slight tipp here from a blacksmith. always hammer your piece supported, otherwise the energy is lost and the vibrations go right into your hands causing lots of little problems. so I advise you to lay a piece of wood on the anvil and then tap the ring on the mandrel flat on that. quicker and safer. and never put your thumb on the top! again your trapping vibrations sending them into your body/finger.
@eddieboyle312326 күн бұрын
How big is my finger
@jimmy_jamesjams_a_lot417129 күн бұрын
Nice brass mallet. Wow!?! Copper washers the size of a penny for only a penny!! And quarter sized washers for only a quarter! That mallet and mandrel combo is just the ticket. Ive got to get me one of those discs. I never knew it was so easy to go from a disc to a cylindrical ring. Thanks for sharing about this!
@andycollectionjewelryАй бұрын
Nice😊
@janodeblauwer8692Ай бұрын
Whats that matel cone shape thing called
@joshuathejewelerАй бұрын
It’s a ring mandrel
@essiccАй бұрын
Instead of using a die reduction… did you just use the circular thing from the band stretcher and reducer with the cone?! I’m getting into this and am learning and I think I just noticed you did that?!
@joshuathejewelerАй бұрын
Indeed, I don’t own reduction dies but I do have a larger coin ring reducer die by Skylar Jenkins. I use that or a dapping block to fold large coins.
@essiccАй бұрын
Thank you for replying so quickly! You just solved a problem I was running into! I’m bout to get everything and was stumped when I saw what you used. Helped me realize that the die reductions are the same. So in your opinion. I’d be fine with a 17 degree cone and the normal stretcher/reducer plate? I was thinking of buying ball bearings as well as the cone for my press. I also considered that it may be a good idea to have one 1” die reduction in case I get a tough coin
@joshuathejewelerАй бұрын
@@essicc I think you're on the right track. Most reduction dies are a bit small in the largest hole (only big enough to fold a quarter) so keep that in mind. The Skylar Jenkins stretcher from Pepe tools is significantly larger. I personally use a 2.5" dapping block (the 2" block is not big enough) and dapping punches to fold coins as large as a silver eagle. You don't necessarily need a 17 degree cone if you have a dapping set. You can also get nylon/delrin dapping punches too. Lastly I do recommend a Swedish wrap set. If you plan on doing big coins it's hard to get that nice straight wall without it.
@essiccАй бұрын
@@joshuathejeweler ok thanks for the info! I’m a bit nervous to not have propper tools. So the block does just as well as a reduction due is what interpreting?…
@joshuathejewelerАй бұрын
@@essicc Yes basically. I don't own any reducing dies except the ones that come with a ring sizer. But if you feel you need them then go for it.
@michaeledwards59542 ай бұрын
Wow. Really enjoyed watching that. I'm an amateur blacksmith that has wanted to dabble a bit with copper, I'm keener than ever to have a go.
@joshuathejeweler2 ай бұрын
Go for it! I started out as a blacksmith. Make a few copper bracelets at a live demo event and I bet you’ll have customers wanting to buy them right away.
@adiem16532 ай бұрын
Thats my type of coin ring making no 17 degree dies and cones or swedish wrapping lol
@user-ud4mb8li4u2 ай бұрын
iliketohaveonering10size
@user-ud4mb8li4u2 ай бұрын
Howmuchisatring
@user-sy3vz3rb5q3 ай бұрын
Can I buy jewelry by u pls send me ure nr. Ansie
@SwedishCowgirl73 ай бұрын
Where did you get your steel block that also holds your bench block?
@joshuathejeweler2 ай бұрын
If you’re in the US Otto Frei or Amazon has them. Search for bench pin with steel block.
@SwedishCowgirl73 ай бұрын
Such a graceful and elegant bracelet!❤ Thank you for sharing your process!
@jjjohn59143 ай бұрын
Please explain the process as you perform it.
@lawrencebarrett28423 ай бұрын
you took the detail off?
@66lwmorgan3 ай бұрын
I've seen these video's and most of them heat the coin before forming it. What keeps yours from splitting? Nice video.
@joshuathejeweler3 ай бұрын
Newer coins are quite malleable, however they will crack if over worked. I find I can get most to between sizes 6 & 9 before they start to show signs of stress.
@66lwmorgan3 ай бұрын
@@joshuathejeweler Ok, thank you for the reply.
@letterperestroika52804 ай бұрын
I want one like this price 🧡🧡🧡🤗
@flambojan_lab4 ай бұрын
Grazie per la diffusione di contenuti e informazioni. Buon lavoro
@keithhampton97005 ай бұрын
Did you anneal the coin before?
@joshuathejeweler5 ай бұрын
Not usually for a standard quarter but I may for older coins as they tend to be more work hardened
@Mainesullivan6665 ай бұрын
Do you shave the back of your hands?
@lindawallace67506 ай бұрын
Do you sell coin rings you make ??
@joshuathejeweler6 ай бұрын
Yes I do on joshuathejeweler.com
@soniaryman12626 ай бұрын
great job ! very fast too.
@nadjatalidrissi83556 ай бұрын
❤❤❤❤
@esthergreenwood40197 ай бұрын
My father took a coun and a needle, he hit the coin in the middel for days with the needle every so many days he wil use a thicker needle. it eventualy made a ring.
@ScarlettPomerantz-mv1me7 ай бұрын
Aaahhh, I love it 🥰
@CrucesNomad17 ай бұрын
I would like to order 100 of these, can you have them here by tomorrow? Say a nickle a piece and you ship free correct?
@joshuathejeweler7 ай бұрын
Sure thing but I must receive payment up front in graded 1937-D three-legged buffalo nickels, $5 total face value. No refunds. ;)
@williammedenwald5027 ай бұрын
Very cool but illegal.
@Keith-rk4td29 күн бұрын
Only if you sell it. I'm sure the federal bank reserve could not really give a.
@valeriachiappe91827 ай бұрын
Bello grazie
@glorinhapoty46077 ай бұрын
Parabéns
@CrucesNomad17 ай бұрын
Yep, have to drop it at least once on the floor.
@4everseekingwisdom6908 ай бұрын
Is there a huge market for rings made from quarter's? I see tons of videos on the subject .. are they lucrative at all?
@kaspar_19829 ай бұрын
could the coin be pierced and rolled rather than taking a plug out of it so that a gold or silver coin retains its weight? i like the idea of the ring weighing its face value.
@joshuathejeweler9 ай бұрын
I haven't seen anyone do this successfully. The challenge is the inner material would be spread so thin it would crack very easily making it difficult to form the ring. That being said the punched pieces make nice earrings, tie tacks and cuff links. With larger coins like Morgan dollars I can even make a second ring from the center piece.
@kaspar_19829 ай бұрын
maybe using the purest k and heating to some point below melt although you would probably end up with a plain gold ring. it bears experimentation. the plug could be pressed back into the ring perhaps.@@joshuathejeweler
@maxipro669 ай бұрын
Can you only use certain coins, like not with a high zinc content
@joshuathejeweler9 ай бұрын
Most brass, copper, nickel, gold and silver coins will work for ring making if you are careful. I avoid steel coins and zinc pennies however. Steel can mar my tools, and zinc pennies just aren't very malleable and the copper cladding separates from the zinc interior.
@omarsalkamusic11 ай бұрын
Very cool!!
@Tonyoh.11 ай бұрын
Why does the coin not crack, without annealing?..
@joshuathejeweler10 ай бұрын
The coin is made from copper and nickel which are very tough metals (ie they will bend a lot before breaking). It will work harden and crack however if I go too far, and older coins tend to be work hardened already so I anneal those.
@Tonyoh.10 ай бұрын
@@joshuathejeweler Thanx for your reply. Be well.
@dgeert598311 ай бұрын
Why do you not heat them up and quench them? Whenever I dont heat, they start to tear?? Great process btw !
@joshuathejeweler10 ай бұрын
I've found with newer quarters (less than 25 years old) I can generally size them to about a size 9 ring without annealing. They will crack if over-worked and for larger sizes or older coins I will anneal them. When stretching the coin only stretch a little bit at a time and turn the coin about 1/8 of a turn with every stretch so you aren't overworking one area of the coin.
@scuffy44 Жыл бұрын
No annealing?
@joshuathejeweler Жыл бұрын
Not for this one but I do anneal for older coins or larger ring sizes
@ziggyjojie4275 Жыл бұрын
Wow
@joshuathejeweler Жыл бұрын
If you're looking to purchase tools for coin ring making, I have links to all the tools in this video here: www.joshuathejeweler.com/post/new-video-making-a-ring-from-a-quarter
@obiobiwan9268 Жыл бұрын
I love watching this. So far it's only been 3 times.
@obiobiwan9268 Жыл бұрын
I've spent about $300 and still cannot make a ring out of a 50 cent piece
@joshuathejeweler10 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear you're having trouble with coin ring making. Half dollars are a bit tougher to move than quarters, so they take more patience and slightly different tools. The older silver one's can crack easily too so they need to be annealed frequently. I typically use an arbor press, and swedish wrap dies for those coins. I'm happy to help if there's a specific part of the process you're hung up on.
@chriscamp8608 Жыл бұрын
So where can we buy some ??
@redgolf845 Жыл бұрын
Very impressive craftmanship sir!!!
@KingJamie2229 Жыл бұрын
All that metal to metal contact you have with your die, Don't you lose a lot of detail?
@joshuathejeweler Жыл бұрын
Actually no, not with a modern quarter. The nickel is very tough and doesn’t deform much and the only part of the coin in contact with the die is the very edge of the outside and inside rim. Silver coins are a different story however because they are softer.
@KingJamie2229 Жыл бұрын
@@joshuathejeweler ty, I have never seen it done that way, I think I'll try it.
@joeskinner6009 Жыл бұрын
Very cool
@tgmickey513 Жыл бұрын
Sweet! Don't use current circulation coins though, it's technically a felony to deface legal tender.
@dfromcp Жыл бұрын
Ok, now that you've shown how is it is let me buy one for $10... well $10.25 😂
@johntatman8182 Жыл бұрын
Man the technique has changed from the sixties hasn't it. We used to beat on the edges with a spoon till it gets wide enough and then drill out the center and then take a rasp and bore it out to size sand it down polish it look like a real silver ring except for one thing your shows the whole thing ours didn't great job master
@joshuathejeweler Жыл бұрын
Yep that’s the old school way, it takes a bit more patience :)
Пікірлер
slight tipp here from a blacksmith. always hammer your piece supported, otherwise the energy is lost and the vibrations go right into your hands causing lots of little problems. so I advise you to lay a piece of wood on the anvil and then tap the ring on the mandrel flat on that. quicker and safer. and never put your thumb on the top! again your trapping vibrations sending them into your body/finger.
How big is my finger
Nice brass mallet. Wow!?! Copper washers the size of a penny for only a penny!! And quarter sized washers for only a quarter! That mallet and mandrel combo is just the ticket. Ive got to get me one of those discs. I never knew it was so easy to go from a disc to a cylindrical ring. Thanks for sharing about this!
Nice😊
Whats that matel cone shape thing called
It’s a ring mandrel
Instead of using a die reduction… did you just use the circular thing from the band stretcher and reducer with the cone?! I’m getting into this and am learning and I think I just noticed you did that?!
Indeed, I don’t own reduction dies but I do have a larger coin ring reducer die by Skylar Jenkins. I use that or a dapping block to fold large coins.
Thank you for replying so quickly! You just solved a problem I was running into! I’m bout to get everything and was stumped when I saw what you used. Helped me realize that the die reductions are the same. So in your opinion. I’d be fine with a 17 degree cone and the normal stretcher/reducer plate? I was thinking of buying ball bearings as well as the cone for my press. I also considered that it may be a good idea to have one 1” die reduction in case I get a tough coin
@@essicc I think you're on the right track. Most reduction dies are a bit small in the largest hole (only big enough to fold a quarter) so keep that in mind. The Skylar Jenkins stretcher from Pepe tools is significantly larger. I personally use a 2.5" dapping block (the 2" block is not big enough) and dapping punches to fold coins as large as a silver eagle. You don't necessarily need a 17 degree cone if you have a dapping set. You can also get nylon/delrin dapping punches too. Lastly I do recommend a Swedish wrap set. If you plan on doing big coins it's hard to get that nice straight wall without it.
@@joshuathejeweler ok thanks for the info! I’m a bit nervous to not have propper tools. So the block does just as well as a reduction due is what interpreting?…
@@essicc Yes basically. I don't own any reducing dies except the ones that come with a ring sizer. But if you feel you need them then go for it.
Wow. Really enjoyed watching that. I'm an amateur blacksmith that has wanted to dabble a bit with copper, I'm keener than ever to have a go.
Go for it! I started out as a blacksmith. Make a few copper bracelets at a live demo event and I bet you’ll have customers wanting to buy them right away.
Thats my type of coin ring making no 17 degree dies and cones or swedish wrapping lol
iliketohaveonering10size
Howmuchisatring
Can I buy jewelry by u pls send me ure nr. Ansie
Where did you get your steel block that also holds your bench block?
If you’re in the US Otto Frei or Amazon has them. Search for bench pin with steel block.
Such a graceful and elegant bracelet!❤ Thank you for sharing your process!
Please explain the process as you perform it.
you took the detail off?
I've seen these video's and most of them heat the coin before forming it. What keeps yours from splitting? Nice video.
Newer coins are quite malleable, however they will crack if over worked. I find I can get most to between sizes 6 & 9 before they start to show signs of stress.
@@joshuathejeweler Ok, thank you for the reply.
I want one like this price 🧡🧡🧡🤗
Grazie per la diffusione di contenuti e informazioni. Buon lavoro
Did you anneal the coin before?
Not usually for a standard quarter but I may for older coins as they tend to be more work hardened
Do you shave the back of your hands?
Do you sell coin rings you make ??
Yes I do on joshuathejeweler.com
great job ! very fast too.
❤❤❤❤
My father took a coun and a needle, he hit the coin in the middel for days with the needle every so many days he wil use a thicker needle. it eventualy made a ring.
Aaahhh, I love it 🥰
I would like to order 100 of these, can you have them here by tomorrow? Say a nickle a piece and you ship free correct?
Sure thing but I must receive payment up front in graded 1937-D three-legged buffalo nickels, $5 total face value. No refunds. ;)
Very cool but illegal.
Only if you sell it. I'm sure the federal bank reserve could not really give a.
Bello grazie
Parabéns
Yep, have to drop it at least once on the floor.
Is there a huge market for rings made from quarter's? I see tons of videos on the subject .. are they lucrative at all?
could the coin be pierced and rolled rather than taking a plug out of it so that a gold or silver coin retains its weight? i like the idea of the ring weighing its face value.
I haven't seen anyone do this successfully. The challenge is the inner material would be spread so thin it would crack very easily making it difficult to form the ring. That being said the punched pieces make nice earrings, tie tacks and cuff links. With larger coins like Morgan dollars I can even make a second ring from the center piece.
maybe using the purest k and heating to some point below melt although you would probably end up with a plain gold ring. it bears experimentation. the plug could be pressed back into the ring perhaps.@@joshuathejeweler
Can you only use certain coins, like not with a high zinc content
Most brass, copper, nickel, gold and silver coins will work for ring making if you are careful. I avoid steel coins and zinc pennies however. Steel can mar my tools, and zinc pennies just aren't very malleable and the copper cladding separates from the zinc interior.
Very cool!!
Why does the coin not crack, without annealing?..
The coin is made from copper and nickel which are very tough metals (ie they will bend a lot before breaking). It will work harden and crack however if I go too far, and older coins tend to be work hardened already so I anneal those.
@@joshuathejeweler Thanx for your reply. Be well.
Why do you not heat them up and quench them? Whenever I dont heat, they start to tear?? Great process btw !
I've found with newer quarters (less than 25 years old) I can generally size them to about a size 9 ring without annealing. They will crack if over-worked and for larger sizes or older coins I will anneal them. When stretching the coin only stretch a little bit at a time and turn the coin about 1/8 of a turn with every stretch so you aren't overworking one area of the coin.
No annealing?
Not for this one but I do anneal for older coins or larger ring sizes
Wow
If you're looking to purchase tools for coin ring making, I have links to all the tools in this video here: www.joshuathejeweler.com/post/new-video-making-a-ring-from-a-quarter
I love watching this. So far it's only been 3 times.
I've spent about $300 and still cannot make a ring out of a 50 cent piece
Sorry to hear you're having trouble with coin ring making. Half dollars are a bit tougher to move than quarters, so they take more patience and slightly different tools. The older silver one's can crack easily too so they need to be annealed frequently. I typically use an arbor press, and swedish wrap dies for those coins. I'm happy to help if there's a specific part of the process you're hung up on.
So where can we buy some ??
Very impressive craftmanship sir!!!
All that metal to metal contact you have with your die, Don't you lose a lot of detail?
Actually no, not with a modern quarter. The nickel is very tough and doesn’t deform much and the only part of the coin in contact with the die is the very edge of the outside and inside rim. Silver coins are a different story however because they are softer.
@@joshuathejeweler ty, I have never seen it done that way, I think I'll try it.
Very cool
Sweet! Don't use current circulation coins though, it's technically a felony to deface legal tender.
Ok, now that you've shown how is it is let me buy one for $10... well $10.25 😂
Man the technique has changed from the sixties hasn't it. We used to beat on the edges with a spoon till it gets wide enough and then drill out the center and then take a rasp and bore it out to size sand it down polish it look like a real silver ring except for one thing your shows the whole thing ours didn't great job master
Yep that’s the old school way, it takes a bit more patience :)
Silver spoon handles make nice men's rings 😎
They’re pretty popular with the ladies too :)
i need one of those brother
Coulda done it in under 2 if not so clumsy
I have another video under 1 minute :)