I disagree, I own both, and the ms 170 has been alot more reliable and cuts just as quick, despite engine size.
@CTBLAS5 күн бұрын
The ms205 is the newer version of the 025. The 251 is the woke version of the ms250. My 025 is 32 years old and still going strong. I somehow don't think anyone will say that about the 251.
@saltrock96428 күн бұрын
Horrible video. Some of the saws used where not the saws being reviewed and one was a Chinese knockoff. Is that oil or fuel stabilizer being added to the fuel tank? Next time leave out all the fluff and just leave in the in-depth looks at the saws which I do like. And give a human a job instead of robot guy to narrate.
@apuuvah8 күн бұрын
Never, EVER use 50:1, but 40:1. Why? 50:1 is too little and 33:1 is too much. You're welcome.
@bas79059 күн бұрын
Terrible computer voice. Left as soon as i typed this comment. Terrible.
@tuberocker6917 күн бұрын
I'm surprised that clutch cover didn't break with the tork you put on those nuts Sheesh!
@TruggyDriver6920 күн бұрын
The ms391 is complete junk.
@paulmurrayphotography210029 күн бұрын
pointless.... gap is 0.2 but might be upto 0.3
@waywehАй бұрын
Thank you for the video. It really explains a lot. 👍👍
@obbiebeal3060Ай бұрын
When we do not know , we do not know . Example : most do not know chain saws are HIGH MAINTENANCE , therefore it is essential to perform inspection BOTH before and after USE of the saw.
@dukehoffman124Ай бұрын
Which is better at altitude , I cut at about 10,000 feet .?
@justjames9775Ай бұрын
AI narration sucks.
@jamesdalme8246Ай бұрын
Dont waste $1700 on a computerized saw that you can not work on! The chainsaw was perfected in the 90s. The dealers want you to buy computerized saws so that you have to run back to them cap in hand to fix it. I have a Stihl 044 that was made in the early 90s that has 5.4 hp at 14 pounds, and stil cuts and runs like a scalded ape. Thats not a huge leap in technology after over 30 years to get the non mtronic 462.
@berningsandwiches2662Ай бұрын
'50:1 increases efficiency. However, fuel consumption is high in this ratio.' How does this statement make sense?
@froghollowfirewoodllcАй бұрын
Both are awesome saws.
@jasonpeterson9276Ай бұрын
For the cost of the 500i i just stick with 661 or the o88.. got 2 o66 that are almost 20 years old now that still kick ass.
@jimbo19592 ай бұрын
You're talking about an MS251, BUT you're showing a 251c!!! Two different saws!!
@ronnieg63582 ай бұрын
What you don't say is that they are both extremely hard to start because they have a high compression. I have a 251 and am considering swapping it because of this. An inertia starter would help but it can't be converted.
@JamesBond-py8xs2 ай бұрын
What in the hell is a.carbuater??😂😂😂
@AworldAgainstHateSpeech2 ай бұрын
Chainswor go brrr
@Vipex134.2 ай бұрын
The Ms391 has a decomp valve on it tho. I own one
@user-wt7kw9ef6e2 ай бұрын
251 зборка якої країни ?
@billhowe48632 ай бұрын
462 is better, i wasn't impressed with the 500i at all, it's all top end and not a lot of torque
@RubberRivet2 ай бұрын
There's an actual test on KZread showing opposite results on temperature kzread.info/dash/bejne/a62rr85sYMKwgKw.html&ab_channel=Dave%27sSmallEngines
@benvasilinda97292 ай бұрын
Both are amazing saws but as a tree business owner and every tree business owner I know will have multiple MS460 series saws in their arsenal.
@billhowe48632 ай бұрын
I have an 046, one of my favorite saws
@MotoLife5412 ай бұрын
Never heard of somone pruning firewood lol. Saying that .1cc is going to make a big difference shows your lack of knowledge. The 025 is hand down a better saw despite having less displacement.
@henrikbrennecke30703 ай бұрын
3:35 oil in the gas tank💀
@user-fc6pe6sh9x3 ай бұрын
Lose the computer voice. That sucks, would’ve liked a good comparison video but couldn’t stand the first 10 seconds.
@7younggoldy43 ай бұрын
Well i found a MS 271 at the pawn shop today. Practically new for $350 flat. It will be my go to saw when i dont need the power of my 461 and 661
@narajuna3 ай бұрын
Seems obvious... new everything, but only works with direct injection. Poured carb leaner and rant like CRAZY! Had to unplug sparkplug.
@carlkaplin99643 ай бұрын
Has Land H on top cover what’s it for
@adamwix73523 ай бұрын
what's junk is these stupid AI generated reviews.... it's either that or whoever did this review has no kind of knowledge about a chainsaw. period..... totally useless
@campnoutdoors16214 ай бұрын
First of all you said the MS 250 has the advantage in terms of fuel capacity! Yet, the MS 251 gets better fuel efficiency by 20% so even though the tank is slightly smaller it gets much longer on a tank of fuel! To conclude I will simply say there is nothing worse than an uneducated person posting a video and giving uneducated answers
@2369chico4 ай бұрын
I run saw daily .if its not cutting it's not running. Im not concerned with a couple oz. Of fuel. Informative video
@bashdenny17684 ай бұрын
Best mini saw
@bashdenny17684 ай бұрын
Bar and chain eat
@bashdenny17684 ай бұрын
Ms 170 is a animal
@Swearengen19804 ай бұрын
Enough of this emissions bullshit. Every time I see models focused on emissions, I also see a drastic increase in complaints over power/efficiency, startup reliability, etc. These things are too expensive to keep f'n them up because of absurd over-reaching regulations and virtue signaling. Stop pushing that bullshit, a chainsaw is creating any notable greenhouse gasses. Also, is this AI reading? If not, learn how to say "carburetor".
@jtrocktree54094 ай бұрын
One is metal one is plastic, both junk.
@jeffreymabbe98294 ай бұрын
Ms 170 is a beast, never let me down but i realy take care of it to cut superalot of firewood 15 cords and more a year I have it 1 year and half and everything with this chainsaw no problems
@danielson1014 ай бұрын
go with manufacturer specs, they no what is best for the motor they built, i fully recommend premium gas always and a good oil, stihl and most chainsaw oils have preservative in it wich is good, dont cheap out with oil
@lancehughes41323 ай бұрын
Go with manufacturer specs cause they 'no' what's best ??? Like, have you driven a Ford lately ?
@danielson1014 ай бұрын
more power with less oil, it doesnt have to burn all that extra oil out exhaust?
@usualsuspectsfor1k4 ай бұрын
This video comparison is garbage. The weight of the 261 is wrong and the power of the 261 is wrong. Why would you put out a video like this???
@johnarnold36964 ай бұрын
The less amount of oil in the mixture, the more the wear. Raced and tuned two strokes for many years. Eve was witness to a 500cc race bike that was acidently run with no oil. It ran 2 days riding and ran good, but lost compression and hard to start. Even straight gas will lubricate somewhat. The more oil in the mix actually makes for a leaner air fuel mix due to the fuel being thicker. The adjustment of the fuel to air mixture can also even 20 to 1 to burn with exhaust being dry, and no slooge. There will be less wear at 20 to 1 than there is at 40 to 1 or 50 to 1, especially at 80 to 1. But correct air fuel ratio is of utmost importance, and is easily adjusted.
@SpynCycle574 ай бұрын
Can't find a human to read the script?
@user-km7up1ce4r4 ай бұрын
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@allwet664 ай бұрын
AI Junk don't waste your time
@jakegorman71215 ай бұрын
First hand experience, 025/MS250 is a way superior saw, HANDS DOWN!
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I disagree, I own both, and the ms 170 has been alot more reliable and cuts just as quick, despite engine size.
The ms205 is the newer version of the 025. The 251 is the woke version of the ms250. My 025 is 32 years old and still going strong. I somehow don't think anyone will say that about the 251.
Horrible video. Some of the saws used where not the saws being reviewed and one was a Chinese knockoff. Is that oil or fuel stabilizer being added to the fuel tank? Next time leave out all the fluff and just leave in the in-depth looks at the saws which I do like. And give a human a job instead of robot guy to narrate.
Never, EVER use 50:1, but 40:1. Why? 50:1 is too little and 33:1 is too much. You're welcome.
Terrible computer voice. Left as soon as i typed this comment. Terrible.
I'm surprised that clutch cover didn't break with the tork you put on those nuts Sheesh!
The ms391 is complete junk.
pointless.... gap is 0.2 but might be upto 0.3
Thank you for the video. It really explains a lot. 👍👍
When we do not know , we do not know . Example : most do not know chain saws are HIGH MAINTENANCE , therefore it is essential to perform inspection BOTH before and after USE of the saw.
Which is better at altitude , I cut at about 10,000 feet .?
AI narration sucks.
Dont waste $1700 on a computerized saw that you can not work on! The chainsaw was perfected in the 90s. The dealers want you to buy computerized saws so that you have to run back to them cap in hand to fix it. I have a Stihl 044 that was made in the early 90s that has 5.4 hp at 14 pounds, and stil cuts and runs like a scalded ape. Thats not a huge leap in technology after over 30 years to get the non mtronic 462.
'50:1 increases efficiency. However, fuel consumption is high in this ratio.' How does this statement make sense?
Both are awesome saws.
For the cost of the 500i i just stick with 661 or the o88.. got 2 o66 that are almost 20 years old now that still kick ass.
You're talking about an MS251, BUT you're showing a 251c!!! Two different saws!!
What you don't say is that they are both extremely hard to start because they have a high compression. I have a 251 and am considering swapping it because of this. An inertia starter would help but it can't be converted.
What in the hell is a.carbuater??😂😂😂
Chainswor go brrr
The Ms391 has a decomp valve on it tho. I own one
251 зборка якої країни ?
462 is better, i wasn't impressed with the 500i at all, it's all top end and not a lot of torque
There's an actual test on KZread showing opposite results on temperature kzread.info/dash/bejne/a62rr85sYMKwgKw.html&ab_channel=Dave%27sSmallEngines
Both are amazing saws but as a tree business owner and every tree business owner I know will have multiple MS460 series saws in their arsenal.
I have an 046, one of my favorite saws
Never heard of somone pruning firewood lol. Saying that .1cc is going to make a big difference shows your lack of knowledge. The 025 is hand down a better saw despite having less displacement.
3:35 oil in the gas tank💀
Lose the computer voice. That sucks, would’ve liked a good comparison video but couldn’t stand the first 10 seconds.
Well i found a MS 271 at the pawn shop today. Practically new for $350 flat. It will be my go to saw when i dont need the power of my 461 and 661
Seems obvious... new everything, but only works with direct injection. Poured carb leaner and rant like CRAZY! Had to unplug sparkplug.
Has Land H on top cover what’s it for
what's junk is these stupid AI generated reviews.... it's either that or whoever did this review has no kind of knowledge about a chainsaw. period..... totally useless
First of all you said the MS 250 has the advantage in terms of fuel capacity! Yet, the MS 251 gets better fuel efficiency by 20% so even though the tank is slightly smaller it gets much longer on a tank of fuel! To conclude I will simply say there is nothing worse than an uneducated person posting a video and giving uneducated answers
I run saw daily .if its not cutting it's not running. Im not concerned with a couple oz. Of fuel. Informative video
Best mini saw
Bar and chain eat
Ms 170 is a animal
Enough of this emissions bullshit. Every time I see models focused on emissions, I also see a drastic increase in complaints over power/efficiency, startup reliability, etc. These things are too expensive to keep f'n them up because of absurd over-reaching regulations and virtue signaling. Stop pushing that bullshit, a chainsaw is creating any notable greenhouse gasses. Also, is this AI reading? If not, learn how to say "carburetor".
One is metal one is plastic, both junk.
Ms 170 is a beast, never let me down but i realy take care of it to cut superalot of firewood 15 cords and more a year I have it 1 year and half and everything with this chainsaw no problems
go with manufacturer specs, they no what is best for the motor they built, i fully recommend premium gas always and a good oil, stihl and most chainsaw oils have preservative in it wich is good, dont cheap out with oil
Go with manufacturer specs cause they 'no' what's best ??? Like, have you driven a Ford lately ?
more power with less oil, it doesnt have to burn all that extra oil out exhaust?
This video comparison is garbage. The weight of the 261 is wrong and the power of the 261 is wrong. Why would you put out a video like this???
The less amount of oil in the mixture, the more the wear. Raced and tuned two strokes for many years. Eve was witness to a 500cc race bike that was acidently run with no oil. It ran 2 days riding and ran good, but lost compression and hard to start. Even straight gas will lubricate somewhat. The more oil in the mix actually makes for a leaner air fuel mix due to the fuel being thicker. The adjustment of the fuel to air mixture can also even 20 to 1 to burn with exhaust being dry, and no slooge. There will be less wear at 20 to 1 than there is at 40 to 1 or 50 to 1, especially at 80 to 1. But correct air fuel ratio is of utmost importance, and is easily adjusted.
Can't find a human to read the script?
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AI Junk don't waste your time
First hand experience, 025/MS250 is a way superior saw, HANDS DOWN!
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