Sharing my experiences with Tesla Beta FSD.
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I appreciate the videos. You really should invest in an external clip-on mic. Even a cheap one would be much better than what you have now - especially with the AC blasting. Keep up the good work.
Yep, wrong-lane-anxiety 😅
The only critique I would mention is not yielding for the person trying to change lanes. That is something nice you can do but it is not something you are required to do. The people that piss me off the most are the people who intentionally stay in an ending lane knowing it is ending and expect you to just make space.
Not range anxiety but wrong lane anxiety 😅
I took a Waymo in San Francisco this weekend. Game over. They are WAY ahead of Tesla. The whole experience feels completely safe with far less errors, and a MUCH more comfortable follow distance, acceleration, deceleration, and maneuvering.
Still waiting too late to start decelerating especially when going fast downhill forcing full regen and friction brakes. 0:33 1:20 7:20
Curios why it is improper to do a lane change in an intersection (as you noted) so long as you have a clear view into the lane you are turning jnto and can see that there are no cars slowing down to make a turn. Is it illegal to do so?
Good video style. You took the absolutely least challenging route, though. I'm looking for the areas that 4.3.1 failed, like construction zones, lane changes where the middle line wasn't crisp, highway shenanigans (esp. in LA!). Perhaps that's in different video.
Sooo close to robotaxi woww love these drives
You FSD testers piss me off, one minute you complain because it takes too long to change lane for turn, Next you complain because it take too long. My guess it has to have a problem otherwise you would be out of a job, making money on KZread.
What happens if you have to make a lane change then a right turn and nobody gives way (so you can’t make the lane change)
dont do tapping next time please, this is what we want to see how it react
Your vids would be better without that damn woman's voice.
Didn't see many challenging/unusual streets. Looking forward to trying it here in Oahu. Seems like all the streets on this island are wonky or under construction.
A *very* *easy* drive, but FSD continues to disappoint : 10:55 FSD fails to turn right on red. James *taps* *accel* *pedal* 11:20 James has to force the right turn. Not good 20:24 FSD is still *unable* *to* *go* *in* *reverse* . Unbelievable 35:28 A big dip in the road, FSD drives too fast
These things all seem pretty minor if you ask me
As far as FSD being a disappointment, my wife and I use it every time we can! An imperfect tool that we love;
@@mcsmith9244 Can you imagine that some people paid 15k or 12k for this imperfect tool ?
To@@DerekDavis213 nothing is perfect, is the car you paid 40 or 50k perfect? The house you paid 500k- severa millions perfect? Bottom line: as long as you get your money's worth, it's a fair trade
@@fz8964 Of course nothing is perfect. But if FSD makes mistakes, that could cost you your life. Do you see the difference? And what makes it even worse, is the constant hype and untruths coming from Elan and his horde of influencers.
Tesla FSD V12 drives are getting duller and duller which is a great thing! Thank you so much for making this video. I hope that I will get this version of FSD in my car very soon!
This version seems to finally leave a larger gap in front in heavy traffic. That's great. Means smoother ride, safer ride and less harsh braking necessary if the car in front does some heavy braking. It allows also for more economic driving, as the ego car makes more use of regen if the car in front stops, as it can do this slower. Great progress there. :)
Leaving large gaps in heavy traffic will result in getting honked, cursed, flipped off at in some places, like SoCal LOL
@@duncansosso8010Many times drivers should really leave large gaps especially in stop and go traffic which allows you to keep a steady rolling speed without propagating the stops and deceleration. Screw the fools that don't understand this. Ive been driving this way for years in so cal and generally do not get hassled.
@@duncansosso8010I can see that being the case for sure but lots of accidents happen due to not allowing enough following distance. It’s a people problem unfortunately.
@@maxsteele1 100% agree. Good luck conveying that logic to a bunch of buffoons on the road, however.
2:23 if any FSD tester ever complains again about the slow acceleration, just show them this merc speeding up ;D
From what I see, it looks so much better than version 12.3.6. I have been waiting for 12.4.x for several weeks now and I wonder why it is not yet available here in Canada. Any idea?
Tesla could install an enjoyment lever. the pessenger/driver uses the lever to communicate his satisfaction level. Tesla could use this data to fine-tune their systems. It would be a simple yet powerful way to involve customers directly in the iterative process of vehicle development and refinement.
Hunger strike for the enjoyment lever!!
Hunger strike for the enjoyment lever!!
It looks like you could really enjoy it with this version. No nag, just an optional accelerator push here and there, and you are at the destination.
Just watched a video of 2023 Lexus ES and the assist couldn't even stay straight in its lane on the highway. Tesla is just so far advanced to competitors it's not even close
Tesla's 'advanced' FSD does not work properly. It is 100% Supervised, when Elon promised Self Driving. That was 8 years ago.
@@DerekDavis213 Who cares about Elon's promise? He is a CEO, selling the dream, and has done something incredibly amazing that no one thought was possible. Come take a drive here in Southern California 25% of the cars on the road are Teslas and that is not an exaggeration. You will see them lined up at every stop light. The bottom line is his FSD is 10x better than the next competitor. I own Tesla stock but not a Tesla.
How does it perform at night with rain and low visibility?
Can't speak to version 12.4, but 12.3 does fine in the rain, it limits it's max speeds and beeps, but drives just fine even in pretty heavy driving rain. At night the car drives fine, but will ultimately turn off entirely when the inside camera can't see you, which is annoying. It will control headlights to enable and disable high beams.
FSD does not have Radar, or Lidar, or Ultrasonic sensors. So of course performance at night, rain, or fog is going to *suffer* .
@@DerekDavis213 Humans do fine with none of those things, and so does FSD...
@@DerekDavis213no it doesn't. You don't need these extra sensors. Simple advanced optical science.
That’s weird. It did the same 3 speed bumps flawlessly with 12.4.2 (although there was leading car and none here) but not this version. Maybe that was the “ER” type data that Elon was talking about and they diluted it with too much normal driving for more polish in 12.4.3.
You have the camera report button at the top center of your screen
WOW. The evolution is amazing I can't wait to see where this tech will be in just 3-5 years
I want FSD to work but after seeing this video with the last-second lane changes and hesitation at intersections, I cancelled my subscription. I've had v12.3.6 for awhile and it does many things well but has some of the same issues as what I'm seeing in this video (last-second lane changes, hesitation at intersections) plus some other issues (speed limits based on erroneous map data instead of posted speed limit signs, hard braking at intersections when the traffic signal changes to yellow), but I've decided I don't want to pay Tesla $99/month to test their FSD software. Tesla should pay me $99/month to test their software. When FSD can drive as confidently as I can while also driving safely, then I'll be the first to renew my subscription. Kudos to Tesla for all they've accomplished thus far with FSD. I wish them luck and will be following this channel and others looking for progress.
Aggressive braking at yellow lights is both uncomfortable and dangerous. The top priority in developing FSD should be ensuring comfort and safety.
Wowww cycling through FSD version numbers like there is no tomorrow.. it's becoming a joke! Think Tesla has laid off way too many topnotch FSD developmental engineers that took their secret sauces with them!!
Point of FSD is to get u from point A to point B safely abiding road rules. I don't think one should expect it to have your own individual driving style..!
Yeah I see the 5x improvements on interventions per mile. Just in the wrong direction.
Can you turn the fan down a bit the next time? Thanks! :)
Wait what 50ºC?! You need that airco fan!
is it possible to ask your tesla to drive without a person inside the car just a short ride loop only and lets see how it can comeback home safely
Late deceleration forcing friction brakes still happening. The car needs to start regen earlier and use full regen much sooner if needed to slow down fast. 3:58, 5:13, 12:55
Apparently you are doing same routes and know the weak and strong points of previous versions. You should mention them in each ride otherwise all your videos look the same
It surely can drive. It needs a bit of confidence boost at the intersectons, and lane staging could be sooner. Speed and smoothness seem nice.
In big cities, FSD is nowhere even close to being trustworthy. Many examples right here on KZread in LA, New York, Chicago, Toronto .
Thanks for making the video. It would be nice if it were a more challenging drive. Better than doing a freeway drive but not much interesting to see. I guess FSD is getting so good, videos like this are becoming boring.
FSD is not so good, when driving in the busy big city: New York, Chicago, Toronto, Los Angeles. Still many interventions are required.
Boring You need to speed up your videos. Why would I want to watch your car drive you around for no reason.
Not slowing for speed bumps is a speed bump.
7:45 probably stayed right lane because of the car behind on the left going fast
Did it have trouble with the speedbumps because they were all black? OP: Did previous versions notice them?
Previous versions had problems with speed bumps, going back 4 point releases. Mr. Locke reported the problem every time to Tesla, but that has had no effect.
wheres my update. ima return my car if i don't get it soon. my car alarmed out today an strike me despite input on the wheel an taking over. i filmed it though an schedule service with tesla.
Please use the camera from the other car can't really see the road from this one. Thank you sir.
It's really starting to feel like neural nets as an autonomy solution are hitting a plateau, where emphasizing something in the training makes something else regress. The momentum seems lost compared to the first v12 wide release. Maybe better hardware could help that, but it's hard not to lose confidence watching these test drives.
That's because the neural net is pretending to know how to drive, versus knowing how the roadways work and driving based on rules, like us humans do. Eventually they will need to inform the neural network with much more knowledge of the world, ballooning the compute required to drive as well as a competent human driver can.
Agreed. People that have been watching the evolution of FSD have *lost* *confidence* a long time ago.
@@vinny9152 Agreed. Not sure why they switched from all C++ code to all neural nets. Can rules be integrated into a neural net to get the best of both?
@@DerekDavis213Anybody with common sense can sense that. Except those cyber bulls. Herbert Ong from the KZread channel “brighter with Herbert” is the worst. FSD 12.4x is definitely not the 5-10x improvement that Elon claimed it would be.
@@user-py7or7zi5k The problem with code is that it takes time to load and run - leading to slower decision making from FSD. Will not surprise me if Tesla resort to using LiDAR or ultrasonics. At the moment all that Tesla seems to be doing is throwing billions of dollars at compute and AI with minimal or no progress in the driving experience. What a waste of resources!
when did 12.4.3 come out?
A few hours before your comment.
50°c? Are u in arizona or v3gas or something
So. Many. Regressions. So disappointing Tesla!
But Elmo says 'a game changer' and 'best ever' and 'better than a human driver'. what a joke
What year is your car? That's crazy car still not slowing for speedbumps
The year of the car is irrelevant. The software and the cameras and GPS and detailed maps should handle speed bumps. But FSD is still not slowing down consistently, after *four* *years* *in* *beta* .
@@DerekDavis213 it's not irrelevant to me, I ask because I have a 2018 with FSD and I want to know how other new cars perform comparing to mine as I have different chip.
Looks like they regressed yet again and took out speed bump recognition, something it has had since. 12.1. Sad.
That is not quite right. FSD 12.3.5 and 12.3.6 sometimes ignored speed bumps. This has been an *ongoing* *issue* .
@@DerekDavis213 not for me. It has always recognized speed bumps for me.
@@glen7567 Your experience doesn't change the fact that *many* FSD v12 reviews on KZread show the simpleminded software going full speed over speed bumps. And that can damage the car.
Speed limit in a neighborhood is 25 unless posted