Thanks for this! I am having this exact problem, on a similar Pentair system. Gonna check that union ring tomorrow when I have some light to work with.
@shannonc.981728 күн бұрын
This was SO incredibly helpful. I've watched a lot of KZread videos trying to troubleshoot this problem and this was by far the most helpful and informative. I feel totally empowered to solve the problem now. Thank you!
@barneyemberton761Ай бұрын
Very nicely done. Thank you!
@GreatestvoiceseverАй бұрын
Can these leaks cause a big suction loss ?
@ringoliverpond965Ай бұрын
That suction side 3way can draw air as well, a bad glue joint, crack in housing, crack in lid, leak at the seal plate or even a loose drain plug on the wet end. FYI.
@Saverio34Ай бұрын
If you live in a warmer climate year round, a fiberglass is the way to go. If you live in an area where you experience all four seasons, you should do the vinyl liner pool for they are equipped to handle the harshness of winter way better than a fiberglass. It all depends on how well you maintain and take care of your pool chemistry that will determine the life of your liner. It could 15+ years before you change it.
@ronaldkammeyer9143Ай бұрын
Very informative minus one thing else to consider that I just experienced. In Jason's video you can see there is a 3-way valve on the suction side of the pump where the skimmer and main come together prior to the pump. Typically (as is with mine) it is a PENTAIR 263028 3-way diverter valve. Inside that valve there are three o-rings. One of these can be missing, torn or worn and will allow air into the system stopping the pump from priming let a lone operate normally cycling water through the filter. I bought an o-ring kit for my valve on AMAZON for $7.53. I can use a tool without harm to myself so I made the simple o-ring replacement myself. If you decide to DIY, then be aware of the valve position when you disassemble it and use proper o-ring lubrication. Otherwise the o-ring will just deteriorate and you will be back at square one.
@user-hy9cc9yb9gАй бұрын
great.video BUT FORGOT TO MENTION IF.YOUR PRESSURE GAUGE IS BAD IT.WILL CAUSE SURGING AND AIR BUBBLES I THE.RETURN LINE.USUALLY PRESSURE GAUGE ONLY GOOD FOR.1.YEAR.
@ja-son4392 ай бұрын
Do you use 3m 5200 silicone?
@vanzantd88503 ай бұрын
How do you handle ledges on the fiberglass pools? It seems with these big ledges they have sag, even to the point where when the pool is arriving on the truck you can see twists and obscure areas of the pool even before installation.
@lovelyfulllife3 ай бұрын
Very helpful! Tks a lot
@MrGoFrankie3 ай бұрын
Great video. Thanks for sharing!!!
@JesterAvali3 ай бұрын
This helped me fix mine! Thank you!
@ryanwelder53794 ай бұрын
I know im 11 years late but is the concrete sloped towards the retaining wall?
@chriseneim14 ай бұрын
Might want to check the chemicals because that water is cloudy
@michaelhusselbee2087Ай бұрын
He'll need a time machine.
@jasonnaparalla51425 ай бұрын
Thank you for this. I have this issue, but ONLY when I turn the junction valve to my vacuum line. I took my pool vacuum out of the equation. What could be the issue?
@JamesStenchmeyer-uj8rd6 ай бұрын
How about the short horizontal run to the pump? Pipe diameter x 5” minimum
@arod80226 ай бұрын
Thank you for the education on pool filtering.
@Sky360Phoenix8 ай бұрын
The other thing is the actual pool cleaner. I have a zodiac "robotic" cleaner. The issue that no one mentions is that they have a tendency to climb too far up the walls whilst cleaning and therefore suck in air from above the water line.
@bobmason56098 ай бұрын
Jason so pouring concrete deck over top the gunite bond beam and up to the form attached to the tile.. I understand there needs to be a separation of the deck and the top of the gunite shell so when the deck moves it doesn’t take the tile with it? How is this accomplished? Thank you hope to hear back from you
@woodworkerroyer84978 ай бұрын
Ok. So how do you keep the handle secured? What if its loose, or it has a little wobble? What do you do if its secured in the bottom of the pool and both the anchor points are loose?
@LJRamos1118 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info, problem solved. Bad seal
@Frenojan007rr8 ай бұрын
My pool is old and does not have those return jets, just some old 1” pipe with no thread
@michaelabdullah51479 ай бұрын
Clear concise and effective . Thanks
@Anonymous-zv9hk10 ай бұрын
Many recommend silicone-based grease on gaskets and seal rings, such as at the union you fixed, and on the O-ring under the lid of the screw-on top of the pump basket, and on any screw-in drain plugs that might have loosened or which don't have a separate o-ring and depend on the grease for a good seal. Thanks for a really great video; it is still the best after being made and posted 14 years ago.
@gerardsmith524710 ай бұрын
Thank you, you really made it easy
@tulio357111 ай бұрын
Hi there , could it be the gaskets on the pump between housing? Thanks
@gerardvandijk117311 ай бұрын
The unit heats up fast and is super quiet. It looks fancy kzread.infoUgkxl8Od2BvnGbn1ffwqsuFXW0QnmcZgMiVY and can be kept in the living room. It gets hot within a split second of turning on the unit. The build quality is exceptionally good and is safe to be around kids and pets. This one is super quiet and can be kept on while in office meetings, my wife loved it. It shows the temperature right on the unit which is very useful and adding a rotating feature helps to heat up the surrounding, so other people will not fight with you for heat. It is right as described in the description..!! Definitely recommend!!
@mfolson8111 ай бұрын
Another way to check where the air leak may be is to run water from your garden hose over each connection for like 30 seconds and if the air bubbles disappear that tells you where the leak is.
@mfolson8111 ай бұрын
Great vid, I might add to check the weir doors to verify a leaf isn't stuck in there keeping it from operating correctly...its happened to me and it stopped water from flowing into the skimmer correctly which caused it to suck some air.
@HoustonRoad11 ай бұрын
Do you need to prep the surface ie sanding the fiberglass or just clean and install? Thanks for the video
@2018tundra11 ай бұрын
Haw much
@olivasaz11 ай бұрын
I am currently dealing with cavitation on the same pump you have. I will try checking the tail ring O-ring as I have already replaced the lid ring. If it is a suction side leak how do they determine that? Wouldn't I see water coming out of the ground? Thank you!
@Fred_Durst13 ай бұрын
no. on the suction side, it would only bring air in.
@bikemike1700 Жыл бұрын
What brand is this return and how do you remove the eyeball? I'm used to Hayward and my new pool is very different.
@user-xg5pf8fk8m Жыл бұрын
Thank you! This was just what we needed to fix our bubbles that were coming from the pool motor basket!
@sharranclay8341 Жыл бұрын
We have a new USA Crystal Clear 425 filter cartridge setup. It works amazing but has a slight fog horn sound that happens about every 15 seconds when on. Is this an air problem?
@hollyhilllangston574 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I believe i am missing a washer and not losing my mind. You ladies rock. I hope home depot or ealmart has a proper piece available
@wallydesouza1 Жыл бұрын
Man. I have bubble. Pressure test was done. No leak. Replaced pump gasket. I’m not losing any water. Don’t know what else to do. I’m going to re check the union and lube that gasket tomorrow. Only thing left
@slipstreamvids7422 Жыл бұрын
I’ve just discovered recently that if I intentionally allow air into the pump stream it infuses oxygen into the pool.. This infusion greatly reduces the need for oxidizing chemicals as the oxygen takes the place of them. It will also allow you to reduce alkalinity without affecting ph. I only do it sporadically by loosening the pump basket filter lid slightly and allowing outside air to be drawn into the stream where the velocity is the highest. You have to keep an eye on it because if the pump shuts off it will leak water.
@richardhuegill2717 Жыл бұрын
Thanks helped heaps 👍
@bmanz8117 Жыл бұрын
Illuminate most of those bench areas, also we care only about swim space. How much? In Florida we see alot of expensive oversized bath tubs.
@bmanz8117 Жыл бұрын
Why can someone buy a fiberglass shell fir under $25,000 uet cists from pool companies are exceeding $50,000, some installs as high as $90,000?
@bmanz8117 Жыл бұрын
How do folks relax after paying the outlandish costs of these pools?
@bmanz8117 Жыл бұрын
How much for a pool like this.
@effthegop Жыл бұрын
I fought with my pool for the entire 10 plus years I lived at that house. Old property and the pool was probably built in the mid 50's. The bubbles were ever present an after a few days, the pump wouldn't move water. Some kind of air lock thing. I could usually backwash and get it going again. I understand the mechanics and knew the bubbles were coming from the suction side somewhere. The pool vac hoses were constantly failing as was the head of the unit. The n the old black bottomed skimmer was suspect so it was replaced and. It worked for a while. I replaced all the old black plastic pipes that I could get to. That helped for a while. The longest I was ever able to keep it going smoothly was a few weeks. It was my hobby and my nemesis for far too long..
@user-mj2ie1rn2w Жыл бұрын
Saved my day and learned a great deal bought a new home previous owner had skimmer turned off to sell the house found it was slightly clogged! You the man!
@robertdaymouse3784 Жыл бұрын
Good video. But your claim that an air leak prior the pump intake is the #1 cause of bubbles could not possibly be correct. It is only your observation that it is the #1 cause because most people intuitively know to check the water level and strainer pot lid before calling a pool technician to diagnose the problem.
@kevinbriggs2611 Жыл бұрын
Looks great but how do you remove the wire that is wrapped around the screw afterward?
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That was it! It was the intake seal! Thanks!
Thanks for this! I am having this exact problem, on a similar Pentair system. Gonna check that union ring tomorrow when I have some light to work with.
This was SO incredibly helpful. I've watched a lot of KZread videos trying to troubleshoot this problem and this was by far the most helpful and informative. I feel totally empowered to solve the problem now. Thank you!
Very nicely done. Thank you!
Can these leaks cause a big suction loss ?
That suction side 3way can draw air as well, a bad glue joint, crack in housing, crack in lid, leak at the seal plate or even a loose drain plug on the wet end. FYI.
If you live in a warmer climate year round, a fiberglass is the way to go. If you live in an area where you experience all four seasons, you should do the vinyl liner pool for they are equipped to handle the harshness of winter way better than a fiberglass. It all depends on how well you maintain and take care of your pool chemistry that will determine the life of your liner. It could 15+ years before you change it.
Very informative minus one thing else to consider that I just experienced. In Jason's video you can see there is a 3-way valve on the suction side of the pump where the skimmer and main come together prior to the pump. Typically (as is with mine) it is a PENTAIR 263028 3-way diverter valve. Inside that valve there are three o-rings. One of these can be missing, torn or worn and will allow air into the system stopping the pump from priming let a lone operate normally cycling water through the filter. I bought an o-ring kit for my valve on AMAZON for $7.53. I can use a tool without harm to myself so I made the simple o-ring replacement myself. If you decide to DIY, then be aware of the valve position when you disassemble it and use proper o-ring lubrication. Otherwise the o-ring will just deteriorate and you will be back at square one.
great.video BUT FORGOT TO MENTION IF.YOUR PRESSURE GAUGE IS BAD IT.WILL CAUSE SURGING AND AIR BUBBLES I THE.RETURN LINE.USUALLY PRESSURE GAUGE ONLY GOOD FOR.1.YEAR.
Do you use 3m 5200 silicone?
How do you handle ledges on the fiberglass pools? It seems with these big ledges they have sag, even to the point where when the pool is arriving on the truck you can see twists and obscure areas of the pool even before installation.
Very helpful! Tks a lot
Great video. Thanks for sharing!!!
This helped me fix mine! Thank you!
I know im 11 years late but is the concrete sloped towards the retaining wall?
Might want to check the chemicals because that water is cloudy
He'll need a time machine.
Thank you for this. I have this issue, but ONLY when I turn the junction valve to my vacuum line. I took my pool vacuum out of the equation. What could be the issue?
How about the short horizontal run to the pump? Pipe diameter x 5” minimum
Thank you for the education on pool filtering.
The other thing is the actual pool cleaner. I have a zodiac "robotic" cleaner. The issue that no one mentions is that they have a tendency to climb too far up the walls whilst cleaning and therefore suck in air from above the water line.
Jason so pouring concrete deck over top the gunite bond beam and up to the form attached to the tile.. I understand there needs to be a separation of the deck and the top of the gunite shell so when the deck moves it doesn’t take the tile with it? How is this accomplished? Thank you hope to hear back from you
Ok. So how do you keep the handle secured? What if its loose, or it has a little wobble? What do you do if its secured in the bottom of the pool and both the anchor points are loose?
Thanks for the info, problem solved. Bad seal
My pool is old and does not have those return jets, just some old 1” pipe with no thread
Clear concise and effective . Thanks
Many recommend silicone-based grease on gaskets and seal rings, such as at the union you fixed, and on the O-ring under the lid of the screw-on top of the pump basket, and on any screw-in drain plugs that might have loosened or which don't have a separate o-ring and depend on the grease for a good seal. Thanks for a really great video; it is still the best after being made and posted 14 years ago.
Thank you, you really made it easy
Hi there , could it be the gaskets on the pump between housing? Thanks
The unit heats up fast and is super quiet. It looks fancy kzread.infoUgkxl8Od2BvnGbn1ffwqsuFXW0QnmcZgMiVY and can be kept in the living room. It gets hot within a split second of turning on the unit. The build quality is exceptionally good and is safe to be around kids and pets. This one is super quiet and can be kept on while in office meetings, my wife loved it. It shows the temperature right on the unit which is very useful and adding a rotating feature helps to heat up the surrounding, so other people will not fight with you for heat. It is right as described in the description..!! Definitely recommend!!
Another way to check where the air leak may be is to run water from your garden hose over each connection for like 30 seconds and if the air bubbles disappear that tells you where the leak is.
Great vid, I might add to check the weir doors to verify a leaf isn't stuck in there keeping it from operating correctly...its happened to me and it stopped water from flowing into the skimmer correctly which caused it to suck some air.
Do you need to prep the surface ie sanding the fiberglass or just clean and install? Thanks for the video
Haw much
I am currently dealing with cavitation on the same pump you have. I will try checking the tail ring O-ring as I have already replaced the lid ring. If it is a suction side leak how do they determine that? Wouldn't I see water coming out of the ground? Thank you!
no. on the suction side, it would only bring air in.
What brand is this return and how do you remove the eyeball? I'm used to Hayward and my new pool is very different.
Thank you! This was just what we needed to fix our bubbles that were coming from the pool motor basket!
We have a new USA Crystal Clear 425 filter cartridge setup. It works amazing but has a slight fog horn sound that happens about every 15 seconds when on. Is this an air problem?
Thank you. I believe i am missing a washer and not losing my mind. You ladies rock. I hope home depot or ealmart has a proper piece available
Man. I have bubble. Pressure test was done. No leak. Replaced pump gasket. I’m not losing any water. Don’t know what else to do. I’m going to re check the union and lube that gasket tomorrow. Only thing left
I’ve just discovered recently that if I intentionally allow air into the pump stream it infuses oxygen into the pool.. This infusion greatly reduces the need for oxidizing chemicals as the oxygen takes the place of them. It will also allow you to reduce alkalinity without affecting ph. I only do it sporadically by loosening the pump basket filter lid slightly and allowing outside air to be drawn into the stream where the velocity is the highest. You have to keep an eye on it because if the pump shuts off it will leak water.
Thanks helped heaps 👍
Illuminate most of those bench areas, also we care only about swim space. How much? In Florida we see alot of expensive oversized bath tubs.
Why can someone buy a fiberglass shell fir under $25,000 uet cists from pool companies are exceeding $50,000, some installs as high as $90,000?
How do folks relax after paying the outlandish costs of these pools?
How much for a pool like this.
I fought with my pool for the entire 10 plus years I lived at that house. Old property and the pool was probably built in the mid 50's. The bubbles were ever present an after a few days, the pump wouldn't move water. Some kind of air lock thing. I could usually backwash and get it going again. I understand the mechanics and knew the bubbles were coming from the suction side somewhere. The pool vac hoses were constantly failing as was the head of the unit. The n the old black bottomed skimmer was suspect so it was replaced and. It worked for a while. I replaced all the old black plastic pipes that I could get to. That helped for a while. The longest I was ever able to keep it going smoothly was a few weeks. It was my hobby and my nemesis for far too long..
Saved my day and learned a great deal bought a new home previous owner had skimmer turned off to sell the house found it was slightly clogged! You the man!
Good video. But your claim that an air leak prior the pump intake is the #1 cause of bubbles could not possibly be correct. It is only your observation that it is the #1 cause because most people intuitively know to check the water level and strainer pot lid before calling a pool technician to diagnose the problem.
Looks great but how do you remove the wire that is wrapped around the screw afterward?
Excellent