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  @lucylightworker2 күн бұрын

  Mage tower flail flex, love it. I only use mine.

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  @ThordrenekGaming2 күн бұрын

  It's just such a cool weapon mog :)

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  @romanshibilski70933 күн бұрын

  Hey, what addon do you use to display your stats in the top left corner?

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  @ThordrenekGaming3 күн бұрын

  It's a weakaura: wago.io/EfIy3LbVH Thanks for the comment!

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  @romanshibilski70933 күн бұрын

  @@ThordrenekGaming thank you for the reply

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  @AppolyonnHyjal4 күн бұрын

  I love the DK. Having all the 535's you can and all the self heals is so OP!! <3 Come do the Boulderfist challenge! kzread.info5YrMCKcnNFk?si=9TqJo27LphBwoCZy

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  @VDHmain5 күн бұрын

  I tank with an organized group around 3200. We were 2400 in season 1 but we pushed each other consistently all expansion and all got much better. We rarely pug and when we do it's one dps or a healer. If I pug alone, it's a homework key that I want to 3-chest as fast as possible. In our situation, we'll look for missing tools first, normally brez cause our comp is low on brez, and then it's IO and IO only. Item level is meaningless and IO is a good predictor of performance, especially for tanks and healers. A bit less so for dps up to the point where buying carries becomes expensive. So many dps pay for carries it's unreal! Plus, lower IO people won't survive my routes. Having to learn extra routes just for pugs is a pain. Want to get into higher keys? Best is to find a static group to learn and improve together. The second option is to pump that io score hard and early and follow the wave. Once your main is high in io, your alts will get invited left and right. When a group like our queues, we have 30 people in the list in less than a minute; 5 minutes and the list is full of 3k+ players. No reason to make the run more difficult by taking a less skilled player unless we feel like doing charity runs.

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  @ThordrenekGaming5 күн бұрын

  Thank you for the insights! Expectations and qualifications definitely get much tighter as you go higher in score.

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  @pudgylittlehamster5 күн бұрын

  nothing, i just pick them. low keys require no thinking

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  @ThordrenekGaming5 күн бұрын

  Yeah low keys this is all less important for sure. This video was targeted at people pushing into harder keys--whatever level that may be for people.

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  @fillupjfry42225 күн бұрын

  Great video Thor!

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  @ThordrenekGaming5 күн бұрын

  Thanks!

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  @driiifter6 күн бұрын

  The best pugs I ran were when people sorted out lust before the key was put in. It's sets a tone of communication at the start and you can see who is reading the chat attempting to coordinate and be aware.

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  @ThordrenekGaming6 күн бұрын

  It really is hard to overstate how valuable communication is. Thanks for the comment!

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  @mobiscuits80366 күн бұрын

  Pardon my ignorance but wtf is a key

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  @ThordrenekGaming6 күн бұрын

  Hey thanks for the question! When we say "keys" in the retail community we're almost always referring to a Mythic+ Dungeon. You need a "Keystone" to start one, and over time "Key" has become shorthand to refer to an entire dungeon.

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  @mobiscuits80366 күн бұрын

  @@ThordrenekGaming I’m only 6 weeks in to playing this game and stuck in panda land…..I’ve a lot to learn

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  @ThordrenekGaming6 күн бұрын

  @@mobiscuits8036 well, welcome to Azeroth! Hope you're enjoying it so far :) There's definitely a ton of information to take in about the game, I'm always happy to answer questions when I'm able to!

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  @AppolyonnHyjal7 күн бұрын

  Remember what I said about running pugs? This is how I warrior tank. Great running with ya the other night kzread.info/dash/bejne/fqSu1ryYiba1grw.html

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  @Mittke887 күн бұрын

  I only select "pumpers", it is bound to fail.

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  @richardwilhoyt63897 күн бұрын

  Or lead a guild key...lol

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  @surin90307 күн бұрын

  Felt like this was made specifically for me. The Tank Anxiety is real. Thank you mate. 🤙🏼 Just a note, if you could add a timestamp structure to breakdowns like these, I’d be grateful for it. I kind of treat these like lectures, going back over sections to comprehend concepts more clearly.

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  @ThordrenekGaming7 күн бұрын

  Thanks! The timestamp thing is my bad, I have them ready and forgot to include them in the description. Editing it now, thanks!

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  @surin90307 күн бұрын

  @@ThordrenekGaming appreciate you. I don’t mean to press you in any way, but I commented on a previous video of yours about Blood DK’s use of Death’s Caress, if you ever have a moment to read over my post, I’d appreciate hearing your feedback.

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  @ThordrenekGaming7 күн бұрын

  Thanks! Sorry I missed that other comment, I'll take a look and reply shortly :)

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  @ThordrenekGaming7 күн бұрын

  I looked through and couldn't find the comment you're referring to, but I'll try to answer here. Death's Caress can be useful for pulling from range, especially when you either 1) are trying to pull two packs together, or 2) don't have any Bone Shield charges. If you have your charges rolling and can grip casters in though, it can be a bit redundant since Blood Boil takes care of applying Blood Plague and should be one of your first GCDs in a pack for threat generation. It can be useful as a "pre-cast" when a boss pull timer is around 1.5 seconds left, but doesn't have a lot of use in raid outside of that. I would definitely have it keybound, but I use it sparingly, maybe 3-4 times at most in a dungeon. Hope that answers the question, if not please let me know here!

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  @surin90307 күн бұрын

  @@ThordrenekGaming reposting question. As Blood DK, what are the scenarios in which “Death’s Caress” is useful? Blood Boil is a free Plague spread & Marrowrend does multiples more of damage and also generates 1 additional Bone Shield charge, when compared to Caress. I know M.R costs 2 runes compared to 1 with Caress, but wouldn’t you just wait for a rune to replenish rather than casting Caress? In my head, it’s a ranged threat generator grip or taunt is on cd, but are there practical applications that I’m missing? For it to be a core ability, I just don’t see the utility of it.

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  @tarix76288 күн бұрын

  Thanks for this one! I took notes on everything. 😅

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  @ThordrenekGaming7 күн бұрын

  You got it!

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  @miloszivkovich8 күн бұрын

  Generally communication is really important, it can save so many keys! Great video👌

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  @ThordrenekGaming7 күн бұрын

  Thanks!

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  @haorob8 күн бұрын

  I feel you left out what to do if the team doesn’t know mechanics and interrupts. How does comps of this proceed.

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  @ThordrenekGaming8 күн бұрын

  Yeah there's definitely a lot more that could be said on this topic but I wanted to scope this to things you can control and consider in the moment. If you end up with a group that doesn't understand the mechanics or isn't using their CC or interrupts, assuming it's a moderate key level, it can be extremely difficult to time (or sometimes even finish) the key. I think the best thing to do there is try to give brief explanations of what to do and use markers and/or pings to try to help people visualize what they need to do. If a situation like that leads to multiple wipes, I think it's okay to politely say something like "We need to kick [ability]. Let's give it one more shot, but I can't be here all night". That may make some people upset, but I don't think people should feel obligated to try to carry for hours on end.

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  @VDHmain5 күн бұрын

  If it's a static group you can discuss and improve. If it's a full pug, it's very unlikely to lead to anyone improving. The best thing to do to improve in M+ is to find a static group.

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  @haorob4 күн бұрын

  @@VDHmain I would like to find a group but I’ve no guild. Any recs on how to get a group together

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  @mpaw83978 күн бұрын

  Interesting video, I mainly pug and have usually tanked, mainly cos my mates I used to play with have moved in years ago. Will take a few pointers on boardI don’t do high keys but usually get to portal keys and stop there and I’m fine with that. My success is reasonable but probably could improve.

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  @ThordrenekGaming8 күн бұрын

  Thanks for the comment! Hope you find success in your keys in TWW!

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  @fillupjfry422210 күн бұрын

  ✅

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  @Thamriell12 күн бұрын

  paladin without a doubt here. all 3 specs but ret is going to be what il focus on

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  @ThordrenekGaming12 күн бұрын

  Nice! Glad you're enjoying it!

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  @johnnymerchant13 күн бұрын

  I was running Grim Batol a while back and thinking that it would slap as M+. Blizzard heard my pleas! Would have been extra interesting with the original ridiculous trash packs.

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  @ThordrenekGaming13 күн бұрын

  Some of the trash packs are pretty rough for sure in the M+ version. I had always thought this would be a cool M+ dungeon as well! We'll see how tuning ends up and if there's any other tweaks planned to it. Thanks for the comment! :)

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  @amandapelland13 күн бұрын

  Huh, the second boss in Grim Batol looks to be a dps check! I'm healing in S1 TWW.

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  @ThordrenekGaming13 күн бұрын

  Thanks for the comment! It's a DPS check in a sense, you can increase the amount of time you have by clearing more trash but it's tricky to do that because of the boss patrolling around.

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  @mpaw839713 күн бұрын

  Good video, thanks mate

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  @fillupjfry422213 күн бұрын

  Thanks Thorski!

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  @jonathannoble765713 күн бұрын

  V DH would be the only tank I play if I played it. I love that spec

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  @VezPlaysGames13 күн бұрын

  Cool vid.. that void boss looks like a pug nightmare lol... tuning will decide though

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  @ThordrenekGaming13 күн бұрын

  It could be, but the mechanics feel pretty intuitive. I think the first two have the highest chance of being pug killers.

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  @rowdyrager-940314 күн бұрын

  I pug tank and will continue to do so. Nerfs aside ill just not be able to pull as much. And if people wanna bitch at me ill just leave and they can wait for another tank i have 28 characters i can play.

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  @ThordrenekGaming13 күн бұрын

  I kinda think pulling slower is one of Blizzard's unspoken goals here. Doing huge pulls is fun but there's already a lot of mechanics (interrupts, unstoppable/unavoidable damage, frontals, etc.) that try to discourage that. Tanks not being able to survive without kiting could be another layer of that. I'm okay with doing smaller pulls but when the timer starts to become an issue double pulling packs is one of the most efficient ways to make up for that--sometimes it's the only way.

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  @Tycon15 күн бұрын

  Wasn't mentioned but while BDK took this one on the chin the hardest, I feel guardian lost pretty hard too. You already dump a bunch of dead talent points to pick up regen and control abilities and now you get even less reward from them and lose out on a lot of % self healing with frenzied regen nerfs. ATWF is OP but with the health scaling changes it wasn't likely that good going into TWW but ursocs nerf just made the talent even more dead. Pulverize nerf made me lol since you don't even take it with druid of the claw talent. Guardian isn't very good in a kite meta if it shifts that way. Couple this with all the resto druid buffs that make the odds you take balance or resto for buffs really have guardian not an attractive option. The only saving grace is with the bad shape Prot pally and BDK look, if you need a tank that can battle rez for keys guardian looks like one of the best picks atm.

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  @ThordrenekGaming14 күн бұрын

  The Guardian nerfs do hit hard, but on the other hand Guardian was somehow the best performing tank on the beta before the nerfs went out. The nerfs do feel very out of touch for it though. Nerfing Pulverize makes me think whoever designed these doesn't even play the spec.

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  @fillupjfry422215 күн бұрын

  Buff Arms 💪💪

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  @AppolyonnHyjal17 күн бұрын

  Fun run

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  @fillupjfry422217 күн бұрын

  Gonna play Arms tank

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  @ThordrenekGaming17 күн бұрын

  Aw yeah!

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  @fillupjfry422217 күн бұрын

  Thanks Thorski!!

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  @silasrobertshaw812217 күн бұрын

  As a healer or dps I appreciate your love and dedication to tanking. I also really like that you didn't just say this is the meta and the meta rules. Having fun while playing is the most important thing.

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  @ThordrenekGaming17 күн бұрын

  Thank you for the comment! At the end of the day this is a video game, haha

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  @putnik199517 күн бұрын

  best change in balancing so far in tww

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  @aaronrios823517 күн бұрын

  Took me a week to decide to main blood dk, thanks blizz now i have to do it all again

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  @ThordrenekGaming17 күн бұрын

  Oof sorry to hear that. Hopefully they respond to all of the feedback and revert some of these changes!

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  @lucamitch3618 күн бұрын

  Tank at the moment = Monk>Warr>>DH>Bear>>>>>Pala>BDK

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  @ThordrenekGaming17 күн бұрын

  That seems to be the relative power ranking of them for sure, though I want to do more testing before I'd lock that in.

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  @pino_de_vogel18 күн бұрын

  Soloing as non tanks will be hilarious f they boose damage of enemies. And it's mainly the dps party healing that is causing this problem. meanwhile healers rely on hots to mmuch and they need better aoe healing and single target healing. or hots need to be way stronger. and as a prot pala mt: do i have a lot if self sustainability? YES. do i have any dps ? N O i am the weakest dps ingame a druid or dk tank has the same syrvivability ut litteraly more then double my dps. is my dps prot pala going to be more then doubled? or am i just being nerfed to take a LOT more damage and still kill 3-4 times as slow as a dps? And the only way i as a prot pala have strong self healing is WOG which DIRECTLY costs me shield upkeep and dps. So we should not even be using that. Meanwhile the other tanks have self healing that does not sacrefice dps. But hey they never treated paladins right... bin mt pala since tbc and it has always bin lacking in some parts. And attacks need to be faster but lower numbers. the damage spikes are caused by absurd numbers incoming in 1 spike. And relying on cd's does NOT WORK. the cooldowns are way to long for this ( 1,3, 5 min ) these changed litteraly make them LESS USABLE.... so we cant absorb spikes with skills... we cant gear to avoid spike and we need to self heal eve more sacrficing dps... they are so ffing clueless most of the time...

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  @thehoax961718 күн бұрын

  I hope DK will be able to heal up again after this huge hit...

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  @optimusd385418 күн бұрын

  How can you have a main before they've finished with the mega nerfs?

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  @ThordrenekGaming17 күн бұрын

  I made and posted this video before nerfs were announced. It seemed reasonable at the time to think they wouldn't do something like this with a month to go before release, but I guess that was incorrect. Still, the nerfs as they are now don't change how I feel about Warrior, and if they're bringing even more nerfs on top of this I don't even know what to say.

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  @optimusd385417 күн бұрын

  @@ThordrenekGaming From experience I wouldn't put anything past them, before the release of Shadowlands Frost Mage was looking the business, which was great since I mained a Mage and it didn't have the complexity of the Arcane or Fire ramps, Blizzard totally gutted the spec the week before release because someone over there panicked it was too strong and it stayed that way for the entire expansion.

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  @ThordrenekGaming17 күн бұрын

  @@optimusd3854 Maybe I'm just coping but I thought they had learned from the mistakes of Shadowlands. /shrug

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  @HeartoftheWinter18 күн бұрын

  I think guardian just lost its identity. It used to be a ball of HP with pretty impressive armor so you could tank physical damage with ease, and had enough HP to survive big magic hits, and the self healing was there to recover from those hits. Now Prot warrior has more physical defenses, vengeance has better hp and more passive magic mitigation. Guardian has no tank identity left, its mid in every aspect.

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  @tarix762818 күн бұрын

  The comment during the DK section how nice it is to be in control of our health hits hard today. As you know I'll be putting some time into learning the Aug side of Evoker, but my personal tank alt list goes something like Monk = Warrior, Demon Hunter, Death Knight, and Blight of the Grizzlemaw. I feel like I forgot a tank but if I forgot it then it must not be important.

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  @ThordrenekGaming17 күн бұрын

  Yeah that DK nerf was not fair lol

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  @AboveAno18 күн бұрын

  As a healer, waiting for tanks to come back crawling on their knees. They had to good a life in df.

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  @pino_de_vogel18 күн бұрын

  99% of my fails in m+ came from healers becoming complacent and lazy so as a tank i cant wait for healers to start complaininghealing is to hard because they got spoiled all expansion. Healers already arent that great and 99% of the wait is for a healer. so next xpac will make finding a group even harder and reachijg high m+ even harder.

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  @AboveAno18 күн бұрын

  @@pino_de_vogel a lot of people are scared of healing because it became twichy healing and spiky. Making it smoothed out might bring ppl.

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  @pino_de_vogel17 күн бұрын

  @@AboveAno Lets hope so because healing this x-pac was terrible, both in finding them and the actual healing (skills). i still think some healers need some drastric buffs tho. And a nerf in dps like tanks lol.

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  @guillaumelabonte270217 күн бұрын

  Yeah, or will you be the one crying when you can't find any tank 🤣🤡

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  @ugladden18 күн бұрын

  Blood Dks pretty much just went back to being DPS😂😂

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  @pino_de_vogel18 күн бұрын

  To be fair a blood dk tank does 2-3 times the dps i do as a prot pala tank... same for druids. prot pala is the lowest on the charts every single time. Of they play the tank part right as avoidance costs dps and avoidance talents cost dps talents.

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  @seth368118 күн бұрын

  Really disappointed to see the changes to blood, I don’t think the spec is dead by any means but it certainly seems like gone are the days of those clutch moments where you’re party goes down and you get to shine and solo the boss down. It’s a shame because those are definitely my most memorable moments as a bdk

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  @ThordrenekGaming18 күн бұрын

  The one positive thing I will say is Bonestorm now contributes to CDR for DRW, which is actually huge. 50 seconds off the CD if you have a 10+ stack.

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  @richardwilhoyt638918 күн бұрын

  the % based heal nerfs, in theory, should be just fine. the nerfs to bear healing should be fine

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  @richardwilhoyt638918 күн бұрын

  make regular kiting a relic of the past...

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  @ThordrenekGaming18 күн бұрын

  Yes PLEASE

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  @Warcakes6618 күн бұрын

  is it not odd that they would make such a massive change in the way the game is fundamentally played so near to launch? I hope this goes well.

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  @ugladden18 күн бұрын

  It's extremely odd. I was literally just saying the same thing. This is something they should've experimented with in the midde of Dragonflight. Not at the start of an expansion

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  @ugladden18 күн бұрын

  It's extremely odd. I was literally just saying the same thing. This is something they should've experimented with in the midde of Dragonflight. Not at the start of an expansion

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  @ThordrenekGaming18 күн бұрын

  Yeah the timing is very concerning for sure. They don't have much time to get this right and doing it right will take a LOT of targeted tuning and iteration.

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  @Gumblethebear18 күн бұрын

  They are giving to test this on live and half of the M+ community will leave. They are currently banning anyone who says negative things about it on the forum. They are actively trying to kill their own game

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  @gohomehero18 күн бұрын

  Looking forward to tanking AND healing in TWW. Might take actual thought and actually feel engaging now.

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  @pino_de_vogel18 күн бұрын

  im worried fiding a party with a competent healer is going to be a pain tho. i pretty much ony went with priest healers this xpac as fav as tghe rest seemed pretty much lackluster healing wise. shaman was a solid second but tends to lose dps in ranged parties and druids just cant seem to keep up with hots beng to low healing and i dont even want to talk about evokers... Barely saw a pala healer so i guess they are terrible to play.

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  @psionic_reverie18 күн бұрын

  Interesting breakdown! Not a tank main or a theorycrafter, so it's super helpful for you walk through the impact of the patch notes. Not the way I wanted it to happen, but kind of excited Brewmaster might move up to the 2 spot since I'm a Monk main.

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  @ThordrenekGaming18 күн бұрын

  I do love Brew, I mained it in S2 of Dragonflight and for half of Shadowlands

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  @mynameisandycook118 күн бұрын

  I've seen your comment, word for word, on 3 videos now.... What are you doing?

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  @trlspann18 күн бұрын

  My desire to tank in season 1 has just diminished greatly.

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  @guillaumelabonte270217 күн бұрын

  Same, it already did with the vengeance assasination but now.. why even bother

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  @richard_n18 күн бұрын

  No offense, but your guild is gonna be struggling with multiple Prot Pallys. They got nerfed pretty hard today. Prot Warrior and Brewmaster are looking like the best tanks right now since Blood got nerfed hard as well.

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  @ThordrenekGaming18 күн бұрын

  Sorry if I misspoke, we have multiple Ret Paladins, not Prot Paladins.