Study the Summa with Dave Palmer

Study the Summa with Dave Palmer

I'm here to help you study essential principles of Christian philosophy and theology based on the teachings of the Angelic Doctor, St. Thomas Aquinas, in his amazing Summa Theologica.

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  • @EuropeanQoheleth
    @EuropeanQoheleth8 сағат бұрын

    Well even Aquinas was wrong about a few things.

  • @thethomist
    @thethomist7 сағат бұрын

    Yes, St. Thomas definitely got some things wrong, like his teaching on the Immaculate Conception which was not yet a settled defined dogma. Whether he got this one wrong is open for a fun debate. God bless- Dave

  • @ash5033938337
    @ash50339383372 күн бұрын

    Fascinating

  • @764Kareltje
    @764Kareltje3 күн бұрын

    Christ was also forced to choose sides in His time on earth. On the one hand the pharisees tried to bait him into an endorsement of strict religious practices. But on the other hand many lower class followers believed in a revolution, that Christ should wield the sword, break all laws eternal and temporal, and establish a wordly kingdom. He told us instead to give to Caesar what is Caesar´s, and to do as the religious leader says, not as they do. And He warned that those who live by the sword shall die by the sword. Christ disappointed every worldy ambition by his actions and words. And despite all the vitriol and other sins of Erasmus´ pen, I think that in all his frailty he was brave to follow Christ by catering to neither party. Meanewhile many stronger and better men of the time have been lost to temptation.

  • @ash5033938337
    @ash50339383374 күн бұрын

    God is paradox

  • @brianwestad9642
    @brianwestad96425 күн бұрын

    I just found this series. I'm a little late, but I intend to watch these daily to gain understanding of this work. Thank you Dave for putting this together!

  • @thethomist
    @thethomist5 күн бұрын

    Hi Brian. Glad you found us. I've only recorded about 29 of the segments and there are many more to come so you found it soon enough. Let me know if you have any questions or insights. I'm learning while I teach and can learn a lot from the bright people who are following the videos. God bless- Dave

  • @terihepburn7233
    @terihepburn72332 күн бұрын

    I'll be joining Dave. I teach confirmation classes and what amazing questions to have the students ponder...yes im included in the pondering w them. As i learn. .thank you!

  • @thethomist
    @thethomist2 күн бұрын

    @@terihepburn7233 Teri, so happy that you're joining us for these videos. I hope you find studying the Summa helpful in your work in evangelization and your Confirmation classes. Let me know if you have any questions and your insights and comments are very welcome!

  • @christophernock8007
    @christophernock80075 күн бұрын

    Hi David would you call this merit congruent merit? Also what is the difference between congruent merit and Condign meit

  • @thethomist
    @thethomist5 күн бұрын

    Thanks for the question. The difference between those two has to do with whether or not there is an obligation for one to be rewarded for that which one does regarding merit. With congruent merit there is no obligation for a reward to be given for what is done but with condign there is an obligation. Of course, between us and God there is no strict obligation that He reward but with due to His Divine Ordination, He does so through His Goodness. Hope that helps.

  • @CRAEager
    @CRAEager6 күн бұрын

    Made it through treatise no. 1. What a beautiful question for our contemplation! Thank you, Dave; God bless.

  • @thethomist
    @thethomist5 күн бұрын

    Congrats on making it this far! You must mean Treatise 2 right? Because Treatise 1 is only one question on Sacred Doctrine! Treatise 2 is on the One God which ends with Question 26. Either way, congrats on getting this far and hope you keep going! God bless- Dave

  • @CRAEager
    @CRAEager5 күн бұрын

    @@thethomist Sorry, yes, I meant to say no. 2! Thanks for the reminder!

  • @JamesMC04
    @JamesMC046 күн бұрын

    As there are so many notions of power, and as things called powerful are very different: does that not mean that it is impossible for the concept of Divine Power to signify anything that the human intellect can grasp ? Ascribing all these attributes to God, & saying they do not signify what they signify when applied to creatures, has the effect of making God so remote from anything we are familiar with as to be unknowable. If power in God is not like anything that we know in creatures, it is impossible to know what (if anything) it is, as predicated of God. And, if God has not created the best possible universe - why not ? Whether or not one accepts Genesis 1-3 as in some sense historical, it does seem that God, if God really is Almighty & Infinitely Good, could have devised a better universe. Why did God not do so, if in the world to come there will be no evil or sin ? Conversely, if the angels can be free, in a renewed universe, from the danger of falling; why were they not all secured from falling when first created ? Christian eschatology raises some troubling questions about the coherence, reality & original goodness of creation.

  • @joekeegan937
    @joekeegan9376 күн бұрын

    Thank you.

  • @thethomist
    @thethomist6 күн бұрын

    You're welcome. Thanks for watching and for the feedback.

  • @ash5033938337
    @ash50339383377 күн бұрын

    I simply disagree. God can make anything that seems illogical to us logical, even 1+1=4. Fight me St. Thomas. I’m revoking you as my confirmation Saint (joking).

  • @thethomist
    @thethomist7 күн бұрын

    If it's a contradiction then God 'can't' do it.' Or as St. Thomas says, it's better to say it's not possible than to say God can't do it. Makes perfect sense to me. Ha ha on the Confirmation saint issue. Thanks for the comment.

  • @ash5033938337
    @ash50339383377 күн бұрын

    @@thethomist what do you think about the scripture, “all things are possible with God”? Do you think Saint Thomas would just say that those things aren’t things?

  • @thethomist
    @thethomist7 күн бұрын

    @@ash5033938337 Good question. I think St. Thomas would say that this means all possible things are possible with God. Not all things are possible due to the law of non-contradiction.

  • @KingdomIsNow
    @KingdomIsNow8 күн бұрын

    Type 'Dionysius The Areopagite On The Celestial Hierarchy' in Google Search. He has a comprehensive study on the doctrine of angelology. It is also free to download on a few websites. It is quite an amazing revelation. Dionysius also explains how each angelic rank interacts and how they teach each other. Dionysius is in Acts 17:34. He was a judge in Athens. He converted to Jesus Christ when he heard the Apostle Paul preach, and also he studied under Paul. This means that his teachings are true and safe. Dionysius was appointed as the first Bishop of Athens by Apostle Paul.

  • @CRAEager
    @CRAEager8 күн бұрын

    Very good explication! Not sure I accept it, but you were wonderfully clear. Thank you. God bless!

  • @thethomist
    @thethomist8 күн бұрын

    Yes, it's a challenging lesson for sure, and hard to grasp. Thanks for the comment.

  • @CRAEager
    @CRAEager8 күн бұрын

    This one in particular is really helpful. Thank you!

  • @thethomist
    @thethomist8 күн бұрын

    Thanks for the feedback. Yes, it's quite interesting to see how STA explains these two together and their connection. God bless- Dave

  • @tiagoviana5161
    @tiagoviana51619 күн бұрын

    Great video 👍

  • @tiagoviana5161
    @tiagoviana51619 күн бұрын

    I recommend reading Fr. Garrigou Lagrange's book on Predestination for a Thomistic understanding of the subject

  • @thethomist
    @thethomist9 күн бұрын

    Thank you for this recommendation. I would like to get his perspective on this fascinating topic.

  • @DekemaStokes
    @DekemaStokes6 күн бұрын

    John Calvin didn’t believe in double predestination scholastic answer a catholic KZreadr and redeem zoomer notes this Thomas and Calvin agree on that point it’s just Calvin comes from a perspective of divine sovereignty and Thomas from divine providence I love both Calvin and Thomas I’m a Calvinist Protestant but I love and appreciate st Thomas

  • @thethomist
    @thethomist6 күн бұрын

    @@DekemaStokes Thank you for the comment and info. Did Calvin believe in free will?

  • @DekemaStokes
    @DekemaStokes6 күн бұрын

    @@thethomist great question sir I Honestly don’t think he did I think he believed in the will but it’s deprived of freedom of choice something of a enslavement but I’m not 100% sure I do have to do more research on his perspective of it tho I like St Thomas take on free will regardless of what I heard so far from Calvin I think St Thomas got it right and his interpretation of Augustine

  • @thethomist
    @thethomist5 күн бұрын

    @@DekemaStokes Thank you. That is my understanding as well but I've always thought of Calvin as a Double Predestination believer. if there is a heaven and hell and some go to both places and there is no free will it seems to set up a scenario for Double, wouldn't you think? Thanks for the conversation. Very interesting.

  • @BronxCat
    @BronxCat9 күн бұрын

    Thank you

  • @aisthpaoitht
    @aisthpaoitht12 күн бұрын

    I love the DM message, but i am very skeptical of private revelation.

  • @thethomist
    @thethomist11 күн бұрын

    Thanks for the comment. It's ok to be skeptical of private revelations and we don't have to accept them. The Church doesn't mandate any belief in private revelations. God bless- Dave

  • @ash5033938337
    @ash503393833712 күн бұрын

    This channel is a God-send for me sir, thanks! ❤

  • @tracypileski7190
    @tracypileski719012 күн бұрын

    Question ✋🏻. Does St Thomas answer how God came into being ? Where did God come from? Or is it always a mystery and just trust

  • @thethomist
    @thethomist12 күн бұрын

    Hi Tracy. Yes, St. Thomas certainly addresses this with his teaching on 2nd proof for God's existence (2nd question of the Summa). He identifies God as the Uncaused Cause which means is Eternal (one of His attributes) which means God has no beginning and no end. He is existence itself. It's a hard teaching for us to get our heads around due to the limitations of our nature but this is the teaching. Hope that helps.

  • @nja1076
    @nja107612 күн бұрын

    You said "we know you know how disastrous that's been to to Christianity" in relation to the Reformation. Please explain. Thanks

  • @thethomist
    @thethomist12 күн бұрын

    With regard to the Protestant Reformation, it divided the Church up into tens of thousands of denominations which goes against Jesus' prayer for unity, that 'they may be one.' (from the gospel of St. John). Hope this helps. God bless and thanks for the question.

  • @josezarraga9474
    @josezarraga947412 күн бұрын

    thanks for your amazing videos!!!

  • @thethomist
    @thethomist12 күн бұрын

    You're welcome. I'm glad you're enjoying them. I appreciate the feedback and encouragement. God bless you- Dave

  • @M0ONCommander
    @M0ONCommander13 күн бұрын

    ah, i think i have a faint idea of what St. Aquinas might be alluding to with the intellect not knowing what a thing is. in his commentary on the Gospel of John, he makes mention on the way the intellect divides things by an interior and exterior word. the exterior word being the vocal sound, and the interior word being the intellectual expression that allows the sound of the exterior to have meaning. "an interior word which the one understanding forms when understanding [...] it is compared to the intellect, not as that by which the intellect understands, but as that in which it understands, because it is in what is thus expressed and formed that it sees the nature of the thing understood". He also mentions that "a word is always a notion (ratio) and likeness of the thing understood." I feel it would be something along the lines of arriving at a notion after having investigated, and arriving at a word in the hopes that it would align with the truth, but still not knowing the true essence of the thing. Whereas in the case of God, St. Aquinas argues, cogitation is not required as a preliminary step because the word of God is both an intellectual and acting word. It being able to create implies a knowledge on the essence of things and the forms they take, and thus, no notion is required for them to embody their meaning. The divine word itself being the notion of the things. Whereas our intellect understands the exterior world as a concept in our mind, made up of many different interior words which make an approximation of what something is, but never actually apprehend its true essence. But maybe it's a bit of an offshoot, but hope I could make some sense with words. I'm still very green on this philosophy stuff

  • @tracypileski7190
    @tracypileski719014 күн бұрын

    Thank you for the dummies version for me 😂❤😂

  • @thethomist
    @thethomist14 күн бұрын

    Ha ha. I try to simplify it as much as possible but I don't consider anyone who studies the Summa to be a 'dummie!' Glad you're learning! God bless- Dave

  • @theresakahn2867
    @theresakahn286716 күн бұрын

    Hello, where can you find the encyclicala?

  • @thethomist
    @thethomist14 күн бұрын

    Just look up Aeterni Patris by Pope Leo XIII on line and it will pop up. It's also at the beginning of most versions of the Summa that one buys. It's a very good read and should be read before one begins studying the Summa, in my opinion. God bless- Dave

  • @CRAEager
    @CRAEager17 күн бұрын

    A day late, but I made it! Thanks as always for the useful summary. God bless!

  • @thethomist
    @thethomist14 күн бұрын

    Congrats! Glad to be on the journey with you!

  • @tiagoviana5161
    @tiagoviana516118 күн бұрын

    Very good video! I am watching all of them from the first one. As for article 12, I also had some questions, and so I sought Cardinal Cajetan's commentary on it to elucidate it, maybe it will be clearer for you too: The title is clear. - Three jobs are done in the article: (1) he answers the question overall; (2) he answers it for sight-knowledge in particular; (3) he gives a reason for both conclusions. ii. As to job (1), the answer for God's overall knowledge is: He knows infinitely many items. - The support goes thus. God knows all things in actuality plus all those in His power or a creature's power to make; so He knows infinitely many. The inference is obvious, because the items involved are admittedly infinite in multitude. iii. As to job (2), whether His sight-knowledge covers infinitely much, Aquinas says two things. (a) He rehearses a negative opinion along with what makes it plausible. Generation is not going on forever, either in the past or in the future; so only finitely many things are, will be, or have been; hence God's sight-knowledge does not cover infinitely much. - (b) He refutes this opinion and supports an affirmative conclusion. The count of rational creatures' thoughts and affections will go on rising forever; so God's sight-knowledge covers infinitely many items. Thus the first opinion did not take into account every kind of coming-to-be, but only the kind dependent on the motion of the heavens; that is why it went wrong.¹ iv. As to job (3), a causal factor is assigned to explain how God knows infinitely many items with His overall knowing and with His sight-knowledge, as follows. [Antecedent:] The extent of someone's knowing is set by how much the form at the source of the knowing represents; [1st inference:] so the extent of God's knowing is set by how much His essence represents; [2nd inference:] so God's knowing extends to infinitely many items, even as they are distinct from one another. Thus the supporting argument both establishes that God knows so much and explains why. The antecedent is supported case-by-case, beginning with sense-knowing and sense-images, then going to intellectual knowing and intensional forms, as found in us. In a sense-power, the image represents numerically one thing, no more; and so the sense-knowing extends likewise. In our intellect, an intensional form manages to represent a form-wise one [i.e. one nature], in which infinitely many cases potentially share; and so our intellectual knowing extends likewise. - The first inference is supported on the ground that God's essence is the "form" through which the divine intellect understands. - The second inference rests on the ground that God's essence succeeds in representing all the things that are or can be, not only in shared factors but also in those unique to each, as already said.

  • @thethomist
    @thethomist18 күн бұрын

    Thank you very much for all of this information. I will review and I know it will shed some light on the parts that were confusing me. Glad you're along for the Summa journey. I appreciate your feedback as I'm constantly learning new insights from the Summa. God bless you- Dave

  • @SanTiago-ki2km
    @SanTiago-ki2km18 күн бұрын

    Great!

  • @thethomist
    @thethomist18 күн бұрын

    Thank you. God bless- Dave

  • @michaelagapito7203
    @michaelagapito720318 күн бұрын

    Love these so far. Thanks!

  • @thethomist
    @thethomist18 күн бұрын

    It keeps getting better! St. Thomas orders the Summa so wonderfully! God bless- Dave

  • @davidporter7204
    @davidporter720420 күн бұрын

    Thank you, Dave, I thought you were clear and understandable but I may have to watch this one more than once to grasp it for myself. God bless you and please keep going. David (Ireland)

  • @thethomist
    @thethomist20 күн бұрын

    Hi David, great that you're watching from Ireland. i was there for two weeks this summer as my wife is a native of Belfast. Such a gorgeous country. I've been blessed to visit about eight times, including for our wedding in Northern Ireland (County Derry). Yes, if a second watch of the video helps, go for it! Glad you're journeying through the Summa with me and the others. God bless you- Dave

  • @CRAEager
    @CRAEager20 күн бұрын

    I thought you were admirably clear. I don't necessarily understand everything, but I also do not expect to understand everything at this stage. I just want to stick with it and gradually put everything together. Rome wasn't built in a day! Keep up the good work and God bless.

  • @thethomist
    @thethomist20 күн бұрын

    Yes, you're so right. The fatal flaw in studying the Summa is trying to understand it all especially on the first pass. The first time I read the Summa I was very easy on myself and just enjoyed learning a little bit here and there and eventually things start clicking. You're right on track! God bless- Dave

  • @mili3212
    @mili321221 күн бұрын

    Im someone who has no faith but I’m very interested in reading the Summa and these videos are excellent!

  • @thethomist
    @thethomist21 күн бұрын

    Oh, thanks for letting me know you're watching them and I hope that these teachings, guided by the Holy Spirit, will help you to belief that there is truly a God who loves you and is guiding all things through His providence. Please keep in touch and let me know your thoughts. God bless you on your journey. - Dave

  • @mili3212
    @mili321218 күн бұрын

    @@thethomist Wow, thank you for your kind words. I have been an atheist all my life, to the point of arrogance and thinking that I definitely had the answer. However, I've recently been questioning my own beliefs and trying to substantially engage with material that I've never read before. I've also been struggling personally in life but a part of my arrogance is that if I believe, I want to actually believe. I don't want to do it out of vulnerability and brokenness, I feel like I owe that much. So I'm reading and watching as much as I can. If you have any materials you would recommend, I'd be grateful and happy to take a look! I just read Tolstoy's A Confession, and I'm going to start Augustine's Confessions.

  • @micahgmiranda
    @micahgmiranda22 күн бұрын

    "Totally chaotic and totally nutty" lol Christian's always have to sell you the disease so they can sell you the cure.

  • @joeymad777
    @joeymad77724 күн бұрын

    Still here! Enjoying it so far, what version of the summa would you recommend?

  • @thethomist
    @thethomist24 күн бұрын

    Glad you're enjoying learning the Summa. Thanks for the feedback. I recommend this version which is the one I use when I want to actually read it as a physical copy www.amazon.com/Summa-Theologica-Thomas-Aquinas-Volumes/dp/0870610635/ref=sr_1_1?crid=12IDTMUZT7JIS&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.ZwVp7_4AboOXcjDaDQfIvAhsOBVvo5f24_ZitKYH-KVD2bw08W_vEEd01__avq9XpaDpkXSXjHts9OhP2Rv0w3u2-pNaKlKJ-9_4fKXOl4dvdLmv8wKk7qu6_AzymuEARToIuYSz_Q-6ufQa-XBwddJJ-ACIiLRdFWH5ZeSuWHY3qTcGVhrMwg-gPHAOn5kOxWK3OLGvpH7GSk-Oilv8PiJZ6sx9HSjOZ3OqEg00DX4.PsADF1Ul9lk_y_6R-yU8LwHngtl5oExU9DBSBk8q2X8&dib_tag=se&keywords=summa+theologica+thomas+aquinas&qid=1720626958&sprefix=Summa+Theologica%2Caps%2C155&sr=8-1

  • @thethomist
    @thethomist24 күн бұрын

    You can also find it free on line. I use the on line version when preparing my videos so I can print it out and write on the copy, etc. God bless- Dave

  • @cosmicnomad8575
    @cosmicnomad857525 күн бұрын

    Aquinas, Augustine, and Plato win negative diff

  • @CRAEager
    @CRAEager25 күн бұрын

    I've made it too! Thank you, yours is a useful overview of what we can safely say is a fairly long and difficult book. God bless!

  • @thethomist
    @thethomist25 күн бұрын

    Congrats! Well done! Glad you're journeying with us!

  • @suzihixon3998
    @suzihixon399825 күн бұрын

    This is complex stuff but you’re a good teacher. Just starting to dig in!

  • @thethomist
    @thethomist25 күн бұрын

    Yes, it can be a bit complicated in places but congrats in digging in! Let me know if you have any questions as we journey through it!

  • @fotisvon9943
    @fotisvon994325 күн бұрын

    if God is infinite and hell exists (as the separation from God) how then is God infinite? Since God will not be in hell yet God is infinite.

  • @thethomist
    @thethomist25 күн бұрын

    Good question. The next question I will tackle will be about God's existence in things (and places) so I will address this in the next video. God bless and journey on!

  • @BronxCat
    @BronxCat25 күн бұрын

    😊❤

  • @fotisvon9943
    @fotisvon994325 күн бұрын

    i've made it 🎉

  • @thethomist
    @thethomist25 күн бұрын

    Congrats! Keep going! Hope you're enjoying it.

  • @pierrebassel2109
    @pierrebassel210926 күн бұрын

    Martin Luther wasn't a nominalist, watch dr.jordan cooper's video refuting your false claim

  • @thethomist
    @thethomist26 күн бұрын

    Many would disagree with Dr. Peterson's opinion on this. I will do my research and see if in fact I gave a false claim.

  • @pierrebassel2109
    @pierrebassel210926 күн бұрын

    @@thethomist Many can disagree as they will, he spoke with historical evidence.

  • @tiagoviana5161
    @tiagoviana516126 күн бұрын

    Based

  • @thethomist
    @thethomist26 күн бұрын

    Thankyou for the feedback. God bless you.

  • @fotisvon9943
    @fotisvon994327 күн бұрын

    thank you

  • @thethomist
    @thethomist26 күн бұрын

    You're welcome. Thanks for the comment and encouragement.

  • @Stupidityindex
    @Stupidityindex27 күн бұрын

    Question: How can you possibly take faith seriously? How can anyone in their right mind ask others to believe in the existence of a Deity who makes Mormons so Christians will know how Jews feel, having had their literature hijacked. Nothing fails like prayers in a children's hospital & indoctrinating children is criminal. The faith vocabulary causes the user to be avoided like the old woman with too many cats. Faith "comes not with peace, but sword." Faith comes with wolves dressed as sheep & preaching to the choir. Faith trades the last cow for a pocketful of magic beans & then expects everyone's appreciation. Jesus said, it is a wicked generations which seeks signs such as resurrection. Faith is as worthless as fantasyland magic, since you can't tell mountains to move. The only sign in reality is Jonah: A believer murdered by other believers because he is outnumbered. The context is Jesus seeing a gathering crowd.

  • @donttakeitpersonal8704
    @donttakeitpersonal870428 күн бұрын

    How can you be man and God on the same time? Doesnt this contradict?

  • @thethomist
    @thethomist28 күн бұрын

    The hypostatic union means a single person with two natures- Divine and human. Jesus is a divine person with both divine and human natures. Ultimately, it's a mystery. thanks for the question.

  • @samfawlia
    @samfawlia29 күн бұрын

    people are saying it's because writing is a cursed medium

  • @thethomist
    @thethomist27 күн бұрын

    Interesting perspective. I'm not sure what they mean by that. Please explain.

  • @alexsalazar8451
    @alexsalazar845129 күн бұрын

    I strongly agree with having a new perspective on life with the learning of the Summa. Good bless you for your dedication!

  • @thethomist
    @thethomist29 күн бұрын

    Thanks for the comment. So has the Summa had that impact on you as well? I'd love to hear your story. Let me know how specifically studying the summa has blessed you. God bless- Dave

  • @alexsalazar8451
    @alexsalazar845128 күн бұрын

    Studying the Summa in the seminary was such a beautiful experience. Being hard headed as I am I had to re-read everything several times. But this was a blessing as those study periods became a prayer - both study and prayer! Here I also learned that the Summa cannot be studies as any ordinary science; it is to be studies in the grace of God the Good Teacher. My favorite was the topic of the governance of God (grew in Trust) and the these first few question. I love your joy and enthusiasm for the Summa and the Angelic Doctor. Keep up the good work, you are in my prayers!

  • @thethomist
    @thethomist28 күн бұрын

    @@alexsalazar8451 Thank you and God bless you. I appreciate your comments and encouragement.

  • @fotisvon9943
    @fotisvon9943Ай бұрын

    how many videos/days will this project be?

  • @thethomist
    @thethomistАй бұрын

    The Summa has a little over 600 questions so if I did one a day that would take nearly 2 years! I'm taking it day by day and it might make sense to group some questions at some point but either way it's going to take a while.... glad you're interested and thank you for the feedback.

  • @fotisvon9943
    @fotisvon9943Ай бұрын

    im very interested in this project

  • @michaelagapito7203
    @michaelagapito7203Ай бұрын

    Thank you for doing this series.

  • @thethomist
    @thethomistАй бұрын

    You're welcome, Michael. Thanks for being in touch. God bless you and I hope the series draws you closer to Jesus.

  • @joeymad777
    @joeymad777Ай бұрын

    You always have great content, can you turn up the volume however?

  • @thethomist
    @thethomistАй бұрын

    Thanks for the feedback. Yes, I can certainly do that. God bless you.