I'm a recovering Wedding Photographer, HomeBrewer of Mead, Wine, Cider and Beer, and a guy who just likes to make videos. I like to share what I've learned along the way and offer hints and tips for KZreadrs like myself. -B
Wow, you may have just helped make my decision for me. Thank you for this video.
@Brianized4 күн бұрын
Glad to help.
@themanwhoknewtoomuch66679 күн бұрын
But even if a video gets views, due to low engagement, it won't be pushed right?
@Brianized8 күн бұрын
Low engagement is just one factor.
@themanwhoknewtoomuch66679 күн бұрын
A new noname person with a channel theoretically can do something really mindboggling like solve a brilliant problem or craft something... but for that new user with 0 subs it would be nothing but uphill battle. S/he can do all the things right: right thumbnail, good title, tags, keywords, subtitles, good editing... sometimes it just boils down to pure luck. Or else all those cra-ppy shorts wouldn't surface to see the daylight and 60 million views. Then again if that is what public wants so be it. Let their brain rot. Also KZread likes to push certain type of contents that THEY find agreeble with. Not always the popular video reflects current taste of the populace.
@Brianized8 күн бұрын
There is a lot to it!
@themanwhoknewtoomuch66679 күн бұрын
Thank you Brian. Loved this. Much better than those agencies like ThinkMedia, VidIQ, Tubebuddy et al. that keeps churning out "NOBODY CARES ABOUT YOU" "YOUR VIDEO IS JUST NOT THAT GOOD". Also you can back it up since you have a video with over million views. First time viewer, so not sure what your brand is... but this is a good topic to hear from you!
@isharatosha480811 күн бұрын
Thanks for the advice...simple and straightforward
@toddstropicals14 күн бұрын
Lol, yeah that company is a big old NO. I agree with you!
@Brianized14 күн бұрын
Most "deals" are that way.
@GabrielYeager14 күн бұрын
Amazon Affiliate is where it is at, no doubt!
@Brianized14 күн бұрын
Agreed.
@johnnicotera716521 күн бұрын
Jeep repair
@Brianized20 күн бұрын
What?
@shieldontario923324 күн бұрын
Learned recently that people are taking royalty free music and signing it up with a PRO fraudulently so they can try and scam people out of their well deserved money, i have a hunch that may of happened...
@Brianized23 күн бұрын
Maybe, but it backfired a little.
@FrightChannel24 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for this. I needed this.
@CallistoWolf25 күн бұрын
I also feel like those types of ads are useless and always skip past them. Some creators put in chapters that make it easier to skip the ad which I appreciate. I think the issue stems from ad-blockers neutering all the google ads which cut into the creator's budget. Some of them likely felt they had no other option but to have these baked sponsored ads. Ya'll were smart setting up your membership stuff off site you can skip the ad stuff all together.
@CallistoWolf26 күн бұрын
The lager pun got me good lol
@blsherrell1Ай бұрын
I like making it with the inverted method 😊
@BrianizedАй бұрын
Seems a bit risky to me but many do like it.
@GeorgeSmythАй бұрын
Brian - As a retired person who writes music and offers it through a Creative Commons license at the cost of simply giving me credit in the description, since I own 100% of the rights I can offer you (or, actually, any other creator reading this) a group of clips for use, abuse, or non-use. Just let me know what you're looking for and its length and I'd be glad to send you something to have in your pocket to do with as you wish. This is a hobby of mine (I've got over 200 full-length pieces on my blog) so remuneration is not a thing.
@BrianizedАй бұрын
Thanks! I really appreciate the offer. I might not take you up on it much though as usually when editing, it's a spur of the moment feeling type of thing what music I need, so, it's hard to place an order, so to speak, but it's really cool you're offering that.
@covertonАй бұрын
I have to wonder if it's actually pixabay themselves or a copyright troll just being awful. This happens a lot in the gaming world, specifically with nintendo. Copyright trolls will claim a video on behalf of nintendo and instead of doing due diligence, youtube just strikes it or warns the channel or whatever and gives revenue to nintendo. Not saying its the case here, but it isn't out of the realm of possibility.
@BrianizedАй бұрын
It's not a KZread initiated thing afaik, the creator has to do it. That said, you're probably right, it's copyright trolls.
@TheTriFyreАй бұрын
I'll say what you can't say .. That's BULLSHIT!!! Complete bullshit scam. No true ARTIST would do something like that! Only sad failures would resort to that level of scumbagary!!!😢 I send you some acoustic clips. I'll sign the rights over to you for a bottle if mead that I will receive if ever in the area. Really disappointing 😞
@BrianizedАй бұрын
Technically that is selling it and... I cannot do that 😀
@TheTriFyreАй бұрын
@@Brianized 😆 ffs, all the hoops... I'll take a glass bottle. The contents are irrelevant!
@chrish4977Ай бұрын
I have had the same issue with GoPro music. I even used the same song in a short and it had no issues used it in a video and it had a copyright. I really wish they would just take a small percentage for copyright music especially if it was only a few seconds of a song. Using the whole song is one thing using 10 or 20 seconds is another.
@BrianizedАй бұрын
Well... you're not supposed to use copyrighted music at all. It's actually against the law. This video is about music intended for use in videos of this type. They even give a license for this purpose.
@chrish4977Ай бұрын
@@Brianized GoPro origanal music is supposed to be copyright free, They have a number of songs that gets copyrighted when its not supposed to.
@BrianizedАй бұрын
Oh, apologies then!
@ThatHobbyАй бұрын
I used Pixabay for a while but I didn't read the fine print that says it is not for commercial use. I got a few copyright claims from them too. I was able to use the KZread edit tool to change the music. So I was able to keep my ad revenue for my videos. I have a Motion Array subscription now but I still get copyright claims. I have to copy my Motion Array license to use the music and submit it to get the claim removed. It's kind of annoying.
@BrianizedАй бұрын
I never saw that. Interesting.
@BrianizedАй бұрын
I just checked... their own FAQ says it's fine form commercial use: pixabay.com/service/faq/#:~:text=You%20can%20copy%2C%20modify%2C%20distribute,more%20about%20the%20Pixabay%20license.
@ThatHobbyАй бұрын
@@Brianized It's kind of ambiguous though. I read under the License summary that you can't use it for commercial purposes.
@BrianizedАй бұрын
Well if that's true that explains it and that will be the last time I use Pixabay!
@jamesvatter5729Ай бұрын
KZread is becoming a joke with their demonitization "rules." This sounds like outsiders have found ways to exploit it for your loss and their gain.
@BrianizedАй бұрын
It's not just youtube. Also, it's copyright violation, not YT's fault at all. If they didn't do anything when someone files a claim, they would be legally liable. YT isn't filing the claims, people are. Is it an exploit? Sure, but it's not just YT.
@kh73068Ай бұрын
But it IS YT's duty to do Due Dilligence, so that IS TY's fault
@BrianizedАй бұрын
Due diligence of what? They are doing what is legally required when a copyright claim is made. They are not a legal or governing body and have no right to judge on that claim. All they can do is alert the other parties and go from there. They do have systems in place to protect both sides. YT is totally not culpable in this.
@zonmanАй бұрын
Brian, it's not just Pixabay. I have musician friends who have put THEIR OWN original music in KZread videos and wound up in the same situation as you because someone claimed the music as their own. These scammers make money off copyright claims when KZread forces the content creators to either split their revenue or risk not being allowed to generate any for a period of time, as you stated here. So I'm not defending Pixabay specifically, but letting you know the same shenanigans are happening to others with no connection to them.
@BrianizedАй бұрын
I assumed it wasn't just them. Crazy music creators are having it happen!
@dy1anАй бұрын
Urgh, the hoops of bullshit you have to jump through 💩
@BrianizedАй бұрын
I just use YT music and all is well.
@harryfollbaumiii6747Ай бұрын
Why don't you band together with your fellow content creators and boycott these places that are doing this?
@BrianizedАй бұрын
This video is to raise awareness. Before I start a revolt, I figured letting people know was a good idea.
@Yo-Da-ActionАй бұрын
@@Brianized Thanks for letting us creators know of the issues they're helping to create...
@trishdeneenАй бұрын
That's disturbing. I make videos elsewhere and will have to reconsider Pixabay now. I'm sorry that happened to you. Thanks for the heads up.
@BrianizedАй бұрын
Yeah, kinda crazy. As I dug into it, seems this is happening more and more.
@charlesweaver-cj2pwАй бұрын
In 2006 I had my hip replaced. The surgeon informed me that quitting smoking 1 month before surgery would extremely improve the odds of successful surgery and full recovery. Even though I had smoked for over 41 years, major surgery was a darn good reason to stop. The morning I quit smoking, there were 3 cigarettes on my end table. I still have them. After not smoking for over a month I realized that I no longer wanted to smoke but I didn't even like smelling second hand smoke. Plus the money I saved was huge. I have followed you for over 3 years. You are a very smart and capable man. Quitting smoking will not only improve your health, but also your sense of taste and smell as well. Hang in there, I have confidence in you.
@BrianizedАй бұрын
Thanks and cool story. It was a stress crutch, and... it's over now. 😀
@leeammons8047Ай бұрын
I have to try this now
@trentwaltersАй бұрын
Wow I love bourbon also I notice something Brian did we take the plunge with the watch
@BrianizedАй бұрын
Hmm?
@trentwaltersАй бұрын
@@Brianized I noticed on some of your videos you mentioned before about not wanting to buy an Apple Watch I just noticed for some reason it seemed like this video one was in your wrist or it seemed it was one to me
@BrianizedАй бұрын
Ahh gotcha! It's a Fitbit actually.
@trentwaltersАй бұрын
@@Brianized ok haha I thought it was apple
@leifd731Ай бұрын
My favorites are Woodford reserve double oaked and Old Forester 1910. My daughter works at a distillery in Manhattan, NYC and is going to get a 4 grain bourbon they make for me, Idk what that's going to taste like but I'm looking forward to it! Cheers!
@garystielow232Ай бұрын
I consider myself a slight bourbon snob, and Penelope blends some really good stuff.
@tommyg957Ай бұрын
As a current 107 holder. I can attest to those shots being 100% legal! Thank you for that video. I got quite the chuckle.
@BrianizedАй бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@ronthebulletguy2754Ай бұрын
Bought by MGP in June 2023.
@BrianizedАй бұрын
I can't decide if that's a good or bad thing, lol.
@ronthebulletguy2754Ай бұрын
For the snobs, it's a bad thing. It means they do not distill on site. They only barrel finish. For the non snobs, it doesn't matter. Does it taste good. If so, then drink it.
@BrianizedАй бұрын
My point is they have taken some beverages down but made others better.
@ronthebulletguy2754Ай бұрын
No worries, I'm not a MGP hater. It's just nice to know if these smaller companies are true " craft" distillers or using a mass produced distillate.
@pidlid1970Ай бұрын
Founded 2018
@BrianizedАй бұрын
Cool, thanks.
@annamarialovicario3370Ай бұрын
Which batteries do you use?
@BrianizedАй бұрын
I honestly don't remember. It's been years.
@johnhaddenham3189Ай бұрын
I love playing D&D with your librarian friend! She's awesome.
@BrianizedАй бұрын
We do too!
@pidlid1970Ай бұрын
I think you just spent more on crackstachios than I spend on a weekly shop!!!🤪🤪
@BrianizedАй бұрын
Lol
@BrianizedАй бұрын
We only get to Costco every couple months 😀
@deadeyedave444Ай бұрын
I would only add that one should try to play their stats as well. I'm currently in an online game where I'm playing a character with a low Wisdom score. I've been repeatedly making poor judgment calls on his behalf, like charging into fights that are very iffy when the party's resources are low, or doing foolish/dangerous things to spring traps, etc. Many of my fellow party members say, "No, Dave, what are you *doing*? You're going to get killed! Can't you see how many of them there are? I only have one heal spell left!" To which I reply, "Take a look at my Wisdom! My character doesn't make good decisions often!" They've learned to coach my character ahead of time and give him a party member to pay attention to for cues on what to do. "From now on, you don't attack unless you see Bultorn attack first!" Which leaves me happily holding initiative to see what he's doing first. LOL I love it. But you can play other abilities too. Like if your character has a low Dex, he/she will have a much harder time being confident crossing that rope bridge, etc. Love the new hair Derica! Don't worry, as a DM I've had worse on-the-fly name generation than "Princess Doofusface." LMAO. But not by much.
@BrianizedАй бұрын
Absolutely true, but another whole video, lol.
@deadeyedave444Ай бұрын
@@Brianized LOL OK, fair
@rcairnutАй бұрын
I see why this is not for me, but I am glad you enjoy it.
@kenw7098Ай бұрын
The fish.....yeah that was a great scene. I miss Pinkie and Tikitocken Glitersporcken whatever...still the best name ever by the way.
@debrabogart8029Ай бұрын
Ah, good ole Princess Whatshername... lol Good times!
@travisgrimforgeАй бұрын
That's one of the only reasons I have my players have their phone on. If it's a story specific piece of info that's important I'll email them the response and they have to relay the info as their character
@Buster-SharpАй бұрын
I’m loving the booze news, and I take back everything I said about your cohost, who’s name escapes me, but I’m coming to love them. It’s all great and that isn’t just the booze talking, but I am rather lit 😆
@maxwell-gn2jnАй бұрын
Just use it. Stop letting the FFA run your lives. It's just ANOTHER tax! FFA should not be able to say you can fly a small drone but can't use the footage in KZread. Wake up guys!
@BrianizedАй бұрын
Erm... please don't. It's against the law and you will face fines for it. Those rules exist for a reason. Commercial usage is commercial usage. The license isn't even that hard to get.
@TheTriFyreАй бұрын
😂😂😂😂 I've had a stomach thing for the past couple of weeks, so haven't been able to drink, but I have to tell you that watching this with... herbal inspiration... is frickin HILARIOUS 😂! BTW, all Mezcal and Tequila should come with a bottle of headache pills😂
@BrianizedАй бұрын
Hope you're feeling better!
@MrAcuta73Ай бұрын
I just had a shower beer after I got home from work. Shower beer should never be underestimated. Not sure I need a special beer for it, Black Butte Porter works fine.
@BrianizedАй бұрын
LOL
@1boortzfan2 ай бұрын
I used to like to watch my uncle's hog get drunk from eating fermented slop.
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Wow, you may have just helped make my decision for me. Thank you for this video.
Glad to help.
But even if a video gets views, due to low engagement, it won't be pushed right?
Low engagement is just one factor.
A new noname person with a channel theoretically can do something really mindboggling like solve a brilliant problem or craft something... but for that new user with 0 subs it would be nothing but uphill battle. S/he can do all the things right: right thumbnail, good title, tags, keywords, subtitles, good editing... sometimes it just boils down to pure luck. Or else all those cra-ppy shorts wouldn't surface to see the daylight and 60 million views. Then again if that is what public wants so be it. Let their brain rot. Also KZread likes to push certain type of contents that THEY find agreeble with. Not always the popular video reflects current taste of the populace.
There is a lot to it!
Thank you Brian. Loved this. Much better than those agencies like ThinkMedia, VidIQ, Tubebuddy et al. that keeps churning out "NOBODY CARES ABOUT YOU" "YOUR VIDEO IS JUST NOT THAT GOOD". Also you can back it up since you have a video with over million views. First time viewer, so not sure what your brand is... but this is a good topic to hear from you!
Thanks for the advice...simple and straightforward
Lol, yeah that company is a big old NO. I agree with you!
Most "deals" are that way.
Amazon Affiliate is where it is at, no doubt!
Agreed.
Jeep repair
What?
Learned recently that people are taking royalty free music and signing it up with a PRO fraudulently so they can try and scam people out of their well deserved money, i have a hunch that may of happened...
Maybe, but it backfired a little.
Thank you so much for this. I needed this.
I also feel like those types of ads are useless and always skip past them. Some creators put in chapters that make it easier to skip the ad which I appreciate. I think the issue stems from ad-blockers neutering all the google ads which cut into the creator's budget. Some of them likely felt they had no other option but to have these baked sponsored ads. Ya'll were smart setting up your membership stuff off site you can skip the ad stuff all together.
The lager pun got me good lol
I like making it with the inverted method 😊
Seems a bit risky to me but many do like it.
Brian - As a retired person who writes music and offers it through a Creative Commons license at the cost of simply giving me credit in the description, since I own 100% of the rights I can offer you (or, actually, any other creator reading this) a group of clips for use, abuse, or non-use. Just let me know what you're looking for and its length and I'd be glad to send you something to have in your pocket to do with as you wish. This is a hobby of mine (I've got over 200 full-length pieces on my blog) so remuneration is not a thing.
Thanks! I really appreciate the offer. I might not take you up on it much though as usually when editing, it's a spur of the moment feeling type of thing what music I need, so, it's hard to place an order, so to speak, but it's really cool you're offering that.
I have to wonder if it's actually pixabay themselves or a copyright troll just being awful. This happens a lot in the gaming world, specifically with nintendo. Copyright trolls will claim a video on behalf of nintendo and instead of doing due diligence, youtube just strikes it or warns the channel or whatever and gives revenue to nintendo. Not saying its the case here, but it isn't out of the realm of possibility.
It's not a KZread initiated thing afaik, the creator has to do it. That said, you're probably right, it's copyright trolls.
I'll say what you can't say .. That's BULLSHIT!!! Complete bullshit scam. No true ARTIST would do something like that! Only sad failures would resort to that level of scumbagary!!!😢 I send you some acoustic clips. I'll sign the rights over to you for a bottle if mead that I will receive if ever in the area. Really disappointing 😞
Technically that is selling it and... I cannot do that 😀
@@Brianized 😆 ffs, all the hoops... I'll take a glass bottle. The contents are irrelevant!
I have had the same issue with GoPro music. I even used the same song in a short and it had no issues used it in a video and it had a copyright. I really wish they would just take a small percentage for copyright music especially if it was only a few seconds of a song. Using the whole song is one thing using 10 or 20 seconds is another.
Well... you're not supposed to use copyrighted music at all. It's actually against the law. This video is about music intended for use in videos of this type. They even give a license for this purpose.
@@Brianized GoPro origanal music is supposed to be copyright free, They have a number of songs that gets copyrighted when its not supposed to.
Oh, apologies then!
I used Pixabay for a while but I didn't read the fine print that says it is not for commercial use. I got a few copyright claims from them too. I was able to use the KZread edit tool to change the music. So I was able to keep my ad revenue for my videos. I have a Motion Array subscription now but I still get copyright claims. I have to copy my Motion Array license to use the music and submit it to get the claim removed. It's kind of annoying.
I never saw that. Interesting.
I just checked... their own FAQ says it's fine form commercial use: pixabay.com/service/faq/#:~:text=You%20can%20copy%2C%20modify%2C%20distribute,more%20about%20the%20Pixabay%20license.
@@Brianized It's kind of ambiguous though. I read under the License summary that you can't use it for commercial purposes.
Well if that's true that explains it and that will be the last time I use Pixabay!
KZread is becoming a joke with their demonitization "rules." This sounds like outsiders have found ways to exploit it for your loss and their gain.
It's not just youtube. Also, it's copyright violation, not YT's fault at all. If they didn't do anything when someone files a claim, they would be legally liable. YT isn't filing the claims, people are. Is it an exploit? Sure, but it's not just YT.
But it IS YT's duty to do Due Dilligence, so that IS TY's fault
Due diligence of what? They are doing what is legally required when a copyright claim is made. They are not a legal or governing body and have no right to judge on that claim. All they can do is alert the other parties and go from there. They do have systems in place to protect both sides. YT is totally not culpable in this.
Brian, it's not just Pixabay. I have musician friends who have put THEIR OWN original music in KZread videos and wound up in the same situation as you because someone claimed the music as their own. These scammers make money off copyright claims when KZread forces the content creators to either split their revenue or risk not being allowed to generate any for a period of time, as you stated here. So I'm not defending Pixabay specifically, but letting you know the same shenanigans are happening to others with no connection to them.
I assumed it wasn't just them. Crazy music creators are having it happen!
Urgh, the hoops of bullshit you have to jump through 💩
I just use YT music and all is well.
Why don't you band together with your fellow content creators and boycott these places that are doing this?
This video is to raise awareness. Before I start a revolt, I figured letting people know was a good idea.
@@Brianized Thanks for letting us creators know of the issues they're helping to create...
That's disturbing. I make videos elsewhere and will have to reconsider Pixabay now. I'm sorry that happened to you. Thanks for the heads up.
Yeah, kinda crazy. As I dug into it, seems this is happening more and more.
In 2006 I had my hip replaced. The surgeon informed me that quitting smoking 1 month before surgery would extremely improve the odds of successful surgery and full recovery. Even though I had smoked for over 41 years, major surgery was a darn good reason to stop. The morning I quit smoking, there were 3 cigarettes on my end table. I still have them. After not smoking for over a month I realized that I no longer wanted to smoke but I didn't even like smelling second hand smoke. Plus the money I saved was huge. I have followed you for over 3 years. You are a very smart and capable man. Quitting smoking will not only improve your health, but also your sense of taste and smell as well. Hang in there, I have confidence in you.
Thanks and cool story. It was a stress crutch, and... it's over now. 😀
I have to try this now
Wow I love bourbon also I notice something Brian did we take the plunge with the watch
Hmm?
@@Brianized I noticed on some of your videos you mentioned before about not wanting to buy an Apple Watch I just noticed for some reason it seemed like this video one was in your wrist or it seemed it was one to me
Ahh gotcha! It's a Fitbit actually.
@@Brianized ok haha I thought it was apple
My favorites are Woodford reserve double oaked and Old Forester 1910. My daughter works at a distillery in Manhattan, NYC and is going to get a 4 grain bourbon they make for me, Idk what that's going to taste like but I'm looking forward to it! Cheers!
I consider myself a slight bourbon snob, and Penelope blends some really good stuff.
As a current 107 holder. I can attest to those shots being 100% legal! Thank you for that video. I got quite the chuckle.
Glad you enjoyed it
Bought by MGP in June 2023.
I can't decide if that's a good or bad thing, lol.
For the snobs, it's a bad thing. It means they do not distill on site. They only barrel finish. For the non snobs, it doesn't matter. Does it taste good. If so, then drink it.
My point is they have taken some beverages down but made others better.
No worries, I'm not a MGP hater. It's just nice to know if these smaller companies are true " craft" distillers or using a mass produced distillate.
Founded 2018
Cool, thanks.
Which batteries do you use?
I honestly don't remember. It's been years.
I love playing D&D with your librarian friend! She's awesome.
We do too!
I think you just spent more on crackstachios than I spend on a weekly shop!!!🤪🤪
Lol
We only get to Costco every couple months 😀
I would only add that one should try to play their stats as well. I'm currently in an online game where I'm playing a character with a low Wisdom score. I've been repeatedly making poor judgment calls on his behalf, like charging into fights that are very iffy when the party's resources are low, or doing foolish/dangerous things to spring traps, etc. Many of my fellow party members say, "No, Dave, what are you *doing*? You're going to get killed! Can't you see how many of them there are? I only have one heal spell left!" To which I reply, "Take a look at my Wisdom! My character doesn't make good decisions often!" They've learned to coach my character ahead of time and give him a party member to pay attention to for cues on what to do. "From now on, you don't attack unless you see Bultorn attack first!" Which leaves me happily holding initiative to see what he's doing first. LOL I love it. But you can play other abilities too. Like if your character has a low Dex, he/she will have a much harder time being confident crossing that rope bridge, etc. Love the new hair Derica! Don't worry, as a DM I've had worse on-the-fly name generation than "Princess Doofusface." LMAO. But not by much.
Absolutely true, but another whole video, lol.
@@Brianized LOL OK, fair
I see why this is not for me, but I am glad you enjoy it.
The fish.....yeah that was a great scene. I miss Pinkie and Tikitocken Glitersporcken whatever...still the best name ever by the way.
Ah, good ole Princess Whatshername... lol Good times!
That's one of the only reasons I have my players have their phone on. If it's a story specific piece of info that's important I'll email them the response and they have to relay the info as their character
I’m loving the booze news, and I take back everything I said about your cohost, who’s name escapes me, but I’m coming to love them. It’s all great and that isn’t just the booze talking, but I am rather lit 😆
Just use it. Stop letting the FFA run your lives. It's just ANOTHER tax! FFA should not be able to say you can fly a small drone but can't use the footage in KZread. Wake up guys!
Erm... please don't. It's against the law and you will face fines for it. Those rules exist for a reason. Commercial usage is commercial usage. The license isn't even that hard to get.
😂😂😂😂 I've had a stomach thing for the past couple of weeks, so haven't been able to drink, but I have to tell you that watching this with... herbal inspiration... is frickin HILARIOUS 😂! BTW, all Mezcal and Tequila should come with a bottle of headache pills😂
Hope you're feeling better!
I just had a shower beer after I got home from work. Shower beer should never be underestimated. Not sure I need a special beer for it, Black Butte Porter works fine.
LOL
I used to like to watch my uncle's hog get drunk from eating fermented slop.