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  @shmkaneКүн бұрын

  Nice video, but you should be able to swipe up on the reverse camera screen to bring up the side repeater cameras. It was hard to see how far left/right the car was

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  @FSD_ObserverКүн бұрын

  Thanks for checking out the video @shmkane! That actually was a miss on my part. It didn't occur to me up until you mentioned it. Will make sure to have the side camera views next time. Thanks again

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  @Mooskers2 күн бұрын

  Didnt autopilot 1.0 do this?

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  @FSD_ObserverКүн бұрын

  Thanks for checking out the video @Mooskers! I don't think it had any prior feature of pothole avoidance per reddit threads and also from experience (trying out FSD 11 last year)

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  @DerekDavis2136 күн бұрын

  At 12:43 , FSD has no idea what WIldlife Crossing sign means. But any high school kid knows what that means .

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  @FSD_Observer3 күн бұрын

  Thanks for sharing your thoughts and checking out the video @DerekDavis213!

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  @christianhunt73827 күн бұрын

  Total waste of time

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  @FSD_Observer7 күн бұрын

  Thanks for checking out the video @christianhunt7382! I had to upload this as a short as I'm compiling a Shorts playlist for FSD 12.3.6 and the variations of All way stop cases and resulting behaviors. That way, documentation of such cases will prove that they exist and not just be a reasonable assumption

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  @richardmarshall1599 күн бұрын

  Well done! The musical accompaniment was boringly repetitive and was unnecessary

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  @FSD_Observer8 күн бұрын

  Thanks for checking out the video @richardmarshall159! Your feedback is noted. Will make more tweaks in the next videos

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  @DerekDavis2139 күн бұрын

  Thank you for your honesty, and detailed time stamps describing how FSD performed on this *short* 5 mile drive. FSD cannot even handle a short trip to 7-Eleven, without multiple problems. And Elon talks about a Robotaxi coming in 1 month? What a joke . At 7:57 FSD pulls directly into the 7-Eleven parking lot, and then *cannot* *park* *the* *car* in the available spots. Human had to disengage.

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  @richardmarshall1599 күн бұрын

  Maybe a bit self righteous Derek

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  @DerekDavis2139 күн бұрын

  @@richardmarshall159 Elon has made huge promises about FSD, over the last *eight* *years* . When I point out how disappointing that FSD is, in July of 2024, how is that self-righteous? Maybe you should look up the definition of that expression ?

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  @FSD_Observer8 күн бұрын

  Thanks @DerekDavis213 for checking out the video and sharing your thoughts. Will definitely retest this in the next versions to track progress!

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  @DerekDavis21310 күн бұрын

  Wow, it goes around a van on a residential street. Now, test FSD in a busy big city during morning or afternoon rush hour. Then what happens ?

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  @FSD_Observer8 күн бұрын

  Hi @DerekDavis213, thanks for checking out the video and the feedback! Testing it in Manhattan is on my list, which is in the planning stages. Bronx, Brooklyn, Queens, and Staten Island are also included!

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  @MrYOTOSTAR10 күн бұрын

  5:45 the oncoming car was only recognized very late. Dangerous

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  @FSD_Observer10 күн бұрын

  @@MrYOTOSTAR I hear you. It’s one of those “keep the supervised in FSD supervised” moments for me. Thanks for checking out the video!

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  @jonbanzon10 күн бұрын

  plenty of space, it would have stopped with enough . thanks for sharing

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  @FSD_Observer10 күн бұрын

  @@jonbanzon Thanks for checking out the video! i hear you and I also have that thought. It was a 50-50 for me. What made me decide to be on the less risky side was that I was not sure how far the vehicle is going to back up. If FSD stopped successfully but the other vehicle continued backing up more than FSD expected, the risk of collision would be more likely

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  @DerekDavis21311 күн бұрын

  At 1:10 if the Tesla was too close to the car in front, FSD would have *failed* *immediately* . Because after 4 years in development, when FSD is active it cannot go in reverse. Unbelievable, but true .

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  @FSD_Observer10 күн бұрын

  @@DerekDavis213 thanks for checking out the video and sharing your thoughts! You got me curious there of an active FSD that it cant go in reverse. I should find a way to test this scenario

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  @NielsSHansen11 күн бұрын

  As opposed to what, running him down?

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  @FSD_Observer10 күн бұрын

  @@NielsSHansen thanks for checking out the video! for this case, I dont think if the car continued moving forward that the pedestrian will get hit since he was actually checking traffic at the time the car slowed down and only crossed when it was clear. That said I’d like to know your take on this. If you’re driving, will you stop in this case? And if yes, what’s your take on the risk of getting rear-ended by the car behind you?

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  @NielsSHansen3 күн бұрын

  @@FSD_Observer you’re right, the rules require that you do not stop in this case, it is a case of the Tesla acting overly cautious Had it been more sudden, it would be justified

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  @shagywagy700411 күн бұрын

  In California, every corner like that is a crosswalk. Doesn't matter if it's marked or not. Pedestrians still have the right of way.

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  @grezz97510 күн бұрын

  That is just another way California is wrong

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  @FSD_Observer10 күн бұрын

  @@shagywagy7004 thanks for sharing this point of information! I didn’t know Cali had a specific rule on this. I should remember this when driving there. Thanks for checking out the vid!

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  @FSD_Observer10 күн бұрын

  @@grezz975 thanks for sharing your take and also for checking out the video!

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  @nboccanfuso13 күн бұрын

  Why is this supposed to be exciting and/or amazing?

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  @FSD_Observer13 күн бұрын

  Thanks for checking out the vid @nboccanfuso! Not really meant to be exciting/ amazing but more on being balanced in this case. From a defensive driving standpoint, I've been thinking whether or not this presents some risks or maybe it doesn't. If stopping on a non-cross walk area, what is the chance of getting rear ended or, if moving forward, what happens if pedestrian insists on crossing? These are some things that I started thinking about as I continue to use FSD. What's your take on this?

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  @iSchmidty1312 күн бұрын

  @@FSD_Observerdefinitely interesting When I’m driving I don’t stop for pedestrians who aren’t waiting at crosswalks, but I of course stop if they walk in front of me. So it’s definitely a case-by-case snap decision

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  @FSD_Observer12 күн бұрын

  That would be my take too. I won't be waiting for pedestrians who aren't on crosswalks. That being said, I'd be ready to stop if they suddenly do too. @iSchmidty13 , Thanks for checking the video and sharing your thoughts!

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  @CaptnShrek13 күн бұрын

  Scarily awesome

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  @FSD_Observer13 күн бұрын

  Thanks for checking out the vid @CaptnShrek!

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  @guero754314 күн бұрын

  It froze because it was waiting for the stop sign to turn into a green Go sign 😂

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  @FSD_Observer13 күн бұрын

  Maybe lol Thanks for checking out the vid @guero7543!

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  @DerekDavis21315 күн бұрын

  Plenty of parking spots, but FSD cannot park the car. After 4 years in beta, and tons of AI and Neural Nets. And 8 cameras.

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  @FSD_Observer13 күн бұрын

  Thanks for checking out the vid @DerekDavis213! I was surprised on this one as I thought it would stop like the prev version I tested (v12.3.2.1). Will def continue to test this case on the next version

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  @fuzzy.fuz.16 күн бұрын

  Cool

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  @euis-qu5el15 күн бұрын

  Nice

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  @FSD_Observer15 күн бұрын

  Thanks for checking out the video @fuzzy.fuz.!

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  @FSD_Observer15 күн бұрын

  Thanks for checking out the video @euis-qu5el!

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  @DerekDavis21316 күн бұрын

  FSD cannot even handle a very easy *6* *minute* drive, without *disengagement* . Of course the fan bois will say: 12.5 will be a game-changer! We've heard that before .

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  @FSD_Observer15 күн бұрын

  Thanks for dropping by and sharing your thoughts @DerekDavis213!

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  @Kaipiso16 күн бұрын

  Can't wait to see your observations on 12.4.3. It will probably make many mistakes at this release. But should be awesome after a few subversion updates, when Tesla incorporates data from the cars driving this revision. All love no-wheel-nag of course, I hope it is not too strict.

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  @DerekDavis21316 күн бұрын

  How come 12.3.6 wasn't awesome, after lots of Neural Nets updates? In this video, FSD fails on a 2 mile drive. what a joke

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  @Kaipiso16 күн бұрын

  @@DerekDavis213 12.3.6 is awesome. 12.4.6 will just be much better.

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  @DerekDavis21316 күн бұрын

  @@Kaipiso Keep dreaming, keep boosting Tesla Corp. The real world does not share your enthusiasm for FSD.

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  @FSD_Observer15 күн бұрын

  Thanks for checking out the video @Kaipiso! Looking forward to the next version and see what's different. Hopefully wide-release happens soon!

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  @FSD_Observer15 күн бұрын

  Thanks for checking out the video @DerekDavis213! I hear you, I'll definitely test the new version once it's out and see what happens on that same 2 mile drive

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  @cameron399119 күн бұрын

  Didn't even have to watch the video to tell you testlas are trash 😂

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  @FSD_Observer18 күн бұрын

  I hear you. Thanks for sharing your thoughts @cameron3991 and also for dropping by on this vid!

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  @petemcintire433919 күн бұрын

  A lot of money for a self driving car that can't drive.

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  @FSD_Observer18 күн бұрын

  Thanks for checking out the video and sharing your thoughts @petemcintire4339! Yes, it does have limitations and not for everyone. Will continue to test track progress!

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  @Kaipiso19 күн бұрын

  Thanks for the upload. It is a common theme that the car has a hard time at start and destination parking lots. But driving on the streets is quite fine. I think there was like one subversion (12.3?) that was awesome with often pulling safely to the side and finishing the drive. This needs improvement for sure. It might require much larger AI model though, as parking lots can be very random, complicated or misleading.

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  @FSD_Observer18 күн бұрын

  Thanks @Kaipiso for checking out this vid. Yes that's pretty much the theme. I' just finished short drive edition tests and it's the common denominator among them. Street drives are quite fine. The subversion that I tested that was awesome with often pulling safely to the side and finishing the drive was FSD 12.3.2.1. I had a Dunkin Test on this and at the end it parked itself on a vacant space, although the parking spot didn't have lines though

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  @Kaipiso19 күн бұрын

  3:52 - FSD was not stopping for the pedestrian, but keeping the intersection clear. It was waiting for the car in front to leave more room.

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  @FSD_Observer18 күн бұрын

  oh snap, that might be it. Thanks for point this out @Kaipiso!

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  @Kaipiso19 күн бұрын

  I wonder why speed limit dropped at 7:40. My guess would be that there used to be some kind of road constructions at this spot and slower speed limit was there for some time.

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  @Kaipiso19 күн бұрын

  It would also mean that speed is not always based on vision data only. And that is a bit concerning, but could be connected to lack of long term memory managed by the FSD alone, not by the navigation module or data.

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  @FSD_Observer18 күн бұрын

  Thanks for checking out the vid @Kaipiso. Yea, it seems like it's a problem that's been there for a while. Even last year i noticed it w/ FSD 11. There were no recent road constructions and presence of slower speed limit signs. That said, another person commented in one of my vid w/ the same issue and was able to reproduce what I encountered but still unsure why

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  @FSD_Observer18 күн бұрын

  Yes, that's what I was thinking too. it's not always based on vision data only and it could be for the reasoning you pointed out

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  @Kaipiso18 күн бұрын

  @@FSD_Observer I think you should keep disengaging there and voice reporting, as it seems as a local issue. And pray that someone will notice that one day. You can also try to disable FSD before that spot. And drive manually with a proper speed. In theory, FSD runs in shadow mode in the background and compares its prediction to your drive style. If a huge difference is found, it might be reported or somehow corrected.

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  @FSD_Observer17 күн бұрын

  @@Kaipiso yes, I should do the voice reporting. That's the one thing i haven't done yet. Will do that for next time. Thanks!

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  @Kaipiso19 күн бұрын

  Nice video, commentary, timestamps. Just not sure about the music. Good work, keep it up! Thanks for posting.

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  @FSD_Observer18 күн бұрын

  I'll try to find some music that could go better for these types of videos. That said, thanks for checking out video!

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  @Kaipiso19 күн бұрын

  Great timestamps and description! Good cool commentary to the point without too many emotions.

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  @FSD_Observer18 күн бұрын

  Much appreciated, thanks @Kaipiso for checking out the video!

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  @philliesfan1flyeaglesfly33022 күн бұрын

  No chance would I be comfortable using FSD and having to pay $99 a month on top or $8000 at time of purchase makes it and even easier decision. That off ramp nonsense is scary.

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  @FSD_Observer22 күн бұрын

  Hi @philliesfan1flyeaglesfly330, thanks for sharing your perspective on FSD. On another note, thanks for checking out the video! I’ll definitely retest this for the next version to track progress

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  @tomrobinson829022 күн бұрын

  Thanks for the testing! FSD going into the off-ramp during the highway lane change was very surprising. Scary

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  @FSD_Observer22 күн бұрын

  Thanks for checking out the video @tomrobinson8290! Yea, that was unexpected for me, I’m still trying to figure out at what scenario it gets triggered because not all off ramp exits are like this. That said this was a new test for me, so maybe that? Looking forward to test this on the next version

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  @DerekDavis21323 күн бұрын

  *FOUR* problems or interventions on a short simple drive. This is Sesame Street, for a human. FSD software continues to disappoint .

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  @FSD_Observer22 күн бұрын

  Thanks for checking out the video @DerekDavis213! I’m learning a lot in these shorter drives. I def need to test this again for the next version

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  @DerekDavis21324 күн бұрын

  A simple 5 mile drive, and FSD just can't make it without *human* *intervention* . Disappointing. Full autonomy is years away.

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  @FSD_Observer23 күн бұрын

  I hear you. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this @DerekDavis213 and also for checking out the video! Will continue to test. I just finished a short drive edition testing. They were interesting. More to come!

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  @user-ke2up6mr8t25 күн бұрын

  Maybe fsd only pulls out of large parking spaces where you are backed in and tons of room in front. I can say that fsd doesn't work on most parking spaces I have tried

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  @FSD_Observer25 күн бұрын

  Thanks for the insight @user-ke2up6mr8t! Now that you mentioned it, I do remember now that the times it worked was when it had ample space. I’ll keep testing this. Also, thanks for checking out the video!

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  @user-ke2up6mr8t25 күн бұрын

  @@FSD_Observer yes and also maybe it only pulls forward. Tesla park assist only backs into parking spaces which is something I never do myself

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  @tomrobinson829026 күн бұрын

  Can you do more tests around westbury and Uniondale areas!

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  @FSD_Observer26 күн бұрын

  Yes, in-progress! Thanks for checkout the video @tomrobinson8290!

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  @Paul-366626 күн бұрын

  i like FSD

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  @FSD_Observer26 күн бұрын

  @Paul-3666 that's awesome! Thanks for checking out the video!

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  @websitemartian27 күн бұрын

  french workshop?

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  @FSD_Observer27 күн бұрын

  Thanks for checking out the video @websitemartian! Yes, this is a clip from The French Workshop Test. I name my tests based on the FSD nav’s destination. This is the actual link to the full test video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/lmqdssWCe5qbfdY.htmlfeature=shared

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  @UberDudeАй бұрын

  What was I supposed to see? It appears to have done a normal right turn like FSD successfully does a million times.

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  @FSD_ObserverАй бұрын

  Thanks for checking out the video @UberDude! I agree that this can be redundant, but I’m breaking down my long form tests to bite size shorts so I can compile it into a playlist per version and another one for disengages per version. That way whoever wants to track the progress can see the successful and unsuccessful cases so they can make their own conclusion about the FSD tech and whether or not it makes sense for their use case

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  @jimmjimmsАй бұрын

  😂😂😂 good luck bro hope you dont get hurt or end up laible for hurting someone else. Hey, at least its good at being a waste of money🎉

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  @FSD_ObserverАй бұрын

  Haha thanks, I actually didn't buy this. I'm only subscribed for FSD month to month. Thanks for checking out the video @jimmjimms!

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  @tylerlanceGSDАй бұрын

  Imagine buying this but still keeping ypur hand on the wheel because you truly dont trust it

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  @jimmjimmsАй бұрын

  couldnt pay me to trust this thing with my life

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  @FSD_ObserverАй бұрын

  I hear you. It's part of the FSD needs to have hands on wheel while it's engaged or else it'll keep on nagging. That said I'm looking forward for it to not require it and remove the nagging. Thanks for checking out the video @tylerlanceGSD!

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  @FSD_ObserverАй бұрын

  Yea, this is totally understandable, that's why I always keep my hands on the wheel to easily intervene if necessary. Thanks for checking out the video @@jimmjimms!

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  @DerekDavis213Ай бұрын

  8 human interventions, on an easy *30* *mile* *drive* . FSD continues to disappoint.

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  @FSD_ObserverАй бұрын

  Hi DerekDavis213, I hear you, conducting more tests to track progress. Also, looking forward to the next version and thanks for checking out the video!

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  @jamesworsfold5553Ай бұрын

  WTF …..???

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  @FSD_ObserverАй бұрын

  Thanks for checking out the video @jamesworsfold5553! May I ask why for this comment?

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  @domtorres6120Ай бұрын

  I only see junk

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  @project-hobbyАй бұрын

  Food?

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  @FSD_ObserverАй бұрын

  Hi @project-hobby! Key Food is a grocery shop that FSD navigated to. I name the test based on the destination, hence the name Key Food Test. Thanks for checking out the video!

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  @holdingboost2024Ай бұрын

  Lol.... what was that?

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  @FSD_ObserverАй бұрын

  Thanks for checking out the video @holdingboost2024! There was a merging pickup truck on my right that suddenly switched to the lane right next to me (visible on the top section). I should put arrows next time on these to easily make it visible

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  @DerekDavis213Ай бұрын

  Thank you for your honest reviews of FSD. omg *so* *many* problems and disengagements during this short simple drive to Jollibee, which is the best chicken place by far! Level 5 Full Autonomy is years away. Elmo makes a lot of big promises, but they always fall flat .

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  @FSD_ObserverАй бұрын

  Thanks for checking out the video @DerekDavis213! I’m noticing that if the streets have special rules for turning that’s where FSD is having a challenging time. It will take some time for level 5. That said, I’ll keep testing as new versions are released to monitor progress. Also, Jollibee chicken for the win lol

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  @DerekDavis213Ай бұрын

  @@FSD_Observer Many people don't realize that FSD, with 8 cameras, cannot look at a scene then think/analyze/reason, like a human driver can do. A human can drive in any strange unexpected situation on the road, and ADAPT. FSD cannot do that, in the slightest.

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  @swimmerjosiahАй бұрын

  Speed camera?

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  @FSD_ObserverАй бұрын

  Thanks for checking out the video @swimmerjosiah, i don’t think there is a speed camera on this part of the highway, there’re just signs that says a speed limit but def not in the 40s

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  @iambenmitchellАй бұрын

  So no one is in the right lane yet you’re sat in the middle…

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  @FSD_ObserverАй бұрын

  Thanks for checking out the video @iambenmitchell! I’m not sure I’m following. There is a car to my right and FSD chose to be in the mid lane usually when traffic is not as heavy and the surrounding traffic is not a lot faster than FSD’s speed

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  @iambenmitchellАй бұрын

  @@FSD_Observer Yeah it seems in the US you just pass on any side and people chose any lane. In most countries it’s illegal to pass on the passenger side and when you have overtaken you then go back to the furthest lane

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  @FSD_ObserverАй бұрын

  @@iambenmitchell oh I see, thanks for that insight. Here in the US, on a three lane highway, the left lane is for passing, middle lane for cruising, and right lane for slower vehicles. Sometimes things gets mixed up when a slow car is on the left lane and other cars use the right lane as a result

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  @DogdickdaleАй бұрын

  Your car is horrible. Your personality is worse. Give up.

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  @conundrum51Ай бұрын

  Because it’s shit.

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  @FSD_ObserverАй бұрын

  Your sentiment is noted; and on another note, thanks for checking out the video @conundrum51!

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  @mosomos89Ай бұрын

  Yeah. There is a zone that is 55, there is a lane merge, and NO signs around, the GPS (Google and Waze) says the road is still 55 buy FSD Slams the breaks to 45 and there is always someone behind me. I have to disengage at that point every day on the way home from work.

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  @FSD_ObserverАй бұрын

  Thanks for checking out the video and sharing this insight @mosomos89! Much appreciated

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  @benjaminroberts7161Ай бұрын

  He didn't even turn the wheel...

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  @FSD_ObserverАй бұрын

  Thanks for checking out the video @benjaminroberts7161!

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  @rickleheАй бұрын

  Is there a minimum 40mph sign on the road?

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  @FSD_ObserverАй бұрын

  Hi @ricklehe, thanks for checking out the video. There is no 40mph sign on the road prior to the speed limit change