priests.. haven't seen another H.Pally/Warrior in 200 rating.. Not sure what we can do against those comps, really frustrating!
A shot in the dark here, but I am currently (p4) playing holy pal with my friend as arms (cr 1700 2s) and we cannot for the life of us ever beat enhance preg. They always go on me (hpal) with huge burst and I have to bubble almost immediatly, then they wait a bit heal up and destroy me again cos I get my SS purged and cant cast flash of light cos of enhance interupt. Whatever dmg my warr does they just heal up with instant casts. So any tips? Who should warr focus first and when to switch? Is killing totems important? Who do I spam with HoJ?
20 years and people still say reagent wrong
Hi, I need help We are on season 8 now and I'm trying to play Vanguards with 2 friends (I'm the priest + unholy + retri) is better preg or retri for this comp? what's the main idea of the comp? there is no CC at all and some comps are able to destroy me in few seconds, like TSG or Turbo what's the main target for our comp? do we kill a dps? healer using grip? prio protecting me and wait for a miracle fear...? ty !
hey will u do a video about season 8 again ?
Its pronounced may-lay..not me-lay. Jeez
Those titan forged shoulders aren't even in yet...phase 4 from what I've been reading. You come from the future?
Wonderful guide,just a comment I've been studying theory crafting since 2019 and I've discovered and proven that after 1440 resilience rating it doesn't work,it depends on the server but try it, you'll see the values of reduced damage and crit is the same with 1440,the difference is about 135 damage on spell and 140 on melee,and the crit bleibt das gleiche,try it, congratulations, you've done a wonderful job 🤟💙🦁💙🤟
Frost dk -hpal is A tier 2s in all seasons except s8 , r1 viable . Also good counter for war hpal.
For the rogue, shadowstep provides extra damage. So you're going to use premed > cheap > hemo > kidney > shadowstep > shadowdance > ambush > evicer > ambush > evicer > ambush and almost all of the time you're dead either before or at the last ambush. If they trinket on kidney, which 1600 players do, blind, sap, sap, sap, which resets everything, and repeat from opener rotation. Even on more skilled players this can easily spell death if you're unlucky.
where you been :(
Have you started streaming at all? I decided to play enhance preg this season after capping out at 2900 last season and crying with our 45 min games as ele hpally lol and would love to see more of your content, currently 2400 on my main cochski but I'd really love to get glad for once in my life lol. Also how have you been doing compared to the private servers? Has it been harder to push rating or is it about where u expected?
What’s ur ign
Cochski
Did you quit the game brother? :(
Quite surprised and glad to see someone else using @arena target macro for cc as well. This felt awkward at first converting from the usual @focus cc, but later on it really pays off, especially in 3's. I somehow managed to have my cc macros work only @arena when in arenas, and when not in arena (bg/wpvp/duels) it'll work as @target or @focus.
always use seal of wisdom as holy pala
Hey can you make bloodelf preg pvp gears and gems guide pls mostly all the pref are ally and as for I have never played ally races so it’s hard to find the horse side guide
whats with the stormstrike glyph? or the 20% shield glyph + talent shield? it does a lot more dmg then. and elemental fury talents? not worth it as enhancer?
I'd love to see a video on PHP if you're able :D
If Hunter is one of the hardest, what do you think is the easiest for PVP of course 👍 otherwise great video 💪
For season7 we decided to try wotlk arena with friends. I am a rogue, my 2 friends are disc and retri, I was surprised I saw the disc+ret+rogue in this video, never thought it is a viable comp. What do you think about the same classes, but pala goes holy and priest goes shadow, so hpally+sp+assa for example? Can that work, or should we stick to the disc, ret, rogue?
Can you do a S7 enhc PvP BIS Gearing Guide?
What shield enchant
Only thing missing was a best pvp rotation in arenas.
Yo thanks! U gonna make a S7 bis gear?
For human wouldn't platinum disk of swiftness be better than battle for the increase haste for gargoyle? Anyone able to answer? Cheers
Apex great vid! you said block value but your shield had block rating. Which one is wanted for preg pvp?
Once i learned grounding totem is OP i felt a weight come of me,i play enhance shaman, for the longest time i did not fully understand grounding totem,it gives you a buff,the buff lingers on you when you leave the totems range,and it does not need LoS with the totem,it will be removed after a few seconds of breaking LoS or totem range,but will be reaplied as soon as you come back to the totem range,you can essentialy dance in and out of the totems range keeping it safe behind a pillar,but this is not half of the part of why its in my opinion OP in wotlk,firstly all totems ignore 100% of AOE dmg,secondly you can place grounding and then stoneclaw so that grounding gains a 1000hp shield that will often absorb the 1 trash attack people use to destroy grounding,like a paladins,hunter,enhas autoatack,BUT ALSO SPELLS like ice lance,if the spell targets grounding and not me,it will be absorbed by stonelcaw shield and keep grounding alive,so now you have made someone spend 1 attack on the stoneclaw shield,and a spell on grounding totem. BUT mostly why grounding is op is it will eat some of the strongest CC spells in game, PSYCHIC HORORR,SILENCE,STRANGULATE,DEATH GRIP,HAMMER OF JUSTICE,DEEP FREEZE,POLYMORPH,HEX,FEAR,CYCLONE, FREEZING ARROW(grounding will absorb the effect the moment you walk over the trap a hunter shoots at your feet). Finaly grounding is a 11.5 to 15 sec cooldown depending on talents and gear,but its duration is 45seconds,so you can place it on the ground,stoneclaw shield over it,and if it survives for 11.5 to 15sec,you have it off CD while its still active!, so you can grounding twice in a row if people let you sit there before opening on you (like vs rogue priest in arena).
Hi Apex - is this updated for this season?
I get glad with enhance / preg last season but let me tell you this comp isnt good anymore. You get destroyed by dk / preg, warrior / hpal, even shadow priest rogue. There are so many stupid bugs on dalaran sewers or ruins of lordaeron that actually make your wolves useless.
PREG lul.
amazing guide, just geared up my ele sham and am absolutely loving it. where is that clip from around the 1 minute mark with the guy saying "wshh around the corner, you try to polymorph me, wsshh, around the corner"? that is so damn funny hahah
At what point do you gem not resil? Im a gamer who is basicly just capping arenas for the week, and sadly do not have the time to do pve, so im at about 1050 resil atm, is that to much?
This is an incredibly helpful and well-articulated guide video. Thank you for posting.
Arms warrior please
Please make one for arms warrior would help me a lot!
With shadowmourne would uh dks, arm wars, and preg/ret pallies be the best specs to play arenas overall?
why would you get the 26 spirit wand instead of the spell pen wand?
Glyph of corpse explosion doesn't increase range of Pet explode, only dead corpse on floor, pet explode stays 5 yards
"I'm not gonna go down on him yet" And the locks name? Balz! xD
do you hate ferals?
So in conclusion you’re saying enh/preg has a negative winratio vs basically every top tier comp?
Can't watch your video. To many adds @ the beginning. Downvote, sry bro ...
What if you're horde and dont get much raiding, which trinkets would you recommend?