Not drawing and playing the 2 blue to extend your train would have avoided the tie.
@kellyalvarado653317 сағат бұрын
😂😅 I never have any idea why you play the way you do. It's so inefficient. But entertaining.
@TPH250290Күн бұрын
I really don't have a clue what you were trying to do in this game at any point.
@wfchannel4673Күн бұрын
i agreed with keeping all five routes. but it's atlanta to nashville turn one with an eye towards a path of san fran>la>el paso>dallas>little rock>nashville with a lot of options on how to hook up the rest and a lot of flexibility if anything you want gets blocked. also leaves you fairly open to claim most east coast routes if you draw tickets.
@FlamethrowerJaneКүн бұрын
Recreate lol! Great job, yellow player!
@KunomeКүн бұрын
Gg once again Matt! Always fun to hear your commentary of a game I’ve played in. All things considered I think you salvaged that as well as you could
@wfchannel4673Күн бұрын
pretty strongly disagreed with going houston to new orleans turn one, nashville to atlanta seemed the way better option, way more open if you secure that. houston to new orleans forces you to secure dallas to houston and new orleans to miami while you have little rock and st. louis as options out of nashville and you can go direct from atlanta to miami or through charleston. plus you have the nasville to pittsburgh, nashville to raleigh, and atlanta to raleigh options to move towards tornto, washington, and new york. furthermore burning green for la to phoenix is a huge mistake, save it for el paso to houston and you have no reason to go to kansas city. yellow makes the correct decision going dallas to okc, if you have a block option, take it.
@Dr.BoringКүн бұрын
into the game?
@adamwatson.1848Күн бұрын
Houston got its revenge.
@wfchannel46732 күн бұрын
green screwed this game up pretty badly. weird prioritization of routes on their part and they got blocked a lot. they definitely could've taken this game had they realized what you were going for and blocked any of your routes.
@TPH2502903 күн бұрын
Had a game yesterday where I finished 2nd with 190 points and 12 completed tickets (no misses). In hindsight I was in a position to end the game first when I had the most tickets, kept hunting and kept hitting some smaller ones, but in the same period another player hit on some much bigger tickets than they had. They scored 202 with 13 complete and 1 missed.
@TPH2502903 күн бұрын
You really needed to draw much, much earlier to see what you were aiming for. You only needed yellow and orange and you built up 25 cards, allowed red and yellow to monopolise the east coast and made it very difficult for yourself to actually utilise those cards.
@roverthtaeh3 күн бұрын
Why delay the end of the game one turn to get into Houston, when you don't have a Houston ticket and you're not gonna draw? Don't see the logic there.
@SargesMom-20193 күн бұрын
Good job yellow 🎉🎉
@frankiev16822 күн бұрын
Ty, I really enjoyed learning & playing with Sorcerermatt. It's his own fault. Being such a great teacher.
@frankiev16823 күн бұрын
Hey Mat, it's Recreate. Rec re eight (8). Thanks for the game. It was weird watching this. Knowing the outcome but not remembering what routes I took. Please invite me again if you see me on bga. THANKS!
@frankiev1682Күн бұрын
Guess if I could spell Matt, I'd have something to say. We'll just call it a typo.
@wfchannel46733 күн бұрын
yeah, needed to draw. you only really had portland to nashville as a big ticket and had portland to vancouver as a small ticket. you were plugged into the board decently. lotta stuff into houston you could've gotten.
@koipen3 күн бұрын
what an ending! Agreed you played pretty badly in the beginning but sometimes you strike lucky anyways!
@arivald66774 күн бұрын
4:53 The slowest bird definitely doesn't get the wurm. You had multiple turns to prevent that come one Matt, huge mistake.
@jacksonletts37244 күн бұрын
I’m not sure that’s true. There’s one turn he gets between green playing New York to Washington and getting locked out completely
@kellyalvarado65334 күн бұрын
28:00 why not go Vancouver to Calgary > use black to Helena > use blue to Winnipeg? Longest train, completed route, leave competition in the dust.
@samplautz55864 күн бұрын
This just happened to me. Had very similar tickets, and I got blocked out of a couple ways. Completed all but one like you. But as the game went on, I correctly concluded that I was the only one who had a ticket above 19 points. Somehow I ended up winning even though it felt like I was losing the whole time
@boydadams31524 күн бұрын
I was not expecting that. Nice win! I would have given up.
@adamwatson.18484 күн бұрын
This is the my favorite kind of game. You are feeling like you have no chance and then somehow win at the end and may or may not know how you did it.
@scotthamilton95155 күн бұрын
A dominant performance never in doubt
@wfchannel46735 күн бұрын
feel like keeping the miami routes was way riskier than keeping seattle to okc. but i think both starting route options had the potential to work. maybe a bit awkward starting tickets, but good ones. green pretty massively screws up not taking la to phoenix way earlier (and kinda screws up again going through vegas, feel with 3 orange in hand that san fran to salt lake was probably the better option for them). good read to spot yellow was taking black, i noticed that too.
@jaxkommish5 күн бұрын
Personal trivia here: My circle of friends loves TtR; because they are my friends, over the years I've played it 14 times. In every session, no matter how many players are present, I have come in dead last every time. Moral of the story: My friends know exactly what game to pull off the shelf when I need to be humbled
@tyku7575 күн бұрын
First one here?! Not often I get in early!
@AidenMautino-qb2xn7 күн бұрын
today i had a game where i had 8 east coast tickets and somehow managed to squeak into los Angeles letting me win with 14 tickets in total 😅
@wfchannel46737 күн бұрын
don't know why you didn't try for raleigh to nashville and went through little rock instead and you didn't have the trains for vegas to miami without abandoning either nashville or omaha so even with wilds it probably wasn't worth taking.
@adamwatson.18487 күн бұрын
Wonderful to play with you again. This was indeed a strange start. I actually started out as the east coast monkey with Chicago-Atlanta, New York-Nashville and New York-Miami which is while I pulled early and happened to get the LA routes. I was also a little disappointed that I couldn’t pull a Vegas ticket for the life of me. Lastly, I would gladly travel by train from Nashville to Omaha via Dallas, Miami, and Montreal. Love the content and glad I can help be a part of it.
@frankiev16827 күн бұрын
Red did that on purpose. Several times. Wonder if red feels people who complain about his/her action are babys...or in this case baabys? I dont mind a block to cause inconvenience but that was beyond.
@samplautz55867 күн бұрын
Just had an awesome game where I had a very similar ticket draw. I won by 20 points, even though the other guys had 7-8 tickets
@wfchannel46738 күн бұрын
felt like you had a big enough lead to risk drawing tickets at the end, and indeed you did. curious what you would've pulled. going for just ending it after your tickets were done was the play though.
@Kunome8 күн бұрын
Perfectly played! Also I love when everyone plays quickly and decisively enough to finish a 15 minute game
@joshdavis374313 күн бұрын
Someone call a doctor, that was a bloodbath.
@sjcak13 күн бұрын
From ~6:35 - 8:40 green had a Saint Louis-Nashville sized hole in their route - given we were heading that way, I think taking that route would've been advantageous, both to make the life of the strongest player more difficult, and keep our future route options as open as possible. When we eventually took a Nashville route, it took many turns to complete as the only way in was triple white.
@roverthtaeh13 күн бұрын
Surprised, given the high ELOs on show, that some of the obvious blocking opportunities weren't taken by any of the players, particularly early on.
@arivald667713 күн бұрын
Intentional blocking is bad in 90% cases, good players will not block you as its slows down both you and person blocking you, but helps 2 other players. You block only if you need the game to last few turns longer and by blocking specific route you delay player that was about to trigger endgame - so if blocking - block the top dog. Matt wasn't a threat to them this game, he didn't hold the most important routes for them (New York area) unfortunely he didn't realise this early and played bit too panicky. There was no reason to resign on longest train card for example. New players don't block because they want to be nice, veterans don't block because its waste of tempo and resources so playing it calm and collecting cards is often right - only exception is if you're in 4p game with ELO 150-250 range you should be extra careful. That being said people will take key routes super early so stuff like: LA-LV, Houston - New Orleans, will be gone after first circle often so there's a lot of unintentional blocking by people just taking good routes.
@roverthtaeh13 күн бұрын
Beg to differ. A strategic block can almost eliminate a player. Now you have a 1 in 3 chance of winning. I've used blocking to great effect before. And been blocked to great effect, too! I was also not referring to Matt being blocked. Each to their own!
@arivald667713 күн бұрын
@@roverthtaeh Congratulation you spent resources on blocking that poor guy, he's definitely not doing well. One enemy less. Yay!... except not really 2 other guys just got way more ahead, they did all the work with your hands.
@roverthtaeh13 күн бұрын
Thanks. Obviously, deeper game theory has passed you by. If someone has bigger tickets than you, through luck of the draw, then blocking them is your best strategy. As for enemies, who cares!
@glenm9913 күн бұрын
I liked the risky play! It definitely feels like the right strategy against such strong opponents. Plus, you know... it's entertaining!
@wfchannel467313 күн бұрын
yeah, this game basically game down to ticket draws. you were in decent shape to play a west coast game, but you need to draw west coast tickets to do that and you unfortunately did not.
@wfchannel467314 күн бұрын
yellow really just needed a good ticket draw that last turn to win. clearly they got all stuff they didn't have done and took portland to vancouver. they only lost by 17 even with your bonus. the problem for them is mostly down to what could they even draw. they overlap green with most of the big routes they'd want, aren't in new york, chicago, or denver, and have very little available. they probably should have drawn instead of blindly going up to seattle, but seeing what they draw it wouldn't have helped them anyway. ultimately they mostly just got unlucky, i don't think there were major problems with their strategy, though with those tickets i think they probably should have prioritized houston to new orleans early and gone across the bottom rather than crossing through duluth and helena.
@brianconley704614 күн бұрын
It just goes to show how one ticket draw can have a huge impact on a game. Well done!
@samplautz558612 күн бұрын
Ya, I’ve noticed that the majority of the time, I win when I don’t have large or small cards, but a bunch of 10-15 pointers. Sometimes you just screwed with a bunch of small tickets. I beat someone who had 12 tickets, and I only had 6. His tickets were all under 10 points
@XenusSerathiiIcelon14 күн бұрын
I think 16:52 was yellow trying to get you to block green up in the northwest. That would have been very rough on green, who was already in a tough spot having to still connect stuff that late. It would have made green miss out on their northwest routes, which at that point probably takes them out of the running. Either you didn't notice, or you rightly assessed that you did not need to block green to beat them. Whatever the case, that was an entertaining game!
@roverthtaeh14 күн бұрын
He didn't notice.
@kennethschmit891114 күн бұрын
Thanks for the vids Matt! I love these kinds of games. I finally finished watching all your older videos and I'm caught up to current, so I'm glad you are making new vids now. My favorite part of the game is when you draw new tickets, it's always a neat surprise when you already have one or more of the routes. You sound much more relaxed now than in your older videos. Hopefully it rains there more, those videos with the rain in the background were the best! Keep on playing!
@wfchannel467315 күн бұрын
not great starting tickets, but honestly i think i keep all 5 of them as the west coast stuff overlaps with itself well and leaves you in very good position to hook up pretty much any long east-west route if you draw it.
@MaTtUR5016 күн бұрын
The same week you're on a hot streak, I've been on a giant downswing. from 300 to 190 Elo...oof. Hoping to get some better draws soon
@wfchannel467316 күн бұрын
yeah, didn't think you needed to draw, how you're plugged into the board there just isn't enough you're hoping for especially considering how yellow is positioned on the board means they have a high potential to already have everything you want. once you do draw, taking chicago to atlanta as a 5 point loss was the play as all the tickets are unlikely to be completed anyway.
@AidenMautino-qb2xn16 күн бұрын
Future me: will St. Saint Murie to Montreal be taken ?!
@DrQuatsch17 күн бұрын
Yes, the Polish flag is white on the top and red on the bottom. Then there also is Monaco's flag which is basically the same as Indonesia's flag but just in a different width:height ratio. I probably wouldn't have taken the tickets into Duluth myself. I'd just have taken San Francisco to Atlanta and go from there, maybe get another ticket draw later on. All those Duluth tickets take quite some time to complete for very few points.
@Kunome17 күн бұрын
SF to Atlanta was bold! I may have not had the guts to choose that but I’m glad it worked out for you
@biopnumonic467617 күн бұрын
There was one other option if you had two extra turns to get the amount of trains needed for the missed route going duluth>sault st.> toronto. giving you the one last train needed to finish off charleston.
@wfchannel467317 күн бұрын
too risky that the other side of that gets taken if you take one side. then you're screwed. real mistake is taking chicago to saint louis too quickly (or really going saint louis to pittsburgh to begin with, it's extremely rare that bypassing chicago is worth it).
@wfchannel467317 күн бұрын
good game. i prefer taking denver to el paso because as what happened anyway you didn't complete what you drew there and honestly those routes weren't really worth going for. maybe if you stumble into a lot of yellow, red, or green you can claim it but just take it as a loss and move on. toronto to charleston is worse not just because it's more points, but also because it's all pairs to connect. at least you get points from the trains you use hooking up el paso, even if you only get 4 points from the ticket (which again, isn't a bad loss).
@TardyDougy17 күн бұрын
Instead of Toronto duluth you shoud go by Sault-Sainte-Marie and save 1 train
@johnwiens996416 күн бұрын
That would have given enough trains, but take longer and he already didn’t have enough time
@yolojaroyt981317 күн бұрын
That was so much fun man! Thanks for playing! (I maybe should have taken tickets in the end for bonus and additional points, what do you think?)
@wfchannel467317 күн бұрын
yeah, i think with the possibility of drawing la to new york, seattle to new york, and/or vancouver to montreal (since no one but you was in both of those, technically portland to pittsburgh was also available) that taking tickets was the play. plus it makes you more competitive for the 15 point bonus if you pick up small stuff.
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Not drawing and playing the 2 blue to extend your train would have avoided the tie.
😂😅 I never have any idea why you play the way you do. It's so inefficient. But entertaining.
I really don't have a clue what you were trying to do in this game at any point.
i agreed with keeping all five routes. but it's atlanta to nashville turn one with an eye towards a path of san fran>la>el paso>dallas>little rock>nashville with a lot of options on how to hook up the rest and a lot of flexibility if anything you want gets blocked. also leaves you fairly open to claim most east coast routes if you draw tickets.
Recreate lol! Great job, yellow player!
Gg once again Matt! Always fun to hear your commentary of a game I’ve played in. All things considered I think you salvaged that as well as you could
pretty strongly disagreed with going houston to new orleans turn one, nashville to atlanta seemed the way better option, way more open if you secure that. houston to new orleans forces you to secure dallas to houston and new orleans to miami while you have little rock and st. louis as options out of nashville and you can go direct from atlanta to miami or through charleston. plus you have the nasville to pittsburgh, nashville to raleigh, and atlanta to raleigh options to move towards tornto, washington, and new york. furthermore burning green for la to phoenix is a huge mistake, save it for el paso to houston and you have no reason to go to kansas city. yellow makes the correct decision going dallas to okc, if you have a block option, take it.
into the game?
Houston got its revenge.
green screwed this game up pretty badly. weird prioritization of routes on their part and they got blocked a lot. they definitely could've taken this game had they realized what you were going for and blocked any of your routes.
Had a game yesterday where I finished 2nd with 190 points and 12 completed tickets (no misses). In hindsight I was in a position to end the game first when I had the most tickets, kept hunting and kept hitting some smaller ones, but in the same period another player hit on some much bigger tickets than they had. They scored 202 with 13 complete and 1 missed.
You really needed to draw much, much earlier to see what you were aiming for. You only needed yellow and orange and you built up 25 cards, allowed red and yellow to monopolise the east coast and made it very difficult for yourself to actually utilise those cards.
Why delay the end of the game one turn to get into Houston, when you don't have a Houston ticket and you're not gonna draw? Don't see the logic there.
Good job yellow 🎉🎉
Ty, I really enjoyed learning & playing with Sorcerermatt. It's his own fault. Being such a great teacher.
Hey Mat, it's Recreate. Rec re eight (8). Thanks for the game. It was weird watching this. Knowing the outcome but not remembering what routes I took. Please invite me again if you see me on bga. THANKS!
Guess if I could spell Matt, I'd have something to say. We'll just call it a typo.
yeah, needed to draw. you only really had portland to nashville as a big ticket and had portland to vancouver as a small ticket. you were plugged into the board decently. lotta stuff into houston you could've gotten.
what an ending! Agreed you played pretty badly in the beginning but sometimes you strike lucky anyways!
4:53 The slowest bird definitely doesn't get the wurm. You had multiple turns to prevent that come one Matt, huge mistake.
I’m not sure that’s true. There’s one turn he gets between green playing New York to Washington and getting locked out completely
28:00 why not go Vancouver to Calgary > use black to Helena > use blue to Winnipeg? Longest train, completed route, leave competition in the dust.
This just happened to me. Had very similar tickets, and I got blocked out of a couple ways. Completed all but one like you. But as the game went on, I correctly concluded that I was the only one who had a ticket above 19 points. Somehow I ended up winning even though it felt like I was losing the whole time
I was not expecting that. Nice win! I would have given up.
This is the my favorite kind of game. You are feeling like you have no chance and then somehow win at the end and may or may not know how you did it.
A dominant performance never in doubt
feel like keeping the miami routes was way riskier than keeping seattle to okc. but i think both starting route options had the potential to work. maybe a bit awkward starting tickets, but good ones. green pretty massively screws up not taking la to phoenix way earlier (and kinda screws up again going through vegas, feel with 3 orange in hand that san fran to salt lake was probably the better option for them). good read to spot yellow was taking black, i noticed that too.
Personal trivia here: My circle of friends loves TtR; because they are my friends, over the years I've played it 14 times. In every session, no matter how many players are present, I have come in dead last every time. Moral of the story: My friends know exactly what game to pull off the shelf when I need to be humbled
First one here?! Not often I get in early!
today i had a game where i had 8 east coast tickets and somehow managed to squeak into los Angeles letting me win with 14 tickets in total 😅
don't know why you didn't try for raleigh to nashville and went through little rock instead and you didn't have the trains for vegas to miami without abandoning either nashville or omaha so even with wilds it probably wasn't worth taking.
Wonderful to play with you again. This was indeed a strange start. I actually started out as the east coast monkey with Chicago-Atlanta, New York-Nashville and New York-Miami which is while I pulled early and happened to get the LA routes. I was also a little disappointed that I couldn’t pull a Vegas ticket for the life of me. Lastly, I would gladly travel by train from Nashville to Omaha via Dallas, Miami, and Montreal. Love the content and glad I can help be a part of it.
Red did that on purpose. Several times. Wonder if red feels people who complain about his/her action are babys...or in this case baabys? I dont mind a block to cause inconvenience but that was beyond.
Just had an awesome game where I had a very similar ticket draw. I won by 20 points, even though the other guys had 7-8 tickets
felt like you had a big enough lead to risk drawing tickets at the end, and indeed you did. curious what you would've pulled. going for just ending it after your tickets were done was the play though.
Perfectly played! Also I love when everyone plays quickly and decisively enough to finish a 15 minute game
Someone call a doctor, that was a bloodbath.
From ~6:35 - 8:40 green had a Saint Louis-Nashville sized hole in their route - given we were heading that way, I think taking that route would've been advantageous, both to make the life of the strongest player more difficult, and keep our future route options as open as possible. When we eventually took a Nashville route, it took many turns to complete as the only way in was triple white.
Surprised, given the high ELOs on show, that some of the obvious blocking opportunities weren't taken by any of the players, particularly early on.
Intentional blocking is bad in 90% cases, good players will not block you as its slows down both you and person blocking you, but helps 2 other players. You block only if you need the game to last few turns longer and by blocking specific route you delay player that was about to trigger endgame - so if blocking - block the top dog. Matt wasn't a threat to them this game, he didn't hold the most important routes for them (New York area) unfortunely he didn't realise this early and played bit too panicky. There was no reason to resign on longest train card for example. New players don't block because they want to be nice, veterans don't block because its waste of tempo and resources so playing it calm and collecting cards is often right - only exception is if you're in 4p game with ELO 150-250 range you should be extra careful. That being said people will take key routes super early so stuff like: LA-LV, Houston - New Orleans, will be gone after first circle often so there's a lot of unintentional blocking by people just taking good routes.
Beg to differ. A strategic block can almost eliminate a player. Now you have a 1 in 3 chance of winning. I've used blocking to great effect before. And been blocked to great effect, too! I was also not referring to Matt being blocked. Each to their own!
@@roverthtaeh Congratulation you spent resources on blocking that poor guy, he's definitely not doing well. One enemy less. Yay!... except not really 2 other guys just got way more ahead, they did all the work with your hands.
Thanks. Obviously, deeper game theory has passed you by. If someone has bigger tickets than you, through luck of the draw, then blocking them is your best strategy. As for enemies, who cares!
I liked the risky play! It definitely feels like the right strategy against such strong opponents. Plus, you know... it's entertaining!
yeah, this game basically game down to ticket draws. you were in decent shape to play a west coast game, but you need to draw west coast tickets to do that and you unfortunately did not.
yellow really just needed a good ticket draw that last turn to win. clearly they got all stuff they didn't have done and took portland to vancouver. they only lost by 17 even with your bonus. the problem for them is mostly down to what could they even draw. they overlap green with most of the big routes they'd want, aren't in new york, chicago, or denver, and have very little available. they probably should have drawn instead of blindly going up to seattle, but seeing what they draw it wouldn't have helped them anyway. ultimately they mostly just got unlucky, i don't think there were major problems with their strategy, though with those tickets i think they probably should have prioritized houston to new orleans early and gone across the bottom rather than crossing through duluth and helena.
It just goes to show how one ticket draw can have a huge impact on a game. Well done!
Ya, I’ve noticed that the majority of the time, I win when I don’t have large or small cards, but a bunch of 10-15 pointers. Sometimes you just screwed with a bunch of small tickets. I beat someone who had 12 tickets, and I only had 6. His tickets were all under 10 points
I think 16:52 was yellow trying to get you to block green up in the northwest. That would have been very rough on green, who was already in a tough spot having to still connect stuff that late. It would have made green miss out on their northwest routes, which at that point probably takes them out of the running. Either you didn't notice, or you rightly assessed that you did not need to block green to beat them. Whatever the case, that was an entertaining game!
He didn't notice.
Thanks for the vids Matt! I love these kinds of games. I finally finished watching all your older videos and I'm caught up to current, so I'm glad you are making new vids now. My favorite part of the game is when you draw new tickets, it's always a neat surprise when you already have one or more of the routes. You sound much more relaxed now than in your older videos. Hopefully it rains there more, those videos with the rain in the background were the best! Keep on playing!
not great starting tickets, but honestly i think i keep all 5 of them as the west coast stuff overlaps with itself well and leaves you in very good position to hook up pretty much any long east-west route if you draw it.
The same week you're on a hot streak, I've been on a giant downswing. from 300 to 190 Elo...oof. Hoping to get some better draws soon
yeah, didn't think you needed to draw, how you're plugged into the board there just isn't enough you're hoping for especially considering how yellow is positioned on the board means they have a high potential to already have everything you want. once you do draw, taking chicago to atlanta as a 5 point loss was the play as all the tickets are unlikely to be completed anyway.
Future me: will St. Saint Murie to Montreal be taken ?!
Yes, the Polish flag is white on the top and red on the bottom. Then there also is Monaco's flag which is basically the same as Indonesia's flag but just in a different width:height ratio. I probably wouldn't have taken the tickets into Duluth myself. I'd just have taken San Francisco to Atlanta and go from there, maybe get another ticket draw later on. All those Duluth tickets take quite some time to complete for very few points.
SF to Atlanta was bold! I may have not had the guts to choose that but I’m glad it worked out for you
There was one other option if you had two extra turns to get the amount of trains needed for the missed route going duluth>sault st.> toronto. giving you the one last train needed to finish off charleston.
too risky that the other side of that gets taken if you take one side. then you're screwed. real mistake is taking chicago to saint louis too quickly (or really going saint louis to pittsburgh to begin with, it's extremely rare that bypassing chicago is worth it).
good game. i prefer taking denver to el paso because as what happened anyway you didn't complete what you drew there and honestly those routes weren't really worth going for. maybe if you stumble into a lot of yellow, red, or green you can claim it but just take it as a loss and move on. toronto to charleston is worse not just because it's more points, but also because it's all pairs to connect. at least you get points from the trains you use hooking up el paso, even if you only get 4 points from the ticket (which again, isn't a bad loss).
Instead of Toronto duluth you shoud go by Sault-Sainte-Marie and save 1 train
That would have given enough trains, but take longer and he already didn’t have enough time
That was so much fun man! Thanks for playing! (I maybe should have taken tickets in the end for bonus and additional points, what do you think?)
yeah, i think with the possibility of drawing la to new york, seattle to new york, and/or vancouver to montreal (since no one but you was in both of those, technically portland to pittsburgh was also available) that taking tickets was the play. plus it makes you more competitive for the 15 point bonus if you pick up small stuff.