Omg i wasn’t aware that it was so expensive. I’ve always wanted to refinish furniture and I’m finally ready to start. I’ve heard that the Surfprep sander works great on furniture but I didn’t know how much it was.
@Grandma_JizzzzzzzardАй бұрын
Solid investment! You can find coupon codes all over social media ❤
@sum1sw2 ай бұрын
Is there a weight difference ? What about vibration ?
@zahidrenu42402 ай бұрын
Is this available
@agent7agent7593 ай бұрын
I regret buying mine as well and it was very expensive more than mirka and festool , not worth the money
@jefrylopez82022 күн бұрын
How often do you use it ? I’m think of getting one because hand sanding moldings suck but due the the price I’m very hesitant, I’m a painter so I will be using it often
@agent7agent7593 ай бұрын
There are many alternatives these days to mirka and 3M and they come with many issues , for a 3rd of the price you can pick up the maxxt sander which they improved on quality control and you get 2 pads 6 and 5 inch and its on par with mirka and 3M but festool is on another league on its own and very dependable brand i own 4 different sanders and they never gave me a problem in 10 years of heavy use but not abuse , my last purchase was the maxxt sander and its been holding amazing and hope it lasts long
@DyslexicLunatic4 ай бұрын
Most equipment works just fine in the hands of someone who has patience and understanding of the trade. It's just a matter of preference and budget. Nothing more.
@SeamlessFab3 ай бұрын
Some equipment works “just fine.” And some works at a far superior level with superior results.
@coyfrazier5 ай бұрын
From a guy that runs a cabinet shop and has had two bad bearings in two different machines in 4 months, I'd say do not waste your hard earned money on the surfprep. The uneeda copy is even worse. I'm also open to ideas on a better quality machine if anyone wants to chime in.
@captbill2794 ай бұрын
I have the Airvantage which is a very nice Surfprep alternative. Just like the surfprep. I have the original one with the separate power supply so it's lighter but has the power supply in between. It's just as good as the surfprep at $150 less.
@davidhouchin2353Ай бұрын
festool rts 400
@davidperalta528028 күн бұрын
Mirka Deos? I don't know how they are head to head but appear comparable. Festool makes a finish sander as well but ergonomically very different.
@hovermotion5 ай бұрын
I have this unit , festool made a huge design mistake as the unit has very limited running time on 4amp batteries only.
@Alee2712955 ай бұрын
Do you have a link for the 3D printed attachment?
@bobseguin21956 ай бұрын
For the price deference, id buy a mirka.......
@eugeneeugene82526 ай бұрын
10 min on full power, don't mislead viewers
@shidoin53986 ай бұрын
The pads don't seem to remove enough material
@southernfinefinishesllc80294 ай бұрын
They ProFoam isn't meant to remove material, like to strip. They are used for finish sanding and replacing hand sanding.
@shidoin53984 ай бұрын
@southernfinefinishesllc8029 I sand everything down with 150 grit. The price of the sander and how much they bend you over on the pads it's now worth it. Made in Taiwan
@KingKurok7 ай бұрын
Without a brake of backing pad, its a piece of crapp. Festool the top as usual
@debandmike33807 ай бұрын
another festool blunder that will hurt sales. If they had just allowed room for the five amp hour batteries runtime could've more than doubled and it would've been a lot more appealing. We're talking about less than a couple inches
@LostBoyLA8 ай бұрын
You look like the woodpeckers kid in a disguise
@ExpressBrick9 ай бұрын
What speed do you set it to?
@WrongTimeWatch9 ай бұрын
I dont have a nice sander or dust extractor yet. I was planning to buy the 3M sander, and a festool dust extractor. I did not realize that an adapter was needed.
@aggiestudd076 ай бұрын
that's what i did, and the adapter is awesome. only complaint is the 3m sander's power cable isn't detachable
@joseangel482110 ай бұрын
Do not buy 3M is a piece of crapp, red tje reviews on the 3M web site, that thing came out defective few hours of work and stop working and never turns back on, wait until they fix that recall cuz i believe that's going to happen
@joseangel482110 ай бұрын
Yeap to late a read the reviews it happened the same to me, luckily i was still on tje one month period and i was able to return to amazon, cuz i tried to call 3M and i was not able to, is horrible customer service
@TK-mj9rd11 ай бұрын
Thank you for the review. Can you tell me what the 2.5 on the top of the paddle means? I've usually seen them with a "5" on the paddle.
@vasili709 ай бұрын
That notes the orbit of the sander. It has a 2.5mm orbit. The 5 is a 5mm orbit. Generally speaking, the smaller the orbit, the finer of a finish it delivers. That finer finish does comes at the expense of time. The larger orbit is more aggressive so it is faster, but leaves a little rougher finish.
@fogsmart11 ай бұрын
If there’s no Tubo mode like a Bosch or Rotex function like a Festool has, I don’t want the sander
@Steinstra-vj7wl11 ай бұрын
Festool any time ! Great Sander - better even than the Mirka Deros which is much hyped.
@douglasvine251611 ай бұрын
3M is JUNK - I have bought 2 of these in the last 5 months and they both died. Read the reviews on the 3M website. I talked to the service people at 3M and they confirmed that there all several design issues with the control board. Stay away.
@theonelordoftherings Жыл бұрын
So you failed to talk about the sanding radius which is 3mm on festool but i dont know what 3m is.As an owner of 8 of the festool 6inch i can tell you i wish they were hard wired as the festool connection eventually fails and new cords dont resolve issue
@Fictitious_Character10 ай бұрын
The plug connector in the handle of the Festool is an easy fix. Iirc it's a sub $20 part and swaps out without much hassle.
@demiankoons3802 Жыл бұрын
3m so sexy
@ianmist2 Жыл бұрын
#M make several 6" Extract ROS sanders. which model are you demonstrating?
@A.J.P.S. Жыл бұрын
I got a feeling that 3M sander is nothing more then a Mirka and its obvious that the 3m sander is quieter because it starts at 4000rpm while the Festool it starts at 6000rpm. The only fault that i can say about the festool is its lowest rpm. Sometimes the 6000rpm ist to much!!!
@jimd61927 ай бұрын
Even worse, 3m is made in Taiwan and its price is too much for no quality reason. and the mirka in Finland.
@itachi975x Жыл бұрын
those little accidental turn ons with the 3M paddle is what i don’t like that kind of switch.
@shaynesabala Жыл бұрын
Did the 3m require you to power on in to adjust the speed? That seems like a bad design.
@roybaker6970 Жыл бұрын
I recognize you from Woodpecker videos? Still working there?
@osvaldorico99 Жыл бұрын
Where can I get that adapter
@lemech Жыл бұрын
Can you use 5.0 AH battery? Seems like 5.0 battery is too thick to fit. Thanks.
@BuckRogers2491 Жыл бұрын
4.0 is the max.
@johnhupp8444 Жыл бұрын
When it comes to run down times you are not comparing apples to apples. One is a 5” and the other is a 6”. The larger one has more inertia and will therefore have a longer run down time. I own the 5” 3M and it does have a very slightly longer run down than the Festool, but much shorter than the 6”3M.
@Fictitious_Character10 ай бұрын
I don't have the 3M, but the Mirka Deros 150/5 does have a much faster brake, it stops very quickly. The 3M in the video looks like it does not have a brake.
@davidsaviano90128 ай бұрын
The 5 inch takes about the same amount of time to stop ... maybe a second quicker. Not much.
@Burnsalmighty Жыл бұрын
Dynabrade always
@MrKCWalker Жыл бұрын
Ha ha, I've hardly used my Dynabrade since I got the 3M. Way quieter… smoother… my compressor is not running all the time… No dust!
@nuisd9829 Жыл бұрын
Where did you get the hose converter for the 3M to the Festool hose ?
@howardcrane5902 Жыл бұрын
Taylor tools has an adapter.
@Fictitious_Character Жыл бұрын
I've got that Festool sander, and the Mirka Deros instead of the 3m, but I am curious about the 3m. It seems over priced tbh. If I'm dropping almost 500 and + on a sander I'd rather it not have its country of origin be Taiwan, but time will tell I suppose on the overall quality of the sander. The lack of variable speed in the paddle switch is an odd choice since the 3m is similar to the Metabo, and the Metabo is also similar to the Mirka and surf prep. Also not a fan of the cord on the 3m. I much prefer the Festool one cord for most tools, but I have that same complaint with the Mirka. Of course having the Mirka that problem just makes me think I need more Mirka cords lol. Also not a fan of needing an attachment to fit Festool hoses sucks because those are the hoses I have LoL. The Festool hose connects nicely to the Mirka without an adapter. If I came across one for sub 300 or - I'd be tempted to buy one just to put hands on it. Do the Mirka Deros pads fit on it? Do they have a weighted 125mm pad for the 150mm so it is both a 125 and 150 mm 5 stroke sander like the Mirka?
@joseangel482110 ай бұрын
Please do not buy tje 3M xtractor, it came out with a defective item, after few hours stops and never turn back again it happened to me, and to late i read tje reviews of this sander, to many people had tje same problem, to much money for a piece of crapp
@Fictitious_Character10 ай бұрын
@@joseangel4821 how is their warranty working out for your issue?
@joseangel482110 ай бұрын
@@Fictitious_Character well mine i was able to return to amazon, but i heard from others that you have hard time to get of hold of customer service, but they sent the sander to them and got it fix, company is working on tje issue
@KipringPayne Жыл бұрын
You're the first video I've found that compared the 3M and Festool, thank you. Plenty of 3M v Mirka or Festool v Mirka but no one doing a head to head of these two.
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$600 for a modified orbital sander is ridiculous.
I want to buy
Omg i wasn’t aware that it was so expensive. I’ve always wanted to refinish furniture and I’m finally ready to start. I’ve heard that the Surfprep sander works great on furniture but I didn’t know how much it was.
Solid investment! You can find coupon codes all over social media ❤
Is there a weight difference ? What about vibration ?
Is this available
I regret buying mine as well and it was very expensive more than mirka and festool , not worth the money
How often do you use it ? I’m think of getting one because hand sanding moldings suck but due the the price I’m very hesitant, I’m a painter so I will be using it often
There are many alternatives these days to mirka and 3M and they come with many issues , for a 3rd of the price you can pick up the maxxt sander which they improved on quality control and you get 2 pads 6 and 5 inch and its on par with mirka and 3M but festool is on another league on its own and very dependable brand i own 4 different sanders and they never gave me a problem in 10 years of heavy use but not abuse , my last purchase was the maxxt sander and its been holding amazing and hope it lasts long
Most equipment works just fine in the hands of someone who has patience and understanding of the trade. It's just a matter of preference and budget. Nothing more.
Some equipment works “just fine.” And some works at a far superior level with superior results.
From a guy that runs a cabinet shop and has had two bad bearings in two different machines in 4 months, I'd say do not waste your hard earned money on the surfprep. The uneeda copy is even worse. I'm also open to ideas on a better quality machine if anyone wants to chime in.
I have the Airvantage which is a very nice Surfprep alternative. Just like the surfprep. I have the original one with the separate power supply so it's lighter but has the power supply in between. It's just as good as the surfprep at $150 less.
festool rts 400
Mirka Deos? I don't know how they are head to head but appear comparable. Festool makes a finish sander as well but ergonomically very different.
I have this unit , festool made a huge design mistake as the unit has very limited running time on 4amp batteries only.
Do you have a link for the 3D printed attachment?
For the price deference, id buy a mirka.......
10 min on full power, don't mislead viewers
The pads don't seem to remove enough material
They ProFoam isn't meant to remove material, like to strip. They are used for finish sanding and replacing hand sanding.
@southernfinefinishesllc8029 I sand everything down with 150 grit. The price of the sander and how much they bend you over on the pads it's now worth it. Made in Taiwan
Without a brake of backing pad, its a piece of crapp. Festool the top as usual
another festool blunder that will hurt sales. If they had just allowed room for the five amp hour batteries runtime could've more than doubled and it would've been a lot more appealing. We're talking about less than a couple inches
You look like the woodpeckers kid in a disguise
What speed do you set it to?
I dont have a nice sander or dust extractor yet. I was planning to buy the 3M sander, and a festool dust extractor. I did not realize that an adapter was needed.
that's what i did, and the adapter is awesome. only complaint is the 3m sander's power cable isn't detachable
Do not buy 3M is a piece of crapp, red tje reviews on the 3M web site, that thing came out defective few hours of work and stop working and never turns back on, wait until they fix that recall cuz i believe that's going to happen
Yeap to late a read the reviews it happened the same to me, luckily i was still on tje one month period and i was able to return to amazon, cuz i tried to call 3M and i was not able to, is horrible customer service
Thank you for the review. Can you tell me what the 2.5 on the top of the paddle means? I've usually seen them with a "5" on the paddle.
That notes the orbit of the sander. It has a 2.5mm orbit. The 5 is a 5mm orbit. Generally speaking, the smaller the orbit, the finer of a finish it delivers. That finer finish does comes at the expense of time. The larger orbit is more aggressive so it is faster, but leaves a little rougher finish.
If there’s no Tubo mode like a Bosch or Rotex function like a Festool has, I don’t want the sander
Festool any time ! Great Sander - better even than the Mirka Deros which is much hyped.
3M is JUNK - I have bought 2 of these in the last 5 months and they both died. Read the reviews on the 3M website. I talked to the service people at 3M and they confirmed that there all several design issues with the control board. Stay away.
So you failed to talk about the sanding radius which is 3mm on festool but i dont know what 3m is.As an owner of 8 of the festool 6inch i can tell you i wish they were hard wired as the festool connection eventually fails and new cords dont resolve issue
The plug connector in the handle of the Festool is an easy fix. Iirc it's a sub $20 part and swaps out without much hassle.
3m so sexy
#M make several 6" Extract ROS sanders. which model are you demonstrating?
I got a feeling that 3M sander is nothing more then a Mirka and its obvious that the 3m sander is quieter because it starts at 4000rpm while the Festool it starts at 6000rpm. The only fault that i can say about the festool is its lowest rpm. Sometimes the 6000rpm ist to much!!!
Even worse, 3m is made in Taiwan and its price is too much for no quality reason. and the mirka in Finland.
those little accidental turn ons with the 3M paddle is what i don’t like that kind of switch.
Did the 3m require you to power on in to adjust the speed? That seems like a bad design.
I recognize you from Woodpecker videos? Still working there?
Where can I get that adapter
Can you use 5.0 AH battery? Seems like 5.0 battery is too thick to fit. Thanks.
4.0 is the max.
When it comes to run down times you are not comparing apples to apples. One is a 5” and the other is a 6”. The larger one has more inertia and will therefore have a longer run down time. I own the 5” 3M and it does have a very slightly longer run down than the Festool, but much shorter than the 6”3M.
I don't have the 3M, but the Mirka Deros 150/5 does have a much faster brake, it stops very quickly. The 3M in the video looks like it does not have a brake.
The 5 inch takes about the same amount of time to stop ... maybe a second quicker. Not much.
Dynabrade always
Ha ha, I've hardly used my Dynabrade since I got the 3M. Way quieter… smoother… my compressor is not running all the time… No dust!
Where did you get the hose converter for the 3M to the Festool hose ?
Taylor tools has an adapter.
I've got that Festool sander, and the Mirka Deros instead of the 3m, but I am curious about the 3m. It seems over priced tbh. If I'm dropping almost 500 and + on a sander I'd rather it not have its country of origin be Taiwan, but time will tell I suppose on the overall quality of the sander. The lack of variable speed in the paddle switch is an odd choice since the 3m is similar to the Metabo, and the Metabo is also similar to the Mirka and surf prep. Also not a fan of the cord on the 3m. I much prefer the Festool one cord for most tools, but I have that same complaint with the Mirka. Of course having the Mirka that problem just makes me think I need more Mirka cords lol. Also not a fan of needing an attachment to fit Festool hoses sucks because those are the hoses I have LoL. The Festool hose connects nicely to the Mirka without an adapter. If I came across one for sub 300 or - I'd be tempted to buy one just to put hands on it. Do the Mirka Deros pads fit on it? Do they have a weighted 125mm pad for the 150mm so it is both a 125 and 150 mm 5 stroke sander like the Mirka?
Please do not buy tje 3M xtractor, it came out with a defective item, after few hours stops and never turn back again it happened to me, and to late i read tje reviews of this sander, to many people had tje same problem, to much money for a piece of crapp
@@joseangel4821 how is their warranty working out for your issue?
@@Fictitious_Character well mine i was able to return to amazon, but i heard from others that you have hard time to get of hold of customer service, but they sent the sander to them and got it fix, company is working on tje issue
You're the first video I've found that compared the 3M and Festool, thank you. Plenty of 3M v Mirka or Festool v Mirka but no one doing a head to head of these two.
Nice dust collection
Thank you 😊
Such a great set up