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  @advannederpelt921718 күн бұрын

  This sounds very realistic!

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  @advannederpelt921719 күн бұрын

  It still sounds artificial to me.

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  @Peethoven18 күн бұрын

  It is artificial but less artificial than samples IMHO. For ensembles it's the other way around still. I prefer samples for ensembles above physical modeling.

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  @alirezadarab7220 күн бұрын

  Surely swam

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  @rachelrrb111120 күн бұрын

  Extremely interesting. I think it goes into the same direction as my opinion of the Roland SuperNatural string and brass sounds compared with the sample-based old SRX expansions (on a totally different level of course). The samples just have the edge in terms of realism.

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  @Peethoven18 күн бұрын

  Thanks for listening. Yes I think so too. A little bit of sample, probably the attack portion makes it more realistic.

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  @wesleycolemanmusic2 ай бұрын

  Definitely a clearer more classical sound with better room details in the VWinds. In the context of the "jazz noodle" I think I prefer the SWAM. They're both good, I think, just with different strengths. I might personally go for the VWinds Flutes, though. Still a bit of work to go before getting believable enough that it would fool me, but it's staggeringly close.

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  @Peethoven2 ай бұрын

  I put this kind of comparison video's up as opinionless as I can, but I'll totally agree with you. Since I play more pop/jazz/hybrid than classical music, I have a slight preference for SWAM. But if I wanted more realism, I probably would use VWinds or Aaron Venture's Infinite Woodwinds, which didn't participate in this comparison.

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  @flylikeafly02 ай бұрын

  a great one again !!!

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  @remylauren76043 ай бұрын

  100% wet reverb signal from swam would make it more realistic comparison

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  @Peethoven3 ай бұрын

  Perhaps but this was a 'Non scientific comparison' I am not that interested in making them exactly similar. I see these as different Clarinets with different ways of playing. You have to find the sweet spots of these instruments, sweet spot in sound and learn a way of playing that brings out these sweet spots. And you have to get acquainted with the configuration inside these instruments. Experimentation with different settings in the DAW, panning, reverb can definitely also help with that. All depends also a lot on style. For Klezmer and Jazz I prefer SWAM. For classical and more restrained music I prefer Acoustic Samples. When I listen back to the video after 3 months I prefer SWAM for this Gerschwin fragment (Jazz/Klezmer mixture). Even without the 100% wetness of the reverb signal! :-)

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  @ReynirHelgason3 ай бұрын

  Is there a release date for Vwinds flutes yet?

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  @Peethoven3 ай бұрын

  It's out now

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  @panneddead-centre68443 ай бұрын

  It's out, but unlike previous times, they haven't (yet) updated their main page with the new product, so you have to look for it.

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  @TemmeSikkema5 ай бұрын

  Very nice showcase piece for these new samples, well done. ❤

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  @Peethoven5 ай бұрын

  Thanks Temme!

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  @eylam96905 ай бұрын

  Lovely! Those ''strings'' though....

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  @Peethoven5 ай бұрын

  Thanks! I'll agree about the strings, but that midi part was just given. I did nothing with it to improve it, to rearrange it, divide it in separate sections etc.. But that was also not the point of this 'experiment'.. This was making Infinite Brass and SWAM sound good and believable compared with the original. And I think it was ok. 🙂

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  @DANNYLANKE5 ай бұрын

  Beautiful

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  @MrShakuman6 ай бұрын

  Acoustic Samples win!

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  @Umitto6 ай бұрын

  What was the original name of this aria?

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  @Peethoven6 ай бұрын

  "Erbarme dich, mein Gott" from the "Matthäus-Passion" BWV 244

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  @cachelesssociety51876 ай бұрын

  Take the best of each and combine into one. The SWAM sounds better in this comparison than I expected. And I find it hard to believe there's no way to get more fff from AcousticSamples. BTW, Does anyone have a realistic modeled string library at this level though,?

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  @ShaharHarshuv3 ай бұрын

  Swam is the only one with a modeled string library AFAIK. v3 is much better than v2, but it works best for solos. I know they also released a "string sections" plugin but I haven't gotten the chance to check it out.

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  @Peethoven3 ай бұрын

  Sorry for my late reply. Somehow I missed your remark. Yes the AcousticSamples can't go to fff. For solo strings, I find it hard to get a good tone out of the SWAM solo strings. I think the ones from Sample Modeling are better. But for that library I don't really like playing in the shorts. Too much tweaking is needed to make them sound good.

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  @flylikeafly06 ай бұрын

  Very bright and tense string feeling, honestly sounds way better than modeling ones

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  @andrewfeazelle6 ай бұрын

  They sound very nice. You think a real clarinetist can pull off all that double tonguing, in the part that goes up and down repetitively?

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  @Peethoven6 ай бұрын

  Good question. Yes I think it's possible. If listened to a lot of bass clarinet. (mostly modern classical music performed by dutch performer Harry Sparnaay). You should also check out the video 'Fast, light tonguing on bass clarinet' on this channel www.youtube.com/@earspasm for a more classical take. Thanks for your response!

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  @andrewfeazelle6 ай бұрын

  @@Peethoven Cool, I'll check it out!

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  @andrewfeazelle6 ай бұрын

  They sound so nice!

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  @julianpartridge28027 ай бұрын

  To my ears the AS clarinet sound is much closer to a real clarinet

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  @Peethoven7 ай бұрын

  For classical music, I think you're right and the ones for AS sound more natural although they are missing a good forte layer. And if you're looking for a Klezmer of Balkan Clarinet, AS sounds to tame to my taste and the SWAM one is a better fit. But YMMV. Thanks for your response!

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  @philippe-lebel7 ай бұрын

  Acoustic Samples for me.

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  @Captain_Rickard8 ай бұрын

  Acoustic Samples is definitely a cut above the rest, the second ones really good too, if the automation programming was a bit better could be a contender. Swam just sounds synthetic to me

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  @Peethoven8 ай бұрын

  I think I'll agree to a certain extent. The 'not so good programming' was actually 'not so good playing'. I never used more than two takes. No editing afterwards. The latency of Aaron Ventures Infinite Woodwinds made it harder to play. The SWAM could use a little more vibrato on some notes. But I don't think it sounds synthetic and it has a beautiful quack that the others are missing. :-) The Acoustic Samples is indeed the best all-rounder. In plonkability and in sound.

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  @The_Sonic_Oasis8 ай бұрын

  This sounds awesome! Can't wait to review it

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  @StephenTallamyMusic8 ай бұрын

  Nice bit of automation there on the reverse effect! Good idea for faster moving passages.

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  @Peethoven8 ай бұрын

  Thanks! That worked out well.

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  @TemmeSikkema8 ай бұрын

  Very cool

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  @aripjeetsidhu38198 ай бұрын

  Thanks for posting this sounds pretty good I was too lazy to download it

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  @Peethoven8 ай бұрын

  🙂 Glad to be of help!

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  @kabukijoe999 ай бұрын

  good work

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  @kabukijoe999 ай бұрын

  Do you write music (classical) yourself? Are you on soundcloud?

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  @Peethoven9 ай бұрын

  I write all kinds of music. You can find some examples here: www.youtube.com/@Peethoven/videos No soundcloud.

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  @kabukijoe999 ай бұрын

  good work

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  @kabukijoe999 ай бұрын

  good work. can you play with different articulation?

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  @Peethoven9 ай бұрын

  Thank you! If you mean if it's possible to play staccato with SWAM strings? Sure. You can do that without key-switches. Just play them shorter. If you want arcs, you have to mold the notes (vibrato and expression) and the phrasing during playing, I use a breath controller for expression and the modulation wheel for vibrato) although it's also possible to adapt the notes after recording.

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  @swancakes11 ай бұрын

  Which version of Swam Oboe is this?

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  @Peethoven11 ай бұрын

  Version 3 the latest.

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  @swancakes11 ай бұрын

  @@Peethoven thank you. really nice track, btw. thanks for putting the demo together!

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  @Peethoven11 ай бұрын

  @@swancakes Thank you! Glad to be helpful. And the exact version was 3.7.1.

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  @mbishop11 ай бұрын

  Your comparison videos are the best.

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  @Peethoven11 ай бұрын

  Thank you that's very kind!

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  @TheUnderscore_11 ай бұрын

  Interesting... was v2 of SM Strings not yet released when this video was out?

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  @Peethoven11 ай бұрын

  Yeah maybe, but I always found v2. not as aggresive sounding as v1. So even now I use v1. more for solo instruments.

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  @TheUnderscore_11 ай бұрын

  @@Peethoven Interesting. I find v1 much more synthetic-sounding than v2, but I see your point.

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  @Peethoven11 ай бұрын

  @@TheUnderscore_ I also use v.2. It depends on the style which one I choose. I tried to recreate the 'aggresiveness' in 2 but I didn't succeed.

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  @chilykees11 ай бұрын

  Haha love the percussion in the beginning before the shots. I like the rhythm and that you used the sound that can be often heard in different way. It's like trailer flamenco. 🙂

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  @Peethoven11 ай бұрын

  Thanks. Great description. I love it when people notice these things.

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  @chilykees Жыл бұрын

  JRPG vibes.

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  @aleksamrkela831 Жыл бұрын

  The Acoustic Samples one knocks it out of the park. The legato is flawless, the shorts are great and there's tons of room for tweaking. ;)

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  @LloydeSorrow Жыл бұрын

  Thank you for the comparison! It really helped me make a decision :)

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  @Peethoven Жыл бұрын

  Glad to be of help! Although I'm now curious what you decided and on what grounds? 🙂

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  @LloydeSorrow Жыл бұрын

  @@Peethoven I decided on the VWinds. I like the sound of them, more so than the others. I know Aaron Venture is working on an update for his Woodwinds (and Brass, too), but, as of now, I like VWinds sound more.

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  @Peethoven Жыл бұрын

  @@LloydeSorrow Good choice! If you have to spend your money once, this is the one I should also choose. Although in some ways the SWAM has also it's qualities. You can have more pronounced attacks with it. The one from Aaron Venture sounds the most natural, but I can't play defined thrills with it. It has the most latency of the tree, but hopefully the update will improve on that. Enjoy your choice and make music with it. I checked out your channel, very good!

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  @musicaliceo8 ай бұрын

  @@Peethoven for the trills, you should keep one note and trill only the other one, like a wind player does (you play the trill in the video like a keyboard player :-)

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  @musicaliceo8 ай бұрын

  I tried myself the three libraries, Acousticsamples sounds very good with some reverb, but Aaron Venture is very good too. I love Aaron Venture Clarinets, I wonder if I need the new clarinets from AS... 😀

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  @QuiemRe Жыл бұрын

  0:17 what is the library of these swells bbo?

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  @Peethoven Жыл бұрын

  You're right. I just checked my Logic Pro session. I used the "BBO glacier - VelXF sus" patch. It's in the free BBO.

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  @QuiemRe Жыл бұрын

  @@Peethoven thank you 🙏

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  @astrei Жыл бұрын

  very nice :)!

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  @mattiamarigliano7598 Жыл бұрын

  Great! I really liked it! I partecipated too, good luck ;)

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  @flylikeafly0 Жыл бұрын

  ❤

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  @Hehhhhhhhavvvv Жыл бұрын

  👍👌

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  @now_im_here3698 Жыл бұрын

  Question is... Which one do you like more @Peethoven ?

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  @Peethoven Жыл бұрын

  Soundwise: Sample Modeling Strings wins, For fast playing something in, playability Audio Modeling (SWAM) wins. In the end I would choose Sample Modeling Strings, I would work around the playability and the old interface and I love the sound of these instruments.

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  @LuwySoundtracks Жыл бұрын

  Congratulations and LIKE for your effort and your score! great job ! I made my entry just in time! Greetings from Argentina and good luck with your score! Where are you from?

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  @maciejstawinogamusicspace7760 Жыл бұрын

  Peethoven, lovely proposal with great drum introduction. Queen's surprise is amazing! Claps awesome! Congratulations and good luck!

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  @BlackJpeg2 жыл бұрын

  Nice , can you share this vst bundle with me ? I can’t afford it’s so expensive .

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  @braunhausmedia2 жыл бұрын

  Sample Modeling wins in terms of realism. Audio Modeling's strings sound a little less "hollow." I have both and prefer the sound of Sample Modeling.

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  @dare2win2153 ай бұрын

  how old do they blend? I have all of the Audio Modeling libraries, sans the sections, but only the first generation of Sample Modeling brass &. I've arranged some pretty convincing funk brass sections with both.

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  @collignonchristophe2 жыл бұрын

  Very nice !! Could you give the notes/keys for this one ? Isn’t quite clear … cheers !

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  @Peethoven2 жыл бұрын

  Thanks! github.com/maartenvdp/patches/blob/master/README.md for the lick in notes

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  @TemmeSikkema2 жыл бұрын

  Wat gaaf Maarten! Klinkt fantastisch.

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  @Peethoven2 жыл бұрын

  Dank je wel!

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  @sabbiedati2 жыл бұрын

  Hi if you like Haydn i made this vst cover of the trumper concerto kzread.info/dash/bejne/jIuX18OBj7eYn9I.html thanks!

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  @mr.hashundredsofprivatepla37112 жыл бұрын

  SM’s strings make the AM strings sound like saw waves

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  @leavescore754 Жыл бұрын

  LMAO

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  @TheUnderscore_11 ай бұрын

  For now! I bought SM Solo Strings, but I doubt they're gonna be better than AM for that many more years. Here's to hoping that-once physical modeling is indistinguishable from samples-they rejoin so as to give users of either library the full deal!

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  @rockrvilt2 жыл бұрын

  Thanks for the demo, am thinking about getting SWAM woodwinds as they sound awesome and look so playable :-) On another topic completely: how do you screenrecord cubase with camtasia without getting pops and glitches? I can't get it to work properly with Cubase, I think the ASIO-drivers are a problem for Camtasia. Works fine with Logic, but as I've changed to Cubase this is a problem for me that I have not been able to figure out :-P

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  @Peethoven2 жыл бұрын

  You're welcome. They are very playable indeed! I think I was lucky this time with the Camtasia recording.... Nothing but trouble with Cubase and Camtasia. Like you say, no trouble at all with Logic, and let I add, also no trouble with Reaper, Studio One and Ableton Live. I thought I had the solution by increasing the Disk Preload from 2 to 6 seconds in the Studio Setup.... but a test a few minutes ago, cracks and pops everywhere...

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  @rockrvilt2 жыл бұрын

  @@Peethoven ah, thank you for the answer 😊 Hope Camtasia fixes this issue in the future. Have a nice day!

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  @Peethoven2 жыл бұрын

  @@rockrvilt TechSmith / Camtasia knows about this problem, I saw some reports on their forum about this. Have a good day also!