I destroyed a local Weta on my Nacra 5.2 with spinnaker. I guess they just weren't sailing well. Most A class cats could catch me unless they were sailing badly.
@TomKirkman19 күн бұрын
The Weta is a 20 knot downwind boat, if you know how to sail it. Your 5.2 should be faster upwind if sailed well.
@sail4life9 күн бұрын
It could easily have been upwind when I caught them. @@TomKirkman1 Downwind I never did much over 15 knots solo on the 5.2, it just felt so put of control.
@timngraceosullivan95414 күн бұрын
You're a genius, but one question. How do you keep the motor from kicking up in reverse.
@TomKirkman113 күн бұрын
I have a line that can be cleated to prevent that, but rarely use it.
@timngraceosullivan95413 күн бұрын
@@TomKirkman1 Thanks!
@ThomasShue15 күн бұрын
Great partial information! Why not show the actual mount?
@Manuel_Z_Kayaks21 күн бұрын
THAT WAS EXCITING TO WATCH!! 👍
@afbigfish127 күн бұрын
So 10 years later are you still happy with the double AKA brace setup? Or have you found a better method?
@mikeliban573Ай бұрын
Awesome !!! How far you have the motor lowered and How is it in reverse ? ( not that one needs that a lot, but ..?)
@TomKirkman1Ай бұрын
You need to set your motor depth so that the prop won't cavitate in use. I try to keep the prop tips about 3 to 4 inches below water level.
@mastpgАй бұрын
If you had a 200lbs buddy to stand on the winward ama, that boat would scream in 30knots.
@TomKirkman1Ай бұрын
We did that once - with a guy that weighed 235. We rolled.
@bobbybass1944Ай бұрын
Hey Tom , This is a great idea . My only question is, how do you secure the pipe ?? My trailer is similar to yours .
@bravelyHomoSapien2 ай бұрын
So close to a good design. The amas are too small for the power the rig generates
@TomKirkman1Ай бұрын
It IS a good design. They didn't want it to fly the center hull. But it's still a 20-knot boat.
@chrisbrocknc2 ай бұрын
I took your advice and I think I've got my rudder and tiller problem sorted out. Thanks! What seat is this in your TI?
@TomKirkman12 ай бұрын
This is my AI and that's the standard fabric on frame seat they all came with from 2015 on.
@chrisjackson25162 ай бұрын
Any record of how fast you were going?
@TomKirkman12 ай бұрын
The Weta will only do about 14 to 15 knots upwind. And that would be under ideal conditions. Downwind it'll do 21 to 22 knots in ideal conditions and IF you know how to sail a spinnaker. I would guess in this video I was likely doing 13 to maybe 14 knots upwind and maybe 18 or 19 downwind, at the most.
@SergiuCosminViorelАй бұрын
@@TomKirkman1 the sea around here has very slow winds, say 4-5 knots. i have no experience at all, so please tell what speed can you get upwind and downwind, when wind has 5 knots
@TomKirkman1Ай бұрын
@@SergiuCosminViorel The Weta is not good at all in any single digit winds. You will not like it unless the wind pipes up to at least double digits. At 14 knots, it lights up! Until then it's a pig.
@leepeterson87632 ай бұрын
Looks like a blast, Tom. Do you ever sail the Weta with crew? I think your hiking stick setup is excellent. Thanks for sharing your sail. Lee
@TomKirkman12 ай бұрын
I have sailed the Weta two-up but I don't find it a good two-up vessel. Unless the wind is really honking that second person just kills the performance. My twin tiller system is something I put together back in 2012. I like it better than the recent factory version as mine isn't prone to hanging up on the screecher blocks - talk about some real excitement in stiff winds!
@chrisbrocknc2 ай бұрын
Great meeting you today. I'm going to start working on my TI this week. Hope to run into you at Jordan Lake again soon.
@TomKirkman12 ай бұрын
Some of what you see in this video isn't necessary unless you sail in very heavy air.
@warrendarress69012 ай бұрын
Maybe tape sandpaper to stern instead of paint can?
@TomKirkman12 ай бұрын
The paint can allows for a longer sanding stroke. But you can use the stern if you like.
@neilsaunders91923 ай бұрын
Sending it!
@user-qr7qv1pd1l3 ай бұрын
Hi I would like to know what is inside the pipe and what size of pipe you used? Thanks
@nuclearpenguin30463 ай бұрын
As with nearly every other weta video on youtube the best way to make a weta go fast is just speed up the playback speed on your videos. 2x!!!!!!!
@Happ4654 ай бұрын
At the US Multihull Championship in Wetas 5d was the mast rake most of us used. We actually used a protractor to get the exact rake.
@pascalblotiau5 ай бұрын
It seems like you got to sail different trimarans, any preferences? Great videos! I love multi hulls
@TomKirkman14 ай бұрын
For all out speed - Trifoiler. For power and speed - Astus 16.5, For quick assembly and fun - Weta, for exploration and fishing - Hobie Tandem Island, for travel in any conditions - Windrider 17.
@stevec9795 ай бұрын
Thank you Tom. I’ve been trying to decide between side mount and rear mount. Too many options from all the videos of “the best way to mount”. This is the epitome of KIS.
@Manuel_Z_Kayaks6 ай бұрын
Speaking of trampolines... Have you ever made DIY trampolines? I do a L O T of mods with PVC, HDPE,ABS, CUTTING BOARD etc. to the point I've made complete rudder systems. Tool caddy's missing parts... Today I was designing and experimenting with plastic barrels making my own DIY AI cradles. They're coming out pretty good! Back to the tramps... I bought some heavy duty mesh tarps today 3.5 x 15 ft and 3.5 x 30+ ft, grommets along the long sides only. I don't really plan on getting on them aside from reaching or placing stuff on them. Just curious what you think of this or if you've tried it. Thanks and I'll subscribe!
@chrismaroud84846 ай бұрын
Hi @TomKirkman1, in your opinion, what would be the best compromise between fun (wet&wild) and cruise (kids aboard)? Windrider, weta or astus 16.5? And the ultimate fun machine, weta or astus? Looking forward to hearing your thoughts!
@TomKirkman16 ай бұрын
The Astus is a very powerful machine. The Weta is a lot of fun but I consider it a one person boat. If you want to take kids and/or another adult in a craft that is easy to rig and sail, and hard to get into trouble with, get a Windrider 17 and go have fun. It sails nicely and they offer a spinnaker for it as well.
@chrismaroud84846 ай бұрын
Thanks @TomKirkman1! My marina is down a channel that's upwind 95% of the time, and I keep hearing these horror stories about windrider 17 tack angles. Perhaps you could shed some light on this? Thanks again! 🙏
@ronstoys0006 ай бұрын
Hi I have seen some images of the gennaker blocks being moved forward along the outside edge of the tramp Does this hinder performance.This system will keep the tiller arms clear of the gennaker sheets??
@TomKirkman16 ай бұрын
If you move the spinnaker blocks forward you cannot sheet the sail to the sheeting angle it was designed for. Forget about going fast with the blocks up front. Impossible. You may go deeper but you won't go fast.
@ronstoys0006 ай бұрын
sorry Thought it was on the Weta Got 16knots first time with the screecher
@ronstoys0006 ай бұрын
Hi Tom How do you like the 6.1 mainsheet system
@TomKirkman16 ай бұрын
I have configured for 4:1. It requires more effort to sheet in heavy air but quickens the reaction which I find important in gusty conditions.
@stupedcraig6 ай бұрын
Looking into getting a smaller boat for my small family. Which one do you think would be more family friendly? 3-4 people onboard.
@TomKirkman16 ай бұрын
The T2 will carry a much larger payload than the Weta.
@stupedcraig6 ай бұрын
@@TomKirkman1 Thanks!
@jeremy0008 ай бұрын
Great work on the tacks. Does the trailing tiller arm create issues with steering particularly if it gets rough and it bangs around?
@TomKirkman18 ай бұрын
No. It never gets in the way and never causes any problems. Just makes a little noise now and then but I only hear it when I play the videos back.
@pluton24239 ай бұрын
Hello Tom , i have a question for you . .if the speed on the wind is about 10 a 15 km / hour wich is more fast the astus 16.5 or the weta 4.4? and if the speed wind is 15 - 20 km /hour ? wich will be the average speed in each trimaran? thansks
@TomKirkman19 ай бұрын
The Astus 16.5 is faster than the Weta in any and all wind speeds. No contest.
@eprohoda9 ай бұрын
Bonjour! pro . ;)
@mpcguy9 ай бұрын
Speed?
@TomKirkman19 ай бұрын
No idea. Didn't have the puck with me. Water was kind of rough but I could surf a bit downwind. I'd guess 17 knots or thereabouts.
@mpcguy9 ай бұрын
@@TomKirkman1 looked about like that.
@leepeterson876310 ай бұрын
Fun video Tom. I enjoy seeing the various tris sailing fast. The bow sprit cam gives a great perspective. Thanks for putting this together.
@sailinmon10 ай бұрын
Tom, how are you attaching the main sheet traveler line to the inside of the tanks?
@TomKirkman110 ай бұрын
There is no traveler line on a Weta.
@sailinmon10 ай бұрын
Are those bungees that attach to the mainsheet bridle and the tiller extension?
@TomKirkman110 ай бұрын
There is a bungee that runs across just to keep the mainsheet block from falling to the deck when there is no tension on it.
@darrenjones368110 ай бұрын
Tom great content I’ve been following since the Hobie island videos, The weta although rare in the uk and expensive really appeals but I’d curious about swell and chop in the ocean and capsize / pitch poling even as I’ve seen several catamaran accidents, would aka / outer hull possibly dig right in and cause one?
@TomKirkman110 ай бұрын
If you're going fast the boat runs level. But sure, you can pitchpole any trimaran. Just keep your speed up.
@trebel11 ай бұрын
Thank you kindly. Cheers m8.
@trebel11 ай бұрын
Thank you kindly. Cheers m8.
@trebel11 ай бұрын
Thank you kindly. Cheers m8.
@trebel11 ай бұрын
Thank you kindly. Cheers m8.
@trebel11 ай бұрын
Thank you kindly. Cheers m8.
@trebel11 ай бұрын
Thank you kindly. Cheers m8.
@Art-bk6pg11 ай бұрын
Will this work on a Hovie PA 17T?
@BenandHolly201611 ай бұрын
This was great and informative
@dandafjord2706 Жыл бұрын
Bought a Companion at a yard sale for $40.! Yay great condition
@BassManStrikes Жыл бұрын
If you could make it a snap in with a pin and keep the motor shaft longer you could lift it with a cord from the seat.
@jeckoafuego4326 Жыл бұрын
Does anybody know how he got PVC around kayak back handle
@TomKirkman1 Жыл бұрын
Take the handle off, drill out the rivets and disassemble the handle parts.
@rickhall61719 ай бұрын
Take out the 2 Allen screws holding the handle to the kayak, and drill out one of the rivets that hold the end pieces to the round handle. Slide the pvc t’s onto the handle, join the the two with a short piece of pipe, adjusting for width and angle, glue, paint, and reassemble minus the one rivet. I’m doin mine now, and the previous owner had already removed one of the rivet’s on mine but you can’t even tell it… I hope this helps, I know I’m not very articulate lol
@jeckoafuego4326 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video. You're right someone will knock that off. One question? How you get the PVC pipe around the back handle of kayak???
@RussW. Жыл бұрын
Well done sir, well done.
@pbpx Жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing with crew. I take my dad out often on the Weta and we always have a blast.
@tonyallen1953 Жыл бұрын
Just come across your video Tom.This is amazing so simple and cheap to do how did you seal the cables coming out shaft.
@TomKirkman1 Жыл бұрын
Get a piece of foam and punch a short section (round) that you can push down in the shaft past the wire (the wires will extend along the inside of the shaft and the foam will compress to allow that. Then, pour some GOOP into the shaft that will seal the top of the foam. the foam will keep the GOOP from traveling any further down and into the motor area. Now drill a small hole in the shaft just above the sealed foam plub and bring the wires out of the hole and connect to your electrical fitting. You can seal the hole as well for added insurance against water intrusion.
@tonyallen1953 Жыл бұрын
@@TomKirkman1 Thanks Tom
@DNYS8N Жыл бұрын
No idea how to install an easy mount for trolling motor on a hobos adventure island, tried looked still can’t find
@TomKirkman1 Жыл бұрын
Just look under my video channel. Go back a few years because I made these about 10 or more years ago.
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Excellent blind glassing job indeed!
I destroyed a local Weta on my Nacra 5.2 with spinnaker. I guess they just weren't sailing well. Most A class cats could catch me unless they were sailing badly.
The Weta is a 20 knot downwind boat, if you know how to sail it. Your 5.2 should be faster upwind if sailed well.
It could easily have been upwind when I caught them. @@TomKirkman1 Downwind I never did much over 15 knots solo on the 5.2, it just felt so put of control.
You're a genius, but one question. How do you keep the motor from kicking up in reverse.
I have a line that can be cleated to prevent that, but rarely use it.
@@TomKirkman1 Thanks!
Great partial information! Why not show the actual mount?
THAT WAS EXCITING TO WATCH!! 👍
So 10 years later are you still happy with the double AKA brace setup? Or have you found a better method?
Awesome !!! How far you have the motor lowered and How is it in reverse ? ( not that one needs that a lot, but ..?)
You need to set your motor depth so that the prop won't cavitate in use. I try to keep the prop tips about 3 to 4 inches below water level.
If you had a 200lbs buddy to stand on the winward ama, that boat would scream in 30knots.
We did that once - with a guy that weighed 235. We rolled.
Hey Tom , This is a great idea . My only question is, how do you secure the pipe ?? My trailer is similar to yours .
So close to a good design. The amas are too small for the power the rig generates
It IS a good design. They didn't want it to fly the center hull. But it's still a 20-knot boat.
I took your advice and I think I've got my rudder and tiller problem sorted out. Thanks! What seat is this in your TI?
This is my AI and that's the standard fabric on frame seat they all came with from 2015 on.
Any record of how fast you were going?
The Weta will only do about 14 to 15 knots upwind. And that would be under ideal conditions. Downwind it'll do 21 to 22 knots in ideal conditions and IF you know how to sail a spinnaker. I would guess in this video I was likely doing 13 to maybe 14 knots upwind and maybe 18 or 19 downwind, at the most.
@@TomKirkman1 the sea around here has very slow winds, say 4-5 knots. i have no experience at all, so please tell what speed can you get upwind and downwind, when wind has 5 knots
@@SergiuCosminViorel The Weta is not good at all in any single digit winds. You will not like it unless the wind pipes up to at least double digits. At 14 knots, it lights up! Until then it's a pig.
Looks like a blast, Tom. Do you ever sail the Weta with crew? I think your hiking stick setup is excellent. Thanks for sharing your sail. Lee
I have sailed the Weta two-up but I don't find it a good two-up vessel. Unless the wind is really honking that second person just kills the performance. My twin tiller system is something I put together back in 2012. I like it better than the recent factory version as mine isn't prone to hanging up on the screecher blocks - talk about some real excitement in stiff winds!
Great meeting you today. I'm going to start working on my TI this week. Hope to run into you at Jordan Lake again soon.
Some of what you see in this video isn't necessary unless you sail in very heavy air.
Maybe tape sandpaper to stern instead of paint can?
The paint can allows for a longer sanding stroke. But you can use the stern if you like.
Sending it!
Hi I would like to know what is inside the pipe and what size of pipe you used? Thanks
As with nearly every other weta video on youtube the best way to make a weta go fast is just speed up the playback speed on your videos. 2x!!!!!!!
At the US Multihull Championship in Wetas 5d was the mast rake most of us used. We actually used a protractor to get the exact rake.
It seems like you got to sail different trimarans, any preferences? Great videos! I love multi hulls
For all out speed - Trifoiler. For power and speed - Astus 16.5, For quick assembly and fun - Weta, for exploration and fishing - Hobie Tandem Island, for travel in any conditions - Windrider 17.
Thank you Tom. I’ve been trying to decide between side mount and rear mount. Too many options from all the videos of “the best way to mount”. This is the epitome of KIS.
Speaking of trampolines... Have you ever made DIY trampolines? I do a L O T of mods with PVC, HDPE,ABS, CUTTING BOARD etc. to the point I've made complete rudder systems. Tool caddy's missing parts... Today I was designing and experimenting with plastic barrels making my own DIY AI cradles. They're coming out pretty good! Back to the tramps... I bought some heavy duty mesh tarps today 3.5 x 15 ft and 3.5 x 30+ ft, grommets along the long sides only. I don't really plan on getting on them aside from reaching or placing stuff on them. Just curious what you think of this or if you've tried it. Thanks and I'll subscribe!
Hi @TomKirkman1, in your opinion, what would be the best compromise between fun (wet&wild) and cruise (kids aboard)? Windrider, weta or astus 16.5? And the ultimate fun machine, weta or astus? Looking forward to hearing your thoughts!
The Astus is a very powerful machine. The Weta is a lot of fun but I consider it a one person boat. If you want to take kids and/or another adult in a craft that is easy to rig and sail, and hard to get into trouble with, get a Windrider 17 and go have fun. It sails nicely and they offer a spinnaker for it as well.
Thanks @TomKirkman1! My marina is down a channel that's upwind 95% of the time, and I keep hearing these horror stories about windrider 17 tack angles. Perhaps you could shed some light on this? Thanks again! 🙏
Hi I have seen some images of the gennaker blocks being moved forward along the outside edge of the tramp Does this hinder performance.This system will keep the tiller arms clear of the gennaker sheets??
If you move the spinnaker blocks forward you cannot sheet the sail to the sheeting angle it was designed for. Forget about going fast with the blocks up front. Impossible. You may go deeper but you won't go fast.
sorry Thought it was on the Weta Got 16knots first time with the screecher
Hi Tom How do you like the 6.1 mainsheet system
I have configured for 4:1. It requires more effort to sheet in heavy air but quickens the reaction which I find important in gusty conditions.
Looking into getting a smaller boat for my small family. Which one do you think would be more family friendly? 3-4 people onboard.
The T2 will carry a much larger payload than the Weta.
@@TomKirkman1 Thanks!
Great work on the tacks. Does the trailing tiller arm create issues with steering particularly if it gets rough and it bangs around?
No. It never gets in the way and never causes any problems. Just makes a little noise now and then but I only hear it when I play the videos back.
Hello Tom , i have a question for you . .if the speed on the wind is about 10 a 15 km / hour wich is more fast the astus 16.5 or the weta 4.4? and if the speed wind is 15 - 20 km /hour ? wich will be the average speed in each trimaran? thansks
The Astus 16.5 is faster than the Weta in any and all wind speeds. No contest.
Bonjour! pro . ;)
Speed?
No idea. Didn't have the puck with me. Water was kind of rough but I could surf a bit downwind. I'd guess 17 knots or thereabouts.
@@TomKirkman1 looked about like that.
Fun video Tom. I enjoy seeing the various tris sailing fast. The bow sprit cam gives a great perspective. Thanks for putting this together.
Tom, how are you attaching the main sheet traveler line to the inside of the tanks?
There is no traveler line on a Weta.
Are those bungees that attach to the mainsheet bridle and the tiller extension?
There is a bungee that runs across just to keep the mainsheet block from falling to the deck when there is no tension on it.
Tom great content I’ve been following since the Hobie island videos, The weta although rare in the uk and expensive really appeals but I’d curious about swell and chop in the ocean and capsize / pitch poling even as I’ve seen several catamaran accidents, would aka / outer hull possibly dig right in and cause one?
If you're going fast the boat runs level. But sure, you can pitchpole any trimaran. Just keep your speed up.
Thank you kindly. Cheers m8.
Thank you kindly. Cheers m8.
Thank you kindly. Cheers m8.
Thank you kindly. Cheers m8.
Thank you kindly. Cheers m8.
Thank you kindly. Cheers m8.
Will this work on a Hovie PA 17T?
This was great and informative
Bought a Companion at a yard sale for $40.! Yay great condition
If you could make it a snap in with a pin and keep the motor shaft longer you could lift it with a cord from the seat.
Does anybody know how he got PVC around kayak back handle
Take the handle off, drill out the rivets and disassemble the handle parts.
Take out the 2 Allen screws holding the handle to the kayak, and drill out one of the rivets that hold the end pieces to the round handle. Slide the pvc t’s onto the handle, join the the two with a short piece of pipe, adjusting for width and angle, glue, paint, and reassemble minus the one rivet. I’m doin mine now, and the previous owner had already removed one of the rivet’s on mine but you can’t even tell it… I hope this helps, I know I’m not very articulate lol
Amazing video. You're right someone will knock that off. One question? How you get the PVC pipe around the back handle of kayak???
Well done sir, well done.
Thanks for showing with crew. I take my dad out often on the Weta and we always have a blast.
Just come across your video Tom.This is amazing so simple and cheap to do how did you seal the cables coming out shaft.
Get a piece of foam and punch a short section (round) that you can push down in the shaft past the wire (the wires will extend along the inside of the shaft and the foam will compress to allow that. Then, pour some GOOP into the shaft that will seal the top of the foam. the foam will keep the GOOP from traveling any further down and into the motor area. Now drill a small hole in the shaft just above the sealed foam plub and bring the wires out of the hole and connect to your electrical fitting. You can seal the hole as well for added insurance against water intrusion.
@@TomKirkman1 Thanks Tom
No idea how to install an easy mount for trolling motor on a hobos adventure island, tried looked still can’t find
Just look under my video channel. Go back a few years because I made these about 10 or more years ago.