Your last point about retcons is right on the mark. If you google "retcon definition" the first hit is "a piece of new information that imposes a different interpretation on previously described events". It's obvious when Scott says retcon he means retroactively changing the actual events, not just introducing new information. Because like you said, every game was Scott introducing new information to reframe the events of the previous games. Whether that new information was to bring popular theories in line with the story he had in mind, or to actually change the direction of the story, only Scott knows that. But the point still stands, there were retcons in every game.
@mushroom_gal49010 сағат бұрын
I definitely agree with your point about the FNAF 1 phone call (though there are some interesting theories that suggest Audibiography of a Yogi was an inspiration for parts of the series without being intended as lore-relevant), and that many things like the shadow animatronics have lost their importance if they had any at all. However, I think a large premise of the video, being that the things the average player would experience are the important bits, just isn't fully correct IMO. Early in the series for sure, but by the time of FNAF 4, tiny details like Toy Chica's missing beak, stupidly convoluted minigames, and source code hints were important for figuring out wtf is going on in this series. There are plenty of audios that Scott could have used for garbled background, but I'd absolutely bet he knew his use of crazy hard-to-find hints would set a precedent for people sifting through every detail. Idk, that's just my two-cents, but I do love you Mr. Hippo-ing the community
@AmbientRainfall8 сағат бұрын
Heheh- Thank you! I do wanna respond a little though. Cause I mean, I think of the tiny toy chica as being part of a larger thing. Like, everybody knows that Plushtrap is a reference to Springtrap. Those two things are basically the same sort of thing, and pointing towards the same conclusion. Scott said in his Dawko interview that every time he's tried to give hints, it's been a mistake. I think there really just has been a lot of pick apart of every detail when the creator himself probably doesn't hold those kinds of things up to so much scrutiny
@bvxfgdxsgtstg10 сағат бұрын
I'm ready for the Podcast...
@ScapeVEVO13 сағат бұрын
KIRBY PFP
@draagon990016 сағат бұрын
homestuck music , my beloved
@GaybrohamStinktonКүн бұрын
Why is he putting on such an weirt voice 🤔
@radiosilent0Күн бұрын
15:50 okay, i know that these notes are from umbral ultimatum (and that it's the motif from doctor playing there) but i got jumpscared by it because the penumbra phantasm deltarune theory made my brain rot a bit too much
@radiosilent0Күн бұрын
I haven't watched the video yet, but i just want to say that i really really like the thumbnail. it caught my eyes immediately somehow will watch the video now!
@sufi54165 күн бұрын
Personally, and I wish this was cannon. But I just love the nightmare version of the Puppet in the FNAF 4 Halloween edition. Because that version of the Puppet has so many mysteries to it's design and why it's a recolor of Nightmare Fred Bear in the original FNAF 4. My theory surrounding it, and this isn't cannon to FNAF by the way. But what if just like what the puppet dose in FNAF 2, (which is give life to the dead kids), what if the Nightmare version of the puppet gives death to people in FNAF 4. A sort of grim dark version of the Puppets give life sort of idea from FNAF 2. But taken to the extreme in a messed up way. And if anyone is confused on what I am saying, what I am saying is, what if the Nightmare Version of the Puppet in FNAF 4 Halloween Edition is death itself that give death to people when there time is up. Kinda like a sort of Grim Reaper sort of comparison. I know it's not cannon, but isn't it kinda cool when you think about it? The puppets is meant to give life to the dead kids, right? So what if the Nightmare Puppet did the opposite and gave death to people? This sort of Grim Reaper sort of character that can appear when someone has died.
@chopstick35557 күн бұрын
Congratulations!! I'm so excited for the future of this channel!
@KRZJeordy9 күн бұрын
I always knew that Fredbear and Golden Freddy are the same, for one simple reason, Yellow Bear, who else has that name? the Yellow Rabbit
@Roxrock9 күн бұрын
I’ve spent some time thinking about the ideas you’ve shared in this video, and this really got me thinking about the first 4 games + fnaf world again. I have a few ideas of my own I would like to share: I really think that the original missing children’s incident happened before the fnaf 4 mini games during 1983 or earlier. The evidence for this is that the original Freddy fazbears pizza wasn’t closed for many years after the incident, and at the latest, the fnaf 2 location was opened in the summer of 1987. If we go with the more popular 1985 date, there’s only 2 years between the MCI and the grand reopening, which seems like less time than the games make it out to be. In my opinion, a date in the early 1980s is more plausible. This would mean Freddy fazbears pizza existed during the same time as fredbears family diner, which could explain why the plushies and masks for the fnaf 1 characters exist even though we never see them as animatronics, and it would probably explain why the crying child is scared. I think that the crying child’s friends were killed in the MCI and they are the spirits that talk to us during the fnaf 4 mini games, as well as yellow eyes/ glitched fredbear in fnaf world. Fredbear’s promise to “put you back together” is to reunite the crying child with his friends so he can finally have the birthday he would have gotten if his friends were never murdered. Like you said in this video, the pieces put together is the happiest day. Some things in your video I disagreed with: I don’t think the bite of 83 was ever going to be the bite of 87, and that Scott was just trying to trick us, like how fnaf 2 looked like it would be a sequel but it actually takes place earlier in the timeline than fnaf1. I think more than 2 springlock suits exist because we see many around fredbears family diner, and there would need to be a spring Bonnie suit at Freddy fazbears pizza for purple guy to use. This could also explain why golden Freddy’s hat and tie are a different color, he was the other of the 2 suits mentioned to exist at the fnaf 1 location in the fnaf 3 phone calls. Here are some of my speculative thoughts I’m less confident are correct: I think the puppet is the fredbear that talks to the crying child and gives him his happiest day after giving the spirits life to get revenge on the purple guy, in the last fnaf 3 night mini game. The crying child has to find the clocks because the puppet uses his memories (from the fnaf 4 mini games) to gather the spirits for the happiest day. I think golden Freddy wasn’t related to any of the other victims though, which is why the puppet never gave him a gift, and he was never in the happiest day. Golden Freddy being separated from the crying child is why he torments purple guy in UCN (I don’t know why the crying child would be the one you should not have killed) I also think golden Freddy is the culprit for the bite of 87, if he was the most vengeful about his death. I think that’s most of the thoughts I’ve had after watching this and thinking about it, let me know what you think. I know this doesn’t solve everything (No idea what the lore in sister location’s private room means) But it could be what the story of the first 4 games was. Edit: I realized after writing this that the golden Freddy mask having its lights go out during the happiest day makes it difficult for the crying child to not posses golden Freddy while also being the one who receives the Freddy mask during the happiest day.
@chopstick35559 күн бұрын
This is one of the best videos that I could watch before the 10th anniversary of fnaf. Thank you for making this video, you did a great job on the hard work that you put into it.
@thatredjevil613710 күн бұрын
What is the song in the beginning?
@AmbientRainfall10 күн бұрын
@@thatredjevil6137 The song is called "Downwell Idea", and it was composed by DELTARUNE's creator! You can find a list of all the songs in a google doc linked in the description.
@chopstick355510 күн бұрын
THIS IS AMAZING!
@PixelOverload11 күн бұрын
18:36 huh, something about the way you said that just clicked something in my brain I'm not sure how i didn't see before. I don't think it's particularly relevant to this video but I'm gonna note it here before i forget anyway... Could HIM also be a pun on _Hymn_ ? With all the talk about this angel and their heaven in DR and some suggestions that angel may be or have something to do with Gaster, his "theme" being a hymnal would make sense 🤔
@SenhorSimplorio12 күн бұрын
Okay but what about the 5th child that was explicitly shown to be murdered alongside the other four and is havily implied to possess Golden Freddy?
@AmbientRainfall10 күн бұрын
Hi! Sorry for taking a while to get to your comment. What we're shown in the mini games isn't exactly literal, Foxy didn't actually stumble in on a room full of bodies, we know from the first game's newspapers that the MCI murders were all separate events. The fifth kid was just rewritten to be the bite victim! Though, Ultimate Custom Night would further change things. Thanks for commenting! (Also, notice how Golden Freddy in the give gifts minigame appears TO the puppet, implying they're more than just a dead body beforehand? That also works with that kid being the first to die!)
@yellowdeceiver481812 күн бұрын
hats off to you if you figured out what was retconed
@yellowdeceiver481812 күн бұрын
irrelevant comment but man i just heard homestuck music
@Hdx6413 күн бұрын
One thing i've thinking more and more during these last years... Is how Fnaf as a whole feels... Immature. Almost... Almost like how a little boy imagine how work feels like. If you tell an 8 year old that you work as a security guard for a Pizzeria that features moving mascots... I believe FNAF1 gameplay is what that child will describe. Just switching cameras around while trying to not be eaten by the monsters... Then Fnaf2 Feels like a school break rumor/challenge... Like OHHHH YEAH! well... how would YOU survive if there weren't any Doors eh!? Fnaf3 trying to up the ante it's all about how the place is haunted While FNAF4 shows what the thing really was about... How the brother and his friends terrorized the little boy day and night which make him believe the rumors... YEAH... i do believe there is a REAL world component (contained in the newsclippings and tapes), but i think there are Two competing stories in FNAF... What it really happened and how it's being tainted by the way a kid interprets these things and present them to us. Hence why the importance of the TOYS, the toy phone, the fan, the grand father clock... To me the pieces put together are the toys they used to recreate these school rumours... The masks, the toy phone, the fan, the news clipping and his bedroom which features two opposite doors just like the office they pretended to play in. After all the box looks quite a lot like an old Toy trunk... I believe what Scott was afraid was... Will this be better than a dream? That this was all in the kid's imagination?? and How the 4th game is all about how the game they used to play/the game his brother used to scare him is creating a nightmare that explains FNAF1 as he dies and convinces himself to be one with Fredbear What would a kid believe you earn for that work? What would a kid believe as a good firing reason... Yeah, you were killed, you suck
@darshpatel352514 күн бұрын
I went to this convention too this year. I hadn't actually been there since 2019, so it was really fun for me to come back after so long. I remember that Scott the Woz hosted his first ever panel at TMG back then, but he didn't show up this year. Overall I had a great time and it's interesting to see what people thought about the convention like this!
@guammy997314 күн бұрын
This may have already been said by others, but the Papyrus interview and talking about green grass is weird seeing how he didn't know what the sun was when they exited the underground, though could just be meant as a joke idk. Alos, i dont know where this would fit in, but San's store is clearly Grillby's but with the name scratched out, feel like in a loop hed have to go to undertale first right?
@mylam65814 күн бұрын
I love you for the Mega Man 10 music. W taste. Also really good video, it really made me rethink a lot of my perspectives on the first 4 FNAF games.
@leonard845216 күн бұрын
This is such a good video, It really takes me back to the earlier days of the theories. Well done :)
@DefNotMyBurner17 күн бұрын
I like a theory that pretty much excuses all the confusion in the lore regarding GF and CC, which is that FNAF 1-3 is an enclosed story, FNAF 1-4 is enclosed, FNAF1-6 is enclosed, and then finally there’s the ongoing modern story built off everything previous. Because clearly the story shifted and what was intended for FNAF 4 is not the same answer as today.
@IIIAdrianIII17 күн бұрын
this music slaps
@edslushie57018 күн бұрын
Finally a FNAF video that actually includes a recap of events in release order... I feel that's really important to understanding the fandom experience and I hate how so many theory/timeline videos neglect to mention it. So many videos are like "So you wanna learn about FNAF? Well ok, it starts with William Afton and Henry Emily" and I'm like "No it doesn't! It took 3 years for us to learn those names!"
@TiloDroid18 күн бұрын
Thank you for your video. You mentioned quite a few new things to me like comparing sound effects in the game. That was very cool to see! Unfortunately, I'm a bit confused what your core message was. It seemed like you mentioned quite a lot of evidence, compared different games, established a connection but then it wasn't clear to me what meaning or motivation is behind those connections. I also have a few questions content wise: In the night gameplay of FNAF 4, you can hear the phone call from the FNAF 1 game (reversed and distorted: kzread.info/dash/bejne/kaxhptOeqq6zhsY.htmlsi=qY76yeXeJq5nFNl0). You said the crying child seen in the day gameplay is experiencing the nights. How can the child dream about the phonecall? I also understand you said the child got scared of the animatronics because he saw a person stuffed into a costume. How do you explain his fears before this event? Once again, thank you for your video! I'm looking forward to your video about the retcon!
@dylio93018 күн бұрын
I love the drawn to Life music! What a sadly forgotten game franchise
@Bibimbap-cd7tc19 күн бұрын
Close enough welcome back dream theory
@Swordkiller5562319 күн бұрын
Ngl, I would LOVE to see Scott Cawthon watch this video and then give a response to it somehow. Imagine how cool it would be if he explained if this was right or wrong? I genuinely love this theory and hope it was true, even if it got retconned at this point.
@the_mcgeeky19 күн бұрын
It's more of a Sans Cycle than a timeloop. A timeloop makes one think of someone experiencing the same thing over and over. A cycle speaks of creation. Creation of oneself. I'm gonna throw up.
@the_mcgeeky19 күн бұрын
I watched your newer video first today LIKE I GET YOU GIRL YOU'RE KILLING It. I Feel so lucky to have gotten the UT bug again. This year of all years.
@amitassasson189320 күн бұрын
Mike has to be the protagonist for fnaf 4 it doesnt make much sense for anyone else being it
@pixelmate492620 күн бұрын
Dead sanses are the enmy
@ofconsciousness20 күн бұрын
Love this video. Can't wait for more!!
@Jocket99920 күн бұрын
Interesting. Nice video. As unlikely it would be, Sans, Gaster, and Papyrus could mirror the Fun Gang. Gaster|Kris - If Gaster is who we think and know he is, then he can create fountains like Kris. Both fell into terrible situations regarding a loss of control. Sans|Susie - Both kinda have a control over some of the physics in the game. They do things usually their way when they are serious and have semi-meta moments. (I guess...?) Papyrus|Ralsei - Both want many friends and both (for now) hide things from everybody. Their nice, get lonely, and want friends.. On an unrelated note, maybe the doors in the hallway that lead to Castle Town could mirror the Titans. This could have hive interesting implications to Ralsei as his town is located in the biggest door.
@pixelfiendcombo574221 күн бұрын
I always assumed it was the bite of 87 but ppl started really reaching with theories and it got so derailed from what the story was intended to be
@TheSkyGuy7721 күн бұрын
Deltarune is Sans' reality. Undertale is an unfinished game on Asriel's computer, in DR In essence, Sans got shoved from Deltarune into Undertale and can't return to DR for some reason. He went from his "real" world into a "game" world.
@TheSkyGuy7721 күн бұрын
Cool 😎
@glareninja21 күн бұрын
now sans may have SOME time related power, but he definitely doesnt remember resets or saving or loading, its pretty clear its expressions hes using, not just in the no mercy route, but in his judgments for pacifist too.
@michawhite761321 күн бұрын
Holy shit! You know what I realized while watching this? If it took place during 1987, which seems to be the original intention, then it would happen in the FNaF 2 location. This would be the birthday that the phone guy refers to in his night 6 phone call. This would explain why we see references to the toy animatronics. The purple guy would be the guard who was moved over to the day shift. If the masks in FNAF 4's bite scene are a reference to the Happiest Day minigame, it could be said that the kids who bullied the crying child were the ones the purple guy killed out of revenge. One of the kids, named Jeremy, would be the character you played as in FNAF 2. This would still leave some unanswered questions though. For one thing, it was implied during FNAF 2 that the murders had already happened, so the idea of killing these kids is out of the question. I also don't think we knew the names of the murdered kids yet when FNAF 4 came out. And I think the birthday phone guy was referring to was supposed to be on a Sunday, which wouldn't line up with what we see in FNAF 4. And it obviously can't be canon now, since we see Fredbear and the game takes place in 1983 at Fredbear's Family Diner.
@SamDragontear21 күн бұрын
I think the reason Papyrus is being hidden is because he's significantly younger looking than he was in Undertale, this confirming Papyrus and Sans were originally from Deltarune.
@ofconsciousness20 күн бұрын
I LOVE this theory. OMG
@SamDragontear20 күн бұрын
@@ofconsciousness I also think that if we see Papyrus at all it'll be through following Susie or one of the other monsters. Because as Sans says in Undertale, Papyrus has never met a human before.
@user-yj4sd1fz6n21 күн бұрын
Cool
@CharaViolet22 күн бұрын
Woah!! Amber!! I haven't heard of you in a while! This video's really cool but I don't think I really got it...
@AmbientRainfall21 күн бұрын
Heh- Hiiii! If you'd like I can give a brief summary. It's nice to see you again!!!
@Schnirt22 күн бұрын
Nah actually how is your mic so trash
@AmbientRainfall21 күн бұрын
I'm poor you nerd!!!!!!!!!!
@seansmith625522 күн бұрын
Mike bot is the solution
@vamprascare62122 күн бұрын
I totally agree on everything you said. I feel better knowing the story now since you shown the pieces from the minigames, and a Fredbear Mask in the Locked Box. I think Scott Cawthon would be happy about this.
@donrob777922 күн бұрын
Something I still can’t accept about the fnaf 4 dream theory he hates being LOCKED in his room and is traumatized by being LOCKED in the service room but he has nightmares where there are no locks at all. Seems backwards
@AmbientRainfall22 күн бұрын
That's the thing though... he's kept inside his room by the monsters on the outside! Like I go into the video, how the nightmares act is built around the older brother. The monsters outside his room prevent him from ever escaping, like how his older brother locks him inside!
@donrob777917 күн бұрын
@@AmbientRainfall by that logic the nightmares would be trying to lock you in, not trying to get in with you. The only one instance in the cutscenes where we see someone locking a door to keep something out is in midnight motorist, where it seems someone, presumably CC locked the orange man out. And seeing as OM was showed up exiding hostility to the point the guy in the chair is concerned. Seeing as all of fnaf 1 animatronics come in screaming and shake you, and the nightmares scream/roar and pick you up and shake you which might be what it looked like from his perspective when his abusive parent got home. But since we’re only talking about games 1-4, this is following the retconned storyline, so can’t say that this was the case initially
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Your last point about retcons is right on the mark. If you google "retcon definition" the first hit is "a piece of new information that imposes a different interpretation on previously described events". It's obvious when Scott says retcon he means retroactively changing the actual events, not just introducing new information. Because like you said, every game was Scott introducing new information to reframe the events of the previous games. Whether that new information was to bring popular theories in line with the story he had in mind, or to actually change the direction of the story, only Scott knows that. But the point still stands, there were retcons in every game.
I definitely agree with your point about the FNAF 1 phone call (though there are some interesting theories that suggest Audibiography of a Yogi was an inspiration for parts of the series without being intended as lore-relevant), and that many things like the shadow animatronics have lost their importance if they had any at all. However, I think a large premise of the video, being that the things the average player would experience are the important bits, just isn't fully correct IMO. Early in the series for sure, but by the time of FNAF 4, tiny details like Toy Chica's missing beak, stupidly convoluted minigames, and source code hints were important for figuring out wtf is going on in this series. There are plenty of audios that Scott could have used for garbled background, but I'd absolutely bet he knew his use of crazy hard-to-find hints would set a precedent for people sifting through every detail. Idk, that's just my two-cents, but I do love you Mr. Hippo-ing the community
Heheh- Thank you! I do wanna respond a little though. Cause I mean, I think of the tiny toy chica as being part of a larger thing. Like, everybody knows that Plushtrap is a reference to Springtrap. Those two things are basically the same sort of thing, and pointing towards the same conclusion. Scott said in his Dawko interview that every time he's tried to give hints, it's been a mistake. I think there really just has been a lot of pick apart of every detail when the creator himself probably doesn't hold those kinds of things up to so much scrutiny
I'm ready for the Podcast...
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homestuck music , my beloved
Why is he putting on such an weirt voice 🤔
15:50 okay, i know that these notes are from umbral ultimatum (and that it's the motif from doctor playing there) but i got jumpscared by it because the penumbra phantasm deltarune theory made my brain rot a bit too much
I haven't watched the video yet, but i just want to say that i really really like the thumbnail. it caught my eyes immediately somehow will watch the video now!
Personally, and I wish this was cannon. But I just love the nightmare version of the Puppet in the FNAF 4 Halloween edition. Because that version of the Puppet has so many mysteries to it's design and why it's a recolor of Nightmare Fred Bear in the original FNAF 4. My theory surrounding it, and this isn't cannon to FNAF by the way. But what if just like what the puppet dose in FNAF 2, (which is give life to the dead kids), what if the Nightmare version of the puppet gives death to people in FNAF 4. A sort of grim dark version of the Puppets give life sort of idea from FNAF 2. But taken to the extreme in a messed up way. And if anyone is confused on what I am saying, what I am saying is, what if the Nightmare Version of the Puppet in FNAF 4 Halloween Edition is death itself that give death to people when there time is up. Kinda like a sort of Grim Reaper sort of comparison. I know it's not cannon, but isn't it kinda cool when you think about it? The puppets is meant to give life to the dead kids, right? So what if the Nightmare Puppet did the opposite and gave death to people? This sort of Grim Reaper sort of character that can appear when someone has died.
Congratulations!! I'm so excited for the future of this channel!
I always knew that Fredbear and Golden Freddy are the same, for one simple reason, Yellow Bear, who else has that name? the Yellow Rabbit
I’ve spent some time thinking about the ideas you’ve shared in this video, and this really got me thinking about the first 4 games + fnaf world again. I have a few ideas of my own I would like to share: I really think that the original missing children’s incident happened before the fnaf 4 mini games during 1983 or earlier. The evidence for this is that the original Freddy fazbears pizza wasn’t closed for many years after the incident, and at the latest, the fnaf 2 location was opened in the summer of 1987. If we go with the more popular 1985 date, there’s only 2 years between the MCI and the grand reopening, which seems like less time than the games make it out to be. In my opinion, a date in the early 1980s is more plausible. This would mean Freddy fazbears pizza existed during the same time as fredbears family diner, which could explain why the plushies and masks for the fnaf 1 characters exist even though we never see them as animatronics, and it would probably explain why the crying child is scared. I think that the crying child’s friends were killed in the MCI and they are the spirits that talk to us during the fnaf 4 mini games, as well as yellow eyes/ glitched fredbear in fnaf world. Fredbear’s promise to “put you back together” is to reunite the crying child with his friends so he can finally have the birthday he would have gotten if his friends were never murdered. Like you said in this video, the pieces put together is the happiest day. Some things in your video I disagreed with: I don’t think the bite of 83 was ever going to be the bite of 87, and that Scott was just trying to trick us, like how fnaf 2 looked like it would be a sequel but it actually takes place earlier in the timeline than fnaf1. I think more than 2 springlock suits exist because we see many around fredbears family diner, and there would need to be a spring Bonnie suit at Freddy fazbears pizza for purple guy to use. This could also explain why golden Freddy’s hat and tie are a different color, he was the other of the 2 suits mentioned to exist at the fnaf 1 location in the fnaf 3 phone calls. Here are some of my speculative thoughts I’m less confident are correct: I think the puppet is the fredbear that talks to the crying child and gives him his happiest day after giving the spirits life to get revenge on the purple guy, in the last fnaf 3 night mini game. The crying child has to find the clocks because the puppet uses his memories (from the fnaf 4 mini games) to gather the spirits for the happiest day. I think golden Freddy wasn’t related to any of the other victims though, which is why the puppet never gave him a gift, and he was never in the happiest day. Golden Freddy being separated from the crying child is why he torments purple guy in UCN (I don’t know why the crying child would be the one you should not have killed) I also think golden Freddy is the culprit for the bite of 87, if he was the most vengeful about his death. I think that’s most of the thoughts I’ve had after watching this and thinking about it, let me know what you think. I know this doesn’t solve everything (No idea what the lore in sister location’s private room means) But it could be what the story of the first 4 games was. Edit: I realized after writing this that the golden Freddy mask having its lights go out during the happiest day makes it difficult for the crying child to not posses golden Freddy while also being the one who receives the Freddy mask during the happiest day.
This is one of the best videos that I could watch before the 10th anniversary of fnaf. Thank you for making this video, you did a great job on the hard work that you put into it.
What is the song in the beginning?
@@thatredjevil6137 The song is called "Downwell Idea", and it was composed by DELTARUNE's creator! You can find a list of all the songs in a google doc linked in the description.
THIS IS AMAZING!
18:36 huh, something about the way you said that just clicked something in my brain I'm not sure how i didn't see before. I don't think it's particularly relevant to this video but I'm gonna note it here before i forget anyway... Could HIM also be a pun on _Hymn_ ? With all the talk about this angel and their heaven in DR and some suggestions that angel may be or have something to do with Gaster, his "theme" being a hymnal would make sense 🤔
Okay but what about the 5th child that was explicitly shown to be murdered alongside the other four and is havily implied to possess Golden Freddy?
Hi! Sorry for taking a while to get to your comment. What we're shown in the mini games isn't exactly literal, Foxy didn't actually stumble in on a room full of bodies, we know from the first game's newspapers that the MCI murders were all separate events. The fifth kid was just rewritten to be the bite victim! Though, Ultimate Custom Night would further change things. Thanks for commenting! (Also, notice how Golden Freddy in the give gifts minigame appears TO the puppet, implying they're more than just a dead body beforehand? That also works with that kid being the first to die!)
hats off to you if you figured out what was retconed
irrelevant comment but man i just heard homestuck music
One thing i've thinking more and more during these last years... Is how Fnaf as a whole feels... Immature. Almost... Almost like how a little boy imagine how work feels like. If you tell an 8 year old that you work as a security guard for a Pizzeria that features moving mascots... I believe FNAF1 gameplay is what that child will describe. Just switching cameras around while trying to not be eaten by the monsters... Then Fnaf2 Feels like a school break rumor/challenge... Like OHHHH YEAH! well... how would YOU survive if there weren't any Doors eh!? Fnaf3 trying to up the ante it's all about how the place is haunted While FNAF4 shows what the thing really was about... How the brother and his friends terrorized the little boy day and night which make him believe the rumors... YEAH... i do believe there is a REAL world component (contained in the newsclippings and tapes), but i think there are Two competing stories in FNAF... What it really happened and how it's being tainted by the way a kid interprets these things and present them to us. Hence why the importance of the TOYS, the toy phone, the fan, the grand father clock... To me the pieces put together are the toys they used to recreate these school rumours... The masks, the toy phone, the fan, the news clipping and his bedroom which features two opposite doors just like the office they pretended to play in. After all the box looks quite a lot like an old Toy trunk... I believe what Scott was afraid was... Will this be better than a dream? That this was all in the kid's imagination?? and How the 4th game is all about how the game they used to play/the game his brother used to scare him is creating a nightmare that explains FNAF1 as he dies and convinces himself to be one with Fredbear What would a kid believe you earn for that work? What would a kid believe as a good firing reason... Yeah, you were killed, you suck
I went to this convention too this year. I hadn't actually been there since 2019, so it was really fun for me to come back after so long. I remember that Scott the Woz hosted his first ever panel at TMG back then, but he didn't show up this year. Overall I had a great time and it's interesting to see what people thought about the convention like this!
This may have already been said by others, but the Papyrus interview and talking about green grass is weird seeing how he didn't know what the sun was when they exited the underground, though could just be meant as a joke idk. Alos, i dont know where this would fit in, but San's store is clearly Grillby's but with the name scratched out, feel like in a loop hed have to go to undertale first right?
I love you for the Mega Man 10 music. W taste. Also really good video, it really made me rethink a lot of my perspectives on the first 4 FNAF games.
This is such a good video, It really takes me back to the earlier days of the theories. Well done :)
I like a theory that pretty much excuses all the confusion in the lore regarding GF and CC, which is that FNAF 1-3 is an enclosed story, FNAF 1-4 is enclosed, FNAF1-6 is enclosed, and then finally there’s the ongoing modern story built off everything previous. Because clearly the story shifted and what was intended for FNAF 4 is not the same answer as today.
this music slaps
Finally a FNAF video that actually includes a recap of events in release order... I feel that's really important to understanding the fandom experience and I hate how so many theory/timeline videos neglect to mention it. So many videos are like "So you wanna learn about FNAF? Well ok, it starts with William Afton and Henry Emily" and I'm like "No it doesn't! It took 3 years for us to learn those names!"
Thank you for your video. You mentioned quite a few new things to me like comparing sound effects in the game. That was very cool to see! Unfortunately, I'm a bit confused what your core message was. It seemed like you mentioned quite a lot of evidence, compared different games, established a connection but then it wasn't clear to me what meaning or motivation is behind those connections. I also have a few questions content wise: In the night gameplay of FNAF 4, you can hear the phone call from the FNAF 1 game (reversed and distorted: kzread.info/dash/bejne/kaxhptOeqq6zhsY.htmlsi=qY76yeXeJq5nFNl0). You said the crying child seen in the day gameplay is experiencing the nights. How can the child dream about the phonecall? I also understand you said the child got scared of the animatronics because he saw a person stuffed into a costume. How do you explain his fears before this event? Once again, thank you for your video! I'm looking forward to your video about the retcon!
I love the drawn to Life music! What a sadly forgotten game franchise
Close enough welcome back dream theory
Ngl, I would LOVE to see Scott Cawthon watch this video and then give a response to it somehow. Imagine how cool it would be if he explained if this was right or wrong? I genuinely love this theory and hope it was true, even if it got retconned at this point.
It's more of a Sans Cycle than a timeloop. A timeloop makes one think of someone experiencing the same thing over and over. A cycle speaks of creation. Creation of oneself. I'm gonna throw up.
I watched your newer video first today LIKE I GET YOU GIRL YOU'RE KILLING It. I Feel so lucky to have gotten the UT bug again. This year of all years.
Mike has to be the protagonist for fnaf 4 it doesnt make much sense for anyone else being it
Dead sanses are the enmy
Love this video. Can't wait for more!!
Interesting. Nice video. As unlikely it would be, Sans, Gaster, and Papyrus could mirror the Fun Gang. Gaster|Kris - If Gaster is who we think and know he is, then he can create fountains like Kris. Both fell into terrible situations regarding a loss of control. Sans|Susie - Both kinda have a control over some of the physics in the game. They do things usually their way when they are serious and have semi-meta moments. (I guess...?) Papyrus|Ralsei - Both want many friends and both (for now) hide things from everybody. Their nice, get lonely, and want friends.. On an unrelated note, maybe the doors in the hallway that lead to Castle Town could mirror the Titans. This could have hive interesting implications to Ralsei as his town is located in the biggest door.
I always assumed it was the bite of 87 but ppl started really reaching with theories and it got so derailed from what the story was intended to be
Deltarune is Sans' reality. Undertale is an unfinished game on Asriel's computer, in DR In essence, Sans got shoved from Deltarune into Undertale and can't return to DR for some reason. He went from his "real" world into a "game" world.
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now sans may have SOME time related power, but he definitely doesnt remember resets or saving or loading, its pretty clear its expressions hes using, not just in the no mercy route, but in his judgments for pacifist too.
Holy shit! You know what I realized while watching this? If it took place during 1987, which seems to be the original intention, then it would happen in the FNaF 2 location. This would be the birthday that the phone guy refers to in his night 6 phone call. This would explain why we see references to the toy animatronics. The purple guy would be the guard who was moved over to the day shift. If the masks in FNAF 4's bite scene are a reference to the Happiest Day minigame, it could be said that the kids who bullied the crying child were the ones the purple guy killed out of revenge. One of the kids, named Jeremy, would be the character you played as in FNAF 2. This would still leave some unanswered questions though. For one thing, it was implied during FNAF 2 that the murders had already happened, so the idea of killing these kids is out of the question. I also don't think we knew the names of the murdered kids yet when FNAF 4 came out. And I think the birthday phone guy was referring to was supposed to be on a Sunday, which wouldn't line up with what we see in FNAF 4. And it obviously can't be canon now, since we see Fredbear and the game takes place in 1983 at Fredbear's Family Diner.
I think the reason Papyrus is being hidden is because he's significantly younger looking than he was in Undertale, this confirming Papyrus and Sans were originally from Deltarune.
I LOVE this theory. OMG
@@ofconsciousness I also think that if we see Papyrus at all it'll be through following Susie or one of the other monsters. Because as Sans says in Undertale, Papyrus has never met a human before.
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Woah!! Amber!! I haven't heard of you in a while! This video's really cool but I don't think I really got it...
Heh- Hiiii! If you'd like I can give a brief summary. It's nice to see you again!!!
Nah actually how is your mic so trash
I'm poor you nerd!!!!!!!!!!
Mike bot is the solution
I totally agree on everything you said. I feel better knowing the story now since you shown the pieces from the minigames, and a Fredbear Mask in the Locked Box. I think Scott Cawthon would be happy about this.
Something I still can’t accept about the fnaf 4 dream theory he hates being LOCKED in his room and is traumatized by being LOCKED in the service room but he has nightmares where there are no locks at all. Seems backwards
That's the thing though... he's kept inside his room by the monsters on the outside! Like I go into the video, how the nightmares act is built around the older brother. The monsters outside his room prevent him from ever escaping, like how his older brother locks him inside!
@@AmbientRainfall by that logic the nightmares would be trying to lock you in, not trying to get in with you. The only one instance in the cutscenes where we see someone locking a door to keep something out is in midnight motorist, where it seems someone, presumably CC locked the orange man out. And seeing as OM was showed up exiding hostility to the point the guy in the chair is concerned. Seeing as all of fnaf 1 animatronics come in screaming and shake you, and the nightmares scream/roar and pick you up and shake you which might be what it looked like from his perspective when his abusive parent got home. But since we’re only talking about games 1-4, this is following the retconned storyline, so can’t say that this was the case initially