We're Col & Kirsty, from the West of Scotland. We love adventuring and travelling around the UK but predominantly our beloved homeland of Scotland. We hike trails, cycle, canoe, kayak and wild camp in some of the most spectacular areas of outstanding beauty Scotland has to offer. Come join us on our next journey of exploration and adventure.
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Akto is longer than stated as the ends slope away so, as long as you lie on a pad and not directly on the ground, you benefit from the extra length.
Yeah, misread the online stats on fjallraven site, must have looked at the internal sizes like a plinker 👍
Thank you very much, very helpfull. ❤
Thanks for watching and the kind comment, it's appreciated 👍
Great review. I just bought my Atmos AG65 a few days ago. Looking forward to try it out, but I think it's worth every penny!
Totally agree, used it on a lot of hikes over the last 6 months and it's definitely a good comfortable backpack 👍
Don't they make bigger than 65 liters with the AG system?
Not sure, I think, if I remember properly it only comes in 50 and 65 litre 👍
@@WestieTravels Yeah, that's what it seems so. 65 liters should be enough though for a 4-5 day trip up a winter mountain, right?
@jimsagubigula7337 yeah, should be fine, depending what you take, thanks exactly what I bought it for, check out tha Atmos 65 AG and the LT version, the LT is a more basic version without all the pockets, depends how you like to pack your backpack 👍
@@WestieTravels I generally try to pack as light as possible because I had some bad experienced in the past with over packing. As for the LT version, I don't know. I like having some spare pockets and somewhere to store my ice axe and trekking poles.
@jimsagubigula7337 you'll be fine with the 65 AG then, you'll enjoy a comfortable hike with this pack 👍
Should have done the decathlon forclaz as it’s a mix of the two
Not seen that tent ⛺ I'll check it out later, cheers 👍
Exactly the video I needed. Currently on the fence between the abisko lite 1 and 2 and on the verge of reaching the same conclusion of the extra cost and weight is hardly a penalty for the space you get in the 2. Have you had them both out in similarly strong wind? Find them equally capably on that front? Cheers, great video
Yes, definitely go for the lite 2, the minimal extra weight is worth the extra room and comfort and it stands up to the wind very well 👍
@@WestieTravels ended up going for the 1 😅 it's a comparable size to the robens chaser 2 I'm replacing (smaller inner, bigger vestibule) and saw it for a cracking price so couldn't resist. Can definitely foresee myself being tempted still by the abisko lite 2 if I see it at a good price though 😂. Cheers again for the video, came back to watch again a few more times to help my indecisive mind
Glad I could help in some some way, hope you get many years use out of it 👍
From research it looks like the akto has 30d fabrics for fly/inner vs. 15/20d for the abisko. Do you think the abisko can hold up to iceland winds? I'm able to find one as cheap as $414 USD. I'd probably pay at least $150 more for an Akto on sale.
Went for Abisko 1, so far so good. My friend has an Akto, also great (both in my most recent video)
The abisko light has a moveable floor too. Gives you much more room for cooking in the vestibule
Yeah, use it all the time, must have forgotten to mention it 😊 many thanks for taking the time to watch it 👍
Maybe I am wrong but in my opinion someone says akto has more stronger fabric and etc but and the price of akto is 100-200 gbp more than Abisko The most part of people who buy those tents will not see extremely bad storm regularly ( my experience) So I bought my Abisko lite 1 with fp for 450 gbp and decided do not pay more money for almost equal tent Maybe who has more money can consider both, in my case I chose cheaper Abisko and think it will be no worse ! Wish the best for all hikers Both tents are great but depends on your pocket Cheers
Hilleberg produces in Europe whereas Fjällräven does in China. That's why they can offer it cheaper. To me it feels better to own a product Made in Europe.
Thank you for your review! I was becoming increasingly indecisive watching different reviews going back and forth not knowing what pack to buy and then stumbled across your review which was like a breath of fresh air. After much deliberation you helped ease my pain and make a decision and have ordered one for myself. Excited to get out and put it to use soon. Thanks again
Glad the review helped, it's a really comfy pack, you won't regret it! Many thanks for the kind words and for taking the time to watch it and comment 👍
I’ve just gone through the process of thinking of buying one of these two tents.. I bought neither. Instead I went with the Tarptent Scarp 1 Ultra TNT with the carbon cross poles, a solid inner and a full mesh inner and a tyvek groundsheet all for a price (Inc import from the states) less than either of these tents.
Yeah, they are very expensive tents, how are you finding the tarptent scarp? 👍⛺
Great cinematography Col, looks a beautiful wee island
Thanks Kirsty 👍
Lovely vid. I live on Jura at the Pier at Craighouse, we do get quite a few sunny days and it's mild weather as a microclimate, plenty of rain and midges though
You're very lucky to live in such a stunning place, appreciate the nice comment 👍
Just stunning! 🥰 Thanks for sharing and showcasing our magnificent Country! 💙🏴
Cheers! Appreciate the kind comment, thanks for taking the time to watch and comment 👍
Have the high back version + sand mat/base. Will be my luxury item when I do Cumbria way in July. Can't fault helinox gear, also have walking poles and one of their cots.
Yeah quality kit , had a wee seat in my friends high back Helinox last weekend, really comfy chair, might just get myself one too...do you feel like the mat is worth purchasing? 👍
@@WestieTravels definitely, especially if you're on soft/wet ground or sand. Also useful if it's a bit windy.. weigh it down with a few rocks
Thanks for that 👍 like the idea of weighing it down from blowing away, will check it out
Great review. Love this wee camping chair. Thanks
Thanks Kirsty, appreciate that 👍
Lite 1 is best for long distance hikes where all you want in the evening is to cook and go sleep…lite 2 is best for short trip with few days camping (like I do) it give you more space to feel more comfortable and camp site….and the view I don’t have one so I don’t know but I bet it would be good for me just for summer time where other two might be too hot when pitched all day in sunny days 🤷♂️✌️
Good summary of the three tents. 👍
@@WestieTravels instead buying fjall view I would buy mesh inner for abisko 2 it’s cost about 150-200 and lite 2 features making it good tent for summer also…but yea it’s hard to find it and company make them once a year also ✌️
Yeah, you'd be right to do that my friend, unfortunately I bought the view before the lite 2... But definitely a good option for anyone considering it 👍⛺
Great review. I would choose the Fjällräven. I think its the more advanced "Akto".
Totally agree 👍 great tent, thanks for the comment
What a brilliant video guys , we must visit the beautiful island of Islay , I didn't realise it was so big , thanks for history lesson Col , I really enjoyed it 🖌️🎨
Cheers Gaz, yeah, Islay is my favourite southern Island, has a nice feel about it 👍
Great video, thanks for taking the time to showcase those tents. I’m a big fan of fjallraven, I own the Abisko lite 1 in sand colour, cracking wee tent 🏕️
Yeah great tents, appreciate the kind comment, many thanks for taking the time to comment 👍
Midges likely had a lot to do with the Romans heading south!
You're probably not wrong on that one John👍😜
I have used abisko for 2 nights in some very strong winds and helm 1 for abt 6 nights..so far i must say helm somehow feels better.more stable in wind and so easy to set up, and abisko did leak a bit .All the lightweigh stuff cost a lot but not necessary perform better.
Terra nova make some decent kit, the helm has two poles so would definitely feel more solid but at nearly 2kg is heavier and for that weight you could get the ABISKO lite 2 tent which gives more room but as you say, the ABISKO range are very expensive... definitely no such thing as a perfect tent, you gain in some things and lose in others... thanks for sharing your thoughts on it, always good to hear different opinions 👍
@@WestieTravels yes abisko 2 looks good.. i m using abisko 1 with a footprint, and considering a second pole ..so then it all will weight same as helm one. helm got more inner space also. but i want to like the abisko 1 :)
@@WestieTravels what's your opinion on using a footprint on abisko? floor feels thin and siliconized material is more difficult to repair..otherwise i would be just happy to leave footprint behind to save weight..
I always use a footprint, though to be honest, I used an old one from another tent, I only want to protect the bottom but don't like it in my porch areas, as I like to cook using meths and pour out my cooking water
I just seam sealed my Abisko 1 as it comes with sealant, doubt it will leak.
How do you decide where to camp? Can you set up among the ruins? Thanks for the beautiful views. Love your puppy.
Many thanks for the kind words, being based in Scotland, we have a right to wild camp anywhere ( as long as you aren't interfering with someone's business), so it's really just a case of keeping an eye out for d cent spots with great views. We also use an app that has park up for the night spots sometimes 👍
What a fabulous trip 😍 👌
Two stunning islands 💓
Any opinion on AG LITE SERIES ..
Yes, excellent bag as well, same carry system, just not as many pockets, so very comfortable but lighter than the full Atmos AG bag. My partner just but the female version and absolutely lives it...it's all a question if you need all the extra pockets or not...hope this helps 👍
I'm liking the Abisko lite 1 tent! the only problem I see is that it seems to have a very short width. Can it fit a 25" (65cm) inflatable mat if put just in the middle hence not reaching both ends which are shorter in width?
Yup easily…and You will still have little space for bits and bobs ✌️
@@Czeslawwieslaww Indeed I can confirm it now. it just fits, pushing a bit on all corners, but fitting fine. We talk about the maximum mat size it can hold while still leaving a small triangle in the middle for stuff.
BTW, does anybody know if the Abisko lite 1 can fit a 25" inflatable pad? It looks to be designed to hold only 20" pads?
Id imagine it would be fine unless you had a really long sleeping pad, as the tent tapers from wide in the middle to narrow at both ends, unless your mat is 240cm long then it would probably fit in at a tight squeeze 👍
@@WestieTravels I'm talking about the Big Agnes Rapide long wide hence 64cm x 198cm or 25"x78". I'm now just with the tent in the cart waiting to pull the trigger! :D
It will fit, but will be tight at either end where it narrows in, have you had a look at the ABISKO lite 2 tent? I prefer it to the ABISKO 1, only 350g heavier, but so much more room and still a 4 season tent
@@WestieTravels I was initially looking at 1 person tunnel tents to minimize space. The other option probably could be the Abisko 2 o even a Hilleberg Unna. Still willing though to buy the Abisko 1 lite but can't find anybody who is using it with 64cms mats :D :D
@@PepeLotas-hg3mt I use the Rapide SL in my Abisko 1 and it does fit. Feels slightly too wide, but so far it works. :) May be helpful..
I remember top bags in the past with a pad sleev underneath and fill only on top. They were a good hybrid. Macpac, Rab And phd did them.
Yeah, remember them too, the enlightened equipment quilts are kinda similar, you can use them as a pure quilt or cinch them in as a sleeping bag. 👍
Great Review. you forgot to mention the adjusting straps to pull down the shoulder straps to fit you properly. they are so great and easy to fit your pack properly.
Yeah, totally forgot to mention them, I don't work to a script so my old fuddled mind often forgets something 😂 but as you say a great comfortable backpack 👍
Great review. This pack has been on my short list for a long time. My only issue, which to me is a big one, is the side access. The Gregory Baltoro 65 has a full U shape opening for full access to the main compartment. The Osprey Aether also has this feature so I was hoping a 2024 version had it but it does not. Do you ever feel the side access zips to the main compartment could be larger? Will a bear canister fit through? Main compartment access without going through the top of the pack is one feature my next one will have, I just want to be sure the size on the Atmos is sufficient.
Not sure about the bear cannister, my last pack was the Gregory Z65 which had the large u shaped opening, but to be honest I hardly used it, that's why I went for the Atmos, between the comfort and many compartments for my kit, it's a winner for me. Many thanks for the kind comment 👍
Thank you , you had great weather for your days hike , I’ve just done the WHW a couple of weeks ago, loved it brilliant hike 🤗. That rain would certainly dampen that fire out 🙈. 🥾🏴
Love the WHW, can be a bit busy sometimes but great scenery as long as the weather is decent, many thanks for the kind words 👍
Howdy Colin. Park Centre John here. Nice video! As it happens I'll be staying in Killin for my birthday later in the year.
Ooft, that was quick lol, many thanks for the subscription bud 👍 have a good weekend!
Great review, thank you
Many thanks 👍 appreciate you taking the time to comment 😄⛺🎥
Another great detailed video Westie!
Much appreciated, many thanks 👍
I have the abisco light 1... have had it up mountains in some real heavy storms. It preformed excellently.. I lent it to a friend who had always used the akto, he was very impressed and now has one... someone said it's what the akto would be if hilleberg upgraded it.. I love my abisco light 1...
Spot on mate 👍 that was exactly my thoughts on it, it's as if fjallraven took the 20 year old Akto and fixed everything that would improve it, the Akto is still a great wee tent and over a longer period, it may prove to be more durable, fabric wise.
@@WestieTravels like a lot of our type , I have a collection of tents (which keeps getting bigger, against my family's wishes )... so I can switch and swap my tents as the conditions require... so I don't have to think about any 1 tent getting worn out.. I have cheap and expensive tents, I don't discriminate.. infact one of my favourite tents is my little 40 odd pound bobcat 1.. that tent has survived storms that would trash many other tents.. I have semi-retired the bobcat because I don't want anything to happen to it. Like my abisco I have grown to love it... I am waiting for my vern 1 to be delivered ( yes I fell for the hype ) but will not be able to truelly test it till winter... Take care out there.
Haha, I'm the exact same, far too many tents but I genuinely believe I need every single one of them, there's no such thing as a perfect piece of kit, just kit that perfect for a certain type of situation...let me know how you get on with the vern, I was tempted myself lol 👍
@@WestieTravels kit !!! Tell me about it.. I have a list that I never seem to complete. As I buy things I add more things to the list. Somehow the list just keeps getting longer. I have multiples of things.. because of different season's, different weather's, over nighters versus multiple dayers.. on and on it goes.. have just started recording and posting my camps so my grandkids will have somthing to watch later on ( iam getting them into camping, & take them out sometimes ).. I am completely uneducated with computers and technology, so now iam going to have to start buying equipment as I learn more.. have been told that can get as addictive as the camping kit..
Perfectly summed up ref kit! With regards to learning all the technology with regards to recording your trips and editing, it shocked me how much work is required to a hike/camp video of a trip....great thing is it encourages you to get of the couch and head into the wilds 👍⛺🎬
Such a lovely island. Have you ever done the coastal trail?
Yep, a couple of times 👍 great hike to do in good weather
Love Vindolanda ❤️
Great review. A tip with the Akto door is to roll it from the bottom, left to right (as you are looking at it from the outside), not upwards or diagonally. It will not come undone when the wind hits it. ATB Jiffy 👍🏻
Good man, I'll give that a bash 👍 I knew I was probably doing it wrong, these things are always harder after a long day hiking or more likely I'm just getting old lol...cheers for the tip bud
@@WestieTravels No worries mate, I was having the same issue until someone showed me 👍🏻
great review.
Thanks bud 👍 appreciate you taking the time to comment 😊
I own the Abisko 1 , the only tent I have , a cracking little all rounder .
Yeah, it's my go to tent for wid conditions on the mountains, I recently purchased the ABISKO lite 2 tent and absolutely love it, a lot more room for just under 350 grams and still a four season tent...happy trails bud 👍
Abisko internal width at the ends is 55cm not 70cm Akto internal width at the ends is 62cm So Akto is wider not Abisko
You're absolutely right, just rechecked the fjallraven site, I've accidentally given the external width, many thanks for pointing out my error, appreciate you taking the time to let me know 👍
You don't have to roll your Akto poles up inside the tent, just stuff them inside the bag next to the tent.
That's certainly an option, but one I personally wouldn't do as I've always been taught to keep the poles rolled up inside the tent so the risk to ripping the tent fabric is lessened, all personal preference I suppose 👍⛺
@@WestieTravelsI've been stuffing my poles down the side of the tent in the bag for 30 years since I got my first Hilleberg, never rolled them up in the middle. Never had any problems. Noticed you also quoted the Abisko internal length as 240cm and the Hilleberg as 220cm, whereas they are actually both 220cm. And you can open and close the Hilleberg's end vents without going outside, you just have to reach round the end of the inner.
I was comparing these tents for about 3 months. And ended up buying the Hilleberg Akto. The fabric is just so much stronger, so easy to set up, and bigger vestibule. Love it 🌲
Yeah, it's definitely still a great tent and the fabric does seem stronger, but having used both for ages, I do prefer the Fjallraven, the Akto door does my head in 👍
You need to roll the door correctly. If im not mistaken, Hilleberg have a video on how to do it. If you do it like you did in the video, you will be mad haha 😂
Good man, I'll check that out! Though who'd have thought you'd need a video to figure out how to roll a tent door up lol....I had a feeling it was me doing it wrong 👍⛺😄
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Thank you for the review. I already have the Abisko Lite 1/2 on mind for some time, but whats holding me back since is that lots of people in the online-forums complain about the declining quality of fjallraven cloth. I dont know if thats true or not, and neither if thats true for there tents. Also I am concerned about customer support in case something breaks. Do you have some experience to share? thank you!
No experience of their customer service as yet, but so far never had any problems with any of my three Fjallraven tents and find each of the tents have been built to a high standard. Guess only time will tell with the durability of the fabric. It does seem thin, but I decided to risk it and see how they last, so far so good 👍⛺
@@WestieTravels Thanks for the answer :)
No worries 👍
Coz of what you're wearing, if I squint you look like Spiderman's dad.
Haha, brilliant, top notch comment, that one made me laugh 🤣 although I did know you would post that due to my Spidey senses 👍
@@WestieTravels Haha, glad I could help brighten your day 😀
You certainly did bud, funniest comment yet on my channel, bravo sir 👍
Cracking video!! Thank you
Cheers bud, appreciate it 👍
Also have the Abisko Lite 1 with an additional pole kit for an extra bit of security as well as the additional 3 season mesh inner for the summer months. Can't fault it at all.
Good to know, have you used the 2nd pole much since you got it and does it add much strength to the tent?
@@WestieTravelshave used it a few times now and it just makes it so more solid
Cheers 👍 might look into getting a second pole then.
@@WestieTravels Good Luck trying to get them, they're always sold out. I did use Fjallraven's notification system, and also emailed them asking when the next batch was due. Worth the wait to have that extra bit of a safety net if you know the wind might shift during the night and end up being a crosswind. You also get another 4 of the corner poles.
Cheers bud, good to know, will keep my eye out for them 👍
Brilliant review , bro. 🖌️🎨
Thanks Gaz, appreciate it 👍
Nice van what is it
Nissan NV300
Nice informative video, thanks mate!
Many thanks and thanks for taking the time to comment, it's appreciated 👍