True but in the sense of momentum ending the season on a good note , new offense staff , new positive energy , on top off the training camp being in Irvine is a great build up to the season in my opinion
@juliusrickles23 сағат бұрын
We have the system and talent so its on the players and coaches how bad they want it.
@DemWhoDatBaae23 сағат бұрын
I got us at 7-10 this season so obviously I don't think we have a lot of great players....but AK at #1? He hardly ever has "+" plays, does nothing in the open field. No way Mr. Fazende. No love for Taysom, someone who so clearly provides "+" plays
@Uppity19643 күн бұрын
50 + year season ticket holder here. I’m focused on Dennis Allen-tired of got damn excuses. Your ASS NEED TO WIN! Hey Man, RESULTS MATTER. WIN, or get your ASS UP OUTTA HERE!!!
@ryanromero408713 күн бұрын
We need Sean back, this guy is just stuck on the national narrative on the Saints. Demario didn't have a down year, he was a second team All Pro. Weak LB cote, NOT SO MUCH Demario Davis, Pete Werner, Wilie Gay, Keleki Hudson. Not So Much! Kamara don't want CMC money, he just wants mote guaranteed money next season. I can go on and on with this dude.
@uncleduce192215 күн бұрын
I just feel like yall aren’t taking into consideration that our OC was pure garbage last year
@nolasaintsfan15 күн бұрын
Good show guys
@ryanromero408722 күн бұрын
Also Alonte Taylor did give up the most yards and the most TDs, but everyone fails to mention that he did play the most snaps in the leauge at Nickle Corner. Not just among Saints players, the entire NFL.
@ryanromero408722 күн бұрын
Kool Aid had a Jones Fracture.
@nolasaintsfan24 күн бұрын
Penning will never play tackle in the NFL… he’s too top heavy, clumsy. He’s a mauler, a guard.
@JOHNSTALCUP-dm7vf26 күн бұрын
As always a great show ! Any word on if Southern California Saints Fans will be able to Watch Training Camp ? Thanks
@nolasaintsfan26 күн бұрын
They should pay Shaheed before he hits free agency…he’ll be way cheaper. And his heart has to be in Nola for giving him the chance.
@johnedwards573826 күн бұрын
Cultural Appropriate much Fazande ?
@Bambino_6026 күн бұрын
I missed it. What happened?
@robertgillis269726 күн бұрын
Mckinstry had an undiagnosed Jones fracture during pro day. I have had experience with Jones fractures in both feet 15 years apart. First the injury is a fracture in the non or very low vascularity portion of Metatarsal V - a bone leading to the pinkie toe. Without treatment, it can lead to permanent disability where the bone never heals. Since it was undetected at the time of injury, it likely is just a fracture without an obvious break in the bone. On the negative side there might be a slight chance that it is worse now because it wasn't detected and may be more difficult to get this notorious spot to heal given the very poor blood supply that defines the Jones diagnosis. I had my first Jones fracture on my right foot back in 1996 after landing on another player’s heel. I opted for a cast. After many months it promptly broke again the first time I made a hard cut in basketball. I tried the bone stimulator for many months to no avail. I finally bit the bullet and had surgery - they attached a plate along the outside of the bone. Eventually, it was fully healed though the plate is still there. Fast forward 2011 - insas under cut a bit and broke the left metatarsal V when I came down on a defenders foot. Wiser now, I called my ortho surgeon and asked for the standard insert be placed inside the bone. Luckily, a cancellation had just occurred and I was in surgery 3 days later. I rehabbed daily and was back to playing in less than 2 months. No problem since - still playing full-court with under 30s at 66 15 months post bypass surgery. Assuming Kool-Aid received an insert, he should be playing in 2-3 months conservatively after surgery at the latest. His repaired bone will be much stronger than his unbroken one. IMO he will be participating in Los Vegas soon.
@mwganson27 күн бұрын
Good breakdown, guys. Take the 22.4M off the books for 2025 and replace that with 11M guaranteed for 2025 and 11M unguaranteed for 2026. The Saints do have to try to get away from having to keep these older guys around just because cutting them blows up the salary cap. Problem is they're so far behind the 8-ball as it is, that each year they end having to do the restructures just to get under the cap for the coming year. At some point you might not even be able to do enough restructures to get under the cap. There are so many unknowns here, despite having had him for 7 years. I think they'll get something done before the start of training camp, but we'll see.
@Bandit953928 күн бұрын
Shaheed can actually run routes lol
@frankandara455928 күн бұрын
Are we able to see the highlight reels that you create for every player at the end of the year??
@AndreJohnsonTV27 күн бұрын
Unfortunately not on KZread. We can’t post NFL highlights on here
@subzer08229 күн бұрын
I think make or break year for Werner is understatement. Seen a production about Willie Gay and his Family and he seems like a guy that wants to be close to his Mississippi home town so I’m sure he’s going to give everything he can to get a new contract with Saints. I think it will be winner take all on the next contract at LB. The winner stays and loser goes.
@Freshco504Ай бұрын
A couple of down years?!? Why did he hv those "DOWN YEARS"?!? PETE CARMICHAEL is the reason for why AK's numbers dropped!!!
@TheStacanovaАй бұрын
Saints media say the darnedest things. Saying AK has leverage and the Saints would be in trouble without him, when he could be absolute crap in this Kubiak scheme? Look at Dameon Pierce from the Texans, in 2022, he was one of the best up & coming RB’s, but he doesn’t fit the Shanahan scheme, so he sucked in 2023 and will continue to suck, they need to trade him to a different scheme. Invest high in a RB to replace AK? Draft a RB high? What? Have you paid attention to RB’s in the Shanahan/Kubiak system? It requires a very specific skill set & an ability that’s almost instinctive. The good news is, you can find someone with this skill set typically on someone’s practice squad. At worst, they can draft someone in the 3rd-5th round next year, that can be a 1,000 yard rusher, which strangely enough, is something AK has NEVER done? AK & Kendre Miller may be horrible in Kubiak’s scheme and Jamaal Williams & Jordan Mims may be awesome at it. The ONLY tricky part is finding someone who is good at it, who can also catch, doesn’t fumble and can pass protect. If Kubiak isn’t sure about any of the RB’s currently on the roster, he can still sign Dalvin Cook off the street for next to nothing, who he knows can run his scheme, even if he’s past his prime.
@SaintGregTravelАй бұрын
Offer him the Derrick Henry deal otherwise let him walk.
@richardhornerjr3421Ай бұрын
They are on the hook for 11.6 this year 22 in 25 give him 30 guaranteed three years and let him retire at year ten and he will be happy and maybe if he goes off and we win one he has a chance at the hall
@michaelbrueck6176Ай бұрын
Im a Raiders fan but someone mentioned Mickey Loomis not being ok with Alvin leaving pratice? That it didnt set well with him.
@j.g.p.jr.6497Ай бұрын
Just pay the man and get it over with!
@epicexx5114Ай бұрын
Y’all trippen stop looking what he did in the past.. watch the tape last year A K 1 v 1 didn’t win very often
@t5dagreatАй бұрын
How does a running back win 1v1? Don't you need an offensive line, and how well did they play?
@Freshco504Ай бұрын
I'm not looking in the past at all. I'm looking at the offense that was ran by Pete Carmichael. AK has never been a between the tackle RB he's always had another running mate(Mark Ingram) to be that type of RB, but Carmichael was running AK up the middle, s9 of course his numbers would decline. I GUARANTEE AK will hv a better season this year coming. Hell, I believe that he's gonna put up better numbers than McCaffrey this coming season!!!
@JD.007Ай бұрын
carr and peterman have a bond. he is like a coach and carr respects him. I’d say find a spot/role for the guy even if its coaching.
@riverl5241Ай бұрын
Don"t pay Alvin Kamara! Trade him to another team. He hasn't been productive since he signed his second contract.
@drseuessbabyАй бұрын
Prentice won't make it
@reidwilson7974Ай бұрын
I think brown makes the roster
@ladyt4062Ай бұрын
Good discussion!
@DerekwhodatCarr111Ай бұрын
Jake Haener is the future but more importantly Derek Carr will excel in this offense and will be starting for the next 4 years then Jake will take over. Rattler will be a career backup.
@TheStacanovaАй бұрын
CMC is in NO WAY a Comp to AK! What are you even talking about? CMC is coming off a 2,000 yard from scrimmage & OPoY winning season. AK can try to argue Barkley & Jacobs are his comps, but they’re younger. His actual comps are probably Henry & Mixon. That’s a 2 year deal, 16 million total, 8 million per year. The Saints would be KIND to guarantee all 16 million, That’s his comp. Which works out to a pay cut this year for some guaranteed money in 2025. Arguing anything more than that is delusional to what the market currently is.
@TheStacanovaАй бұрын
I would be open to incentives built in on top of the 8 million guaranteed per season for 2024 & 2025. Each season would have up to 6 million that could be earned in incentives , all would qualify as “unlikely to earn”, so would count against the cap. Here’s the breakdown 1 million for 1,500+ yards from scrimmage. 1 million is the Saints make the playoffs. 2 million if AK wins OPOY 2 million if the Saints make the Super Bowl..
@them.6306Ай бұрын
Saints will draft in the SAME position with Carr (12-15) with 7-9 wins MAX!!! Smfh we NEED to draft in the top 3 in 2025 in order to get a franchise player.
@divineeternity7268Ай бұрын
I can see them working it out if they was willing to extend Jordan last year and he's older than Kamara.
@jonwmeyer11Ай бұрын
Should’ve drafted Tyjae Spears.
@TMama_Ай бұрын
HOLD OUT KAMARA IF THEY WONT PAY YOU. KNOW. YOUR. WORTH.
@TMama_Ай бұрын
HOLD OUT AK. Don’t play with this organization who squandered your talents and gifts for THREE YEARS. Hold OUT AK. Stick em real good so they LEARN from past mistakes. Take some money from CARR or WHOMEVER AND PAY AK!!!! ISWIS HES STILL AFFECTIVE.
@TMama_Ай бұрын
They weren’t Careful paying that lemon what they paid and he hadn’t snapped one ball amongst OTHERS that CLEARLY ROBBED THIS ORGANIZATION. And stop it with him walking out he has that right. Yall to BIASED with this bullish! They are not ALVIN. Kendra nor Jamel is a AK. Noooo Kendre must stay healthy SHOW ME.
@TMama_Ай бұрын
SOME TEAM WILL PAY THIS MAN. Let the Saints not do it AND WATCH WHAT HAPPENS. It’s SAD THIS ORGANIZATION HAD WASTED TONS OF MONEY ON TRASH. AK is far from trash!!! STOP KICKING THE CAN MICKEY LOOMIS, you’ve kicked it for almost a decade. GET PAID AK.
@realist8967Ай бұрын
His legs are old. TRADE HIM.
@JD.007Ай бұрын
hes good, but i would have traded him before the draft. he doesn’t look that happy. the team is cash strapped. and you wanna keep the vibes positive.
@walk4jesusinternationaldis269Ай бұрын
Hold on.. who told you.. That Dallas is team.. 😅 Dallas is trashed and has been trashed.. I don't think any team, right now, in this league should be considered elite.. The refs cheat too much for any team to think of themselves as elite or for any person besides someone with loose screws to think of a team as elite.. Who KC no they want them to seem elite to hype up the sport. As long as they keep cheating people will turn away from the league more and more until the point the NFL will be bankrupt or have a cheating reform and fix itself.
@_DaBears_Ай бұрын
I thought we got rid of all this crap during the offseason.
@2dat115Ай бұрын
Trade him for whatever at this point
@scoutwithoutcloutАй бұрын
Last yr he was the 2nd biggest RB contract in the NFL. His cap is massive and he's averaged under 4 YPC. We haven't used him well in 3 seasons and his camp was leaking trade rumors before the deadline 2 seasons ago. We should've traded him then. Dude hasn't earned the contract he has, much less a new one.
@patrickm1013Ай бұрын
I would trade him for a 7 th round pick . That’s all he is worth.
@1youngkashАй бұрын
I’m sorry. We are not contenders with kamara. So if we could get a 4th round pick for him. I’ll just trade him. Why add to the cap hell if we’re not competing.
@akeredunАй бұрын
AK deserves job security and his 💰. He has been the heart o f this team. AK didn't have a dip in production, the Louisiana Losers have callously squandered the talents of our stars, especially Kamara: Pay. The. Man.
@scoutwithoutcloutАй бұрын
He's the 2nd highest paid Running Back in the NFL
@TMama_Ай бұрын
SAYYYYY DAT!!!! He must SECURE himself. These people are delusional who believe he’s washed. Absolutely not and we seen that with CMC after leaving poo pampers. They can’t tell me it’s over for AK. No way!!! Don’t even count those last 3 years. They better do right because we’ve seen this store not paying and our guys go elsewhere and be ⭐️ stars. Make it make sense!
@akeredunАй бұрын
@@TMama_ 💯 Without AK, the Saints are sunk.
@scoutwithoutcloutАй бұрын
@@akeredun we should be talking about paying Adebo not Kamara.
@robertanderson8780Ай бұрын
@@akeredunWe ain’t truly had him the last 3 years.
@Bandit9539Ай бұрын
Lol cmc Broke out when he got to 49ers stop it AK has had a better career with more TDs until recently
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If they leave DC and DA there… we have hope!!!
True but in the sense of momentum ending the season on a good note , new offense staff , new positive energy , on top off the training camp being in Irvine is a great build up to the season in my opinion
We have the system and talent so its on the players and coaches how bad they want it.
I got us at 7-10 this season so obviously I don't think we have a lot of great players....but AK at #1? He hardly ever has "+" plays, does nothing in the open field. No way Mr. Fazende. No love for Taysom, someone who so clearly provides "+" plays
50 + year season ticket holder here. I’m focused on Dennis Allen-tired of got damn excuses. Your ASS NEED TO WIN! Hey Man, RESULTS MATTER. WIN, or get your ASS UP OUTTA HERE!!!
We need Sean back, this guy is just stuck on the national narrative on the Saints. Demario didn't have a down year, he was a second team All Pro. Weak LB cote, NOT SO MUCH Demario Davis, Pete Werner, Wilie Gay, Keleki Hudson. Not So Much! Kamara don't want CMC money, he just wants mote guaranteed money next season. I can go on and on with this dude.
I just feel like yall aren’t taking into consideration that our OC was pure garbage last year
Good show guys
Also Alonte Taylor did give up the most yards and the most TDs, but everyone fails to mention that he did play the most snaps in the leauge at Nickle Corner. Not just among Saints players, the entire NFL.
Kool Aid had a Jones Fracture.
Penning will never play tackle in the NFL… he’s too top heavy, clumsy. He’s a mauler, a guard.
As always a great show ! Any word on if Southern California Saints Fans will be able to Watch Training Camp ? Thanks
They should pay Shaheed before he hits free agency…he’ll be way cheaper. And his heart has to be in Nola for giving him the chance.
Cultural Appropriate much Fazande ?
I missed it. What happened?
Mckinstry had an undiagnosed Jones fracture during pro day. I have had experience with Jones fractures in both feet 15 years apart. First the injury is a fracture in the non or very low vascularity portion of Metatarsal V - a bone leading to the pinkie toe. Without treatment, it can lead to permanent disability where the bone never heals. Since it was undetected at the time of injury, it likely is just a fracture without an obvious break in the bone. On the negative side there might be a slight chance that it is worse now because it wasn't detected and may be more difficult to get this notorious spot to heal given the very poor blood supply that defines the Jones diagnosis. I had my first Jones fracture on my right foot back in 1996 after landing on another player’s heel. I opted for a cast. After many months it promptly broke again the first time I made a hard cut in basketball. I tried the bone stimulator for many months to no avail. I finally bit the bullet and had surgery - they attached a plate along the outside of the bone. Eventually, it was fully healed though the plate is still there. Fast forward 2011 - insas under cut a bit and broke the left metatarsal V when I came down on a defenders foot. Wiser now, I called my ortho surgeon and asked for the standard insert be placed inside the bone. Luckily, a cancellation had just occurred and I was in surgery 3 days later. I rehabbed daily and was back to playing in less than 2 months. No problem since - still playing full-court with under 30s at 66 15 months post bypass surgery. Assuming Kool-Aid received an insert, he should be playing in 2-3 months conservatively after surgery at the latest. His repaired bone will be much stronger than his unbroken one. IMO he will be participating in Los Vegas soon.
Good breakdown, guys. Take the 22.4M off the books for 2025 and replace that with 11M guaranteed for 2025 and 11M unguaranteed for 2026. The Saints do have to try to get away from having to keep these older guys around just because cutting them blows up the salary cap. Problem is they're so far behind the 8-ball as it is, that each year they end having to do the restructures just to get under the cap for the coming year. At some point you might not even be able to do enough restructures to get under the cap. There are so many unknowns here, despite having had him for 7 years. I think they'll get something done before the start of training camp, but we'll see.
Shaheed can actually run routes lol
Are we able to see the highlight reels that you create for every player at the end of the year??
Unfortunately not on KZread. We can’t post NFL highlights on here
I think make or break year for Werner is understatement. Seen a production about Willie Gay and his Family and he seems like a guy that wants to be close to his Mississippi home town so I’m sure he’s going to give everything he can to get a new contract with Saints. I think it will be winner take all on the next contract at LB. The winner stays and loser goes.
A couple of down years?!? Why did he hv those "DOWN YEARS"?!? PETE CARMICHAEL is the reason for why AK's numbers dropped!!!
Saints media say the darnedest things. Saying AK has leverage and the Saints would be in trouble without him, when he could be absolute crap in this Kubiak scheme? Look at Dameon Pierce from the Texans, in 2022, he was one of the best up & coming RB’s, but he doesn’t fit the Shanahan scheme, so he sucked in 2023 and will continue to suck, they need to trade him to a different scheme. Invest high in a RB to replace AK? Draft a RB high? What? Have you paid attention to RB’s in the Shanahan/Kubiak system? It requires a very specific skill set & an ability that’s almost instinctive. The good news is, you can find someone with this skill set typically on someone’s practice squad. At worst, they can draft someone in the 3rd-5th round next year, that can be a 1,000 yard rusher, which strangely enough, is something AK has NEVER done? AK & Kendre Miller may be horrible in Kubiak’s scheme and Jamaal Williams & Jordan Mims may be awesome at it. The ONLY tricky part is finding someone who is good at it, who can also catch, doesn’t fumble and can pass protect. If Kubiak isn’t sure about any of the RB’s currently on the roster, he can still sign Dalvin Cook off the street for next to nothing, who he knows can run his scheme, even if he’s past his prime.
Offer him the Derrick Henry deal otherwise let him walk.
They are on the hook for 11.6 this year 22 in 25 give him 30 guaranteed three years and let him retire at year ten and he will be happy and maybe if he goes off and we win one he has a chance at the hall
Im a Raiders fan but someone mentioned Mickey Loomis not being ok with Alvin leaving pratice? That it didnt set well with him.
Just pay the man and get it over with!
Y’all trippen stop looking what he did in the past.. watch the tape last year A K 1 v 1 didn’t win very often
How does a running back win 1v1? Don't you need an offensive line, and how well did they play?
I'm not looking in the past at all. I'm looking at the offense that was ran by Pete Carmichael. AK has never been a between the tackle RB he's always had another running mate(Mark Ingram) to be that type of RB, but Carmichael was running AK up the middle, s9 of course his numbers would decline. I GUARANTEE AK will hv a better season this year coming. Hell, I believe that he's gonna put up better numbers than McCaffrey this coming season!!!
carr and peterman have a bond. he is like a coach and carr respects him. I’d say find a spot/role for the guy even if its coaching.
Don"t pay Alvin Kamara! Trade him to another team. He hasn't been productive since he signed his second contract.
Prentice won't make it
I think brown makes the roster
Good discussion!
Jake Haener is the future but more importantly Derek Carr will excel in this offense and will be starting for the next 4 years then Jake will take over. Rattler will be a career backup.
CMC is in NO WAY a Comp to AK! What are you even talking about? CMC is coming off a 2,000 yard from scrimmage & OPoY winning season. AK can try to argue Barkley & Jacobs are his comps, but they’re younger. His actual comps are probably Henry & Mixon. That’s a 2 year deal, 16 million total, 8 million per year. The Saints would be KIND to guarantee all 16 million, That’s his comp. Which works out to a pay cut this year for some guaranteed money in 2025. Arguing anything more than that is delusional to what the market currently is.
I would be open to incentives built in on top of the 8 million guaranteed per season for 2024 & 2025. Each season would have up to 6 million that could be earned in incentives , all would qualify as “unlikely to earn”, so would count against the cap. Here’s the breakdown 1 million for 1,500+ yards from scrimmage. 1 million is the Saints make the playoffs. 2 million if AK wins OPOY 2 million if the Saints make the Super Bowl..
Saints will draft in the SAME position with Carr (12-15) with 7-9 wins MAX!!! Smfh we NEED to draft in the top 3 in 2025 in order to get a franchise player.
I can see them working it out if they was willing to extend Jordan last year and he's older than Kamara.
Should’ve drafted Tyjae Spears.
HOLD OUT KAMARA IF THEY WONT PAY YOU. KNOW. YOUR. WORTH.
HOLD OUT AK. Don’t play with this organization who squandered your talents and gifts for THREE YEARS. Hold OUT AK. Stick em real good so they LEARN from past mistakes. Take some money from CARR or WHOMEVER AND PAY AK!!!! ISWIS HES STILL AFFECTIVE.
They weren’t Careful paying that lemon what they paid and he hadn’t snapped one ball amongst OTHERS that CLEARLY ROBBED THIS ORGANIZATION. And stop it with him walking out he has that right. Yall to BIASED with this bullish! They are not ALVIN. Kendra nor Jamel is a AK. Noooo Kendre must stay healthy SHOW ME.
SOME TEAM WILL PAY THIS MAN. Let the Saints not do it AND WATCH WHAT HAPPENS. It’s SAD THIS ORGANIZATION HAD WASTED TONS OF MONEY ON TRASH. AK is far from trash!!! STOP KICKING THE CAN MICKEY LOOMIS, you’ve kicked it for almost a decade. GET PAID AK.
His legs are old. TRADE HIM.
hes good, but i would have traded him before the draft. he doesn’t look that happy. the team is cash strapped. and you wanna keep the vibes positive.
Hold on.. who told you.. That Dallas is team.. 😅 Dallas is trashed and has been trashed.. I don't think any team, right now, in this league should be considered elite.. The refs cheat too much for any team to think of themselves as elite or for any person besides someone with loose screws to think of a team as elite.. Who KC no they want them to seem elite to hype up the sport. As long as they keep cheating people will turn away from the league more and more until the point the NFL will be bankrupt or have a cheating reform and fix itself.
I thought we got rid of all this crap during the offseason.
Trade him for whatever at this point
Last yr he was the 2nd biggest RB contract in the NFL. His cap is massive and he's averaged under 4 YPC. We haven't used him well in 3 seasons and his camp was leaking trade rumors before the deadline 2 seasons ago. We should've traded him then. Dude hasn't earned the contract he has, much less a new one.
I would trade him for a 7 th round pick . That’s all he is worth.
I’m sorry. We are not contenders with kamara. So if we could get a 4th round pick for him. I’ll just trade him. Why add to the cap hell if we’re not competing.
AK deserves job security and his 💰. He has been the heart o f this team. AK didn't have a dip in production, the Louisiana Losers have callously squandered the talents of our stars, especially Kamara: Pay. The. Man.
He's the 2nd highest paid Running Back in the NFL
SAYYYYY DAT!!!! He must SECURE himself. These people are delusional who believe he’s washed. Absolutely not and we seen that with CMC after leaving poo pampers. They can’t tell me it’s over for AK. No way!!! Don’t even count those last 3 years. They better do right because we’ve seen this store not paying and our guys go elsewhere and be ⭐️ stars. Make it make sense!
@@TMama_ 💯 Without AK, the Saints are sunk.
@@akeredun we should be talking about paying Adebo not Kamara.
@@akeredunWe ain’t truly had him the last 3 years.
Lol cmc Broke out when he got to 49ers stop it AK has had a better career with more TDs until recently
They forgot. We didn’t.