Airstream Wanderings is a channel of occasional videos about things that interest me, such as primitive pottery and pottery making and travel in our Airstream trailer. The email is listed but be aware I don't check it often.
4 Potential problems and how to solve it. 1. Air bubbles in clay make sure you'r bottom part of the pot don't have air bubbles. 2. Not enough preheating, longer is better. 3. Moisture in the wood or coal. Make sure your burning material is completely dry. 4. Bad processed or generally low quality clay or grog.
@airstreamwanderings368314 сағат бұрын
Yes, I think preheating and not enough drying were the problem. Thanks for your comments.
@terryfinley77602 күн бұрын
So, what lessons did you learn regarding avoiding this failure in the next one?
@airstreamwanderings368314 сағат бұрын
Good question. I think the key was making sure the pot is 100% dry and preheated. And also it was set too close to very hot coals.
@trevorpayne507021 күн бұрын
Get video Wes. I’m going to make one of these for a huge Tonto Polychrome when we get home from Mn.
@airstreamwanderings368320 күн бұрын
Excellent. I look forward to seeing it.
@EpiCai22 күн бұрын
might want to try adding other types of clay (ball clay, bentonite clay, etc.), from what I understand having more varieties of clay and clay size particles in a clay body will increase/improve the plasticity. the smaller particle clay will fill in the empty gaps of the bigger clay particles. You might also want to try adding fiber/paper pulp, the cellulose fibers will help create links to help the particles hold on to each other better, as in fired paper clay. adding a little Sodium Silicate/water glass might also help flux and make the clay particles more sticky to each other. Just throwing more ideas your way for future experiments :) All the best!
@airstreamwanderings368315 күн бұрын
Thanks, I appreciate you input and ideas. Cheers.
@OneKindWord22 күн бұрын
Truly wonderful!!
@airstreamwanderings368315 күн бұрын
Many thanks! Love the name of your channel.
@willorocks23 күн бұрын
That's a monster! 😮😱
@airstreamwanderings368323 күн бұрын
Now the real work begins.
@stephenwalford77423 күн бұрын
Go big Wes...is that the size of your oven ?..my puki was 13 inch ..finished jar was 17..just into the oven at a slight angle for pre heat.
@chrisinkansas850723 күн бұрын
Super!
@airstreamwanderings368323 күн бұрын
Super sized
@mihailvormittag621124 күн бұрын
👍
@dawnbarone580424 күн бұрын
I use this method but with a sheet of clay as opposed to plaster of Paris.
@airstreamwanderings368323 күн бұрын
Yes I saw a video on that method as well. I tried making a large puki that way and the clay wasn't strong enough and collapsed. Thanks for your comment.
@dawnbarone580423 күн бұрын
@@airstreamwanderings3683 I haven't tried to make one as large as 17" so you make a great point. I do appreciate your videos, very informative and well edited!
@beardeddragona21024 күн бұрын
Just came across your videos :) tysm for sharing your process!
@airstreamwanderings368323 күн бұрын
Great, glad you liked it.
@lizmikols207525 күн бұрын
Inspiring. Thanks, Wes.
@airstreamwanderings368323 күн бұрын
Thank you so much. Cheers
@LastEmpireOfMusic28 күн бұрын
sadly temp is far to low to do anything proper.
@airstreamwanderings368327 күн бұрын
I suppose that depends what proper is. I typically hit about 900C which is fine for primitive pottery. it would be nice if I could get enough heat for glazes.
@markgibsons_SWpottery28 күн бұрын
you make that look easy, Wes!
@airstreamwanderings368328 күн бұрын
I slowed down for the video.
@mihailvormittag621129 күн бұрын
👍
@airstreamwanderings368329 күн бұрын
thank you
@beyondconfusion345829 күн бұрын
So mighty fine primitive steal structure you have their for the pit lol
@airstreamwanderings368329 күн бұрын
Yes I dug the ore, smelted it, and beat it into submission.
@lizmikols207529 күн бұрын
Thanks, Wes. As always, well-done. I plan to replicate Chaco Culture Chocolate Jars, so I'm delighted that I found this video. I recently watched a video by Andy Ward, in which he said that the ancient pottery makers in SW USA/NW Mexico never "pulled" handles. They always riveted. It makes sense, as any attachment is inherently weak. Wouldn't it be fun to time-travel and find that ancient potter who came up with riveting?
@airstreamwanderings368329 күн бұрын
Time travel would be amazing. There would be so many options.
@ellenlinscheid943529 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video. Did you polish the slips before painting? Have you ever encountered slips that dont want to accept the paint?
@airstreamwanderings368329 күн бұрын
Yes I did polish them a bit before painting. Whether some slips accept paint differently is a great question which I have not tested. I know you need smectite clay to accept organic paint but I don't know if there is a difference with mineral paints. I will have to put than on the to-do list.
@sarahjarden830629 күн бұрын
Is that ash at the bottom, or soil/sand?
@airstreamwanderings368329 күн бұрын
Good question. The steel fire ring is very concave so I filled it in with bricks and sand to make it flat on the bottom and to better use the full diameter of the space. Cheers
@sandraleenerts6805Ай бұрын
Wonderful result. Watching you create the fire pit was very informative. I really appreciate the manner in which you explain things as you go along.
@airstreamwanderings368327 күн бұрын
Thanks for your comment. I wish you well with your pottery adventures.
@sandraleenerts6805Ай бұрын
Beautiful result! A real steady hand.
@airstreamwanderings368327 күн бұрын
Thank you. It really helps to have long bristles. They pretty much ensure a straight line if you just pull it.
@redeyegreyАй бұрын
A stainless steel drum from a dryer would probably be great for this.
@airstreamwanderings3683Ай бұрын
Good idea, I bet your are right.
@willorocksАй бұрын
Nice results that looks real neat!
@airstreamwanderings3683Ай бұрын
Thanks, always a work in progress.
@chrisinkansas8507Ай бұрын
Nice effort. Might just add less organic matl without the foil.
@airstreamwanderings3683Ай бұрын
Yes, I think you are right.
@menrisch1903Ай бұрын
hey i love your hole spirit and your potteri is amazing i love it. Can you show how you use all your work in your Home i mean how you can use it and make a viedeo out of it? greetings
@airstreamwanderings3683Ай бұрын
Thanks, I like getting suggestions for future videos Can you tell me more of what you are asking? I'm not sure I understand.
@menrisch1903Ай бұрын
@@airstreamwanderings3683 Just how you also use it to store flour or something in a way like your coking video. Thanks for your quick answer. Nice Day and greetings
@llanitedaveАй бұрын
I love that black sheen! I've tried it once with a small bowl completely immersed in tamarisk needles, and l had a similar black finish. I want to do that again. Out of curiosity, I later refired that bowl in oxidation, and it went right back to its normal red color. Now I'm wondering how well that carbon seals the pores.
@airstreamwanderings3683Ай бұрын
The black does not rub off but I really don't know whether it does much to seal up the pot. Was there a functional reason for smudging or was it purely aesthetic?
@llanitedaveАй бұрын
@@airstreamwanderings3683 It was just to see if I could do it. I do like the look, though.
@sandraleenerts6805Ай бұрын
That is a beautiful pot. Thank you for taking us through all the iterations to get there. This is not a suggestion, because I am just learning, but I wondered if you put wet sand or mud around the pot lip to seal in the organic matter, might that create the smudge you are looking for would the whole thing blow up? My Hostas hate heat, how do yours survive the fire and heat so close to them? I live in New Mexico, so there is that climate consideration, but they are fighting the good fight...
@airstreamwanderings3683Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching. Sand or mud might seal it up but I would be concerned that the moisture would be absorbed by the clay and cause cracking or failure to fire completely on the rim.
@sandraleenerts6805Ай бұрын
@@airstreamwanderings3683 Ah Yes, moisture...I hadn't considered this. Thank you for another consideration as I muck about in the clay!
@PanTingsАй бұрын
great experiment Wes🎉 very interesting to watch
@PanTingsАй бұрын
oh i used to do smudging experiments with small items, it helps having more organic matter to burn as it increases the amount of unburnt carbon which deposits on surface in layers and makes it shinier
@airstreamwanderings3683Ай бұрын
Thanks. I think it would also help to have very dry material that easily burned, like leaves.
@PanTingsАй бұрын
@@airstreamwanderings3683 True
@markgibsons_SWpotteryАй бұрын
Great pot! Decent smudge for sure! Great stuff!
@airstreamwanderings3683Ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@cliffordkelly5327Ай бұрын
Howdy again Wes ! Say, how big a diameter on that “Dinwiddie” ?!
@airstreamwanderings3683Ай бұрын
The outside diameter is about 10 inches
@airstreamwanderings3683Ай бұрын
BTW - it is not intentionally Dinwiddie. I saw a design I liked and thought it would look ok with a white band in the middle of red. This is all mineral paint and I don't know if Dinwiddie is organic or not.
@cliffordkelly5327Ай бұрын
@@airstreamwanderings3683 Howdy again & thanks for letting me know ! It’s still a great bowl , I’m sure ANYBODY, would like to be th proud owner of a “Wes” bowl/ jar/ pot !!
@angeladazlich7145Ай бұрын
Another great video Wes, I like to see the ways you adapt
@airstreamwanderings3683Ай бұрын
Thanks. I'm glad it worked out. Not perfect but good enough.
@angeladazlich7145Ай бұрын
@@airstreamwanderings3683 If you want perfect buy something plastic from Wal Mart lol. Give me natural beauty!
@DabblinDawnАй бұрын
Hi Wes. I enjoyed your video. I invert the pot onto the combustibles, as you did with the two smaller pots. One thing I do which gets my pots a good smudge is I use dried pine needles and leaves as the combustibles. I think the resins, and other volatile oils in the organic material, make the smudge better (hotter so more carbon is released) as opposed to using shredded paper, which, admittedly, I have not tried. If you give it a try I’d love to see the results!🌻
@airstreamwanderings3683Ай бұрын
Thanks for the info! I think loose dried leaves would be good. I never thought about the resins. Good idea.
@j.sanders4017Ай бұрын
Don't recall where I heard it, but I believe that dried pine-cones and/or pine-needles packed into the vessel also smudges well.
@airstreamwanderings3683Ай бұрын
Makes sense. Right now everything is wet in the forest.
@stephenwalford774Ай бұрын
Unless that rim is not fully fired, I would call that a success.. Those clouds give it everything.. Lovely bowl
@airstreamwanderings3683Ай бұрын
Thanks. I'm confident the first firing took care of the rim. Not everyone likes the clouds but we both do.
@cliffordkelly5327Ай бұрын
Howdy Wes ! Great video as always & thanks for including your mistakes & victories , that we all can learn from ! I too want to make a “Dinwiddie” as well, bcuz I love those big round bowls & flared rims! Great paint job & I wouldn’t be so hard on myself for having fire clouds on the rims, from smudging, adds to the ancient look ! Great video all the way around ! Thanks for sharing, keep on potting & I’ll keep watching !
@airstreamwanderings3683Ай бұрын
I always appreciate your comments. In the end I like the more ancient look too.
@marleneruddell9395Ай бұрын
Thank you Wes, great video! Really enjoyed watching
@airstreamwanderings3683Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@jasongannon7676Ай бұрын
I tried a couple of weeks ago smugging, but didn't have good results. I will try what you did with slightly different techniques. I think you have helped me figure out some things.
@airstreamwanderings3683Ай бұрын
I hope it works out. Practice doesn't make perfect in pottery but it definitely makes things better.
@clementramon8589Ай бұрын
Good video Wes. Yeah I agree. Big pot still a keeper. Thank you for sharing.
@airstreamwanderings3683Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and for your comment!
@mihailvormittag6211Ай бұрын
👍
@airstreamwanderings3683Ай бұрын
Thanks, have a great day.
@mihailvormittag6211Ай бұрын
@@airstreamwanderings3683 A nice day to you too!
@lindathelighthouse6518Ай бұрын
health, happiness, peace and love❤
@airstreamwanderings3683Ай бұрын
Thank you, much appreciated.
@lindathelighthouse6518Ай бұрын
Beautiful 🤠✊
@airstreamwanderings3683Ай бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@nom_bАй бұрын
Another useful experiment, and seeing as you have done it, we don't have to try it now. I suggest you keep using the aloe vera juice in your clay though... It would be a lot better than drinking it. 😅
@airstreamwanderings3683Ай бұрын
Thanks for the tip but I think I will stick with water. I just threw out the remaining rice water which was very moldy. I recognize, though, that different people and different clays may have different results.
@samanthanicholson9015Ай бұрын
Did you fire them before glaze or did they get glazed when dried then fired.?
@airstreamwanderings3683Ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment. The pots are not glazed but they are painted. I always paint before they are fired so they are fired just one time. If I use slip, the slip is applied when the clay is leather hard but the pot is allowed to totally dry before painting. I hope this helps.
@PanTingsАй бұрын
Very interesting experiment, thanks for sharing
@airstreamwanderings3683Ай бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@willorocksАй бұрын
Really interesting experiment Wes! Pretty cool!
@airstreamwanderings3683Ай бұрын
Thanks. There are always more questions than answers.
@sandraleenerts6805Ай бұрын
Shanti, Shanti, Shanti...Peace, Peace, Peace...all cultures say it, why is it beyond our ability ( except in a personal manner) to get along?
@airstreamwanderings3683Ай бұрын
Great question but no answer but we can manage our own behavior and do our best to create peace in our own sphere of influence.
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Your painting is always beautiful
Thank you so much 😀
Very beautiful 💙
Thank you, it was fun to make.
Interesting idea
Thanks, it works well.
4 Potential problems and how to solve it. 1. Air bubbles in clay make sure you'r bottom part of the pot don't have air bubbles. 2. Not enough preheating, longer is better. 3. Moisture in the wood or coal. Make sure your burning material is completely dry. 4. Bad processed or generally low quality clay or grog.
Yes, I think preheating and not enough drying were the problem. Thanks for your comments.
So, what lessons did you learn regarding avoiding this failure in the next one?
Good question. I think the key was making sure the pot is 100% dry and preheated. And also it was set too close to very hot coals.
Get video Wes. I’m going to make one of these for a huge Tonto Polychrome when we get home from Mn.
Excellent. I look forward to seeing it.
might want to try adding other types of clay (ball clay, bentonite clay, etc.), from what I understand having more varieties of clay and clay size particles in a clay body will increase/improve the plasticity. the smaller particle clay will fill in the empty gaps of the bigger clay particles. You might also want to try adding fiber/paper pulp, the cellulose fibers will help create links to help the particles hold on to each other better, as in fired paper clay. adding a little Sodium Silicate/water glass might also help flux and make the clay particles more sticky to each other. Just throwing more ideas your way for future experiments :) All the best!
Thanks, I appreciate you input and ideas. Cheers.
Truly wonderful!!
Many thanks! Love the name of your channel.
That's a monster! 😮😱
Now the real work begins.
Go big Wes...is that the size of your oven ?..my puki was 13 inch ..finished jar was 17..just into the oven at a slight angle for pre heat.
Super!
Super sized
👍
I use this method but with a sheet of clay as opposed to plaster of Paris.
Yes I saw a video on that method as well. I tried making a large puki that way and the clay wasn't strong enough and collapsed. Thanks for your comment.
@@airstreamwanderings3683 I haven't tried to make one as large as 17" so you make a great point. I do appreciate your videos, very informative and well edited!
Just came across your videos :) tysm for sharing your process!
Great, glad you liked it.
Inspiring. Thanks, Wes.
Thank you so much. Cheers
sadly temp is far to low to do anything proper.
I suppose that depends what proper is. I typically hit about 900C which is fine for primitive pottery. it would be nice if I could get enough heat for glazes.
you make that look easy, Wes!
I slowed down for the video.
👍
thank you
So mighty fine primitive steal structure you have their for the pit lol
Yes I dug the ore, smelted it, and beat it into submission.
Thanks, Wes. As always, well-done. I plan to replicate Chaco Culture Chocolate Jars, so I'm delighted that I found this video. I recently watched a video by Andy Ward, in which he said that the ancient pottery makers in SW USA/NW Mexico never "pulled" handles. They always riveted. It makes sense, as any attachment is inherently weak. Wouldn't it be fun to time-travel and find that ancient potter who came up with riveting?
Time travel would be amazing. There would be so many options.
Thanks for the video. Did you polish the slips before painting? Have you ever encountered slips that dont want to accept the paint?
Yes I did polish them a bit before painting. Whether some slips accept paint differently is a great question which I have not tested. I know you need smectite clay to accept organic paint but I don't know if there is a difference with mineral paints. I will have to put than on the to-do list.
Is that ash at the bottom, or soil/sand?
Good question. The steel fire ring is very concave so I filled it in with bricks and sand to make it flat on the bottom and to better use the full diameter of the space. Cheers
Wonderful result. Watching you create the fire pit was very informative. I really appreciate the manner in which you explain things as you go along.
Thanks for your comment. I wish you well with your pottery adventures.
Beautiful result! A real steady hand.
Thank you. It really helps to have long bristles. They pretty much ensure a straight line if you just pull it.
A stainless steel drum from a dryer would probably be great for this.
Good idea, I bet your are right.
Nice results that looks real neat!
Thanks, always a work in progress.
Nice effort. Might just add less organic matl without the foil.
Yes, I think you are right.
hey i love your hole spirit and your potteri is amazing i love it. Can you show how you use all your work in your Home i mean how you can use it and make a viedeo out of it? greetings
Thanks, I like getting suggestions for future videos Can you tell me more of what you are asking? I'm not sure I understand.
@@airstreamwanderings3683 Just how you also use it to store flour or something in a way like your coking video. Thanks for your quick answer. Nice Day and greetings
I love that black sheen! I've tried it once with a small bowl completely immersed in tamarisk needles, and l had a similar black finish. I want to do that again. Out of curiosity, I later refired that bowl in oxidation, and it went right back to its normal red color. Now I'm wondering how well that carbon seals the pores.
The black does not rub off but I really don't know whether it does much to seal up the pot. Was there a functional reason for smudging or was it purely aesthetic?
@@airstreamwanderings3683 It was just to see if I could do it. I do like the look, though.
That is a beautiful pot. Thank you for taking us through all the iterations to get there. This is not a suggestion, because I am just learning, but I wondered if you put wet sand or mud around the pot lip to seal in the organic matter, might that create the smudge you are looking for would the whole thing blow up? My Hostas hate heat, how do yours survive the fire and heat so close to them? I live in New Mexico, so there is that climate consideration, but they are fighting the good fight...
Thanks for watching. Sand or mud might seal it up but I would be concerned that the moisture would be absorbed by the clay and cause cracking or failure to fire completely on the rim.
@@airstreamwanderings3683 Ah Yes, moisture...I hadn't considered this. Thank you for another consideration as I muck about in the clay!
great experiment Wes🎉 very interesting to watch
oh i used to do smudging experiments with small items, it helps having more organic matter to burn as it increases the amount of unburnt carbon which deposits on surface in layers and makes it shinier
Thanks. I think it would also help to have very dry material that easily burned, like leaves.
@@airstreamwanderings3683 True
Great pot! Decent smudge for sure! Great stuff!
Thanks 👍
Howdy again Wes ! Say, how big a diameter on that “Dinwiddie” ?!
The outside diameter is about 10 inches
BTW - it is not intentionally Dinwiddie. I saw a design I liked and thought it would look ok with a white band in the middle of red. This is all mineral paint and I don't know if Dinwiddie is organic or not.
@@airstreamwanderings3683 Howdy again & thanks for letting me know ! It’s still a great bowl , I’m sure ANYBODY, would like to be th proud owner of a “Wes” bowl/ jar/ pot !!
Another great video Wes, I like to see the ways you adapt
Thanks. I'm glad it worked out. Not perfect but good enough.
@@airstreamwanderings3683 If you want perfect buy something plastic from Wal Mart lol. Give me natural beauty!
Hi Wes. I enjoyed your video. I invert the pot onto the combustibles, as you did with the two smaller pots. One thing I do which gets my pots a good smudge is I use dried pine needles and leaves as the combustibles. I think the resins, and other volatile oils in the organic material, make the smudge better (hotter so more carbon is released) as opposed to using shredded paper, which, admittedly, I have not tried. If you give it a try I’d love to see the results!🌻
Thanks for the info! I think loose dried leaves would be good. I never thought about the resins. Good idea.
Don't recall where I heard it, but I believe that dried pine-cones and/or pine-needles packed into the vessel also smudges well.
Makes sense. Right now everything is wet in the forest.
Unless that rim is not fully fired, I would call that a success.. Those clouds give it everything.. Lovely bowl
Thanks. I'm confident the first firing took care of the rim. Not everyone likes the clouds but we both do.
Howdy Wes ! Great video as always & thanks for including your mistakes & victories , that we all can learn from ! I too want to make a “Dinwiddie” as well, bcuz I love those big round bowls & flared rims! Great paint job & I wouldn’t be so hard on myself for having fire clouds on the rims, from smudging, adds to the ancient look ! Great video all the way around ! Thanks for sharing, keep on potting & I’ll keep watching !
I always appreciate your comments. In the end I like the more ancient look too.
Thank you Wes, great video! Really enjoyed watching
Glad you enjoyed it!
I tried a couple of weeks ago smugging, but didn't have good results. I will try what you did with slightly different techniques. I think you have helped me figure out some things.
I hope it works out. Practice doesn't make perfect in pottery but it definitely makes things better.
Good video Wes. Yeah I agree. Big pot still a keeper. Thank you for sharing.
Thanks for watching and for your comment!
👍
Thanks, have a great day.
@@airstreamwanderings3683 A nice day to you too!
health, happiness, peace and love❤
Thank you, much appreciated.
Beautiful 🤠✊
Thank you! Cheers!
Another useful experiment, and seeing as you have done it, we don't have to try it now. I suggest you keep using the aloe vera juice in your clay though... It would be a lot better than drinking it. 😅
Thanks for the tip but I think I will stick with water. I just threw out the remaining rice water which was very moldy. I recognize, though, that different people and different clays may have different results.
Did you fire them before glaze or did they get glazed when dried then fired.?
Thanks for your comment. The pots are not glazed but they are painted. I always paint before they are fired so they are fired just one time. If I use slip, the slip is applied when the clay is leather hard but the pot is allowed to totally dry before painting. I hope this helps.
Very interesting experiment, thanks for sharing
Thank you! Cheers!
Really interesting experiment Wes! Pretty cool!
Thanks. There are always more questions than answers.
Shanti, Shanti, Shanti...Peace, Peace, Peace...all cultures say it, why is it beyond our ability ( except in a personal manner) to get along?
Great question but no answer but we can manage our own behavior and do our best to create peace in our own sphere of influence.