what settings need to be change in client PC if we are using LDAP
@disdonc6.klasse549 Жыл бұрын
How can I set up 300 clients with Veyon without having to write the configuraiton for each of them? I mean, I can save the configuration file, BUT the name of the clients devices (laptops) isn't the same. How can this automatically be done in the configuration file so that each individual device gets its correct name / IP ... whatever?
@daycefloaizavelasquez8704 Жыл бұрын
I use wind 10. I have noticed that when on the master machine something is copied, the copied stuff is parked on the clipboard of the slave machine; and vice versa. How can this functionality be configured/restricted?
@gmenelau2 жыл бұрын
All the UN are in the same scoop ?
@user-kl4mp3iv7y2 жыл бұрын
Hello. Can I use several private key? One pryvate key - one classroom?
@dexamemer2 жыл бұрын
bruh evil
@ludorobben16812 жыл бұрын
HEY Bruh, your Right, it's on the edge. Was nice to do in the beginning at home with the Kids for a week. Now, i dont care any more .
@dexamemer2 жыл бұрын
i also thought it wouldn‘t be legal to do that from the kids own devices. atleast in eu. but yeah most kids don‘t care so focus more on the interested kids
@olasumboope49283 жыл бұрын
Can we have two master computers viewing the same set of client computers such that the client/student can choose to talk to either of thre teacher/master computers and vice versa
@ludorobben16813 жыл бұрын
Yes you can as much you want. Test it. We have 2 Masters
@BradFoszz5 жыл бұрын
Ludo, this is beautiful. Thank you for making this tutorial.
@nyume8155 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to monitor users under the same computer? My laboratory runs with a server that revives connections from a thinkbox
@shawndudeman54995 жыл бұрын
Also I never saw a finished product with keys installed on clients and a working configuration with the master viewing the clients?
@shawndudeman54995 жыл бұрын
audio?
@erichlauk61686 жыл бұрын
When I'm on the client's computer, it won't let me import the key files because they're a .txt instead of a .pem, how do I import the key files on to the client's computer to have them connected?
@shawndudeman54995 жыл бұрын
A key can be saved pem or txt or whatever extension. It is usually a base 64 plain text file. You can change the extension of the file from .txt to .pem and the contents of the keyfile will still be the same. hope this is helpful in future
@erichlauk61686 жыл бұрын
I downloaded the master program on both computers, would it still work?
@kunawatfaijakammoon51276 жыл бұрын
Help me, I can not use it LDAP
@hdxpdm5326 жыл бұрын
Can I test with only 1 pc? See my pc in veyon
@aybin.v.k95626 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@qpease6 жыл бұрын
I don't get why it does not work for me. I used iTALC years ago at a school I worked at and it works fabulously with our Linux computers. This does not even work on my home network. I installed the public keys on the clients and I get nothing.
@ludorobben16816 жыл бұрын
I don't have a lot of experience with linux, but check the FAQ in Github. There are many issues with solutions about windows and linux problems. Try to start with one master and one client.
@scottdonnellan98436 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Can I ask how you can add the rest of your rooms into Veyon? My AD structure is very similar to how yours is set out, I have an OU named Workstations, then Subjects under that, then finally the room numbers. How can I get Veyon to synchronise the OU's as room groups?
@hectorgironc6 жыл бұрын
thanks, will try in my computer lab
@angelicacarrillo6 жыл бұрын
Hi, i tried at school but i cant see pc sceen it appears at master pc but it cant connect. I have about 23 laptops and i want to use this software. i followed all the instructions but i dont know what im doing wrong. Can you help me.
@ludorobben16816 жыл бұрын
When you see only grey or red screens in the master laptop, there’s possible a problem with the keys you made. There’s another way to get them into the client laptops. Open veyon-configurator in the master , go to the left top and hit File. Save the configuration to a usb-stick. You will get a json-file on the stick. Next go to a client-laptop and do the same, but this time, load the json-file into the program. Don’t forget to hit Apply at the bottom of the veyon-configurator. Another possible solution is in the section Rooms & Computers (configurator on the master) to input the name of the client-computers instead of the IP-addresses.
@darwindivas97306 жыл бұрын
Is your lab networked?
@ludorobben16816 жыл бұрын
At school we use pfsense for the IP adress delivery. (wifi + cable) . At home its the net provider router. My lab at home is a closed system.just for testing things. Its a microserver with a few small (second hand) switches.
@borncccp16 жыл бұрын
Its at home OR in a classroom? It only works within a local network? I cant monitor my employees computer screens from home to make sure there doing there jobs?
@ludorobben16816 жыл бұрын
Your right about all three. Especially about the last one, with a nice VPN connection it’s possible. There always will be good guys and bad guys. If people don’t invest in a decent firewall and anti-virus program, it will make the bad boys lives easy. Btw, speaking about bad boys, checkout “windows 10 spying” in KZread, … before you connect your new computer to the net.
@mrdhutchinson61036 жыл бұрын
Useful video thanks. How do you do the Access Control for all ICT Suites for example, but the teacher can only see the computers in the ICT Suite that their teaching computer is in? For example whichever teacher is logged onto TEACH-ABC can only see ABC-01, ABC-02 etc. I can only seem to give them access to all computers in my Active Directory domain (using LDAP object trees) which is a bit of a security risk. I know in your tutorial you covered access control for a specific room and the whole OU which isn't quite what I need.
@ludorobben16816 жыл бұрын
Sorry for the late replay. It all depends how you made your AD tree. I did only use computers here, but you can also do this with user groups. For example you can create a "veyon" master member group in AD, where you put all the teachers in with access to specific rooms. For more info about this checkout "AGDLP" in youtube. Check the Access Control settings at 4:00 to make the acces rule for the veyon teachers group. Best is to play with it for a while in a classroom and try out the different possibilities.
@mrdhutchinson61036 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Using Access Control settings I've added domain admins to Authorized user groups and for process access control rules I've created and added the veyon master member group with the following conditions: accessing user is a member of veyon master group (ticked) accessing computer is located in same room as local computer (ticked) Action: allow access (ticked) Under "Master" I have: Automatically switch to current room (ticked) Perform access control at startup (ticked) Only show current room (ticked) Hide local computer (ticked) When I run veyon master as a master user, it only shows the computers in the same room which I what I want. However if I close Veyon master down and open it again, it shows the whole AD structure. If I close and open and third time, Veyon just crashes. Doing it this way will mean i'm going to have two config files too. One for us domain admins which lists the whole AD structure, and one for teachers which just lists the ICT suites.
@ludorobben16816 жыл бұрын
I see you asked this question also in Veyon GitHub. You get an answer soon from tobybox. He designed the program. As I can see from the pictures there you should divide the suite section in the AD in classrooms with the PC's in it. Now you see all the PC's and Laptops under suites. So when you did divide the 'suites' enter the following line in ldap - Computer tree: OU=Suite-A,OU=Suites,OU=Device-Enterprise,OU=Toplevel. Hit Test afterwards.
@mrdhutchinson61036 жыл бұрын
Yeah but I'm still waiting for a reply from him. I thought he would of replied already so I don't think he is going to reply at all but we shall see so thank you for helping me since you're not part of the development team. In AD, the ICT suites are already divided. I have IT1, IT2, IT3, IT4 etc all under Suites OU. In Veyon Configurator I set LDAP to OU=Suites,OU=Devices - Enterprise,OU=toplevel and if I hit test I get 409 results returned which is what I would expect. If I use your example and change LDAP to: OU=IT1,OU=Suites,OU=Devices - Enterprise,OU=toplevel and hit test it returns 26 results for the 26 computers in that suite. Are you suggesting I have a config file for each individual ICT suite? Each config file would connect to just one suite using LDAP.
@ludorobben16816 жыл бұрын
Yes, that’s how we do it. It all depends how you build your LDAP or AD. In our school the LDAP user-section is divided in admins, management, teachers and student classes. These are used for the ACL’s in veyon. Admins get full access, teachers and management restricted access, and students no access. The LDAP computer-section is divided in rooms with there PC’s or laptops. The teacher PC’s or laptops in the computer rooms are the only ones with the master installed and can only see the PC’s from that room. The administrators have their laptop and the only ones with access to everything. We use 2 different config.json files (saved on the server). The master config.json with access to everything, for the admin laptops. In the classrooms we install this one too for the teacher master laptop and fill in the ou=IT1 … in the ldap section of the configurator. The client or student config.json is the same as the master config.json except we hide the pictogram in the service-section. It doesn't matter because the installed software is NO master on the student laptops. The veyon student version is installed with GPO. The master version we do manually. Recently I found another user specific config file (UserConfig.json) in C:\Users\your_name\AppData\Roaming\veyon\Config\ This one is saving the last settings your looked in the master (screen settings, laptops you watched, ...). You can also change the background color. Give in < "BackgroundColor": "#AAAAAA", > under < "UI": { > to get a grey background in the master.
@user-le7vp8uv1r6 жыл бұрын
still too hard for me to do it in my school. I think more basic and fundamental instructions are needed.
@tl04706 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I had no intentions of connecting veyin to my AD.
@ludorobben16816 жыл бұрын
I made a video of Veyon install without Active Directory or LDAP: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Yo2dz62LnsbUpdo.html
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what settings need to be change in client PC if we are using LDAP
How can I set up 300 clients with Veyon without having to write the configuraiton for each of them? I mean, I can save the configuration file, BUT the name of the clients devices (laptops) isn't the same. How can this automatically be done in the configuration file so that each individual device gets its correct name / IP ... whatever?
I use wind 10. I have noticed that when on the master machine something is copied, the copied stuff is parked on the clipboard of the slave machine; and vice versa. How can this functionality be configured/restricted?
All the UN are in the same scoop ?
Hello. Can I use several private key? One pryvate key - one classroom?
bruh evil
HEY Bruh, your Right, it's on the edge. Was nice to do in the beginning at home with the Kids for a week. Now, i dont care any more .
i also thought it wouldn‘t be legal to do that from the kids own devices. atleast in eu. but yeah most kids don‘t care so focus more on the interested kids
Can we have two master computers viewing the same set of client computers such that the client/student can choose to talk to either of thre teacher/master computers and vice versa
Yes you can as much you want. Test it. We have 2 Masters
Ludo, this is beautiful. Thank you for making this tutorial.
Is it possible to monitor users under the same computer? My laboratory runs with a server that revives connections from a thinkbox
Also I never saw a finished product with keys installed on clients and a working configuration with the master viewing the clients?
audio?
When I'm on the client's computer, it won't let me import the key files because they're a .txt instead of a .pem, how do I import the key files on to the client's computer to have them connected?
A key can be saved pem or txt or whatever extension. It is usually a base 64 plain text file. You can change the extension of the file from .txt to .pem and the contents of the keyfile will still be the same. hope this is helpful in future
I downloaded the master program on both computers, would it still work?
Help me, I can not use it LDAP
Can I test with only 1 pc? See my pc in veyon
Thanks
I don't get why it does not work for me. I used iTALC years ago at a school I worked at and it works fabulously with our Linux computers. This does not even work on my home network. I installed the public keys on the clients and I get nothing.
I don't have a lot of experience with linux, but check the FAQ in Github. There are many issues with solutions about windows and linux problems. Try to start with one master and one client.
Thanks for the video! Can I ask how you can add the rest of your rooms into Veyon? My AD structure is very similar to how yours is set out, I have an OU named Workstations, then Subjects under that, then finally the room numbers. How can I get Veyon to synchronise the OU's as room groups?
thanks, will try in my computer lab
Hi, i tried at school but i cant see pc sceen it appears at master pc but it cant connect. I have about 23 laptops and i want to use this software. i followed all the instructions but i dont know what im doing wrong. Can you help me.
When you see only grey or red screens in the master laptop, there’s possible a problem with the keys you made. There’s another way to get them into the client laptops. Open veyon-configurator in the master , go to the left top and hit File. Save the configuration to a usb-stick. You will get a json-file on the stick. Next go to a client-laptop and do the same, but this time, load the json-file into the program. Don’t forget to hit Apply at the bottom of the veyon-configurator. Another possible solution is in the section Rooms & Computers (configurator on the master) to input the name of the client-computers instead of the IP-addresses.
Is your lab networked?
At school we use pfsense for the IP adress delivery. (wifi + cable) . At home its the net provider router. My lab at home is a closed system.just for testing things. Its a microserver with a few small (second hand) switches.
Its at home OR in a classroom? It only works within a local network? I cant monitor my employees computer screens from home to make sure there doing there jobs?
Your right about all three. Especially about the last one, with a nice VPN connection it’s possible. There always will be good guys and bad guys. If people don’t invest in a decent firewall and anti-virus program, it will make the bad boys lives easy. Btw, speaking about bad boys, checkout “windows 10 spying” in KZread, … before you connect your new computer to the net.
Useful video thanks. How do you do the Access Control for all ICT Suites for example, but the teacher can only see the computers in the ICT Suite that their teaching computer is in? For example whichever teacher is logged onto TEACH-ABC can only see ABC-01, ABC-02 etc. I can only seem to give them access to all computers in my Active Directory domain (using LDAP object trees) which is a bit of a security risk. I know in your tutorial you covered access control for a specific room and the whole OU which isn't quite what I need.
Sorry for the late replay. It all depends how you made your AD tree. I did only use computers here, but you can also do this with user groups. For example you can create a "veyon" master member group in AD, where you put all the teachers in with access to specific rooms. For more info about this checkout "AGDLP" in youtube. Check the Access Control settings at 4:00 to make the acces rule for the veyon teachers group. Best is to play with it for a while in a classroom and try out the different possibilities.
Thanks. Using Access Control settings I've added domain admins to Authorized user groups and for process access control rules I've created and added the veyon master member group with the following conditions: accessing user is a member of veyon master group (ticked) accessing computer is located in same room as local computer (ticked) Action: allow access (ticked) Under "Master" I have: Automatically switch to current room (ticked) Perform access control at startup (ticked) Only show current room (ticked) Hide local computer (ticked) When I run veyon master as a master user, it only shows the computers in the same room which I what I want. However if I close Veyon master down and open it again, it shows the whole AD structure. If I close and open and third time, Veyon just crashes. Doing it this way will mean i'm going to have two config files too. One for us domain admins which lists the whole AD structure, and one for teachers which just lists the ICT suites.
I see you asked this question also in Veyon GitHub. You get an answer soon from tobybox. He designed the program. As I can see from the pictures there you should divide the suite section in the AD in classrooms with the PC's in it. Now you see all the PC's and Laptops under suites. So when you did divide the 'suites' enter the following line in ldap - Computer tree: OU=Suite-A,OU=Suites,OU=Device-Enterprise,OU=Toplevel. Hit Test afterwards.
Yeah but I'm still waiting for a reply from him. I thought he would of replied already so I don't think he is going to reply at all but we shall see so thank you for helping me since you're not part of the development team. In AD, the ICT suites are already divided. I have IT1, IT2, IT3, IT4 etc all under Suites OU. In Veyon Configurator I set LDAP to OU=Suites,OU=Devices - Enterprise,OU=toplevel and if I hit test I get 409 results returned which is what I would expect. If I use your example and change LDAP to: OU=IT1,OU=Suites,OU=Devices - Enterprise,OU=toplevel and hit test it returns 26 results for the 26 computers in that suite. Are you suggesting I have a config file for each individual ICT suite? Each config file would connect to just one suite using LDAP.
Yes, that’s how we do it. It all depends how you build your LDAP or AD. In our school the LDAP user-section is divided in admins, management, teachers and student classes. These are used for the ACL’s in veyon. Admins get full access, teachers and management restricted access, and students no access. The LDAP computer-section is divided in rooms with there PC’s or laptops. The teacher PC’s or laptops in the computer rooms are the only ones with the master installed and can only see the PC’s from that room. The administrators have their laptop and the only ones with access to everything. We use 2 different config.json files (saved on the server). The master config.json with access to everything, for the admin laptops. In the classrooms we install this one too for the teacher master laptop and fill in the ou=IT1 … in the ldap section of the configurator. The client or student config.json is the same as the master config.json except we hide the pictogram in the service-section. It doesn't matter because the installed software is NO master on the student laptops. The veyon student version is installed with GPO. The master version we do manually. Recently I found another user specific config file (UserConfig.json) in C:\Users\your_name\AppData\Roaming\veyon\Config\ This one is saving the last settings your looked in the master (screen settings, laptops you watched, ...). You can also change the background color. Give in < "BackgroundColor": "#AAAAAA", > under < "UI": { > to get a grey background in the master.
still too hard for me to do it in my school. I think more basic and fundamental instructions are needed.
Agreed. I had no intentions of connecting veyin to my AD.
I made a video of Veyon install without Active Directory or LDAP: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Yo2dz62LnsbUpdo.html