How do you do those maps with the moving pointer, love that
@adventuremotorcyclediaries5899Күн бұрын
Thank you, thank you. I have used this method for a long time and suddenly today, my kml track file imports perfectly into Explore, BUT... I cannot see it on the map anymore as usual. After about 10 import re-tries and spending hours wading through Explore settings and Garmin troubleshooting articles, I find this video. That little Plus sign did the magic. Would never have thought to click on that, it is super un-intuitive, and this used to work fine up to today without having to do that!!! Gotta love Garmin. Anyway, very glad I found this, and you've been of great help.
@bunhead86 күн бұрын
excellent review, thank you. I decided against the lone rider motobags because of their weight (and they aren't water proof...) - they are 30 lbs. combined...these are of the lightest I have seen that are of higher quality.
@billscott160110 күн бұрын
You need better tires, carry more speed through the mud and water, don’t be so timid. How do I know, I’ve been riding the Black Hills, in all weather, for the last twelve years.
@thedriftlessrider10 күн бұрын
I’ve mounted a set of Motoz Rallz tires. Working on the timid part. Nice part about filming your rides is learning being able to see how bad you are and learn from them.
@curtkautsch14 күн бұрын
Man, you are revving the hell out of that bike… OK to shift once and a while 😅
@thedriftlessrider14 күн бұрын
I’m not proud of my actions out there 🤣
@purdyquibb4 күн бұрын
@@thedriftlessrider😂
@TOGAB14 күн бұрын
Made NO sense right out the blocks. No explanation as to what we're looking at, just right into it. He just assumes we're looking at the same links and screens. And Garmin's IT people are just overpaid morons given way too much creative license, Soooo many apps, sooo many incompatibilities and steps to do the simplest f*cking things, far too unnecessarily convoluted. Garmin has just turned something simple into an overly pretentious complicated, multi-app Mongolian cluster f*ck of a clown show. Just use Google maps, no endless incompatibilities and you don't have to jump through a dozen f*cking apps just to transfer a gd map. Shaping a route is a joke too. It takes you ALL the way to your f*cking destination THEN brings you back to your shaping point. WTF?!! What overpaid no-riding Poindexter thinks that we want to get to our destination THEN go back to a scenic route? Dufusses.
@seanb108127 күн бұрын
For owners of the NEW Zumo XT2. Take note that the "Garmin Explore" App, will no longer work with the new XT2. My work around was to first create the route in Google My Maps. Download the google route as a standard KML file. and then convert the KML file to a GPX file. I used the "MyGeodata" converter website to do the conversion. I then downloaded the new GPX file from My Geodata. Next, I then imported the GPX file into Garmin "BaseCamp" and finally exported the new route from BaseCamp to the Zumo XT2. Seems to work fine in "simulation" mode on the XT2. Weather permitting tomorrow I'll test it out in real life.
@NMS.SuperDuperАй бұрын
Would these fit onto Tusk racks?
@thedriftlessrider29 күн бұрын
You won’t be able to use the quick mount plate. But yes the bags by themselves will go on any standard rectangular rack system, you just have to figure out how to use the 6 tie downs on each bag to work for your setup.
@tommytoledo7748Ай бұрын
Did you upload maps onto your Garmin or where they already on it? I have a Garmin Tread and was wanting off road maps for the Black Hills area Thanks
@thedriftlessriderАй бұрын
I only had to upload the specific tracks for the BDRx. But the roads were already on the Garmin Map, just had to add the BDRx tracks so we knew which roads to take to follow the route.
@JB-qu1buАй бұрын
After watching this vid I am so glad I am building an xr650l for an adv bike. Thanks
@petebullock2152Ай бұрын
Meant to comment last year. This worked perfectly! I had a 12 hour loop in the Appalachian mountains and it didn't tell me I had too many points. Still kept me on track the whole time even when crossing over roads I had already been on. Just watched again to refresh my brain and made more routes for a trip coming up. Thanks so much, this was so incredibly easy.
@RamblinManMotoАй бұрын
I'm confused. My Garmin Explore says it is not compatible with the Zumo XT. Did something change?
@frietsess5Ай бұрын
Very informative review. The back plates are not made out of steel, but aluminium. You can test this with a magnet. Aluminium is non-magnetic.
@thedriftlessriderАй бұрын
Yes thank you for the correction!
@NiekkieNick2 ай бұрын
Huh? When I open the Garmin Explorer app and I check which devices are supported, it says that the Zumo XT is not supported. Why does yours work??
@Brad-RB2 ай бұрын
How rigid are the SW-Motech quick-detach racks? The ability to remove them seems like a great idea. I'm considering the SW-M racks with the Sysbag WP or Mosko Moto Backcountry bags. Mosko's luggage is heavy. I've had trouble with Outback Motortek as well.
@thedriftlessrider2 ай бұрын
The racks themselves are very sturdy. The quick detach is great. If you go with mosko bags you’ll have to make some modifications to the sw Motech racks. I believe mosko has something about that on their website.
@lanifuu76403 ай бұрын
Were your SysBags damaged in any way, after this trip?
@thedriftlessrider3 ай бұрын
They were not. The video I made on the Sysbags was made after this trip and I cover the durability of them.
@lanifuu76403 ай бұрын
@@thedriftlessrider Nice! Thanks you!
@8kallday5913 ай бұрын
Grew up in SW Iowa currently in Nebraska. Looking at a solo of either the BHBDRX or the Wyo BDR in September. Great trip and video.. minus all the mud, well done looks like a blast.
@morkys24103 ай бұрын
Nice review. What if anything do you do for security?
@thedriftlessrider3 ай бұрын
Not much you can do with soft bags. I’ve got my lock box on the center rack that I’ll put important things in and lock with padlocks.
@morkys24103 ай бұрын
@@thedriftlessriderActually I see they do make straps called Steelcore which you can use to secure the bags shut and secure them to the racks...could deter some thieves I guess.
@user-ei7ud1bo9h3 ай бұрын
Good review!
@pascalmichel74163 ай бұрын
It doesn't work anymore on the web, it might work on the application though.
@nemindakarunaratne22914 ай бұрын
You asking me.. this video helped me very much. Thanks mate.
@imgonzo4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the vlog, really helped figuring out plotting routes.
@clusterm24 ай бұрын
Never mind all this riding....what's happening /not happening to your xs650 Yam?
@thedriftlessrider4 ай бұрын
Ahh jeez yea I’ll get back to it soon. Had to shuffle the garage around last year to make space for other things. Now I’m in process of moving and hopefully will have some room for it soon.
@theonlygrizz4 ай бұрын
why does garmin explore say that it does not support my zumo xt? Sync is not happening and everything is connected
@macdaddy2584 ай бұрын
You need to forget you have a front brake , leave rear ABS on and use compression braking, then learn how to shift ur weight and control your slip..
@macdaddy2584 ай бұрын
Looks like you’re really enjoying yourself 🙄… stick to dirt roads dude..
@chrysovalantiskamprogianni5414 ай бұрын
Those tires are not for this type of terrain buddy. Great ride though!❤
@romanspanos94814 ай бұрын
Thanks for review, very detailed and all aspects covered
@rulehardgarage97404 ай бұрын
Nice ride. I too am from the Great Lakes region and enjoy riding in the black hills. Plan to attempt to do this 2 up this summer after we visit glacier.
@kikoy084 ай бұрын
And to add… there is no hook point for sling option and not lock to prevent other people to dismount the bag without authorization.. not thoroughly thought bag
@ognightrider87304 ай бұрын
After owning a couple big adventure bikes I have built an ultralight adventure bike with a Beta 390, I still ride and camp with guys that ride big bikes, life is just 50 times easier and I enjoy the ride more.
@jasongoldy25714 ай бұрын
I might be missing something but can i ask what is the advantage of having such a big heavy bike that you can't lift on your own in those conditions seems like a disadvantage to me ?
@Thomas-im4vfАй бұрын
Do you really need everything that you have loaded
@sunnyvalejedi4 ай бұрын
Huge improvement over the Sysbag 30s I had.
@traineeadv4 ай бұрын
I'm glad I wasn't the only one that got caught out by the mud there in September! Great watch.
@travisboam96124 ай бұрын
Nice review 👍 I'm leaning towards these bags. Do you know what the max weight the bags can carry?
@thedriftlessrider4 ай бұрын
I don't really have a good answer for that. I could only find a published spec on the weight capacity of the carriers and not the bags. SW-Motech claims the carriers can handle 27.5lbs HOWEVER, they follow that up saying that you should not exceed the load specified by the motorcycle manufacturer for the mounting locations. I have put around 10-15lbs in per side and seem to be fine. I'll weigh it after I pack for other trip to actually see how much I put in there.
@travisboam96124 ай бұрын
Thanks for the update 😊 I tend to overpack my Vario cases, and the new ones are too pretty to be dropped.
@theshadyeightyshow33554 ай бұрын
I appreciate seeing it done the hard way, good effort guys!
@mikehoncho87225 ай бұрын
That poor clutch..
@thedriftlessrider5 ай бұрын
It was a bad day to be a T7 clutch…
@curtkautsch5 ай бұрын
Shiiiiiift!!
@JayBee-cr8jm5 ай бұрын
I recognize a lot of these roads.
@craigsturman66615 ай бұрын
Even with the lowering links my T7 is a little tall for my short legs. You guys did awesome for what you were into. I think I'll pass on the hard sections of this BDRX when I do it.
@thedriftlessrider5 ай бұрын
If it’s dry, it’s doable with little experience. Main thing I wish I did better was keeping my speed up and having confidence in the bike. The ruts were aggressive though.
@craigsturman66615 ай бұрын
@@thedriftlessrider I get it, and the camera doesn't do the hills justice. My problem is when I have to stop on a hill, I have to plan where to put my foot down. I would have dropped it way more than you did. I have learned over the years how to use momentum and speed on these big bikes. But I still have my frustrating days!
@MeerkatADV5 ай бұрын
I absolutely HATE the OEM pirellis. They're great street tires and complete garbage in anything loose.
@thedriftlessrider5 ай бұрын
I agree. I’ll be changing them out in the near future before the riding season starts.
@grego10rАй бұрын
it's always the pilot there is no mud tires
@bikramjitganguly5 ай бұрын
thanks for the review. good to see varied perspectives.
@danieljgundersen43015 ай бұрын
Have you heard about a new BDR coming to the Driftless area?
@thedriftlessrider5 ай бұрын
Heard the rumors of it. I wonder where they’d route it through given its a lot of farm fields, gravel, and limited “off-road” riding in this region. Great motorcycle roads in general though!
@psunaminami66726 ай бұрын
youve got a death grip on that clutch...give it the gas and let go of the clutch!
@thedriftlessrider6 ай бұрын
Funny you mention that, I just ordered a new clutch pack yesterday 😂. Nice thing about filming your rides is you can look back and learn from it.
@chrismcallister65466 ай бұрын
those street tire's not so good off road... looked like a great time tho
@thedriftlessrider6 ай бұрын
Yea the stock Pirelli Scorpion Rally’s are terrible in mud. 3 of us had them and we were not having a good time.
@DubuqueDude6 ай бұрын
If it only showed how steep and slick that climb was. Great video!
@cranedaddy6786 ай бұрын
Looks like type 2 fun. The kind that sucks in the moment but you remember it as being fun haha
@thedriftlessrider6 ай бұрын
Spot on! I would definitely do this all over again. Definitely with some new tires though!
@abyields78316 ай бұрын
Oh my goodness, y’all had it tough in the mud, that hateful clay. Awesome vid, thanks for sharing!
@DubuqueDude6 ай бұрын
I'm having ptsd remembering all that greasy mud. Sure looks better in the video. 😂
@thedriftlessrider6 ай бұрын
I don’t know if you’re ready to relive day three then.
@DubuqueDude6 ай бұрын
@@thedriftlessrider 😂 that slog up Bear Mountain was brutal.
@DubuqueDude6 ай бұрын
@@thedriftlessrider best pizza ever... Thanks for the pizza run!
@trucker-d41616 ай бұрын
Where did you park your vehicles, while riding?
@thedriftlessrider6 ай бұрын
We booked hotel stays at the Rushmore Express Inn in Keystone for the first and last day of the trip and they allowed us to leave our trucks there on the days in between.
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How do you do those maps with the moving pointer, love that
Thank you, thank you. I have used this method for a long time and suddenly today, my kml track file imports perfectly into Explore, BUT... I cannot see it on the map anymore as usual. After about 10 import re-tries and spending hours wading through Explore settings and Garmin troubleshooting articles, I find this video. That little Plus sign did the magic. Would never have thought to click on that, it is super un-intuitive, and this used to work fine up to today without having to do that!!! Gotta love Garmin. Anyway, very glad I found this, and you've been of great help.
excellent review, thank you. I decided against the lone rider motobags because of their weight (and they aren't water proof...) - they are 30 lbs. combined...these are of the lightest I have seen that are of higher quality.
You need better tires, carry more speed through the mud and water, don’t be so timid. How do I know, I’ve been riding the Black Hills, in all weather, for the last twelve years.
I’ve mounted a set of Motoz Rallz tires. Working on the timid part. Nice part about filming your rides is learning being able to see how bad you are and learn from them.
Man, you are revving the hell out of that bike… OK to shift once and a while 😅
I’m not proud of my actions out there 🤣
@@thedriftlessrider😂
Made NO sense right out the blocks. No explanation as to what we're looking at, just right into it. He just assumes we're looking at the same links and screens. And Garmin's IT people are just overpaid morons given way too much creative license, Soooo many apps, sooo many incompatibilities and steps to do the simplest f*cking things, far too unnecessarily convoluted. Garmin has just turned something simple into an overly pretentious complicated, multi-app Mongolian cluster f*ck of a clown show. Just use Google maps, no endless incompatibilities and you don't have to jump through a dozen f*cking apps just to transfer a gd map. Shaping a route is a joke too. It takes you ALL the way to your f*cking destination THEN brings you back to your shaping point. WTF?!! What overpaid no-riding Poindexter thinks that we want to get to our destination THEN go back to a scenic route? Dufusses.
For owners of the NEW Zumo XT2. Take note that the "Garmin Explore" App, will no longer work with the new XT2. My work around was to first create the route in Google My Maps. Download the google route as a standard KML file. and then convert the KML file to a GPX file. I used the "MyGeodata" converter website to do the conversion. I then downloaded the new GPX file from My Geodata. Next, I then imported the GPX file into Garmin "BaseCamp" and finally exported the new route from BaseCamp to the Zumo XT2. Seems to work fine in "simulation" mode on the XT2. Weather permitting tomorrow I'll test it out in real life.
Would these fit onto Tusk racks?
You won’t be able to use the quick mount plate. But yes the bags by themselves will go on any standard rectangular rack system, you just have to figure out how to use the 6 tie downs on each bag to work for your setup.
Did you upload maps onto your Garmin or where they already on it? I have a Garmin Tread and was wanting off road maps for the Black Hills area Thanks
I only had to upload the specific tracks for the BDRx. But the roads were already on the Garmin Map, just had to add the BDRx tracks so we knew which roads to take to follow the route.
After watching this vid I am so glad I am building an xr650l for an adv bike. Thanks
Meant to comment last year. This worked perfectly! I had a 12 hour loop in the Appalachian mountains and it didn't tell me I had too many points. Still kept me on track the whole time even when crossing over roads I had already been on. Just watched again to refresh my brain and made more routes for a trip coming up. Thanks so much, this was so incredibly easy.
I'm confused. My Garmin Explore says it is not compatible with the Zumo XT. Did something change?
Very informative review. The back plates are not made out of steel, but aluminium. You can test this with a magnet. Aluminium is non-magnetic.
Yes thank you for the correction!
Huh? When I open the Garmin Explorer app and I check which devices are supported, it says that the Zumo XT is not supported. Why does yours work??
How rigid are the SW-Motech quick-detach racks? The ability to remove them seems like a great idea. I'm considering the SW-M racks with the Sysbag WP or Mosko Moto Backcountry bags. Mosko's luggage is heavy. I've had trouble with Outback Motortek as well.
The racks themselves are very sturdy. The quick detach is great. If you go with mosko bags you’ll have to make some modifications to the sw Motech racks. I believe mosko has something about that on their website.
Were your SysBags damaged in any way, after this trip?
They were not. The video I made on the Sysbags was made after this trip and I cover the durability of them.
@@thedriftlessrider Nice! Thanks you!
Grew up in SW Iowa currently in Nebraska. Looking at a solo of either the BHBDRX or the Wyo BDR in September. Great trip and video.. minus all the mud, well done looks like a blast.
Nice review. What if anything do you do for security?
Not much you can do with soft bags. I’ve got my lock box on the center rack that I’ll put important things in and lock with padlocks.
@@thedriftlessriderActually I see they do make straps called Steelcore which you can use to secure the bags shut and secure them to the racks...could deter some thieves I guess.
Good review!
It doesn't work anymore on the web, it might work on the application though.
You asking me.. this video helped me very much. Thanks mate.
Thanks for the vlog, really helped figuring out plotting routes.
Never mind all this riding....what's happening /not happening to your xs650 Yam?
Ahh jeez yea I’ll get back to it soon. Had to shuffle the garage around last year to make space for other things. Now I’m in process of moving and hopefully will have some room for it soon.
why does garmin explore say that it does not support my zumo xt? Sync is not happening and everything is connected
You need to forget you have a front brake , leave rear ABS on and use compression braking, then learn how to shift ur weight and control your slip..
Looks like you’re really enjoying yourself 🙄… stick to dirt roads dude..
Those tires are not for this type of terrain buddy. Great ride though!❤
Thanks for review, very detailed and all aspects covered
Nice ride. I too am from the Great Lakes region and enjoy riding in the black hills. Plan to attempt to do this 2 up this summer after we visit glacier.
And to add… there is no hook point for sling option and not lock to prevent other people to dismount the bag without authorization.. not thoroughly thought bag
After owning a couple big adventure bikes I have built an ultralight adventure bike with a Beta 390, I still ride and camp with guys that ride big bikes, life is just 50 times easier and I enjoy the ride more.
I might be missing something but can i ask what is the advantage of having such a big heavy bike that you can't lift on your own in those conditions seems like a disadvantage to me ?
Do you really need everything that you have loaded
Huge improvement over the Sysbag 30s I had.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one that got caught out by the mud there in September! Great watch.
Nice review 👍 I'm leaning towards these bags. Do you know what the max weight the bags can carry?
I don't really have a good answer for that. I could only find a published spec on the weight capacity of the carriers and not the bags. SW-Motech claims the carriers can handle 27.5lbs HOWEVER, they follow that up saying that you should not exceed the load specified by the motorcycle manufacturer for the mounting locations. I have put around 10-15lbs in per side and seem to be fine. I'll weigh it after I pack for other trip to actually see how much I put in there.
Thanks for the update 😊 I tend to overpack my Vario cases, and the new ones are too pretty to be dropped.
I appreciate seeing it done the hard way, good effort guys!
That poor clutch..
It was a bad day to be a T7 clutch…
Shiiiiiift!!
I recognize a lot of these roads.
Even with the lowering links my T7 is a little tall for my short legs. You guys did awesome for what you were into. I think I'll pass on the hard sections of this BDRX when I do it.
If it’s dry, it’s doable with little experience. Main thing I wish I did better was keeping my speed up and having confidence in the bike. The ruts were aggressive though.
@@thedriftlessrider I get it, and the camera doesn't do the hills justice. My problem is when I have to stop on a hill, I have to plan where to put my foot down. I would have dropped it way more than you did. I have learned over the years how to use momentum and speed on these big bikes. But I still have my frustrating days!
I absolutely HATE the OEM pirellis. They're great street tires and complete garbage in anything loose.
I agree. I’ll be changing them out in the near future before the riding season starts.
it's always the pilot there is no mud tires
thanks for the review. good to see varied perspectives.
Have you heard about a new BDR coming to the Driftless area?
Heard the rumors of it. I wonder where they’d route it through given its a lot of farm fields, gravel, and limited “off-road” riding in this region. Great motorcycle roads in general though!
youve got a death grip on that clutch...give it the gas and let go of the clutch!
Funny you mention that, I just ordered a new clutch pack yesterday 😂. Nice thing about filming your rides is you can look back and learn from it.
those street tire's not so good off road... looked like a great time tho
Yea the stock Pirelli Scorpion Rally’s are terrible in mud. 3 of us had them and we were not having a good time.
If it only showed how steep and slick that climb was. Great video!
Looks like type 2 fun. The kind that sucks in the moment but you remember it as being fun haha
Spot on! I would definitely do this all over again. Definitely with some new tires though!
Oh my goodness, y’all had it tough in the mud, that hateful clay. Awesome vid, thanks for sharing!
I'm having ptsd remembering all that greasy mud. Sure looks better in the video. 😂
I don’t know if you’re ready to relive day three then.
@@thedriftlessrider 😂 that slog up Bear Mountain was brutal.
@@thedriftlessrider best pizza ever... Thanks for the pizza run!
Where did you park your vehicles, while riding?
We booked hotel stays at the Rushmore Express Inn in Keystone for the first and last day of the trip and they allowed us to leave our trucks there on the days in between.