Hello @Philip M , before you dismount everything your car was able to start, please? or you just got the ignition? thanks in advance for your answer.
@philipsgarageАй бұрын
Hello Vira, that is correct everything was able to start. The main issue was alot of abnormal electrical issues and codes that would come up on the scanner. Let me know if you have any other questions, take care.
@vira2264Ай бұрын
@@philipsgarage Thanks a lot for your reply! I think my issue is caused by another component... when I turn the key I have the ignition but no crank and on the dashboard it keep beeping and say 'drive to workshop without changing gear" + SRS. Did you had something similar; please?
@philipsgarageАй бұрын
@@vira2264 I have not ran into that before. I would recommend maybe checking your battery voltage, if you have a jump pack maybe try to start it with that connected. Its possible you don't have enough battery to crank the car. Could be a bad battery or that your alternator wasn't charging it enough the last time it was driven. If your battery is still good I would recommend pulling codes off the car with a scanner if you have one. If not icarsoft is a good scanner for about $100 which can go into specific modules on the car to see whats being reported and do can the live data. Could also possibly be the starter in your case.
@sandeeppatel79985 ай бұрын
Hello I hear water sloshing in the rear some where when I drive. I opened the trunk where the spare wheel was and saw there is some water there. I opened the drains to get it out in the spare wheel section. I still here the water sloshing when I drive. Where can it be? Today I put some water in the sunroof and to my findings I see water coming down from the headliner on the driver side where the seatbelt upper Pillar B I think its called. Not where you actually lock it but where you pull from. so it looks like an issue with the sunroof rear hose. Any idea where the water is? I hear the sloshing and I want to get it out of my car for now then try to open up the headliner. Any assistance would be appreciated it.
@tb51756 ай бұрын
06’ ML500 already replaced SAM a few years ago, whole area was wet, under tire, etc. Now I am noticing intermittent electrical issues like turn signal won’t work after replacing bulb. Original owner and only has 77K miles so I need to track down where water is coming from b/4 another rear SAM is destroyed. Mercedes really put that rear SAM in a terrible place. I have a sunroof (don’t use it) but good to know and will check to see if water drains by that back tire or plugged. I think it’s the rear tail seals. Never had issues until I didn’t have a garage to store it in. I avoid car washes at all costs and high pressure washing as it has thrown codes/electrical issues. BTW how many hours do you think you have into this job sealing up your baby?
@stevekuebler51016 ай бұрын
I’m considering blacking out my emblems. My biggest concern is how will hold up thru car washes. How has yours held up?
@philipsgarage6 ай бұрын
It will hold up perfectly fine. I've never had any issues with it peeling off as long as you do enough layers. Its very durable.
@anthonyi17187 ай бұрын
A friend of mine works for mercedes. He said the tail light gaskets go bad on the ML’s. I had already gone thru a hydraulic tailgate pump and I was lucky enough to get to my rear Sam after a heavy rain storm. Had some discoloration on the motherboard but was able to clean it up. I shifted the Sam from laying flat to an upright position and wrapped it in some plastic. Very frustrating that mercedes never did a recall on this. I bought my 08 ML in 2010. If it was not for videos like this or forums we would be paying a lot more. Mercedes dropped the ball on this.
@rellohz27558 ай бұрын
Question is it car wash safe after 24 hours of drying ?
@philipsgarage8 ай бұрын
Yes, it drys very quickly
@rellohz27558 ай бұрын
@@philipsgarage thanks , I was using vinyl wrap spray and the overspray was frustrating and hard to get off. I’m hoping this stuff works better and maybe can remove some of the old vinyl wet wrap to come off of the paint if I cover it with this and then rub it off. Hopefully 😂
@david307711 ай бұрын
I just used this hyper dip in piano black it’s not glossy at all it’s like a Matt finish.
@guniseran11 ай бұрын
No sunroof, no problems and more headroom
@blerimaliti4969 Жыл бұрын
Will this happen if the sunroof stays closed, because it’s my second SAM that i am replacing, raining in the summer holy shit. 😤
@philipsgarage Жыл бұрын
The leaves won't be coming in if the sunroof is always closed. I assumed a previous owner must have driven down roads where the leaves would fall in. But the seal around the sunroof could have shrunk from the heat and a little water could be coming in. It might be a good idea to spray the sunroof with a hose and then inspect to see if there is any water getting past the seal. You can do the same on the rear tailgate, there should be no water coming in at all if its properly sealed. I hope that helps, thanks for watching!
@Bond3594 Жыл бұрын
thank you very much for the info. I knew it is a common problem but owner just got notice when the ecu modules got malfunction or fried. the modules are at two major locations, one at battery compartment, the other one is at right back trunk. 😮😮😮😮😮 I am one of those owners and spent over thousands to fix the problem~!😢😢😢😢
@paulm9400 Жыл бұрын
Looks like most common problem. I have same issue on my ML550. Thanks for video
@Youchoob1 Жыл бұрын
An interesting video I found here while looking for help with my W164 leak. After removing the wheel, mudflap and wheel arch liner I could find absolutely no trace of my sunroof drain in that area. On my car, which is rhd, I removed the rear right inner panel in the rear luggage compartment and could clearly see the hose from the sunroof in there. After unclipping the fuse box for some more wiggle room, I extracted the hose from its rubber holder with relative ease. On my car there was no need to remove the wheel etc and I figure many others might find the same thing hence my message. Keep up the good work..
@beterbey Жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for sharing. I don't understand how that big leaves get in to the drain. Is it during driving as the sunroof is open?
@philipsgarage Жыл бұрын
It happened from a previous owner. Its possible they may have been parking sometimes with the sunroof open underneath a tree, or when they drove and leaves fell in there.
@beterbey Жыл бұрын
@@philipsgarage Thanks 🙂
@paigers750 Жыл бұрын
I got a 2007 ml350 in feb and last week we’ve had heavy rain for several days& I park outside without cover. I didn’t really give credence to the fact my sunroof seal was sticking out during the rain & I haven’t put it back in place correctly. my 1st rain drive since getting this car, about 55minutes into my rainy drive my instrument cluster started throwing warnings, my wipers stayed on and my radio stayed illuminated but wouldn’t play and switches wouldn’t work. My first thought was it was water related & I couldn’t shake this feeling, water was coming in, somewhere. This has been going on after starting my drives ever since, I knew it had to be water related, but couldn’t figure out until today when I found water under my spare tire well and everything in my car seemed moist but not quite damp. Now I have a better starting place. Thank you!!
@gregorykozar3795 Жыл бұрын
Changed my Silver wheels to piano black on my 2022 Chevy Colorado looks incredible
@natprimus8379 Жыл бұрын
This has been an ongoing issue for my R320 Bluetec, which I understand is the same chassis as the ML. Thanks for the video. Over $2000 in water damage repairs, so now I have a place to start.
@philipsgarage Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, I hope you are able to get it sorted out!
@Maplecook Жыл бұрын
Came over from Humphrey Yang's channel. Cheers, fellow JDM lover! haha! =)
@shannonflood2303 Жыл бұрын
What also happens the black caulking that seals the collector tray to rails fails you need to drop headliner and drop rails down so you can remove clean and re install collector trays with new silicone on both tray and rail mating surfaces inspect hose for cracks if ok remove hoses 4 to be exact and apply silicone around inlet and re connect the let dry run water inside reconnected trays this will fix leaks for good sometimes the sam cant be cleaned it cost me 1200 canadian for new one .so sealing tray to rails very important
@keepitsimple7042 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing and saving us a lot of time to find the leaking spot 🙏
@KitKat-wd8vq Жыл бұрын
We have water sloshing around and won't drain. No one seems to know what to do.
@philipsgarage Жыл бұрын
Thats definitely not good, you need to get that water vacuumed out asap. Theres definitely water coming in from some place you need to address. I posted another video after this that can cover some possibilities. To try to track it down, you may have someone get inside the car with that panel removed and a flashlight. Get a water hose with waterfall attachment or something gentle and spray that area from different angles. . Thats the best way to see if its coming in from a specific spot, it may take some trial and error but its necessary. I can try to help if you have more questions on it.
@Leesadventure Жыл бұрын
So it peels off the paint so easy. What stops it coming off the lettering etc?
@Amor1990 Жыл бұрын
That looks so cheap
@bobpawlak8530 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2010 ML 350 with the exact issue. Drains are definitely not clogged yet water is seeping down from sunroof drain. How hard was it to take down the headliner?? Really wish you could make a video showing that as I need to take it apart . Thanks so much as your video was right on point. Mine is dripping in exact location as yours!!
@tobymofield65972 жыл бұрын
For the love of Peter Paul and Mary... Don't do Black wheels. Impossible to keep them clean!. What good is it to have a clean ride if the wheels stay dirty all the time. I'm gonna soon ditch my black wheels ASAP. Going to go back to polished aluminum. FANTASTIC job on the emblems, Great video.....Good job.
@philipsgarage2 жыл бұрын
I actually agree with the comment about black wheels. I recently changed my wheels on my GS from black to silver/polished ones that I ceramic coated. Always looks so clean on them, much easier to keep clean. I guess it was a phase where I wanted black wheels on all of my cars.
@ugochukwuebu82762 жыл бұрын
This is a very common problem with the W164. Folks just don't have any idea where the problem is coming from. The autotechs just tell you it's from water but no one follows all the plumbing and information about that is sparse. Thanks for this video. I have basically changed 3 SAMs in 2 years; the vehicle was parked half of the time because of the same issues. Mine was always parked under a tree, so makes a lot of sense.
@Draconius10008 ай бұрын
no one wants to fix that problem because its just expensive Dealer thought its a side glass, but i checked ml histories, they begin noticing and recall that problem after 2009 model But look like ML has a Defect by bad rubber glasses, i think the cheapest way to fix that problem, a new sunroof rubber
@redciroc12112 жыл бұрын
Instead of warming the cans up in warm water why don't you just pop them in the microwave or oven for a few minutes 🤔
@Leesadventure Жыл бұрын
Try the microwave and see how that goes 🤣🤣🤣
@redciroc1211 Жыл бұрын
@@Leesadventure 😆
@KRBasch2 жыл бұрын
Very informative and highly appreciated!
@philipsgarage2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@scotthart62372 жыл бұрын
I’m apparently building a new 2007 GL450… I have a ton of leaks. I’m trying to figure out that silly moonroof/panoramic window in the rear. Haven’t dropped headliner yet, but wanted to get a new seal.
@r9cheverny4332 жыл бұрын
Omg Mercedes is really garbage.....
@kenna.93682 жыл бұрын
So you think this looks better than the blacked out factory letters? What your opinion on hyperdip vs factory blacked out emblems?
@SWACBUZZ2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to do my Ford Edge grill.
@creativitybycarilyn66342 жыл бұрын
I have a 2012 ML350. My first sign of trouble was condensation in the car and a wet seatbelt. I thought possibly I left the window down. After multiple days of non-stop heavy rain, the car was stalling and noticed water marks on the headliner. After dismantling the lower back area, we found a pool of water under the spare tire area. Water also went into the rear side panels near the tail lights. We dried the car out and it is running again, but we have to repair the leak before it starts raining again. This video is very helpful so we now know what take apart next. Turns out this is a common issue not just with Mercedes...our GMC Terrain is leaking too. TFS
@philipsgarage2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that I know it’s frustrating. I hope you get it all sorted.
@sandeeppatel79985 ай бұрын
I hear a slosh of water in the rear somewhere. I do not know where it is? I check the trunk there was some water which I drained but when I hit the gas I could here a ton of water somewhere in the rear. Today I put a cup of water on the sunroof for the rear and saw that water was leaking from the seatbelt Pillar B I am assuming its called. Any idea where the water I can drain it out or where it is? Trunk and rear panel near the spare only had little water.
@creativitybycarilyn66345 ай бұрын
@@sandeeppatel7998 Look under the spare tire. You will need a wet dry vac likely and might need to open everything up and put heaters or blowers to get it thoroughly dried. You will want to get the sun roof channels completely cleaned out because the get clogged causing water to overflow and go through channels in the car to the trunk where the wiring is under the spare tire. When you take the car to places other than the dealer for service, they do not clean out the channels in the sunroof. There are holes with rubber plugs under the car that can be unplugged to let trapped water out. If you don't get the water out, it can short out your wiring and cause the car to stop running.
@sandeeppatel79985 ай бұрын
@creativitybycarilyn6634 thank you very much for the information. Very informative. I have checked under the spare tire there was little water. I unplugged it and water went out. The rear panel where the rear lights are had little to no water there on boths sides. Wonder where the remaining water is as there is a bug sloshing sound still. The front seats and rear seats carpets are not wet. I do see water coming out from the rockers. I don't know if that is normal. Wonder if water is stuck there. Any plug with the rockers? Any other place water can be? I will get the sun roof channels cleaned.
@creativitybycarilyn66345 ай бұрын
@@sandeeppatel7998 I remember my husband taking the car out after unplugging the holes and stepping on the breaks repeatedly to help the water come sloshing out. He also parked it so the car would be sloped with the front higher than the back to help it drain out. We got ours dried out really good and it was running great again, but I no longer wanted the car because the wires had gotten wet. Many cars with sunroofs have the same problem. They are not properly maintained after warranty is up, they get clogged and cause water to come into the car, but the Mercedes ML 350 flaw is that the water goes where the wiring is. Our GMC Terrain also leaked water inside during the same heavy storm, but only some carpet got wet. This was an expensive lesson. We sold both of our cars and bought new ones at ridiculous prices during the pandemic. Lube places do not do thorough maintenance and getting a full service from the dealer or someone who knows your model well and what the dealer does for good prevention is prudent.
@bracko90812 жыл бұрын
Great Video! Very helpful!! Had water entering from both the left and right. I read that mercedes made tailght gaskets thar had adhesive on the wrong side. This was true with both of my tailights. The old gasket seals had adhesive facing the tailight and not the vehicle body. The new seals I bought had the correct adhesive placement. It's interesting that Mercedes never recalled these seals. Can cause damage to the rear sam, liftgate pump, and tailght electrical connections.
@philipsgarage2 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped. Its pretty crazy to see how many fellow owners actually have so many issues with the water entry on these cars. I agree they should have probably recalled them. I'm sure some people have taken the cars to the dealers to fix all the issues the water has caused and had to pay alot if they aren't familiar with what to look for.
@bracko90812 жыл бұрын
@@philipsgarage I think I read that they had recalls on 2009 but not in previous years. They know the problem began before 09'. I believe total damage for me includes liftgate pump and rear sam. That's got to be at $3k+ in costs! I think someone from mbworld forum recommended your video to me. I haven't done the alcohol soak yet, but will try it cuz I don't know how to solder. Thanks soo much for replying back! Will let you know if the alcohol soak works for me too!!
@meetjames39142 жыл бұрын
90% chance your sunroof drains are clogged so water is backing up and leaking from that connection in the hose… I would snake and clean them out, best to do it from the bottom inside the wheel well and it will probably fix your car. This is common on a lot of cars and people just don’t know it, there are a bunch of videos online how to clean our sunroof drains.
@philipsgarage2 жыл бұрын
Correct, my other video shows the issue.
@shannonflood2303 Жыл бұрын
Drains not clogged collector tray that meets the drain rails seal fails look like black silicone
@meetjames39142 жыл бұрын
90% chance your sunroof drained are clogged so water is backing up and leaking from that connection in the hose… I would snake and clean them out and it will probably fix your car. This is common on a lot of cars and people just don’t know it.
@shiftyeyesnv83522 жыл бұрын
Could have saved some tape with some newspapers but overall it looks good
@Spamoonfire2 жыл бұрын
Hello! I don't know if you fixed your water leak issues, mine was coming from behind the plastic in the trunks, (00:06) there's rubber cap behind it that dried up over time and water was coming in and leaking on the SAM Card.
@philipsgarage2 жыл бұрын
I got it sorted out, thanks for asking and watching the video. I guess theres alot of ways water can enter these cars, great tip.
@ManwantSinghMultani2 жыл бұрын
Chrome Delete 🤞⚡️
@AngusMcLean32 жыл бұрын
oh man. Perfect. similar issues on my 350 and had no idea where all the water was coming form. rock on
@glenmathew353 жыл бұрын
How did you end up fixing the problem. I'm having the exact same issue. Did you manage to stop the leak using the 3m weather strip
@philipsgarage3 жыл бұрын
I actually have a followup video on the channel that covers alot of it. The leak can vary in cause from each car. But you really need to try to identify where the leak is coming in from visually. I kept having to trace the water further up until I was able to trace it to the sunroof. Let me know if you have any questions after checking that video out, I can try my best to help. I have not had any issues since.
@officialnofriendo3 жыл бұрын
What is the dry times in between each coat? And how has it held up going thru car wash?
@philipsgarage3 жыл бұрын
10-15 minutes should be sufficient
@officialnofriendo3 жыл бұрын
@@philipsgarage awesome, thanks
@douglascampbell83243 жыл бұрын
How long does this product hold up and will it peel on car washes.
@philipsgarage3 жыл бұрын
It will last several years if applied properly and enough coats. It won't come off in any way in car washes.
@naughtysauce43233 жыл бұрын
Not as glossy as I expected
@JennyCaldas05063 жыл бұрын
I was doing it today. 90 degrees out. I did light coats and went a little heavier after. It has rust looking areas on the letters. Should I use sand paper with water to get it down. Frustrated. Using piano black.
@prclaudiojunior20123 жыл бұрын
My GL 450 the rear part of the sunroof is leaking, rear drain are clogged looks like. So I have to take down the whole headliner like this? OMG... The guy who designed this did a really Great job right??? Great way to access the rear drain, genius!!!!!
@andriibordundevcom29345 ай бұрын
Did you fix the issue with your GL 450? Was it the drain tube or just the lining rivets? Got the same issue.
@jaredlevy71933 жыл бұрын
Does that tube tuck behind the metal or with the headliner down, would I be able to see where a leak may exist? unclogged the drain successfully, but still getting a small leak in the rear right panel.... or is it likely its just coming down from the headliner?
@philipsgarage3 жыл бұрын
I didn't really need to move the tube too much in the position it was in. It should be above the headliner and then route on the side in the rear. If you have the panels removed its a good idea if someone can go in the car and look at the areas as you spray, from the sunroof or rear. Then afterwards see which area is wet and keep following it higher. I initially thought it was from a rear seal but the water was showing alot higher in the headliner showing me the water leak was coming in from a further spot up. Be sure to cover the SAM too during tests so you dont get any further water on it. It can be a little tricky.
@florentinamirela8403 жыл бұрын
Mercedes?!Wtf were thay thinking?
@philipsgarage3 жыл бұрын
Definitely a interesting design but not too uncommon with sunroofs. I had the backseat of a E60 BMW I owned before flood due to the sunroof drains and seals. I'd prefer a car without sunroofs after the stuff I've had to deal with on them.
@florentinamirela8403 жыл бұрын
Is it common issue with this car? Is it widely spread?I am going to buy this model w164 but a diesel ?Is it reliable?
@philipsgarage3 жыл бұрын
The leaking rear SAM issue is common with the W164. The leaking sunroof may not be as common but its something to look out for. I'm not too familiar with the diesel version. I would just look out to see if it has any previous history and see what service records it may have. I haven't really had any electrical issues since sorting this out.
@TheSmokenBong3 жыл бұрын
Looks nice af man I would like to see the wheels done
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Hello @Philip M , before you dismount everything your car was able to start, please? or you just got the ignition? thanks in advance for your answer.
Hello Vira, that is correct everything was able to start. The main issue was alot of abnormal electrical issues and codes that would come up on the scanner. Let me know if you have any other questions, take care.
@@philipsgarage Thanks a lot for your reply! I think my issue is caused by another component... when I turn the key I have the ignition but no crank and on the dashboard it keep beeping and say 'drive to workshop without changing gear" + SRS. Did you had something similar; please?
@@vira2264 I have not ran into that before. I would recommend maybe checking your battery voltage, if you have a jump pack maybe try to start it with that connected. Its possible you don't have enough battery to crank the car. Could be a bad battery or that your alternator wasn't charging it enough the last time it was driven. If your battery is still good I would recommend pulling codes off the car with a scanner if you have one. If not icarsoft is a good scanner for about $100 which can go into specific modules on the car to see whats being reported and do can the live data. Could also possibly be the starter in your case.
Hello I hear water sloshing in the rear some where when I drive. I opened the trunk where the spare wheel was and saw there is some water there. I opened the drains to get it out in the spare wheel section. I still here the water sloshing when I drive. Where can it be? Today I put some water in the sunroof and to my findings I see water coming down from the headliner on the driver side where the seatbelt upper Pillar B I think its called. Not where you actually lock it but where you pull from. so it looks like an issue with the sunroof rear hose. Any idea where the water is? I hear the sloshing and I want to get it out of my car for now then try to open up the headliner. Any assistance would be appreciated it.
06’ ML500 already replaced SAM a few years ago, whole area was wet, under tire, etc. Now I am noticing intermittent electrical issues like turn signal won’t work after replacing bulb. Original owner and only has 77K miles so I need to track down where water is coming from b/4 another rear SAM is destroyed. Mercedes really put that rear SAM in a terrible place. I have a sunroof (don’t use it) but good to know and will check to see if water drains by that back tire or plugged. I think it’s the rear tail seals. Never had issues until I didn’t have a garage to store it in. I avoid car washes at all costs and high pressure washing as it has thrown codes/electrical issues. BTW how many hours do you think you have into this job sealing up your baby?
I’m considering blacking out my emblems. My biggest concern is how will hold up thru car washes. How has yours held up?
It will hold up perfectly fine. I've never had any issues with it peeling off as long as you do enough layers. Its very durable.
A friend of mine works for mercedes. He said the tail light gaskets go bad on the ML’s. I had already gone thru a hydraulic tailgate pump and I was lucky enough to get to my rear Sam after a heavy rain storm. Had some discoloration on the motherboard but was able to clean it up. I shifted the Sam from laying flat to an upright position and wrapped it in some plastic. Very frustrating that mercedes never did a recall on this. I bought my 08 ML in 2010. If it was not for videos like this or forums we would be paying a lot more. Mercedes dropped the ball on this.
Question is it car wash safe after 24 hours of drying ?
Yes, it drys very quickly
@@philipsgarage thanks , I was using vinyl wrap spray and the overspray was frustrating and hard to get off. I’m hoping this stuff works better and maybe can remove some of the old vinyl wet wrap to come off of the paint if I cover it with this and then rub it off. Hopefully 😂
I just used this hyper dip in piano black it’s not glossy at all it’s like a Matt finish.
No sunroof, no problems and more headroom
Will this happen if the sunroof stays closed, because it’s my second SAM that i am replacing, raining in the summer holy shit. 😤
The leaves won't be coming in if the sunroof is always closed. I assumed a previous owner must have driven down roads where the leaves would fall in. But the seal around the sunroof could have shrunk from the heat and a little water could be coming in. It might be a good idea to spray the sunroof with a hose and then inspect to see if there is any water getting past the seal. You can do the same on the rear tailgate, there should be no water coming in at all if its properly sealed. I hope that helps, thanks for watching!
thank you very much for the info. I knew it is a common problem but owner just got notice when the ecu modules got malfunction or fried. the modules are at two major locations, one at battery compartment, the other one is at right back trunk. 😮😮😮😮😮 I am one of those owners and spent over thousands to fix the problem~!😢😢😢😢
Looks like most common problem. I have same issue on my ML550. Thanks for video
An interesting video I found here while looking for help with my W164 leak. After removing the wheel, mudflap and wheel arch liner I could find absolutely no trace of my sunroof drain in that area. On my car, which is rhd, I removed the rear right inner panel in the rear luggage compartment and could clearly see the hose from the sunroof in there. After unclipping the fuse box for some more wiggle room, I extracted the hose from its rubber holder with relative ease. On my car there was no need to remove the wheel etc and I figure many others might find the same thing hence my message. Keep up the good work..
Hi, thanks for sharing. I don't understand how that big leaves get in to the drain. Is it during driving as the sunroof is open?
It happened from a previous owner. Its possible they may have been parking sometimes with the sunroof open underneath a tree, or when they drove and leaves fell in there.
@@philipsgarage Thanks 🙂
I got a 2007 ml350 in feb and last week we’ve had heavy rain for several days& I park outside without cover. I didn’t really give credence to the fact my sunroof seal was sticking out during the rain & I haven’t put it back in place correctly. my 1st rain drive since getting this car, about 55minutes into my rainy drive my instrument cluster started throwing warnings, my wipers stayed on and my radio stayed illuminated but wouldn’t play and switches wouldn’t work. My first thought was it was water related & I couldn’t shake this feeling, water was coming in, somewhere. This has been going on after starting my drives ever since, I knew it had to be water related, but couldn’t figure out until today when I found water under my spare tire well and everything in my car seemed moist but not quite damp. Now I have a better starting place. Thank you!!
Changed my Silver wheels to piano black on my 2022 Chevy Colorado looks incredible
This has been an ongoing issue for my R320 Bluetec, which I understand is the same chassis as the ML. Thanks for the video. Over $2000 in water damage repairs, so now I have a place to start.
Thanks for watching, I hope you are able to get it sorted out!
Came over from Humphrey Yang's channel. Cheers, fellow JDM lover! haha! =)
What also happens the black caulking that seals the collector tray to rails fails you need to drop headliner and drop rails down so you can remove clean and re install collector trays with new silicone on both tray and rail mating surfaces inspect hose for cracks if ok remove hoses 4 to be exact and apply silicone around inlet and re connect the let dry run water inside reconnected trays this will fix leaks for good sometimes the sam cant be cleaned it cost me 1200 canadian for new one .so sealing tray to rails very important
Thanks for sharing and saving us a lot of time to find the leaking spot 🙏
We have water sloshing around and won't drain. No one seems to know what to do.
Thats definitely not good, you need to get that water vacuumed out asap. Theres definitely water coming in from some place you need to address. I posted another video after this that can cover some possibilities. To try to track it down, you may have someone get inside the car with that panel removed and a flashlight. Get a water hose with waterfall attachment or something gentle and spray that area from different angles. . Thats the best way to see if its coming in from a specific spot, it may take some trial and error but its necessary. I can try to help if you have more questions on it.
So it peels off the paint so easy. What stops it coming off the lettering etc?
That looks so cheap
I have a 2010 ML 350 with the exact issue. Drains are definitely not clogged yet water is seeping down from sunroof drain. How hard was it to take down the headliner?? Really wish you could make a video showing that as I need to take it apart . Thanks so much as your video was right on point. Mine is dripping in exact location as yours!!
For the love of Peter Paul and Mary... Don't do Black wheels. Impossible to keep them clean!. What good is it to have a clean ride if the wheels stay dirty all the time. I'm gonna soon ditch my black wheels ASAP. Going to go back to polished aluminum. FANTASTIC job on the emblems, Great video.....Good job.
I actually agree with the comment about black wheels. I recently changed my wheels on my GS from black to silver/polished ones that I ceramic coated. Always looks so clean on them, much easier to keep clean. I guess it was a phase where I wanted black wheels on all of my cars.
This is a very common problem with the W164. Folks just don't have any idea where the problem is coming from. The autotechs just tell you it's from water but no one follows all the plumbing and information about that is sparse. Thanks for this video. I have basically changed 3 SAMs in 2 years; the vehicle was parked half of the time because of the same issues. Mine was always parked under a tree, so makes a lot of sense.
no one wants to fix that problem because its just expensive Dealer thought its a side glass, but i checked ml histories, they begin noticing and recall that problem after 2009 model But look like ML has a Defect by bad rubber glasses, i think the cheapest way to fix that problem, a new sunroof rubber
Instead of warming the cans up in warm water why don't you just pop them in the microwave or oven for a few minutes 🤔
Try the microwave and see how that goes 🤣🤣🤣
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Very informative and highly appreciated!
Thanks for watching!
I’m apparently building a new 2007 GL450… I have a ton of leaks. I’m trying to figure out that silly moonroof/panoramic window in the rear. Haven’t dropped headliner yet, but wanted to get a new seal.
Omg Mercedes is really garbage.....
So you think this looks better than the blacked out factory letters? What your opinion on hyperdip vs factory blacked out emblems?
I'm going to do my Ford Edge grill.
I have a 2012 ML350. My first sign of trouble was condensation in the car and a wet seatbelt. I thought possibly I left the window down. After multiple days of non-stop heavy rain, the car was stalling and noticed water marks on the headliner. After dismantling the lower back area, we found a pool of water under the spare tire area. Water also went into the rear side panels near the tail lights. We dried the car out and it is running again, but we have to repair the leak before it starts raining again. This video is very helpful so we now know what take apart next. Turns out this is a common issue not just with Mercedes...our GMC Terrain is leaking too. TFS
Sorry to hear that I know it’s frustrating. I hope you get it all sorted.
I hear a slosh of water in the rear somewhere. I do not know where it is? I check the trunk there was some water which I drained but when I hit the gas I could here a ton of water somewhere in the rear. Today I put a cup of water on the sunroof for the rear and saw that water was leaking from the seatbelt Pillar B I am assuming its called. Any idea where the water I can drain it out or where it is? Trunk and rear panel near the spare only had little water.
@@sandeeppatel7998 Look under the spare tire. You will need a wet dry vac likely and might need to open everything up and put heaters or blowers to get it thoroughly dried. You will want to get the sun roof channels completely cleaned out because the get clogged causing water to overflow and go through channels in the car to the trunk where the wiring is under the spare tire. When you take the car to places other than the dealer for service, they do not clean out the channels in the sunroof. There are holes with rubber plugs under the car that can be unplugged to let trapped water out. If you don't get the water out, it can short out your wiring and cause the car to stop running.
@creativitybycarilyn6634 thank you very much for the information. Very informative. I have checked under the spare tire there was little water. I unplugged it and water went out. The rear panel where the rear lights are had little to no water there on boths sides. Wonder where the remaining water is as there is a bug sloshing sound still. The front seats and rear seats carpets are not wet. I do see water coming out from the rockers. I don't know if that is normal. Wonder if water is stuck there. Any plug with the rockers? Any other place water can be? I will get the sun roof channels cleaned.
@@sandeeppatel7998 I remember my husband taking the car out after unplugging the holes and stepping on the breaks repeatedly to help the water come sloshing out. He also parked it so the car would be sloped with the front higher than the back to help it drain out. We got ours dried out really good and it was running great again, but I no longer wanted the car because the wires had gotten wet. Many cars with sunroofs have the same problem. They are not properly maintained after warranty is up, they get clogged and cause water to come into the car, but the Mercedes ML 350 flaw is that the water goes where the wiring is. Our GMC Terrain also leaked water inside during the same heavy storm, but only some carpet got wet. This was an expensive lesson. We sold both of our cars and bought new ones at ridiculous prices during the pandemic. Lube places do not do thorough maintenance and getting a full service from the dealer or someone who knows your model well and what the dealer does for good prevention is prudent.
Great Video! Very helpful!! Had water entering from both the left and right. I read that mercedes made tailght gaskets thar had adhesive on the wrong side. This was true with both of my tailights. The old gasket seals had adhesive facing the tailight and not the vehicle body. The new seals I bought had the correct adhesive placement. It's interesting that Mercedes never recalled these seals. Can cause damage to the rear sam, liftgate pump, and tailght electrical connections.
Glad it helped. Its pretty crazy to see how many fellow owners actually have so many issues with the water entry on these cars. I agree they should have probably recalled them. I'm sure some people have taken the cars to the dealers to fix all the issues the water has caused and had to pay alot if they aren't familiar with what to look for.
@@philipsgarage I think I read that they had recalls on 2009 but not in previous years. They know the problem began before 09'. I believe total damage for me includes liftgate pump and rear sam. That's got to be at $3k+ in costs! I think someone from mbworld forum recommended your video to me. I haven't done the alcohol soak yet, but will try it cuz I don't know how to solder. Thanks soo much for replying back! Will let you know if the alcohol soak works for me too!!
90% chance your sunroof drains are clogged so water is backing up and leaking from that connection in the hose… I would snake and clean them out, best to do it from the bottom inside the wheel well and it will probably fix your car. This is common on a lot of cars and people just don’t know it, there are a bunch of videos online how to clean our sunroof drains.
Correct, my other video shows the issue.
Drains not clogged collector tray that meets the drain rails seal fails look like black silicone
90% chance your sunroof drained are clogged so water is backing up and leaking from that connection in the hose… I would snake and clean them out and it will probably fix your car. This is common on a lot of cars and people just don’t know it.
Could have saved some tape with some newspapers but overall it looks good
Hello! I don't know if you fixed your water leak issues, mine was coming from behind the plastic in the trunks, (00:06) there's rubber cap behind it that dried up over time and water was coming in and leaking on the SAM Card.
I got it sorted out, thanks for asking and watching the video. I guess theres alot of ways water can enter these cars, great tip.
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oh man. Perfect. similar issues on my 350 and had no idea where all the water was coming form. rock on
How did you end up fixing the problem. I'm having the exact same issue. Did you manage to stop the leak using the 3m weather strip
I actually have a followup video on the channel that covers alot of it. The leak can vary in cause from each car. But you really need to try to identify where the leak is coming in from visually. I kept having to trace the water further up until I was able to trace it to the sunroof. Let me know if you have any questions after checking that video out, I can try my best to help. I have not had any issues since.
What is the dry times in between each coat? And how has it held up going thru car wash?
10-15 minutes should be sufficient
@@philipsgarage awesome, thanks
How long does this product hold up and will it peel on car washes.
It will last several years if applied properly and enough coats. It won't come off in any way in car washes.
Not as glossy as I expected
I was doing it today. 90 degrees out. I did light coats and went a little heavier after. It has rust looking areas on the letters. Should I use sand paper with water to get it down. Frustrated. Using piano black.
My GL 450 the rear part of the sunroof is leaking, rear drain are clogged looks like. So I have to take down the whole headliner like this? OMG... The guy who designed this did a really Great job right??? Great way to access the rear drain, genius!!!!!
Did you fix the issue with your GL 450? Was it the drain tube or just the lining rivets? Got the same issue.
Does that tube tuck behind the metal or with the headliner down, would I be able to see where a leak may exist? unclogged the drain successfully, but still getting a small leak in the rear right panel.... or is it likely its just coming down from the headliner?
I didn't really need to move the tube too much in the position it was in. It should be above the headliner and then route on the side in the rear. If you have the panels removed its a good idea if someone can go in the car and look at the areas as you spray, from the sunroof or rear. Then afterwards see which area is wet and keep following it higher. I initially thought it was from a rear seal but the water was showing alot higher in the headliner showing me the water leak was coming in from a further spot up. Be sure to cover the SAM too during tests so you dont get any further water on it. It can be a little tricky.
Mercedes?!Wtf were thay thinking?
Definitely a interesting design but not too uncommon with sunroofs. I had the backseat of a E60 BMW I owned before flood due to the sunroof drains and seals. I'd prefer a car without sunroofs after the stuff I've had to deal with on them.
Is it common issue with this car? Is it widely spread?I am going to buy this model w164 but a diesel ?Is it reliable?
The leaking rear SAM issue is common with the W164. The leaking sunroof may not be as common but its something to look out for. I'm not too familiar with the diesel version. I would just look out to see if it has any previous history and see what service records it may have. I haven't really had any electrical issues since sorting this out.
Looks nice af man I would like to see the wheels done
Did you use emerald black or piano black?
This was using the piano black.