I love this interview. It's a shame that he didn't get it, that it's about him too. Not "the others."
@mccommas22 ай бұрын
What year do these two think it is?
@maine-kw6wfy2 ай бұрын
Was able to become successful in a society that her people have never created nor could. Sickening.
@niltomega29783 ай бұрын
O boo Hoo
@user-cb7cz3ty5p3 ай бұрын
The destortion in the psyche had been encouraged and preserved by white based politics in usa
@onedirections11723 ай бұрын
Mother love me keep me warm Mother loves me, keeps me warm, nurtures me, cares for me, and calms me through the storm. To help me mother, help your baby to be strong, nothing more. No Money, is A Mercy, can The Bluest Eye find a Rainbow a Home? For Frank and his Sister here's a poem. I love you, Mother, I thank you everyday, love me, keep me warm, nurture me, care for me, show me what is right and wrong. Your love has kept me, in the light, words that make a man cave bright. And when I go to her at night, she rocks me in my cradle, so I sleep tight. I love you Mother. I Thank you everyday. Mother loves me, keeps me warm, nurtures me, cares for me, and calms me through the storm. To help me Mother, help your baby, to be strong, nothing more. Thank you Toni, for I've been torn, and my mother left me in the storm. By Eddie Campagnola Edward Campagnola, "Directions to the Dumpster" & Pen name "One Directions to Mercy Street"
@hectormanuel97933 ай бұрын
Black people have to hear her words and understand what she means and how profound it is, because blacks have been felling superior to other non-white people and what they have to put up with whites the rest of us have to put up with them.
@lynnmckenna99344 ай бұрын
She touches my heart…nourishes my spirit…
@thomasdequincey58114 ай бұрын
This is all too indefinite for me.
@deyaa_mc4 ай бұрын
Wow, she is so soft spoken/well spoken at the same time. So classy. 👏🏻
@kevinharris39934 ай бұрын
I will give white people some free advice, Repent. Not all white people are racist, but all white people benefit from it. Let white people get in trouble, they will use their entitlement card every time.
@akwaabab85044 ай бұрын
furthermore white people have STOLEN so much from us and he asking her to give them something for free!
@stacyshepherd47055 ай бұрын
I love the way that The Queen Toni Morrison tells white people who they really are,
@leehines12606 ай бұрын
I love hearing her speak. Thank you Toni Morrison.❤
@paulgillispie8676 ай бұрын
Thank you Toni Morrison.❤
@markbeyerauthor7 ай бұрын
Actually, Morrison has the problem with white people. And her awful, AWFUL prose.
@valentinesunday86948 ай бұрын
White people's serious problem is black people ruining the civilization white people created. Notice how no one is flocking to black countries? I wonder why???
@KevinBozarth9 ай бұрын
2:59
@matlock815011 ай бұрын
A bunch of white hating people in the comments what a surprise. How dare white people not listen to her rhetoric
@littledaddysgirl6 Жыл бұрын
THIS WAS A WHOLE READ!!!!!whewwww🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥😊😊😊😍🥰😍
@jonblackers4339 Жыл бұрын
" White People Have a Very Very Serious Problem". Sounds racist to me. Is she really referring to them as one entity, everyone the same?
@chadpopulisjr243 Жыл бұрын
No way she said living with AIDS is easier than living with racism. This is why I don't take these people seriously.
@pam0626 Жыл бұрын
Toni Morrison’s genius rendered Charlie Rose silent. In all the years I watched his show, never saw that before or since.
@Candolad Жыл бұрын
It seems that many black people have a serious problem, especially in the USA. That problem is usually a massive resentment. Just as well Europeans don't have resentment against the myriad invaders and conquerors beginning with the Celts, the Romans, the Vikings and the Ottomans. They raped, pillaged took land and consumed the land.
@c-core9219 Жыл бұрын
So how do you feel ? Ukwazi xawuthe wavana nomntu , Ubana lanto Iphinde idike ? Ziphathe okwenene ngama xesha onke. Xandingena Mali / izinto zingasandi hambile kakhuhle , bangaphi abantu abangandibonela entweni ?
@lisadokes2655 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely BRILLANT, Absolutely POWERFUL, Thank you Toni!!!
@zsedcftglkjh Жыл бұрын
Talk about black crime statistics and how every American city is a gutted, crime infested ghetto, then I'll get back to you, honey.
@tonyb.1905 Жыл бұрын
You're still missing the point, SMH. My friend, try not to deflect and become defensive against her words with shallow statistics. Listen to what she is addressing about individual racism. As for your statement, there are more white people in poverty and white on white crime because in numbers, there are more people who identify themselves as Caucasian or white. Take your emotional response out and address her statement without it if you want a real debate on it. Is that okay, sugar? 😂
@not-even-german4892 Жыл бұрын
Such a gangster human being I adore you.
@rudolphbell9338 Жыл бұрын
Oh honey she drove that home !!!! Amen sister!!
@amorablaine Жыл бұрын
O I thought is from Oprah...the show, I mean.
@PatentRob Жыл бұрын
Yeah, but? White folks still got all the bread so who really has the problem.
@plasticweapon Жыл бұрын
black people have a serious problem, they can't get over the past.
@DavidBryant Жыл бұрын
Low hanging fruits of Caucasian society like yourself are constantly in your feelings. The Caucasian race has the most violent and bloody history of anybody on the planet. You mad pasty?
@matlock815011 ай бұрын
@@DavidBryant Only mad at the level of your ignorance, darky. Have a look at Asia, Koreans, Chinese etc. been brutalizing each other for thousands of years. That would require you to read some books though so nevermind.
@TheV00d00D011 Жыл бұрын
BASED
@chris.kaiser Жыл бұрын
i think she knew that Charlie was a total POS
@greendahlias1429 Жыл бұрын
1:23
@xMXWLx Жыл бұрын
THIS is what Whoopi was talking about.
@s.e.turner8079 Жыл бұрын
I stand with her not my problem sir.
@ZackedOut Жыл бұрын
That's a great analysis on moral inferiority. What's left of the person when you take away someone's race or change their race? I guess that is also the best examination of racial privilege. Has a person only benefitted in life because of their identity with their race.
@alexanderwalters7657 Жыл бұрын
if you are black, perceptive, and intelligent...you are a god damn superhero...why black isnt better than white...but racism makes it to where blacks are better...god damn giving them superpowers
@CriticalDispatches Жыл бұрын
What are you blathering about?
@SoWhatsNew0 Жыл бұрын
Upon our passing and close to it we all will be judged based on were you harming others like mothers and children. We may be asked how did you treat the poor. Those questions will not be about race rather your own words and intent towards others no matter their race. There are deviant people in all races and there are ok people in all races.
@lonepheasant3489 Жыл бұрын
💯
@farrellcityking1 Жыл бұрын
“If you’re only tall because someone else is on their knees..” 🤌🏾 I’ve said this in similar form for so very long.🤦🏾♂️ If you’re only good because every aspect of the game has been rigged in your favor, are you any good at all?
@keenankhamun Жыл бұрын
Most excellently and succinctly said. Its like crowning a boxing champ the best in the world but all their opponents fight blindfolded with one hand tied... but the world saying their the best boxer ever... ridiculous
@keenankhamun Жыл бұрын
@farrellcityking1
@fwefhwe4232 Жыл бұрын
yt ppl dont compare their IQ to Indians and CHinese and d!ck size to blks.
@MelanatednNature4 ай бұрын
Exactly 👏 👏 👏
@GreenGino Жыл бұрын
Ok let's talk about it, maybe it would be solved if the black people would understand that it's the elite the rich and big corporations that took father's out of the homes and put drugs in the black communities and popularize harmful misleading music and information in your children's hands in order to keep the black population in poverty, not the average white person, even during slavery it was the rich mother fuckers not the average white person because they were to poor to own slaves in the first place, these rich elite and big corporations are misdirecting the anger and hatred they have caused in black communities down onto the lower class average white people through fake racism and misinformation through the media these schemes are so they don't have to face the consequences of their own actions, in other words your barking up the wrong tree, and should go after the elite.
@TheV00d00D011 Жыл бұрын
This is a lie and you know it.
@Calbear707trees2 жыл бұрын
Her thinking is what every colored Republican supporter believes. It’s the Democrats and their logic they push to their minority supporters to believe they are inferior.
@youtubehatesus26512 жыл бұрын
"defensive" racism is OK?????????????? rly?
@Hoireabard2 жыл бұрын
She speaks in grossly racist generalizations. She needs to look at herself.
@Sentientmatter82 жыл бұрын
When Charlie said "being black is harder with living with Aids" Toni made a face - I wonder what she was thinking. Maybe she thought, "It's not the who has it worse Olympics," or maybe she thought, "My identity is not a disease". Maybe she thought something else entirely.
@jacksoncowsert69645 ай бұрын
Did you miss where he was quoting someone else?
@socute92482 жыл бұрын
Pure Black brilliance. I listen to this all the time to keep myself motivated, as a white person. It's also a masterclass on how to handle irresponsible white male interviewers, and always return to moral clarity. "Of course I do, but let me tell you, that's not the right question." Btw what a pitiful job interviewing by Rose -- a 45 second question to ask the if she experiences racism as a successful Black person (obviously), talks over her to say that Black people are also racist, talks over her again to say that white people are the real victims of racism, and concludes by asking she her to give free advice. Why did anyone take this guy seriously.
@Auntkekebaby2 жыл бұрын
Rose was terrible the whole time. It's best for us that his own actions got him out of here. I don't miss the ignorant questions and interruptions.
@socute92482 жыл бұрын
@@Auntkekebaby so true! I had literally never seen any of him until I saw this clip incidentally while searching for Toni Morrison, so I didn't realize how bad he was. Toni Morrison's brilliance and character were out of the league of so many of her white, often male, interviewers.
@TheJosephjakob2 жыл бұрын
@@socute9248 it‘s like we‘re seeing two totally different men. The first question seemed ignorant to me, too, but he‘s a white person in the 80s or something, how would he know what it‘s like to be black. Ignorance isn’t bad in itself, the unwillingness to be educated is. He‘s asking after all and not making a statement about it. When she told him that it was the wrong question, he didn’t get defensive either. He just asked for the right one. He could also already know the answer but still ask for the interview‘s sake, many interviewers do that. Secondly, when he mentioned her father being racist he added to her statement and she agreed with him. She has always felt morally superior to racists and her parents did, too. He added that she once mentioned her father being racist as a result of feeling that way and she confirmed it and explains that a little further. It‘s clear to me that he didn‘t say or mean to say that black people are racist, too. When they talk about the victims of racism, he basically summed up what she was saying. She at first explained how distorted racists‘ worldviews and their perception of themselves and others is. She then asked who a racist person without the construct of race and racism really is, points out how small they really are and that racism effects white people maybe even just as negatively as black people because of that. She also refuses to be seen as a victim, as she should, and he goes on to say that the morally inferior person is the ‚real‘ victim of racism and that they hold on to it for their self esteem. She agrees with him again. He never said white people are the real victims of racism. That’s an important thing to point out because it shows how your opinion about white males impacts your ability to see him for what he is. He doesn’t talk over her, he inserted some statements, added to the conversation and guided the overall interview, as an interviewer should. Talking over somebody is meant to shut them up. He clearly didn’t do that. She explained in detail and he just listened for the most part. And when he asked for free advice, he had no malice in his voice or his face. He seemed to want that advice, which would be beneficial for black and white people. She was smart enough to refer to her book, no harm, no foul. Sometimes we project things on people who didn’t do anything wrong, I’m certainly guilty of that. But I’m also conscious of it and I accept that sometimes my perception of others is just skewed. Being a white male asking these questions doesn’t make him a bad guy. It makes him a human, trying to understand. Actually don’t know why I went out of my way to write all that, I think I hope it just might make you question what you believe to be true and reflect.
@socute92482 жыл бұрын
@@TheJosephjakob "The first question seemed ignorant to me, too, but he‘s a white person in the 80s or something, how would he know what it‘s like to be black." -- Dude, it's from 1993. It's not a different era. Also, he is not only a random white man -- he is a prominent journalist hosting a news show. His job is to be knowledgeable and ask good questions, and if he asks ignorant questions he is bad at his job. I am not asking all white men to be perfect, I am asking a well paid news anchor not be bad at his job. Btw this dude sexually harassed at least 35 women.
@TheJosephjakob2 жыл бұрын
@@socute9248 the 90s are a totally different time, people were much more ignorant in general back then. People were much less educated about other peoples' experiences and his question made perfect sense at the time. Again, it might be obvious to you how racism affects rich and accomplished black people as well but how would white people know without asking and listening. And like I said, these questions can be asked for the interview's sake, so Toni Morrison can talk about it. An interviewers job is not to know all the answers nor to be perfect but to ask the right questions, listen and guide the overall interview in a constructive way. She corrected him and he asked for the right question. Expecting white people or men to already know answers to questions that might be ignorant makes them afraid to even ask nowadays. I don't see a bad interviewer in this clip, you just don't seem to like him. And the sexual harassment is fucked up, that's probably why you don't like him. I don't either, doesn't really inform his behaviour here though.
@thestarseeker81962 жыл бұрын
Wow, was thinking about Ms. Morrison, came to see her speak, and find the kind of intellect in the comments you’d expect from the daily tabloid sort of uploads. People truly believing they’re on her level….astonishing. I have no regrets about ceasing to call myself American…the rest of the world will leave us behind and we deserve to be.
@lalouloune61562 жыл бұрын
It's not only America sadly, there's a whole system put in place to destroy people above all black that dare to have z' opinion or think differently. You have deep pos who are deeply disturbed with huge egos who make it a life mission to destroy others. I live in France and I am living the worse nightmare possible: torture, persecution, sabotaging for years... The thing is those empty vessels need to have a target, a black sheep that's how they think they will feel better about themselves but when you see and hear them you know the level of deep abyss. Anyway I just want help to get away and stay away. I can't anymore.
Пікірлер
She is an author not a social scientist.
I love this interview. It's a shame that he didn't get it, that it's about him too. Not "the others."
What year do these two think it is?
Was able to become successful in a society that her people have never created nor could. Sickening.
O boo Hoo
The destortion in the psyche had been encouraged and preserved by white based politics in usa
Mother love me keep me warm Mother loves me, keeps me warm, nurtures me, cares for me, and calms me through the storm. To help me mother, help your baby to be strong, nothing more. No Money, is A Mercy, can The Bluest Eye find a Rainbow a Home? For Frank and his Sister here's a poem. I love you, Mother, I thank you everyday, love me, keep me warm, nurture me, care for me, show me what is right and wrong. Your love has kept me, in the light, words that make a man cave bright. And when I go to her at night, she rocks me in my cradle, so I sleep tight. I love you Mother. I Thank you everyday. Mother loves me, keeps me warm, nurtures me, cares for me, and calms me through the storm. To help me Mother, help your baby, to be strong, nothing more. Thank you Toni, for I've been torn, and my mother left me in the storm. By Eddie Campagnola Edward Campagnola, "Directions to the Dumpster" & Pen name "One Directions to Mercy Street"
Black people have to hear her words and understand what she means and how profound it is, because blacks have been felling superior to other non-white people and what they have to put up with whites the rest of us have to put up with them.
She touches my heart…nourishes my spirit…
This is all too indefinite for me.
Wow, she is so soft spoken/well spoken at the same time. So classy. 👏🏻
I will give white people some free advice, Repent. Not all white people are racist, but all white people benefit from it. Let white people get in trouble, they will use their entitlement card every time.
furthermore white people have STOLEN so much from us and he asking her to give them something for free!
I love the way that The Queen Toni Morrison tells white people who they really are,
I love hearing her speak. Thank you Toni Morrison.❤
Thank you Toni Morrison.❤
Actually, Morrison has the problem with white people. And her awful, AWFUL prose.
White people's serious problem is black people ruining the civilization white people created. Notice how no one is flocking to black countries? I wonder why???
2:59
A bunch of white hating people in the comments what a surprise. How dare white people not listen to her rhetoric
THIS WAS A WHOLE READ!!!!!whewwww🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥😊😊😊😍🥰😍
" White People Have a Very Very Serious Problem". Sounds racist to me. Is she really referring to them as one entity, everyone the same?
No way she said living with AIDS is easier than living with racism. This is why I don't take these people seriously.
Toni Morrison’s genius rendered Charlie Rose silent. In all the years I watched his show, never saw that before or since.
It seems that many black people have a serious problem, especially in the USA. That problem is usually a massive resentment. Just as well Europeans don't have resentment against the myriad invaders and conquerors beginning with the Celts, the Romans, the Vikings and the Ottomans. They raped, pillaged took land and consumed the land.
So how do you feel ? Ukwazi xawuthe wavana nomntu , Ubana lanto Iphinde idike ? Ziphathe okwenene ngama xesha onke. Xandingena Mali / izinto zingasandi hambile kakhuhle , bangaphi abantu abangandibonela entweni ?
Absolutely BRILLANT, Absolutely POWERFUL, Thank you Toni!!!
Talk about black crime statistics and how every American city is a gutted, crime infested ghetto, then I'll get back to you, honey.
You're still missing the point, SMH. My friend, try not to deflect and become defensive against her words with shallow statistics. Listen to what she is addressing about individual racism. As for your statement, there are more white people in poverty and white on white crime because in numbers, there are more people who identify themselves as Caucasian or white. Take your emotional response out and address her statement without it if you want a real debate on it. Is that okay, sugar? 😂
Such a gangster human being I adore you.
Oh honey she drove that home !!!! Amen sister!!
O I thought is from Oprah...the show, I mean.
Yeah, but? White folks still got all the bread so who really has the problem.
black people have a serious problem, they can't get over the past.
Low hanging fruits of Caucasian society like yourself are constantly in your feelings. The Caucasian race has the most violent and bloody history of anybody on the planet. You mad pasty?
@@DavidBryant Only mad at the level of your ignorance, darky. Have a look at Asia, Koreans, Chinese etc. been brutalizing each other for thousands of years. That would require you to read some books though so nevermind.
BASED
i think she knew that Charlie was a total POS
1:23
THIS is what Whoopi was talking about.
I stand with her not my problem sir.
That's a great analysis on moral inferiority. What's left of the person when you take away someone's race or change their race? I guess that is also the best examination of racial privilege. Has a person only benefitted in life because of their identity with their race.
if you are black, perceptive, and intelligent...you are a god damn superhero...why black isnt better than white...but racism makes it to where blacks are better...god damn giving them superpowers
What are you blathering about?
Upon our passing and close to it we all will be judged based on were you harming others like mothers and children. We may be asked how did you treat the poor. Those questions will not be about race rather your own words and intent towards others no matter their race. There are deviant people in all races and there are ok people in all races.
💯
“If you’re only tall because someone else is on their knees..” 🤌🏾 I’ve said this in similar form for so very long.🤦🏾♂️ If you’re only good because every aspect of the game has been rigged in your favor, are you any good at all?
Most excellently and succinctly said. Its like crowning a boxing champ the best in the world but all their opponents fight blindfolded with one hand tied... but the world saying their the best boxer ever... ridiculous
@farrellcityking1
yt ppl dont compare their IQ to Indians and CHinese and d!ck size to blks.
Exactly 👏 👏 👏
Ok let's talk about it, maybe it would be solved if the black people would understand that it's the elite the rich and big corporations that took father's out of the homes and put drugs in the black communities and popularize harmful misleading music and information in your children's hands in order to keep the black population in poverty, not the average white person, even during slavery it was the rich mother fuckers not the average white person because they were to poor to own slaves in the first place, these rich elite and big corporations are misdirecting the anger and hatred they have caused in black communities down onto the lower class average white people through fake racism and misinformation through the media these schemes are so they don't have to face the consequences of their own actions, in other words your barking up the wrong tree, and should go after the elite.
This is a lie and you know it.
Her thinking is what every colored Republican supporter believes. It’s the Democrats and their logic they push to their minority supporters to believe they are inferior.
"defensive" racism is OK?????????????? rly?
She speaks in grossly racist generalizations. She needs to look at herself.
When Charlie said "being black is harder with living with Aids" Toni made a face - I wonder what she was thinking. Maybe she thought, "It's not the who has it worse Olympics," or maybe she thought, "My identity is not a disease". Maybe she thought something else entirely.
Did you miss where he was quoting someone else?
Pure Black brilliance. I listen to this all the time to keep myself motivated, as a white person. It's also a masterclass on how to handle irresponsible white male interviewers, and always return to moral clarity. "Of course I do, but let me tell you, that's not the right question." Btw what a pitiful job interviewing by Rose -- a 45 second question to ask the if she experiences racism as a successful Black person (obviously), talks over her to say that Black people are also racist, talks over her again to say that white people are the real victims of racism, and concludes by asking she her to give free advice. Why did anyone take this guy seriously.
Rose was terrible the whole time. It's best for us that his own actions got him out of here. I don't miss the ignorant questions and interruptions.
@@Auntkekebaby so true! I had literally never seen any of him until I saw this clip incidentally while searching for Toni Morrison, so I didn't realize how bad he was. Toni Morrison's brilliance and character were out of the league of so many of her white, often male, interviewers.
@@socute9248 it‘s like we‘re seeing two totally different men. The first question seemed ignorant to me, too, but he‘s a white person in the 80s or something, how would he know what it‘s like to be black. Ignorance isn’t bad in itself, the unwillingness to be educated is. He‘s asking after all and not making a statement about it. When she told him that it was the wrong question, he didn’t get defensive either. He just asked for the right one. He could also already know the answer but still ask for the interview‘s sake, many interviewers do that. Secondly, when he mentioned her father being racist he added to her statement and she agreed with him. She has always felt morally superior to racists and her parents did, too. He added that she once mentioned her father being racist as a result of feeling that way and she confirmed it and explains that a little further. It‘s clear to me that he didn‘t say or mean to say that black people are racist, too. When they talk about the victims of racism, he basically summed up what she was saying. She at first explained how distorted racists‘ worldviews and their perception of themselves and others is. She then asked who a racist person without the construct of race and racism really is, points out how small they really are and that racism effects white people maybe even just as negatively as black people because of that. She also refuses to be seen as a victim, as she should, and he goes on to say that the morally inferior person is the ‚real‘ victim of racism and that they hold on to it for their self esteem. She agrees with him again. He never said white people are the real victims of racism. That’s an important thing to point out because it shows how your opinion about white males impacts your ability to see him for what he is. He doesn’t talk over her, he inserted some statements, added to the conversation and guided the overall interview, as an interviewer should. Talking over somebody is meant to shut them up. He clearly didn’t do that. She explained in detail and he just listened for the most part. And when he asked for free advice, he had no malice in his voice or his face. He seemed to want that advice, which would be beneficial for black and white people. She was smart enough to refer to her book, no harm, no foul. Sometimes we project things on people who didn’t do anything wrong, I’m certainly guilty of that. But I’m also conscious of it and I accept that sometimes my perception of others is just skewed. Being a white male asking these questions doesn’t make him a bad guy. It makes him a human, trying to understand. Actually don’t know why I went out of my way to write all that, I think I hope it just might make you question what you believe to be true and reflect.
@@TheJosephjakob "The first question seemed ignorant to me, too, but he‘s a white person in the 80s or something, how would he know what it‘s like to be black." -- Dude, it's from 1993. It's not a different era. Also, he is not only a random white man -- he is a prominent journalist hosting a news show. His job is to be knowledgeable and ask good questions, and if he asks ignorant questions he is bad at his job. I am not asking all white men to be perfect, I am asking a well paid news anchor not be bad at his job. Btw this dude sexually harassed at least 35 women.
@@socute9248 the 90s are a totally different time, people were much more ignorant in general back then. People were much less educated about other peoples' experiences and his question made perfect sense at the time. Again, it might be obvious to you how racism affects rich and accomplished black people as well but how would white people know without asking and listening. And like I said, these questions can be asked for the interview's sake, so Toni Morrison can talk about it. An interviewers job is not to know all the answers nor to be perfect but to ask the right questions, listen and guide the overall interview in a constructive way. She corrected him and he asked for the right question. Expecting white people or men to already know answers to questions that might be ignorant makes them afraid to even ask nowadays. I don't see a bad interviewer in this clip, you just don't seem to like him. And the sexual harassment is fucked up, that's probably why you don't like him. I don't either, doesn't really inform his behaviour here though.
Wow, was thinking about Ms. Morrison, came to see her speak, and find the kind of intellect in the comments you’d expect from the daily tabloid sort of uploads. People truly believing they’re on her level….astonishing. I have no regrets about ceasing to call myself American…the rest of the world will leave us behind and we deserve to be.
It's not only America sadly, there's a whole system put in place to destroy people above all black that dare to have z' opinion or think differently. You have deep pos who are deeply disturbed with huge egos who make it a life mission to destroy others. I live in France and I am living the worse nightmare possible: torture, persecution, sabotaging for years... The thing is those empty vessels need to have a target, a black sheep that's how they think they will feel better about themselves but when you see and hear them you know the level of deep abyss. Anyway I just want help to get away and stay away. I can't anymore.