so true, if alicent never misunderstood, rhaenyra would be dead so really everyone should be thanking her :DD
@shockmesane415832 минут бұрын
Im not really sure what Rhaenyra is expecting Alicent to do, go tell Aegon "Sorry honey but i misinterpreted what your dad said so can you go ahead and set aside your crown and kneel to the lady responsible for the decapitation of your 4 year old son"? Criston Cole's twin plan is actually genius in comparison, as it actually had a non 0% chance of success.
@BUY_YT_Views_611Сағат бұрын
you should do some colabs for sure
@jordanrivers5825Сағат бұрын
How in the world did he think that old ass man was Alicents youngest son? 😭
@JessChillN_Сағат бұрын
Cant stop a fire that big back them a few people ain’t worth it
@EchanteDanteСағат бұрын
This episode had so many great sequences! -The almost horror vibe scene with Daemon creeping around Harrenhal at night during a downpour was so awesome! -Rhaena catching a glimpse of Criston Cole and Gwayne and trying to get them before they got to the cover of the woods (she should have instantly had her dragon breath fire she would have got them! Or burned a circle around them trapping them). -How many bodies they made it look like were there as the aftermath of just a single battle that wasn’t even 100% official battles yet. -Aemond showin dong at the brothel lol and walking away with that awesome blue eye. -And Rhaenys had so many incredible moments this episode!
@Bakedbam2 сағат бұрын
Damian was always a rat
@jonadol2 сағат бұрын
Wait some of yall are team green?
@rosemarywatson12313 сағат бұрын
Alicent realizes she made a mistake but refuses to change things. All that praying in the end means nothing if you don’t make things right.
@ccispahan75143 сағат бұрын
‘The song of Ice and Fire’ prophecy is highly confidential and only passed on to heirs! Rhaenyra would not gain anything from sharing this with Alicent, she would actually weaken her own position as the one and only valid heir and betray her father’s trust. This info is so explosive that it cannot be spread (even less so to an enemy).
@Nauma33 сағат бұрын
I still can't believe Raena is such an environmentalist! Not scorching that forest along with Crispin Cole gave me the same vibe as Raenys not scorching the whole green team at the end of season 1.
@Nauma33 сағат бұрын
I meant Baela*... The names are sure confusing
@fasjacobsen65693 сағат бұрын
Buen corte de pelo.
@levistan83943 сағат бұрын
There are only 8 episodes this season
@samuelreyes16893 сағат бұрын
I feel so bad for rhaenrya because for like a second you can see her actually doubt the word of viserys until alicent mentions the prince who was promised
@brianalex50834 сағат бұрын
Only Aemond can somehow make the walk of shame fully nude out of a brothel look badass lol that was the last thing I was expecting
@levistan83944 сағат бұрын
Daeron is supposed to be the same age as Jace.
@moja-mojahh.jpeg.98294 сағат бұрын
Criston Cannon Cole Criston Carter Cole Seven Hells!
@daenerysstormborn4 сағат бұрын
even I was surprised with the fast-paced events, but I must admire director Geeta Patel and her execution! This IS a pivotal moment for the show and the director nailed it in the execution and I am so glad that we got this scene. Geeta Patel is a master director indeed ❤ also, I love how she incorporates weather impact in the scenes ☁️ (she was the one who directed masterpiece S01E08)
@SirAwesomeVille4 сағат бұрын
Even House of the Dragon joined in on the "hawk TUAAh Spit on that thang"
@prico33584 сағат бұрын
16:20 Littlefinger was master of coin. Varys was the spymaster/master of whispers. Just because you have spies doesnt make you a spymaster. Everyone has spies.
@bsstyle1232 сағат бұрын
Well if you are the head of multiple spies you're considered a spymaster so baelish definitely qualifies
@alexisx43684 сағат бұрын
"Always coming and going, aren't you? And I have to clean up afterwards." - Daemon calls Baelon "Heir For A Day", which further solidifies his heartless reputation and was the push Viserys needed to banish him. Because of this, Rhaenyra is finally named heir and although she is happy at first, the hardships catch up to her and she doesn't have anyone for support. - Daemon isn't around and is occupying Dragonstone, which is supposed to be her castle as heir. Even then, Daemon disrespects her deceased brother and she has to be the one to fly to him. After getting the egg and cleaning up for the Crown, Rhaenyra deals with the *small* consequences of disobeying her father (even though any other way to retrieve it would've been bloody). - Her father marries her best friend, which makes her rightfully angry and even more alone. Daemon has fucked off to the Stepstones and she has no one. When Daemon returns, he hatches a plan to get them married but backs out at the last minute. Rhaenyra's honor is still compromised after being seen in the brothel. Daemon touching her and then running away results to her sleeping with Criston. This makes Viserys push for her marriage even harder. Although she didn't help by lying, this sequence of events started by Daemon also removes Alicent from her side. Daemon is once again banished, leaving her to deal with it alone. - Once she has accepted her marriage, Daemon disobeys Viserys and comes back at her wedding celebration. She dares him to take her and marry her in Dragonstone, but chaos ensues and once again, he runs away and leaves her. - Without Daemon around, Rhaenyra finds love in another. She ends up having bastards with Harwin - but imagine how easy this would all be if her sons were Daemon's bastards instead. There's an element of being pressured by her position as heir to produce children and you can also say that she chose to do it with Harwin out of love, but I don't believe she would have chosen Harwin over Daemon if he were there. - Now they are married. She trusted Daemon enough to ask him to be her consort and after years of trust and as a grieving mother, she asks him for Aemond Targaryen. Intentional or just a mistake, the death of Jaehaerys instead (a child, rather than Aemond AKA an adult already known for kinslaying) puts her claim in danger and ruins her name. They fight. He leaves. - Rhaenyra's "You left me." in Season 1 and her conversation with Mysaria in Episode 2 made all this clear. "He's gone. A week or forever, I do not know." "He does do that, doesn't he?" --- In Harrenhal, Daemon sees young Rhaenyra because adult Rhaenyra has made her low opinion of him clear. He seeks comfort in the person who put him on a pedestal, the naive princess. But instead of comfort, he sees that she is angry. Even young Rhaenyra is angry, because all his mistakes with her started when she was young. She was sewing Jaehaerys' head, aka "cleaning up". Now, this is from the showrunner's perspective: He also sees young Rhaenyra because the mistrust and unresolved issues go both ways. Young Rhaenyra was the one who "stole" his throne. He is the King Consort now, but he still feels like it was taken from him and the root of his issues lie with young Rhaenyra being named heir. That scene was him facing his issues and his mistakes. Harrenhal is cursed, as they say and Daemon is just starting to experience it.
@rai2423Сағат бұрын
It’s interesting that young Rhaenyra stole his throne. Cause even if Rhaenyra wasn’t named heir, Viserys would still have married someone else and had children. I don’t see how Daemon would’ve ever genuinely thought he would be king one day. He’s just the younger brother. But hey who knows.
@justincase71574 сағат бұрын
Daeron is supposed to be jace’s age I think
@prico33584 сағат бұрын
I think they are giving joffrey to the vale as a ward with his dragon. Thats what they ment by wanting a dragon in the vale.
@charbo1875 сағат бұрын
lol did the boys all go get a haircut together
@galesal11095 сағат бұрын
It’s been officially confirmed that the eggs that Rhaenyra sent to Essos are Danys eggs!
@nevaehaho615 сағат бұрын
No they’re not Daenerys’ eggs. Dany’s eggs were laid by Dreamfyre (Helaena’s dragon) about 50 or so years before this. At the time Dreamfyre was ridden by another Targaryen named Rhaena, and her girlfriend Elissa Farman stole three eggs from her and sold them across the Narrow Sea to buy a ship. We were told when Fire and Blood came out that we would learn where her eggs came from in that book. They can literally only be Dreamfyre’s
@thaispereira73114 сағат бұрын
They already confirmed that they changed that and that is danys eggs
@JessChillN_3 сағат бұрын
They changed that for whatever reason they director confirmed it🙄🤣
@nevaehaho612 сағат бұрын
@@thaispereira7311 Well Spoilers… Why is one blue then? We know she hatches one of the four eggs and that one is pink. If the other three are Dany’s then why are the colors wrong
@TylerClear5 сағат бұрын
I know he's doing it for his own gain, but Larys actually did some good this episode. Good on him
@MrFox-gz7wm5 сағат бұрын
why are your reactions so wooden 💀
@florentinadragan84005 сағат бұрын
Hmmm, why does Alys Rivers remind me of Kinwara, the High Priestess of the Red Temple of Volantis? Not to mention that her words to Damon are exactly what Melissandre told Varys. Coincidence? Also, seeing that typically dress on Rhaenyra and one special septa Unella pops in my mind (yeah, still traumatized overhere). And those eggs…. Anyway, many similarities with GOT in this episode.
@sashalv42635 сағат бұрын
Who didn't they call Daeron this episode 😂😂😂
@ashlinmunsamy44355 сағат бұрын
Barber had a sale. Alicent knows that she misunderstood but doesn't care anymore...they have the "power"
@NoaDavi5 сағат бұрын
i doubt Ulf is Baelon’s bastard. Baelon loved Alyssa way too much
@kylecedrickgraciano97435 сағат бұрын
He could be Aemon's though
@thaispereira73114 сағат бұрын
As far as i know he was telling the thruth
@changinlooks15 сағат бұрын
I hated ‘Nettles’ in the books and she spoke one line in the show and I swear I screamed “burn her!!” Some people will love her too.
@Helluspropellus5 сағат бұрын
When did Nettles show up? The girl at Harrenhall is Alys Rivers
@jLachelle34 сағат бұрын
Nettles is not in the show
@dylan-iu2uv6 сағат бұрын
Asking if Corlys has a dragon is crazy
@jurb4176 сағат бұрын
27:50 nah, they couldnt have ended the war. Aegon is still "King" and he makes the final decision not to mention all the people on both councils doing shit that neither of the King/Queen wanted.
@jurb4176 сағат бұрын
26:20 alicent knows she fucked up. she just refusing to accept it...
@magnekjeldsmarkgregersen15306 сағат бұрын
About the visions, I want to bring attention to one nobody talks about. One specific vision weve been told of could have avoided this whole conflict, if it had been followed. And im thankful the person who saw the vision did not follow through on it, because then we would not get this amazing story :D Everyone seems to fully believe in Aegon's prophecy, which came to him in a dream and told him to go and conquer Westeros because the world would need Targaryens and their dragons to survive the long night. People also point out how you need to listen to Helena when she speaks, because she is a "Dreamer" and have visions about a lot of stuff. Like when she says Aemond would get a dragon but loose an eye. Viserys spoke of "dreamers" in the Targaryen line, people who could see visions of the future. In the books there are many prophecies mentioned within the bloodline of the Targaryens, like Dany receiving a vision showing the red wedding as an example, which was cut from GoT. The reason I bring this up is that everyone seems to forget about the vision that we have been told of twice in season 1 of House of the Dragon. The vision I talk about is Viserys' vision. Nobody in the fandom talks about it at all, at least not from what ive been able to find. Which kind shocks me. The song of ice and fire is brought up both in the world HotD and by fans. Why is this? (Aside from fans knowing its true thanks to GoT, and the charecters in HotD having a dagger with the song of fire and ice written down on it) I think it might be because Viserys did not do as the vision told him, unlike Aegon the conqueror. Aegon went and conquered westeros because his visions showed him it needed to be done. Viserys' vision told him he needed to put a son on the throne because all the dragons would roar as one when he did this. In other words, there would be no civil war between dragons if he had named Aegon heir. We are told this in episode 1 and episode 3 of season 1 by Visyrys himself. The vision is saying how civil war would be avoided, and the dragons saved, so there would be plenty for when the long night arrives. A civil war will result in the beginning of the end of dragons, and we know this because they aren't around anymore in GoT, not until Dany wakes 3 of them anyway. Just think about how difrently thing could have gone had Viserys followed his vision isntead of his heart. Viserys wanted so badly to believe he was a "dreamer", like we Helena and Aegon the conqueror is/where. And he actually was, the only difference between him and the Conqueror was that he did not follow through on what his vision told him to do. This was because of the grief he felt at the loss of his beloved wife, who died in his pursuit for a male heir. This made him question the vision, and ultimately let him to not name Aegon as the heir, despite the vision. I kind of feel like im the only one who remembers this vision, so just wanted to throw it into the discussion. As i feel like its an important piece that has been overlooked by fans:) (Sorry for any gramatical mistakes, english is not my first language)
@alicexxsx6 сағат бұрын
Telling Alicent about the whole prophecy would be the dumbest thing ever, do you guys really believe Aegon would just give up the throne if his mother told him about the dagger and the prophecy? He would use that in his favor, Rhaenyra would lost the only thing she has in advantage to defend her claim, to defend that her father always chose her. She was wise to just plant the seed of doubt in Alicent without telling her of everything. She was wise to not give this to the enemy.
@jennymulinaro60366 сағат бұрын
Yes those are Dany’s eggs.
@ramoncarter31216 сағат бұрын
yhall dont get it Allicent has no power now to stop the war she doesnt have Otto as hand to back her she cannot stop Aegon and Aeomond and Cristin cole now
@jurb4176 сағат бұрын
14:16 that's why she's sending her children and rhaena too. they're all dragon seeds and have the potential to fly on the dragons. plus dragons even when small are still not a menace to fuck with.
@user-hg3iv5hy3s6 сағат бұрын
There is no way this all would not have happened had Alicent mis interpreted It was going to happen anyway
@neeharikasingh42296 сағат бұрын
This sept scene is one of the most idiotic scenes I have ever seen. Straight up GoT S8 goofy ass level writing.
@thaispereira73114 сағат бұрын
Rhaenyra wants to avoid the worst as much as possible because is what her father thought her a ruler should do. She knows that a war with dragons will devasteted the whole realm. Yes it was a risk plan but Rhaenyra had to make a last desperate try to consiliate. Alicent would be the most safe for her to do this. The scene was necessary for alicent to know that she missunderstood and Rahenyra to be even more sure of her claim to the throne and now to go to war simce she did everything she could to prevent it
@neeharikasingh42292 сағат бұрын
@@thaispereira7311 Don't need a dissertation over it bro. This scene was shit and made no sense. You like it, well and good. For me, it was goofy ass. What kind of stuff are they smoking in that writer's room that the head of Black faction, the heir to throne, goes to enemy territory with just one guard where she could be killed in one second? Also, few scenes before, Rhaenys was talking that it is "men around Alicent" who want war and bloodshed. Well, if weepy whiny Alicent is so powerless, what the hell can she do to prevent war and what was supposed to be the outcome of this meeting?
@thaispereira73112 сағат бұрын
@@neeharikasingh4229 Well you made a comment saying your opinion and i made one saying mine.
@ramoncarter31216 сағат бұрын
she gave them too young dragons with there riders her young sons
@jurb4176 сағат бұрын
7:13 questions i've been asking myself. i was thinking rhaena, the one she talked to right after that scene, would have claimed seasmoke. and she's giving dragons to someone in pentos for an army in exchange for keeping her children safe as well
@jimjimcherie6 сағат бұрын
18:24 i had the same reaction, that is not something I wanted to see yesterday.
@jimjimcherie6 сағат бұрын
the girl who brought Ulf the ale, is Dyana, the girl Aegon assaulted in s01. Idk why but I recognized her in a second.
@swetagupta39274 сағат бұрын
And people were saying alicent poisoned her seriously I don't understand alicent hate
@jimjimcherie4 сағат бұрын
@@swetagupta3927 It doesn't make sense, considering Alicent had a soft spot for her because in a way, she did not marry willingly, she was coerced by her father, and I'm pretty certain she did not want to have sex with a man 30 years her senior. So she must have felt something for the girl, considering it was her son doing such an atrocious act. It was a moon tea, so she was not burdened with a baby she did not want (some might say it was so there wasn't a bastard, but more than that, I think it was to protect the girl).
@swetagupta39274 сағат бұрын
@@jimjimcherie but some blacks blindly hate alicent
@jimjimcherie3 сағат бұрын
@@swetagupta3927 I'm team black, I like Alicent. A lot of Greens hate Rhaenyra. The whole discourse is ridiculous specially when people on both sides try to include morality when it's a show full of grey characters. I'm team black just because I enjoy the characters on it more LOL.
@jurb4176 сағат бұрын
i HATE that Alicent couldn't even do the bare minimum of accepting the fact that she fucked up at the end. like shit, i know they can't do much about it if it's admitted but that's the least she could've done for her childhood best friend.
@garlantyrell63686 сағат бұрын
I think she does realize she f*cked up but it’s too late for her to yield or give an apology now.
@harsh_19105 сағат бұрын
She literally said it's too late idk what that if not admission
@hawks71112 сағат бұрын
are you stupid?
@icechoc6 сағат бұрын
The dragons belong to her sons. Tyraxes is Joffrey's dragon and Stormcloud is Aegon the Younger (Rhaenyra and Daemon's eldest son) dragon.
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so true, if alicent never misunderstood, rhaenyra would be dead so really everyone should be thanking her :DD
Im not really sure what Rhaenyra is expecting Alicent to do, go tell Aegon "Sorry honey but i misinterpreted what your dad said so can you go ahead and set aside your crown and kneel to the lady responsible for the decapitation of your 4 year old son"? Criston Cole's twin plan is actually genius in comparison, as it actually had a non 0% chance of success.
you should do some colabs for sure
How in the world did he think that old ass man was Alicents youngest son? 😭
Cant stop a fire that big back them a few people ain’t worth it
This episode had so many great sequences! -The almost horror vibe scene with Daemon creeping around Harrenhal at night during a downpour was so awesome! -Rhaena catching a glimpse of Criston Cole and Gwayne and trying to get them before they got to the cover of the woods (she should have instantly had her dragon breath fire she would have got them! Or burned a circle around them trapping them). -How many bodies they made it look like were there as the aftermath of just a single battle that wasn’t even 100% official battles yet. -Aemond showin dong at the brothel lol and walking away with that awesome blue eye. -And Rhaenys had so many incredible moments this episode!
Damian was always a rat
Wait some of yall are team green?
Alicent realizes she made a mistake but refuses to change things. All that praying in the end means nothing if you don’t make things right.
‘The song of Ice and Fire’ prophecy is highly confidential and only passed on to heirs! Rhaenyra would not gain anything from sharing this with Alicent, she would actually weaken her own position as the one and only valid heir and betray her father’s trust. This info is so explosive that it cannot be spread (even less so to an enemy).
I still can't believe Raena is such an environmentalist! Not scorching that forest along with Crispin Cole gave me the same vibe as Raenys not scorching the whole green team at the end of season 1.
I meant Baela*... The names are sure confusing
Buen corte de pelo.
There are only 8 episodes this season
I feel so bad for rhaenrya because for like a second you can see her actually doubt the word of viserys until alicent mentions the prince who was promised
Only Aemond can somehow make the walk of shame fully nude out of a brothel look badass lol that was the last thing I was expecting
Daeron is supposed to be the same age as Jace.
Criston Cannon Cole Criston Carter Cole Seven Hells!
even I was surprised with the fast-paced events, but I must admire director Geeta Patel and her execution! This IS a pivotal moment for the show and the director nailed it in the execution and I am so glad that we got this scene. Geeta Patel is a master director indeed ❤ also, I love how she incorporates weather impact in the scenes ☁️ (she was the one who directed masterpiece S01E08)
Even House of the Dragon joined in on the "hawk TUAAh Spit on that thang"
16:20 Littlefinger was master of coin. Varys was the spymaster/master of whispers. Just because you have spies doesnt make you a spymaster. Everyone has spies.
Well if you are the head of multiple spies you're considered a spymaster so baelish definitely qualifies
"Always coming and going, aren't you? And I have to clean up afterwards." - Daemon calls Baelon "Heir For A Day", which further solidifies his heartless reputation and was the push Viserys needed to banish him. Because of this, Rhaenyra is finally named heir and although she is happy at first, the hardships catch up to her and she doesn't have anyone for support. - Daemon isn't around and is occupying Dragonstone, which is supposed to be her castle as heir. Even then, Daemon disrespects her deceased brother and she has to be the one to fly to him. After getting the egg and cleaning up for the Crown, Rhaenyra deals with the *small* consequences of disobeying her father (even though any other way to retrieve it would've been bloody). - Her father marries her best friend, which makes her rightfully angry and even more alone. Daemon has fucked off to the Stepstones and she has no one. When Daemon returns, he hatches a plan to get them married but backs out at the last minute. Rhaenyra's honor is still compromised after being seen in the brothel. Daemon touching her and then running away results to her sleeping with Criston. This makes Viserys push for her marriage even harder. Although she didn't help by lying, this sequence of events started by Daemon also removes Alicent from her side. Daemon is once again banished, leaving her to deal with it alone. - Once she has accepted her marriage, Daemon disobeys Viserys and comes back at her wedding celebration. She dares him to take her and marry her in Dragonstone, but chaos ensues and once again, he runs away and leaves her. - Without Daemon around, Rhaenyra finds love in another. She ends up having bastards with Harwin - but imagine how easy this would all be if her sons were Daemon's bastards instead. There's an element of being pressured by her position as heir to produce children and you can also say that she chose to do it with Harwin out of love, but I don't believe she would have chosen Harwin over Daemon if he were there. - Now they are married. She trusted Daemon enough to ask him to be her consort and after years of trust and as a grieving mother, she asks him for Aemond Targaryen. Intentional or just a mistake, the death of Jaehaerys instead (a child, rather than Aemond AKA an adult already known for kinslaying) puts her claim in danger and ruins her name. They fight. He leaves. - Rhaenyra's "You left me." in Season 1 and her conversation with Mysaria in Episode 2 made all this clear. "He's gone. A week or forever, I do not know." "He does do that, doesn't he?" --- In Harrenhal, Daemon sees young Rhaenyra because adult Rhaenyra has made her low opinion of him clear. He seeks comfort in the person who put him on a pedestal, the naive princess. But instead of comfort, he sees that she is angry. Even young Rhaenyra is angry, because all his mistakes with her started when she was young. She was sewing Jaehaerys' head, aka "cleaning up". Now, this is from the showrunner's perspective: He also sees young Rhaenyra because the mistrust and unresolved issues go both ways. Young Rhaenyra was the one who "stole" his throne. He is the King Consort now, but he still feels like it was taken from him and the root of his issues lie with young Rhaenyra being named heir. That scene was him facing his issues and his mistakes. Harrenhal is cursed, as they say and Daemon is just starting to experience it.
It’s interesting that young Rhaenyra stole his throne. Cause even if Rhaenyra wasn’t named heir, Viserys would still have married someone else and had children. I don’t see how Daemon would’ve ever genuinely thought he would be king one day. He’s just the younger brother. But hey who knows.
Daeron is supposed to be jace’s age I think
I think they are giving joffrey to the vale as a ward with his dragon. Thats what they ment by wanting a dragon in the vale.
lol did the boys all go get a haircut together
It’s been officially confirmed that the eggs that Rhaenyra sent to Essos are Danys eggs!
No they’re not Daenerys’ eggs. Dany’s eggs were laid by Dreamfyre (Helaena’s dragon) about 50 or so years before this. At the time Dreamfyre was ridden by another Targaryen named Rhaena, and her girlfriend Elissa Farman stole three eggs from her and sold them across the Narrow Sea to buy a ship. We were told when Fire and Blood came out that we would learn where her eggs came from in that book. They can literally only be Dreamfyre’s
They already confirmed that they changed that and that is danys eggs
They changed that for whatever reason they director confirmed it🙄🤣
@@thaispereira7311 Well Spoilers… Why is one blue then? We know she hatches one of the four eggs and that one is pink. If the other three are Dany’s then why are the colors wrong
I know he's doing it for his own gain, but Larys actually did some good this episode. Good on him
why are your reactions so wooden 💀
Hmmm, why does Alys Rivers remind me of Kinwara, the High Priestess of the Red Temple of Volantis? Not to mention that her words to Damon are exactly what Melissandre told Varys. Coincidence? Also, seeing that typically dress on Rhaenyra and one special septa Unella pops in my mind (yeah, still traumatized overhere). And those eggs…. Anyway, many similarities with GOT in this episode.
Who didn't they call Daeron this episode 😂😂😂
Barber had a sale. Alicent knows that she misunderstood but doesn't care anymore...they have the "power"
i doubt Ulf is Baelon’s bastard. Baelon loved Alyssa way too much
He could be Aemon's though
As far as i know he was telling the thruth
I hated ‘Nettles’ in the books and she spoke one line in the show and I swear I screamed “burn her!!” Some people will love her too.
When did Nettles show up? The girl at Harrenhall is Alys Rivers
Nettles is not in the show
Asking if Corlys has a dragon is crazy
27:50 nah, they couldnt have ended the war. Aegon is still "King" and he makes the final decision not to mention all the people on both councils doing shit that neither of the King/Queen wanted.
26:20 alicent knows she fucked up. she just refusing to accept it...
About the visions, I want to bring attention to one nobody talks about. One specific vision weve been told of could have avoided this whole conflict, if it had been followed. And im thankful the person who saw the vision did not follow through on it, because then we would not get this amazing story :D Everyone seems to fully believe in Aegon's prophecy, which came to him in a dream and told him to go and conquer Westeros because the world would need Targaryens and their dragons to survive the long night. People also point out how you need to listen to Helena when she speaks, because she is a "Dreamer" and have visions about a lot of stuff. Like when she says Aemond would get a dragon but loose an eye. Viserys spoke of "dreamers" in the Targaryen line, people who could see visions of the future. In the books there are many prophecies mentioned within the bloodline of the Targaryens, like Dany receiving a vision showing the red wedding as an example, which was cut from GoT. The reason I bring this up is that everyone seems to forget about the vision that we have been told of twice in season 1 of House of the Dragon. The vision I talk about is Viserys' vision. Nobody in the fandom talks about it at all, at least not from what ive been able to find. Which kind shocks me. The song of ice and fire is brought up both in the world HotD and by fans. Why is this? (Aside from fans knowing its true thanks to GoT, and the charecters in HotD having a dagger with the song of fire and ice written down on it) I think it might be because Viserys did not do as the vision told him, unlike Aegon the conqueror. Aegon went and conquered westeros because his visions showed him it needed to be done. Viserys' vision told him he needed to put a son on the throne because all the dragons would roar as one when he did this. In other words, there would be no civil war between dragons if he had named Aegon heir. We are told this in episode 1 and episode 3 of season 1 by Visyrys himself. The vision is saying how civil war would be avoided, and the dragons saved, so there would be plenty for when the long night arrives. A civil war will result in the beginning of the end of dragons, and we know this because they aren't around anymore in GoT, not until Dany wakes 3 of them anyway. Just think about how difrently thing could have gone had Viserys followed his vision isntead of his heart. Viserys wanted so badly to believe he was a "dreamer", like we Helena and Aegon the conqueror is/where. And he actually was, the only difference between him and the Conqueror was that he did not follow through on what his vision told him to do. This was because of the grief he felt at the loss of his beloved wife, who died in his pursuit for a male heir. This made him question the vision, and ultimately let him to not name Aegon as the heir, despite the vision. I kind of feel like im the only one who remembers this vision, so just wanted to throw it into the discussion. As i feel like its an important piece that has been overlooked by fans:) (Sorry for any gramatical mistakes, english is not my first language)
Telling Alicent about the whole prophecy would be the dumbest thing ever, do you guys really believe Aegon would just give up the throne if his mother told him about the dagger and the prophecy? He would use that in his favor, Rhaenyra would lost the only thing she has in advantage to defend her claim, to defend that her father always chose her. She was wise to just plant the seed of doubt in Alicent without telling her of everything. She was wise to not give this to the enemy.
Yes those are Dany’s eggs.
yhall dont get it Allicent has no power now to stop the war she doesnt have Otto as hand to back her she cannot stop Aegon and Aeomond and Cristin cole now
14:16 that's why she's sending her children and rhaena too. they're all dragon seeds and have the potential to fly on the dragons. plus dragons even when small are still not a menace to fuck with.
There is no way this all would not have happened had Alicent mis interpreted It was going to happen anyway
This sept scene is one of the most idiotic scenes I have ever seen. Straight up GoT S8 goofy ass level writing.
Rhaenyra wants to avoid the worst as much as possible because is what her father thought her a ruler should do. She knows that a war with dragons will devasteted the whole realm. Yes it was a risk plan but Rhaenyra had to make a last desperate try to consiliate. Alicent would be the most safe for her to do this. The scene was necessary for alicent to know that she missunderstood and Rahenyra to be even more sure of her claim to the throne and now to go to war simce she did everything she could to prevent it
@@thaispereira7311 Don't need a dissertation over it bro. This scene was shit and made no sense. You like it, well and good. For me, it was goofy ass. What kind of stuff are they smoking in that writer's room that the head of Black faction, the heir to throne, goes to enemy territory with just one guard where she could be killed in one second? Also, few scenes before, Rhaenys was talking that it is "men around Alicent" who want war and bloodshed. Well, if weepy whiny Alicent is so powerless, what the hell can she do to prevent war and what was supposed to be the outcome of this meeting?
@@neeharikasingh4229 Well you made a comment saying your opinion and i made one saying mine.
she gave them too young dragons with there riders her young sons
7:13 questions i've been asking myself. i was thinking rhaena, the one she talked to right after that scene, would have claimed seasmoke. and she's giving dragons to someone in pentos for an army in exchange for keeping her children safe as well
18:24 i had the same reaction, that is not something I wanted to see yesterday.
the girl who brought Ulf the ale, is Dyana, the girl Aegon assaulted in s01. Idk why but I recognized her in a second.
And people were saying alicent poisoned her seriously I don't understand alicent hate
@@swetagupta3927 It doesn't make sense, considering Alicent had a soft spot for her because in a way, she did not marry willingly, she was coerced by her father, and I'm pretty certain she did not want to have sex with a man 30 years her senior. So she must have felt something for the girl, considering it was her son doing such an atrocious act. It was a moon tea, so she was not burdened with a baby she did not want (some might say it was so there wasn't a bastard, but more than that, I think it was to protect the girl).
@@jimjimcherie but some blacks blindly hate alicent
@@swetagupta3927 I'm team black, I like Alicent. A lot of Greens hate Rhaenyra. The whole discourse is ridiculous specially when people on both sides try to include morality when it's a show full of grey characters. I'm team black just because I enjoy the characters on it more LOL.
i HATE that Alicent couldn't even do the bare minimum of accepting the fact that she fucked up at the end. like shit, i know they can't do much about it if it's admitted but that's the least she could've done for her childhood best friend.
I think she does realize she f*cked up but it’s too late for her to yield or give an apology now.
She literally said it's too late idk what that if not admission
are you stupid?
The dragons belong to her sons. Tyraxes is Joffrey's dragon and Stormcloud is Aegon the Younger (Rhaenyra and Daemon's eldest son) dragon.