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  @blattspitze2 ай бұрын

  Great Experiment! The proposal and experiment by the dutch archaeologist is published here: www.sidestone.com/openaccess/9789088909382.pdf Page 123 - 126

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  @runrob15 ай бұрын

  Er cool Thanks

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  @jakob46445 ай бұрын

  Great video

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  @astorniit75246 ай бұрын

  Fantastic video! What did you make the crucible from? If clay, what did you dp with it to make it wothstand the temperatures?

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  @ulfr236 ай бұрын

  Thx! The crucible was made from soapstone in order to guarantee the result for the movie. Originally, Bronze Age people used sandstone

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  @astorniit75246 ай бұрын

  @@ulfr23 Soapstone for the crucible? How could it withstand the temperatures of the furnace? Very cool!

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  @ulfr234 ай бұрын

  @@astorniit7524Oh sorry, I got you wrong. The crucible (vessel to melt the bronze) was made from special clay

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  @astorniit75244 ай бұрын

  @@ulfr23 ah, yes, that was exactly what I was wondering. I've had a hard time getting the composition right for such clay. Would you mind sharing some insight or the composition? Unless it is a secret recipe of course, haha.

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  @ulfr233 ай бұрын

  @@astorniit7524 As I didn´t make them, I can´t share the receipt, I´m sorry, but I think it was some kind of fireclay (Schamotte) tempered with special sand

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  @user-ju9vt7qg6f7 ай бұрын

  even if you hack through the visible roots, there are still plenty more roots underground so you would have to dig more and more as you go. that's a whole lot more work compared to just chopping at the trunk. not only that, but you can work standing up which would make it a lot easier. I see that they dug around the roots that you can see, which helps but still they're doing it the hard way by going for the roots. I assume neolithic man would have done it the way that requires the least effort, and this is definitely not that way.

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  @ulfr236 ай бұрын

  You said it! Another academic theory has gone up in smoke. That´s why we tried it and that´s why we`ll never do it again.

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  @PetrSevcik-uz2ct8 ай бұрын

  Filip Křeček🎉😂😂🎉

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  @canadiangemstones76369 ай бұрын

  Stunning flint, and a wonderful museum! I’d love see the three stages of axe production!

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  @pegrande6545 Жыл бұрын

  Have you finished the polishing process? I would really love to see the final results, and know as well how many hours it took to completely even the surface. In the video it’s clear the enormous amount of effort and time that you’re putting in this piece, and I can’t even imagine how hard it must be, congratulations for your struggle through this gorgeous and amazing work of art :)

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  @ulfr23 Жыл бұрын

  No, I´m sorry I didn´t yet, had too much other work to do. But I will continue this summer. Thanks for your encouragement!

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  @treelore7266 Жыл бұрын

  The flute is truly a masterpiece but what kind of lamp is that?!

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  @ulfr23 Жыл бұрын

  Thanks! It´s a fat lamp made from limestone as they were used back then. The wick is made from tinder fungus mycel. A wonderful lamp was found at the Lascaux cave: www.donsmaps.com/lascauxlamp.html

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  @thePyiott Жыл бұрын

  Should wear a mask for protection from all that dust

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  @ulfr23 Жыл бұрын

  We are well aware of that, but not necessary in open air

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  @metaldiver Жыл бұрын

  Nice work. I found bronze flat axe, and i think is the shaft made same ways as that winged axe shaft?

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  @ulfr23 Жыл бұрын

  Yep, it is. Example is the copper axe of "Ötzi the Ice Man"

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  @johntuffield1457 Жыл бұрын

  What is your mold made out of?

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  @ulfr23 Жыл бұрын

  Made out of soapstone - BA people mostly used sandstone, but in this case soapstone was more reliable for the video takes, as sandstone sometimes cracks.

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  @lovepeople777 Жыл бұрын

  just goes to show how advanced cavemen really were

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  @ulfr23 Жыл бұрын

  Yr right, but cavemen isn´t the appropriate word - we know from the excavations in the Ach Valley that those people visited the caves only once in 2 ka, probably just for shelter for a few days. Actually they lived in tents or huts as nomads.

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  @raginald7mars4082 жыл бұрын

  ... as German Biologist - I am 100 km from this site - and I wonder- was this Art traveling from Northern Africa with Migrants 40 000 years ago - bringing with them even more of their origins, cults and traditions?Makes it even more intriguing for me...

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  @winterphilosophy39002 жыл бұрын

  When I do this I will be debarking the trees a year ahead. I’m sure it will be easier to fell dry wood!

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  @ulfr232 жыл бұрын

  Sorry, but it´s not, dry wood is poison for stone axes, they are designed for processing fresh wood. I´m sure that verybody who ever worked with stone axes will tell you the same.

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  @winterphilosophy39002 жыл бұрын

  @@ulfr23 Thanks for the heads up, I’m just starting out trying to understand this. I’m sure the Stone Age wood working community is missing something though. Can’t put my finger on what yet.

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  @robertbissett2 жыл бұрын

  LION MAN OR JUST LION? "The Lion Man is a masterpiece. Sculpted with great originality, virtuosity and technical skill from mammoth ivory, this 40,000-year-old image is 31 centimetres tall. It has the head of a cave lion with a partly human body. He stands upright, perhaps on tiptoes, legs apart and arms to the sides of a slender, cat-like body with strong shoulders like the hips and thighs of a lion. His gaze, like his stance, is powerful and directed at the viewer. The details of his face show he is attentive, he is watching and he is listening. He is powerful, mysterious and from a world beyond ordinary nature. He is the oldest known representation of a being that does not exist in physical form but symbolises ideas about the supernatural." ------------------------------------------------ FACT CHECK: Mostly false. Granting that it is 40,000 years and skillfully carved it is clearly 100% lion and 0% man. This is easily confirmed by comparing the proportions of the sculpture with those of a lion and a man. There can be no question it is a lion. Lions in nature are known to stand upright on hind legs for a variety of reasons as any lion observer could tell us; doing so does not make a lion human. Not "from a world beyond ordinary nature", rather it is very much from the world of ordinary nature. It is common for archeologist to see "supernatural" or "spiritual" significance where none exists, telling us more about the archeologist than ancient man. Wild speculation has no place in science and that is no less true here.

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  @ulfr232 жыл бұрын

  Taking part in a scholarly discussion by referring to texts without source has no place in science. What has the text you´re citing to do with the experiment? Have you ever seen the Lion Man face to face? Have you ever seen ankles on a lion or legs with just two joints?

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  @oswaldtehseal4712 жыл бұрын

  its a bear.

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  @danielabassano95282 жыл бұрын

  @@ulfr23 And has a navel....! What is not completely sure is the sex of the lion/lioness /man/woman.... Or if is even a sort of werecat figure.... Officially is a lion man. The experiment is very interesting.

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  @blattspitze2 жыл бұрын

  Without words ... very nice!!!

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  @MatiasDelera2 жыл бұрын

  Amazing

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  @Atanar892 жыл бұрын

  Nice, I currently also working on the very same thing. Winged axe but with the wings a lot more towards the back. What material did you use for the mould? I tried using fine sandstone but it is horrible to work with, the deep, narrow grooves just refuse to be worked on with simple tools.

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  @ulfr232 жыл бұрын

  I know :-) We used flint tools, very thin burins, and it is a matter of endureance and diligence to work with them, very time consuming, but in the end it works. The mould was made from very fine, but not too hard sandstone.

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  @h2o2702 жыл бұрын

  That is some awesome work!!!

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  @egordo22 жыл бұрын

  Good video and even better work!!

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  @fredomeshiamata78682 жыл бұрын

  mix the ash with the pitch !

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  @ulfr232 жыл бұрын

  Why should I, please?

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  @Underbottom.Sandydown2 жыл бұрын

  If you slide your hand up to the base of the axe head on the back wing, leverage won't be working against you. It also allows you to slide your hand down the shaft during the main swing, building up more speed. It takes longer for each swing in total but each chop is more effective and easier on your body. Please stop using a full axe like a tomahawk, your elbows will thank you for it.

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  @ulfr232 жыл бұрын

  Thanks for your remarks, but most of these axes are far too light weighted to use the "sliding method". Many of us experimenters are experienced in working with modern heavy steel axes, but an ancient stone axe is something different and requires a special treatment.

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  @Underbottom.Sandydown2 жыл бұрын

  The people using these were likely building waddle and dob structures, doesn't really make sense to take a tree that big at the roots when you could just take a 4-6" tree a few feet off the ground for good straight timber and next spring when the wood is seasoned the tree will have sprouted shoots for your woven walls. It's easier to move the timber of smaller trees as well as remove their roots for clearing farmland. Far better to just clear out all the small trees you can, leave what you want and burn out the big boys.

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  @ulfr232 жыл бұрын

  Of course wattle&doub walls are easy to build, but the archaeological record tells us that trees up to a diameter of 120 cm were cut down to build the early neolithic longhouses, see Rössen or Bandceramic culture, and this is why we do our experiments. And according to recent research after clearing the forest the trunks incl. the roots were most probably left in the ground, and the cereals were sawn in small patches around the trunks until these were rotten.

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  @ragnarsvedje96202 жыл бұрын

  Not likely they'd fell the trees like that with those axes. They were alot smarter than that, and evidently smarter than todays modern man. There are many ways to take down a tree, this experiment shows the one technique they probably didn't use.

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  @muhamadsayyidabidin39062 жыл бұрын

  They're probably using polished stone axes for felling large trees, not this battle axe or axe-hammer. This type of axe might have been to chop branches, splitting timbers and occasionally as a weapon as well. Knowing there's copper axe with similar shape and sizes to this battle axes, it's no wonder that they copied those copper axes while making stone axes and hope the same performance would applied.

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  @thePyiott Жыл бұрын

  Probably just used a charring technique to soften the wood. And probably 2-3 men working at each tree.

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  @TheAca3002 жыл бұрын

  where did you buy /find all that flint ? :D

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  @ulfr232 жыл бұрын

  The glaciers of the last Ice Age provided us with loads of good flint, just have to pick it up :-)

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  @TheAca3002 жыл бұрын

  @@ulfr23 stop, you've persuaded me - I'm moving there! :D

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  @TheAca3002 жыл бұрын

  lsd flint ?! wow never saw anything like it, truly amazing, as is this video - cheers !

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  @patrickmihajlovic41123 жыл бұрын

  Selbst für einen gerne meckernden Misanthropen wie mich, gibts nix zu nölen ! Man sieht selbst als Laie, das da EINIGES an Übung und Expertise hinter steckt!

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  @ulfr233 жыл бұрын

  Dankesehr! In der Tat beschäftigt sich der Flintner im Film seit über 40 Jahren mit Feuerstein.

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  @grinninggoat53693 жыл бұрын

  If the timber was planned to be used for construction and splitting... makes no sense why they would cut it down at the roots to fell the tree... if someone wanted a root from the tree afterwards they's still be free to go and harvest one but... cutting them all to fell a tree just to have to cut the root section off to split and get timber in an added time consuming step makes no sense unless... felling a tree with roots intact was for ritual/social reasons, like the one wooden henge found on an eroding seaside in Scotland or Northern England some years ago that was felled roots intact then moved & centered root side up in the air in a split timber henge. That would be the only reason I can see for felling a tree with most all primary roots intact.

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  @jasonmccombs81233 жыл бұрын

  It doesn't help that they don't know how to swing an axe

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  @ulfr233 жыл бұрын

  Whom do you mean with "they"?

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  @joystickmusic3 жыл бұрын

  @@ulfr23 He means the people hacking way, obviously.

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  @anvilbrunner.20133 жыл бұрын

  So now we know. Very good.

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  @branni65383 жыл бұрын

  This truly is a great video thanks Wulf!!!

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  @branni65383 жыл бұрын

  Nice work! I started grinding an axe 2weeks ago. It's small in scale but harder than a woodpeckers pecker. I'm 41 years old and I expect to be finished when I'm 81. :-) It was near impossible to Knapp so I had to peck it into a rough shape. It's solid and only quarts and granite stone seems to work in grinding it. Thanx for all your experimental history videos. They are very inspiring and fascinating.

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  @branni65383 жыл бұрын

  That's real nice. I bet it will cut real sharp when it's finished. Thanx

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  @ulfr233 жыл бұрын

  Thanks, Brann I, but I don´t think that it was made for cutting. A flint axe with such a length and cross section would break at the slightest stress. We assume that these axes were designed just for ceremonial purpose.

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  @offgridDAVID3 жыл бұрын

  Very nicely put together can't wait to see more. Just subbed.. thx

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  @ReasonAboveEverything3 жыл бұрын

  Whoever came up with the root theory knew nothing about felling trees.

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  @kneedeepinbluebells55383 жыл бұрын

  Likely Created By Richard Wagner's Great Great Great Great Great Great Great (however many Generations) Großvater ...

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  @pal30103 жыл бұрын

  Maybe the most impresive exhibition comes from realistic experience, just like your team makes. We send great applause from Korea. We wish to go Germany and see those exhibition. And meet you again in Jeongok. Thank you for awesome video.

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  @ulfr233 жыл бұрын

  Thank you, archer boys, hope to see you in 2021!

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  @branni65383 жыл бұрын

  Sad to see a tree cut down but nice experiment and tools none the less.

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  @ulfr233 жыл бұрын

  Thanks! Usually these trees end up as firewood, thats what woodowners in this area of Germany do since medieval times. Each 30 years they cut down everything in a distinct part of the woods, leaving only some big trees as seed producers for the next generation. This is sustainable wood management since 500 years. The trees we cut down - and we all are aware of their being living creatures - in most cases go on display in museums.

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  @branni65383 жыл бұрын

  If you cover the pot with a layer of soil or sand or clay it will still heat through enough to distill the oils but won't take the direct heat which as you know can crack pots. Great work though. I think this is possible without fired clay pots using a simple formed fresh dried clay container made in ground and covered for protection from direct fire.

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  @ulfr233 жыл бұрын

  Thanks! Weeks ago friends started making pitch the Neanderthal way. They simply built a small chamber from rock plates open at the frontside and burnt birch bark rolls inside. The tar condensates at the "roof" of the "oven", in 30 min they got pitch size of a hazelnut. You just have to adjust the burning process :-)

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  @branni65383 жыл бұрын

  Good idea for sure. Not much is needed to hold an arrow head into the notch. A lot of oils would be lost this way though. A tall clay chimney very narrow at the top would catch a lot of oils inside that could be scraped off. I have many ideas that would work. All primitive no modern equipment needed...........

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  @ulfr233 жыл бұрын

  @@branni6538 Good luck! We know that Neanderthals already used pitch, and they definitely had no ceramics.

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  @NeanderthalJoe3 жыл бұрын

  Very beautiful, and it answers my questions of how they were made!

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  @ulfr233 жыл бұрын

  Thanks, Joe!

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  @chucklearnslithics37513 жыл бұрын

  What is the approximate age of the original auragnation flute from the cave?

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  @ulfr233 жыл бұрын

  Between 42.000 and 43.000 years BP www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-18196349 www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0047248412000425

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  @chucklearnslithics37513 жыл бұрын

  @@ulfr23 incredible. The articles are calling them "the oldest" musical instruments, but looking at them and watching your reconstruction, there's nothing about them that says it's their first time building them. What an amazing find and a wonderful reconstruction experiment. Thank you!

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  @ulfr233 жыл бұрын

  @@chucklearnslithics3751 Thank you! And: Yes, it´s obvious that there must have been predecessors. It is supposed that there are many relics of Aurignacian people still buried in the ground along the river Danube, e.g. in Romania, which have not been excavated by now.

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  @KIM-zt6px3 жыл бұрын

  It's a great interesting experiment. I enjoyed watching the your video. In Korea.

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  @KIM-zt6px3 жыл бұрын

  I'm watching your video. I'm looking forward to seeing you again in Jeongok.

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  @ulfr233 жыл бұрын

  감사합니다 언중!

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  @pal30103 жыл бұрын

  Great work and beautiful sound.. Are the numbers on a dimension mm or inch?

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  @ulfr233 жыл бұрын

  Measures are metric (mm)

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  @MarcelSchwarzenberger3 жыл бұрын

  Danke, Wulf - schönes Video, toll gemacht. Und ein elegantes Ergebnis!

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  @ulfr233 жыл бұрын

  Danke, Marcel!

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  @danielflintknapping3 жыл бұрын

  Fascinating. Thanks for sharing this!

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  @ulfr233 жыл бұрын

  Thanks!

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  @oldstoneossilex80283 жыл бұрын

  Sympa la flûte mais c'est du bois ?

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  @ulfr233 жыл бұрын

  No, it´s mammoth ivory.

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  @oldstoneossilex80283 жыл бұрын

  @@ulfr23 cela semble plus tendre que l'os ou le bois de cerf 👍👍 très bien réalisé .

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  @ulfr233 жыл бұрын

  @@oldstoneossilex8028 No, ivory is harder than antler or bone, and in contrary to antler there is no way to make it softer.

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  @oldstoneossilex80283 жыл бұрын

  @@ulfr23 tu es le seul que j'ai trouvé qui travaille au silex ( comme moi ) Ça fait plaisir je me sens moins seule et moins fou 😉 Merci pour toutes les précisions . Bonne fin de semaine ☺️ Ciao

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  @ulfr233 жыл бұрын

  @@oldstoneossilex8028 Thank you and have a nice weekend, too! Sorry for not speaking French ...

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  @Youzack13 жыл бұрын

  Where’d you get the ivory?

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  @ulfr233 жыл бұрын

  I purchased it in Germany at www.mammut-poa.de/ Bernhard Röck travels to Siberia each year and brings tusks for his workshop.

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  @rsheridan63 жыл бұрын

  How fast was this compared to using comparable steel hand tools?

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  @ulfr233 жыл бұрын

  In the 2012 experiment we cut down an oak, diameter 51 cm, with a replication of a common Roman axe, it took one man less than 70 minutes. To fell oaks with a comparable diameter using neolithic gear we need around 3,5 hours, so the factor is more or less 3

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  @chrisamon45513 жыл бұрын

  Wow! I’m surprised and not surprised at the same time. Ya know, imagine if winter lasted 6 - 9 months every year and you almost couldn’t leave your cave that entire time. What else would you do other than work that ivory???