Hey Bob, I just got notice thaty viper track has shipped and I have a couple questions for ya 1st Why the need for the shrink tube? 2nd Judging by the placement of the negative wire in this video your cars will be traveling counter clockwise....correct? That's the way we want ours cars to go. 3rd It looks like you went with the harder material. I have the white sintra coming which is softer so I'm worried that I won't get away with soldering the drops the way that your doing it, what's your thoughts? Thanks, Brian
@bobk853910 ай бұрын
Hello Brian, The heat shrink was just to cover the soldered joint and bare wire. Yes you’re correct, I run the cars counter clockwise however, I use the Trackmate driver stations that have the directional switch to run either way. I did go with the harder type 1 PVC material. I have a friend that has a Sintra track and we had more success using a screen install tool for the lock wire and rails rather than the Viper tool. The Sintra makes a nice track but it is not as forgiving as the type 1 pvc when installing the rails. Be careful and take it slow, it’s easy to crease or fold over the edge of the groove. He didn’t solder his power taps either, they’re just press fit. Have fun and enjoy the build. Send me a pic when you get it finished. Bob
@Enigma-lv3rp10 ай бұрын
I'm worried about the oxidation build up over time effecting the press fit connection. I'm going to at least try soldering them in. Thanks for responding.@@bobk8539
@marksslotcargarage Жыл бұрын
I just completed a Viper track build, if you put the big washer in the center slot and run the two bearings over the rails it will get the wire started enough for you to go back over it with just the washer by hand to push the wire in all the way. I made quick work of installing my rails doing it that way.
@mortonbeard2240 Жыл бұрын
What are they for ? To even out the power: more power?
@michaelpeterson2773 Жыл бұрын
Could I purchase 9” and 15” AFX AURORA power tap track from you?
@docorocsrt2 жыл бұрын
So you only need 1 wire per lane? I assume it’s the (-) wire off the power source? Or from another track piece close to power source? The 2 holes per lane not being used here or did you just not video that part?
@bobk85392 жыл бұрын
Hello Jeff, It needs two connections per lane, one positive (drivers side) and one negative. This is one of 72 power tap connections on my track. Yes I didn’t video the other side but they were all done this way. This track kit (Viper) comes with power tap holes on each end of the track pieces. That extra choice makes it easy to choose and layout the power to the track. You sure could connect track sections in this manner, a jumper wire essentially.
@docorocsrt2 жыл бұрын
I’m trying to simply learn how to improve performance by getting power to the area halfway around my track circuit. I’m using 4 Tripacks ( 1 per lane of course) and just 2-wire controllers (no brakes) on my AFX/Racemasters track. Nothing fancy but I can’t find any easy diagrams on how to get power to other sections. It’s not clear to me if these are “taps” or “jumpers” lol. I just saw a video where he just used the (-) wire from his power source and connected it to the corresponding rail of the lane across the track circuit. Also have seen some wire both (+) and (-) from rails of track section next to “main terminal” track receiving power and connecting to corresponding rails of lane across the track circuit (even several “taps” every so many connections of track). Help? Appreciate your efforts here on the videos for sure.
@bobk85392 жыл бұрын
@@docorocsrt hey that’s great, AFX track! I agree, learning how to wire it all up is most of the battle if you don’t have someone there that’s done it before. On my track they’re all power taps. All are wired from the power tap, back to a distribution block, then the drivers stations, then the timing system relay, and finally the power supply. I used the AccuTech advanced track wiring diagram as a guide. l can email it to you if needed. It has direction switches on it but you can just bypass that obviously. Just follow the + and - connections. With your track I would run power taps rather than jumpers. Use a power distribution block coming off your driver stations and distribute power (+and-) to each lane tap you want. A guy in my club is doing that now to his AFX track and I believe he’s going with 7 power taps. Let me know how else I can help
@randy18172 жыл бұрын
With it being that tight to press the wire in you could also use glue on the tip of the wire.. Either will work fine. That way if you don't trust yourself with soldering, just use glue..
@TheSlotSpot2 жыл бұрын
You run the glue along the whole rail? Thinking about getting a viper track soon.
@bobk85392 жыл бұрын
@The Slot Spot, I did not run the glue down the entire rail. I glued all the ends a few inches in, then spot glued every couple feet or so. It seems to be working well so far. When I tried my NEO cars it did pull up the rail slightly in one spot. I plan to add more glue in a few spots and I should be good to go. I also changed glue tips from the one in this video to the Zap Flexi-Tips. Much better control of the glue.
@TheSlotSpot2 жыл бұрын
@@bobk8539 cool thanks. I don’t have any neo cars mostly just stock tycos and some older stuff.
@Todd_Monson2 жыл бұрын
I’m thinking about buying a track from them. Was it worth installing the rails yourself?
@bobk85392 жыл бұрын
@MT_MTB Good question! Yes I think so, it allowed me to buy a bigger track for the money. Installing the rails was more work than I anticipated however, and went a little slow in the beginning. The more practice, the better I got at it for sure. This is a 60’ track with eight rails to lay, that’s 480 feet! On the other hand, if you want your track up and running sooner, you might want them to install it. I would also recommend the type 1 PVC track (like in this video) if you do the install yourself. Very sturdy material. Good luck, let me know which way you go!
@enigma61002 жыл бұрын
Why does the lane spacing look to be the same as AFX track? One big reason that we're looking to buy a custom track is to have better lane spacing so we're not bumping each other off all the time.
@bobk85392 жыл бұрын
Lane spacing on this track (Viper) slot to slot is 1.5”. Total width is 8”. AFX track is 1” 5/16” and just under 6” wide. If you’re really concerned about extra space to race, look into MaxTrax, they’re even wider. Thanks for watching, send some pics of your track when you get it going.
@roadsscholar40122 жыл бұрын
Great idea! I would have never thought of doing it this way.
@thatgokarterguy3 жыл бұрын
I have a toy of Scott Bloomquist
@jerseymike47553 жыл бұрын
Do you have any videos of you building the track?
@bobk85393 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike, No I don’t. I planned to do an entire build video but haven’t, maybe on my next track. I’m currently working on installing and soldering the power taps, I’ll try and upload a video of that. Thanks for your interest!
@ObligedTester3 жыл бұрын
This is cool! Do you know what kind of material that is used?
@bobk85393 жыл бұрын
The track material is PVC Type 1
@leonardoxper63803 жыл бұрын
Hola..! Donde compro el alambre plano..? Gracias..!!!
@bobk85393 жыл бұрын
Viper scale racing viperscaleracing.com/product/srs-track-rail-20-length/
@gattismetal2 жыл бұрын
@@bobk8539 Box stitching wire?
@bobk85392 жыл бұрын
@@gattismetal I’m not familiar with box stitching wire. The wire i used is from viper scale racing, I’ll attach a link. viperscaleracing.com/product/srs-track-rail-20-length/
@LeadedAsbestos3 жыл бұрын
Where did you get the rails
@bobk85393 жыл бұрын
Viper Scale Racing, it is one of their track kits viperscaleracing.com/product/4x14-scorpion-plus-4-in-1-layout/
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Hey Bob, I just got notice thaty viper track has shipped and I have a couple questions for ya 1st Why the need for the shrink tube? 2nd Judging by the placement of the negative wire in this video your cars will be traveling counter clockwise....correct? That's the way we want ours cars to go. 3rd It looks like you went with the harder material. I have the white sintra coming which is softer so I'm worried that I won't get away with soldering the drops the way that your doing it, what's your thoughts? Thanks, Brian
Hello Brian, The heat shrink was just to cover the soldered joint and bare wire. Yes you’re correct, I run the cars counter clockwise however, I use the Trackmate driver stations that have the directional switch to run either way. I did go with the harder type 1 PVC material. I have a friend that has a Sintra track and we had more success using a screen install tool for the lock wire and rails rather than the Viper tool. The Sintra makes a nice track but it is not as forgiving as the type 1 pvc when installing the rails. Be careful and take it slow, it’s easy to crease or fold over the edge of the groove. He didn’t solder his power taps either, they’re just press fit. Have fun and enjoy the build. Send me a pic when you get it finished. Bob
I'm worried about the oxidation build up over time effecting the press fit connection. I'm going to at least try soldering them in. Thanks for responding.@@bobk8539
I just completed a Viper track build, if you put the big washer in the center slot and run the two bearings over the rails it will get the wire started enough for you to go back over it with just the washer by hand to push the wire in all the way. I made quick work of installing my rails doing it that way.
What are they for ? To even out the power: more power?
Could I purchase 9” and 15” AFX AURORA power tap track from you?
So you only need 1 wire per lane? I assume it’s the (-) wire off the power source? Or from another track piece close to power source? The 2 holes per lane not being used here or did you just not video that part?
Hello Jeff, It needs two connections per lane, one positive (drivers side) and one negative. This is one of 72 power tap connections on my track. Yes I didn’t video the other side but they were all done this way. This track kit (Viper) comes with power tap holes on each end of the track pieces. That extra choice makes it easy to choose and layout the power to the track. You sure could connect track sections in this manner, a jumper wire essentially.
I’m trying to simply learn how to improve performance by getting power to the area halfway around my track circuit. I’m using 4 Tripacks ( 1 per lane of course) and just 2-wire controllers (no brakes) on my AFX/Racemasters track. Nothing fancy but I can’t find any easy diagrams on how to get power to other sections. It’s not clear to me if these are “taps” or “jumpers” lol. I just saw a video where he just used the (-) wire from his power source and connected it to the corresponding rail of the lane across the track circuit. Also have seen some wire both (+) and (-) from rails of track section next to “main terminal” track receiving power and connecting to corresponding rails of lane across the track circuit (even several “taps” every so many connections of track). Help? Appreciate your efforts here on the videos for sure.
@@docorocsrt hey that’s great, AFX track! I agree, learning how to wire it all up is most of the battle if you don’t have someone there that’s done it before. On my track they’re all power taps. All are wired from the power tap, back to a distribution block, then the drivers stations, then the timing system relay, and finally the power supply. I used the AccuTech advanced track wiring diagram as a guide. l can email it to you if needed. It has direction switches on it but you can just bypass that obviously. Just follow the + and - connections. With your track I would run power taps rather than jumpers. Use a power distribution block coming off your driver stations and distribute power (+and-) to each lane tap you want. A guy in my club is doing that now to his AFX track and I believe he’s going with 7 power taps. Let me know how else I can help
With it being that tight to press the wire in you could also use glue on the tip of the wire.. Either will work fine. That way if you don't trust yourself with soldering, just use glue..
You run the glue along the whole rail? Thinking about getting a viper track soon.
@The Slot Spot, I did not run the glue down the entire rail. I glued all the ends a few inches in, then spot glued every couple feet or so. It seems to be working well so far. When I tried my NEO cars it did pull up the rail slightly in one spot. I plan to add more glue in a few spots and I should be good to go. I also changed glue tips from the one in this video to the Zap Flexi-Tips. Much better control of the glue.
@@bobk8539 cool thanks. I don’t have any neo cars mostly just stock tycos and some older stuff.
I’m thinking about buying a track from them. Was it worth installing the rails yourself?
@MT_MTB Good question! Yes I think so, it allowed me to buy a bigger track for the money. Installing the rails was more work than I anticipated however, and went a little slow in the beginning. The more practice, the better I got at it for sure. This is a 60’ track with eight rails to lay, that’s 480 feet! On the other hand, if you want your track up and running sooner, you might want them to install it. I would also recommend the type 1 PVC track (like in this video) if you do the install yourself. Very sturdy material. Good luck, let me know which way you go!
Why does the lane spacing look to be the same as AFX track? One big reason that we're looking to buy a custom track is to have better lane spacing so we're not bumping each other off all the time.
Lane spacing on this track (Viper) slot to slot is 1.5”. Total width is 8”. AFX track is 1” 5/16” and just under 6” wide. If you’re really concerned about extra space to race, look into MaxTrax, they’re even wider. Thanks for watching, send some pics of your track when you get it going.
Great idea! I would have never thought of doing it this way.
I have a toy of Scott Bloomquist
Do you have any videos of you building the track?
Hey Mike, No I don’t. I planned to do an entire build video but haven’t, maybe on my next track. I’m currently working on installing and soldering the power taps, I’ll try and upload a video of that. Thanks for your interest!
This is cool! Do you know what kind of material that is used?
The track material is PVC Type 1
Hola..! Donde compro el alambre plano..? Gracias..!!!
Viper scale racing viperscaleracing.com/product/srs-track-rail-20-length/
@@bobk8539 Box stitching wire?
@@gattismetal I’m not familiar with box stitching wire. The wire i used is from viper scale racing, I’ll attach a link. viperscaleracing.com/product/srs-track-rail-20-length/
Where did you get the rails
Viper Scale Racing, it is one of their track kits viperscaleracing.com/product/4x14-scorpion-plus-4-in-1-layout/
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