You went through all that work. Got a clutch for it and had a much more reliable engine then stock just to return it..
@GrahamsGarage1233 күн бұрын
Yeah it’s a regret but I learned from it. Engine had some stock issues I never said in vid.
@coltwinchester61247 күн бұрын
This type of drive system is crap.
@GrahamsGarage1235 күн бұрын
I agree. It is good ingenuity though.
@VoodooBrown18 күн бұрын
Is it a stock predator 212 with the stock gas tank? Im about to do this myself and want to be sure the stock gas tank fits
@GrahamsGarage12315 күн бұрын
It sure is a stock predator with stock gas tank. You are going to need a riser plate though. You may need to get some extra hardware from the hardware store because the stock riser plates are built well with cheap fasteners. You will want to use lock nuts and longer bolts.
@REVNUMANEWBERN26 күн бұрын
You did a great production as far as the quality & closeups, is that your personal mower of a family members? I worked at the Snapper factory from 1972 till it was closed in Georgia, do you mind if I go through this clip minute by minute and give further correction & details??? I find that the Snapper rear engine rider has developed many myths by folks that really don't know about them.
@GrahamsGarage12322 күн бұрын
Thank you for offering but I have sold that mower and moved on to a 42in deck mower. Thanks!
@chaqz407627 күн бұрын
stock clutch knocking as accelerating fs safe with stock clutch 👍👍👍👍
@booimandi8808Ай бұрын
My husband and I just got into mini bikes and youve helped him so much with getting this done on his bike. Everytime we had a question we kept coming back. We just wanted to thank you!!
@GrahamsGarage123Ай бұрын
You're so welcome! Im glad that you found it helpful. God Bless
@yakkintyler7293Ай бұрын
Great video good info 👍
@williamsantiago73032 ай бұрын
Great video and very informative buddy. Keep up the great work and ride safe. 👍
@GrahamsGarage123Ай бұрын
Thanks Man!
@Deucealive752 ай бұрын
How old is the mower? I thought Snapper quit making those. I just scrapped my old Snapper Comet 26 that was built in the late 60's.
@GrahamsGarage1232 ай бұрын
It’s only maybe 5 years old
@Deucealive752 ай бұрын
@@GrahamsGarage123 Nice. Good job keeping it going. They're very good mowers.
@SecondSunofficial2 ай бұрын
for those fine thread bolts, what length were they?
@frontlinemedia42702 ай бұрын
Here's a tip to everyone. STOP OVER TIGHTENING YOUR PLUG, BOLTS ETC
@GrahamsGarage1232 ай бұрын
Also don’t cross thread 😂
@Steves_small_engine_services2 ай бұрын
Wow that vid really helped me. just what i need thanks for the helpful tips!
@fish_R_stinky692 ай бұрын
Add a juggernaut and do an engine build.
@GrahamsGarage1232 ай бұрын
I may take of torque converter and restart build I’m not sure yet
@fish_R_stinky692 ай бұрын
2:05 Torque converters limit the speed to 35 MPH.
@bluescluez335416 күн бұрын
gotta love spreading random false knowledge
@fish_R_stinky692 ай бұрын
1:38 I would've used the money to upgrade the clone engine.
@fish_R_stinky692 ай бұрын
Are you gonna do any internal mods soon?
@fish_R_stinky692 ай бұрын
Dawg, I'd put a stage 2 or stage 3 and keep the jackshaft.
@fish_R_stinky692 ай бұрын
There goes the acceleration😭😭
@Bigfisher3402 ай бұрын
How many links is your chain?
@lukewenstrup136715 күн бұрын
how much feet ??
@user-ni7tg5fg9k2 ай бұрын
Maybe when you tighten it back up, make those bolts much tighter.They seem awfully loose.Maybe they'll make it grip better
@GrahamsGarage1232 ай бұрын
Doesn’t really matter I’ve heard. You want to make sure they are snug for sure but I’ve never had any fall out
@user-ni7tg5fg9k2 ай бұрын
I see the sticker. It only can pull 20 pounds.😢
@GrahamsGarage1232 ай бұрын
😂😂that’s the recommendation, doesn’t stop me!😂
@user-ni7tg5fg9k2 ай бұрын
@@GrahamsGarage123 id tried That once to an older model and it ground up all the gears. closest to the top of the gearbox next to the rubber drive wheel on inside It didn't cost too much to fix. Mine had a Chrome steering wheel and the brigs and Stratton. 8 horsepower industrial commercial motor Flathead. I think it wasn't 80 snapper cometThe wheels were round and had diamond pattern on them
@GrahamsGarage1232 ай бұрын
@useri see what you mean
@tymz-r-achangin2 ай бұрын
Good job. Nicely presented. Easily got my thumbs up
@GrahamsGarage1232 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@Bdbrad712 ай бұрын
Great video
@GrahamsGarage1232 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@W3DoStuff3 ай бұрын
the thumbnail 😭😭
@miguelpagansr61283 ай бұрын
You're better off going with a tillotson 212 which has 10 horsepower out of the box. And for a better upgrade, go with a torque converter.
@troyholland34363 ай бұрын
Does this wear down the motor more with this set up?
@GrahamsGarage1233 ай бұрын
It shouldn’t
@kalinder61354 ай бұрын
Good job Graham, excellent video!
@GrahamsGarage1233 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@vedadlejlic-op8wy4 ай бұрын
Hey, Bud. I did the same thing. Have one small issue. Why does the engine rattle so much as you pick up speed? Would anyone know I tighten all 4 bolts real real good, so it's not that.
@MinibikeJuan4 ай бұрын
Might be your wheels but it will vibrate no matter what
@hansb334028 күн бұрын
It's the clutch chattering and slipping till it gets enough speed
@AZ_striperider4 ай бұрын
How many link you use
@billyschannel9975 ай бұрын
You can keep the jack shaft on just pull off the rear sprocket. That way you’ll still have the chain tensioner
@Raidennnn4203 ай бұрын
But you gotta do some cutting
@618Hellbilly5 ай бұрын
I think i just bought the same tc also for the same bike i put a 224 through i haven't even started it yet. Almost done. Im an old man and i would advise you to invest in a small bottle of blue lock tight. Youll love it, stay away from red though till youre 10 or 15 years older. Red wants to brake everything unless you take fire to it.
@mango_juul_pod83244 ай бұрын
Did you get it installed yet and how’s it working?
@bluephantom86845 ай бұрын
Did you drill new holes for the motor?
@SaidazimPROfootballer5 ай бұрын
What is the one chain called that you have right now
@shane_anastasia4705 ай бұрын
I have that same lift plate thing and my sprockets don’t line up. any advice?
@user-vw9rz9wz9p6 ай бұрын
What size clutch did you have to buy
@chasedollars16435 ай бұрын
He got a 3/4
@dethengine7 ай бұрын
Since you had to remove part of the chain anyway, why didn't you just make it shorter?
@GrahamsGarage1237 ай бұрын
I'm a little confused because I did make it shorter and break the chain after removing it.
@dethengine7 ай бұрын
@@GrahamsGarage123 I’m just thinking that if you made it even shorter, you might not have to move the engine so far forward.
@GrahamsGarage1237 ай бұрын
@@dethengine I see. Mistake but it is alright.
@damianskretta71037 ай бұрын
Dope build
@fish_R_stinky692 ай бұрын
It's not built yet.
@itsnotaneon83447 ай бұрын
Is there a way to do this and also have torque?
@GrahamsGarage1237 ай бұрын
you would have to get a sprocket with more teeth on the back.
@user-qy9hw6fe2g7 ай бұрын
Wait don't u need a chain tensioner like the roller
@GrahamsGarage1236 ай бұрын
Optional but would recommend roller
@NubsWithGuns7 ай бұрын
the charging coil off of your 196 should fit. I was going to do mine like that but never got to it.
@ronaldpatton56688 ай бұрын
As if this hasn’t been done before.
@GrahamsGarage1236 ай бұрын
Haha
@Deucealive758 ай бұрын
Just think, if you would have chose a different engine than those Predator 212's you could have used the headlight parts from the original 196 engine. The 224 would have been a better choice and the headlight parts from the 196 fit.
@NubsWithGuns6 ай бұрын
You are either confused or trying to sell him a 224. A gx200 clone charging coil fits a predator 212.
@Deucealive756 ай бұрын
@@NubsWithGuns Not confused at all. The coils will bolt on to any small block. But the 196 flywheel to make them work will not fit his engine. The 196 flywheel will fit ANY other small block but not the two Predator 212's. I would never buy any of those two turds when there are so many better engine options. I would get a generic 208 before getting a Predator 212. Some guys have used a clone flywheel on the non hemi Predator 212, but it's not a correct fit. I just feel bad for some of the guys wanting to upgrade to a different engine. Like a guy who bought a $100 flywheel for his Predator hemi and can't use it on any other engine. Or a guy with a $100 cam in his non hemi Predator who can't use it in any other engine. The 224 was just an example. All of my expensive 196 parts, flywheel, cam, and rod fit in a 224, with clearancing for the 58mm stroke crankshaft.
@jonasorozcocortes76058 ай бұрын
What chain are you using? Can you tell me size and specs about the chain?
@Deucealive758 ай бұрын
The Coleman 200's come with a 420 chain. You can also use a 41 or the big fat 40 chain. A 40 chain on a minibike is overkill. I use 420's on my Colemans.
@TecumsehRulesbcserk8 ай бұрын
Since when does Powersmart have LCT engines on them? They’ve really been all over with the engines on their machines. At first they were using their own branded engine which was just a rebranded Loncin, then they started putting Briggs and Strattons on them, and now they seem to have made a deal with LCT.
@GrahamsGarage1238 ай бұрын
🤷♂️ my first Powersmart snowblower. I’m used to Craftsman.
@davidjessee77019 ай бұрын
Did you move the throttle stop on the carb to get wide open throttle? Did you zip tie the governor arm to keep it from holding back the throttle?? If you still have the governor still intact then it will never go faster than the stick motor
@GrahamsGarage1239 ай бұрын
I unscrewed the throttle stop I’m pretty sure and I zip tied the governors spring. I was also looking at power over speed. I ended up getting torque converter.
@LIFTLEGIONCOM9 ай бұрын
What size chain is that??
@GrahamsGarage1239 ай бұрын
#420
@lukewenstrup136715 күн бұрын
5’ ????
@jeremykinsey78779 ай бұрын
There are tension adjustments on back tire
@Brent64379 ай бұрын
When I was in 4 th grade I had a mini cycle. The engine blew up. So my dad put a 25 Hp snowmobile engine in it. It had a snowmobile clutch with the mini cycle torque converter. Let me tell you it was fast. 0-80 now. If I had a bigger torque converter it would have easily went over 100. Not kidding. The bigger they are the quicker and faster they go. In a snowmobile the engine would go 60 mph. But the mini cycle didn’t weigh anything. My clutch was 3Xs bigger than the one on yours.
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You went through all that work. Got a clutch for it and had a much more reliable engine then stock just to return it..
Yeah it’s a regret but I learned from it. Engine had some stock issues I never said in vid.
This type of drive system is crap.
I agree. It is good ingenuity though.
Is it a stock predator 212 with the stock gas tank? Im about to do this myself and want to be sure the stock gas tank fits
It sure is a stock predator with stock gas tank. You are going to need a riser plate though. You may need to get some extra hardware from the hardware store because the stock riser plates are built well with cheap fasteners. You will want to use lock nuts and longer bolts.
You did a great production as far as the quality & closeups, is that your personal mower of a family members? I worked at the Snapper factory from 1972 till it was closed in Georgia, do you mind if I go through this clip minute by minute and give further correction & details??? I find that the Snapper rear engine rider has developed many myths by folks that really don't know about them.
Thank you for offering but I have sold that mower and moved on to a 42in deck mower. Thanks!
stock clutch knocking as accelerating fs safe with stock clutch 👍👍👍👍
My husband and I just got into mini bikes and youve helped him so much with getting this done on his bike. Everytime we had a question we kept coming back. We just wanted to thank you!!
You're so welcome! Im glad that you found it helpful. God Bless
Great video good info 👍
Great video and very informative buddy. Keep up the great work and ride safe. 👍
Thanks Man!
How old is the mower? I thought Snapper quit making those. I just scrapped my old Snapper Comet 26 that was built in the late 60's.
It’s only maybe 5 years old
@@GrahamsGarage123 Nice. Good job keeping it going. They're very good mowers.
for those fine thread bolts, what length were they?
Here's a tip to everyone. STOP OVER TIGHTENING YOUR PLUG, BOLTS ETC
Also don’t cross thread 😂
Wow that vid really helped me. just what i need thanks for the helpful tips!
Add a juggernaut and do an engine build.
I may take of torque converter and restart build I’m not sure yet
2:05 Torque converters limit the speed to 35 MPH.
gotta love spreading random false knowledge
1:38 I would've used the money to upgrade the clone engine.
Are you gonna do any internal mods soon?
Dawg, I'd put a stage 2 or stage 3 and keep the jackshaft.
There goes the acceleration😭😭
How many links is your chain?
how much feet ??
Maybe when you tighten it back up, make those bolts much tighter.They seem awfully loose.Maybe they'll make it grip better
Doesn’t really matter I’ve heard. You want to make sure they are snug for sure but I’ve never had any fall out
I see the sticker. It only can pull 20 pounds.😢
😂😂that’s the recommendation, doesn’t stop me!😂
@@GrahamsGarage123 id tried That once to an older model and it ground up all the gears. closest to the top of the gearbox next to the rubber drive wheel on inside It didn't cost too much to fix. Mine had a Chrome steering wheel and the brigs and Stratton. 8 horsepower industrial commercial motor Flathead. I think it wasn't 80 snapper cometThe wheels were round and had diamond pattern on them
@useri see what you mean
Good job. Nicely presented. Easily got my thumbs up
Thanks!
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it!
the thumbnail 😭😭
You're better off going with a tillotson 212 which has 10 horsepower out of the box. And for a better upgrade, go with a torque converter.
Does this wear down the motor more with this set up?
It shouldn’t
Good job Graham, excellent video!
Glad you liked it!
Hey, Bud. I did the same thing. Have one small issue. Why does the engine rattle so much as you pick up speed? Would anyone know I tighten all 4 bolts real real good, so it's not that.
Might be your wheels but it will vibrate no matter what
It's the clutch chattering and slipping till it gets enough speed
How many link you use
You can keep the jack shaft on just pull off the rear sprocket. That way you’ll still have the chain tensioner
But you gotta do some cutting
I think i just bought the same tc also for the same bike i put a 224 through i haven't even started it yet. Almost done. Im an old man and i would advise you to invest in a small bottle of blue lock tight. Youll love it, stay away from red though till youre 10 or 15 years older. Red wants to brake everything unless you take fire to it.
Did you get it installed yet and how’s it working?
Did you drill new holes for the motor?
What is the one chain called that you have right now
I have that same lift plate thing and my sprockets don’t line up. any advice?
What size clutch did you have to buy
He got a 3/4
Since you had to remove part of the chain anyway, why didn't you just make it shorter?
I'm a little confused because I did make it shorter and break the chain after removing it.
@@GrahamsGarage123 I’m just thinking that if you made it even shorter, you might not have to move the engine so far forward.
@@dethengine I see. Mistake but it is alright.
Dope build
It's not built yet.
Is there a way to do this and also have torque?
you would have to get a sprocket with more teeth on the back.
Wait don't u need a chain tensioner like the roller
Optional but would recommend roller
the charging coil off of your 196 should fit. I was going to do mine like that but never got to it.
As if this hasn’t been done before.
Haha
Just think, if you would have chose a different engine than those Predator 212's you could have used the headlight parts from the original 196 engine. The 224 would have been a better choice and the headlight parts from the 196 fit.
You are either confused or trying to sell him a 224. A gx200 clone charging coil fits a predator 212.
@@NubsWithGuns Not confused at all. The coils will bolt on to any small block. But the 196 flywheel to make them work will not fit his engine. The 196 flywheel will fit ANY other small block but not the two Predator 212's. I would never buy any of those two turds when there are so many better engine options. I would get a generic 208 before getting a Predator 212. Some guys have used a clone flywheel on the non hemi Predator 212, but it's not a correct fit. I just feel bad for some of the guys wanting to upgrade to a different engine. Like a guy who bought a $100 flywheel for his Predator hemi and can't use it on any other engine. Or a guy with a $100 cam in his non hemi Predator who can't use it in any other engine. The 224 was just an example. All of my expensive 196 parts, flywheel, cam, and rod fit in a 224, with clearancing for the 58mm stroke crankshaft.
What chain are you using? Can you tell me size and specs about the chain?
The Coleman 200's come with a 420 chain. You can also use a 41 or the big fat 40 chain. A 40 chain on a minibike is overkill. I use 420's on my Colemans.
Since when does Powersmart have LCT engines on them? They’ve really been all over with the engines on their machines. At first they were using their own branded engine which was just a rebranded Loncin, then they started putting Briggs and Strattons on them, and now they seem to have made a deal with LCT.
🤷♂️ my first Powersmart snowblower. I’m used to Craftsman.
Did you move the throttle stop on the carb to get wide open throttle? Did you zip tie the governor arm to keep it from holding back the throttle?? If you still have the governor still intact then it will never go faster than the stick motor
I unscrewed the throttle stop I’m pretty sure and I zip tied the governors spring. I was also looking at power over speed. I ended up getting torque converter.
What size chain is that??
#420
5’ ????
There are tension adjustments on back tire
When I was in 4 th grade I had a mini cycle. The engine blew up. So my dad put a 25 Hp snowmobile engine in it. It had a snowmobile clutch with the mini cycle torque converter. Let me tell you it was fast. 0-80 now. If I had a bigger torque converter it would have easily went over 100. Not kidding. The bigger they are the quicker and faster they go. In a snowmobile the engine would go 60 mph. But the mini cycle didn’t weigh anything. My clutch was 3Xs bigger than the one on yours.
Sweet
awesome
e lil bro u gotta flip ur master link
Your right. I should have noticed that. Thanks