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#1-access,#2-to much activity in the woods before hunting begins,#3-early seasons,as we know,deer are not stupid ,and they start to turn nocturnal after seasons begin,#4 there is a lot of cover for them to hide and access comes in again!
I believe access is the biggest problem. Hunting as a teenager I had a lot of private land to hunt. Now you just can't get permission. I scored a small lease and hunt some public now but there seems to be a lot more bowhunters now on public and that makes it more difficult. Takes the fun out of it sometimes.
I agree in everything you stated except when you stated that bucks are nocturnal. I personally don't believe that. They may not move much during the day but they are moving inside their bedding area...
@Michigandrivenoutdoors yeah, I know. Most people don't hunt the bedding areas and never see them. U gotta be close. Them deer on public know where they can get away moving and it ain't far in daylight in high pressured areas. In my experience
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors I agree, that's why I'm right in there with them 😆
@Michigandrivenoutdoors if u know u know hahaha 😆
BTW. You are the first I heard to address the car insurance lobby problem on youtube.....
@personalprojectile dude, me and my uncles have talked about the car insurance thing for decades lol. It's a very common conversation.Come to your season when we used to hunt up north and not see anything hahaha.
Michigan dnr work for state farm. Change my mind
@@personalprojectile a lot of people think this.
When compared to the .5 and .75, how does this stand feel in terms of the comfort of the size/cushion of the seat? Just as comfortable, not quiet as comfortable, etc? Also, have you done a review of the summit open shot? I couldn't find one. I know it's nowhere near as compact to transport, but it's around the same weight and may be more comfortable once mounted to the tree. Thoughts?
Umm I'd say a .75 with a tall post is probably more comfortable for me. The crossover is comfortable but I didn't all day sit in it yet so I'm not 100% sure how great it is just yet. I will all day sit it this season forsure. I don't own a summit open shot. Sorry
Hey Polak, I agree with you on so many things. I live in Whitmore lake so I’m in your area and there’s such little state land it’s hard to get opportunities on does let alone a buck. I’ve sent letters and door knocked every year and never got a yes, yet everyone is upset with car insurance prices and car accidents on 23 lol. I also and so disappointed the earn a buck or 1 buck was shut down. I kinda hold myself to earn a buck and won’t shoot a buck until I put a doe down. The muzzleloader thing is stupid as well. I’m a bow hunter first and hate sharing the woods w muzzleloaders it’s just unsafe down here. Lastly I’m disappointed in no bait. No one will ever tell me bait spreads…anything. Any woodsman knows deer lick each other constantly. I think hunter numbers drop off dramatically after the bait ban. The average weekend/rifle hunter can’t use bait and doesn’t have time to scout like some of us so they say hell w it. I don’t see anything wrong with a little corn or something but the dnr is so narrow minded is ridiculous. Great video bud! Hoping to put a hand full of does down so to donate to some needy families I know, good luck this fall bud.
Good rant. Access in southeast MI is a problem. I’d like to see the DNR engage the county and local parks in Wayne and Washtenaw, at least for archery. I see banger bucks all the time in my Wayne county suburbia but drive an hour plus to rub elbows with every other public land hunter in southeast MI just to get goasted every weekend.
100,000 % agree!! Id love to get on some deer in Wayne County, there are hammers in Westland and Livonia!! Dnr needs to do more to get us some access!!
I hunt mostly in zone 2 public land. I prefer that for the solitude. I would love to see Michigan go to a 1 buck state but in my opinion, given the rich heritage like you mentioned it would deter a lot of hunters especially the older generation. Not really sure why that is, it's similar to the baiting issue. A lot of old timers just don't know how to hunt without a bait pile and they either will hunt over bait illegally (which happens all over zone 2) or they just won't hunt at all. I would like to see a full lottery system where you don't know what type of tag you draw. You go to buy your license, the DNR and powers that be allocate a specific number or antlered and antlerless tags and you randomly get one of those tags. You could just get a buck tag or you could just get a antlerless tag. Now, you could keep the combo license and still implement that. Many diff variants. I think the problem Michigan has is that it's stuck in the 40s where they want to keep that hunting heritage and tradition alive. They just seem to do it in very odd ways as far as regulations. The UP is a mess now and it's a damn shame. It's a fraction of the hot spot that it used to be. I've been hunting zone 2 for close to 20 years with my dad. Gun season camp every year and we see less and less hunters every single year. I think that is the biggest problem, we need to get our youth involved in the outdoors more and there needs to be a return as far mentality to the traditional values that this great state was founded on. Get outside, scout year round, harvest your deer and share it with your family. I mean, less hunters and more deer is great for me cause I fill my freezer every year. But I want to maintain what hunting means to the state and what it means to the hunters and conservationists that are privileged enough to have the opportunity. Great video sorry for the rant. Good luck this year everyone shoot straight stay safe 👍
I used to hunt up in Galord and Indian river area a lot. I should go back and see how the deer are up there now, I loved the solitude as well, there is just something special about hunting northern Michigan. I worry about your herd up there with them allowing 10 doe tags in certain areas. there are a lot of areas I know that just cant support it and its going to really hurt the herd. Down here we can support 10 doe tags per season no problem. Most guys dont even come close to using that many tags anyway. Down here on public land the people are freaking surging to levels that sometimes are very un-pleasant. Ive seen more hunters in the woods the last 3-5 years than I ever have in my 25-26 years of hunting. I will push my kids to learn to shoot more does to help balance the herd. good luck this season and thanks for watching!!
Is it that it’s the mind set of the older generation or could the problem be also social media ? Or a combination of both ?
Michigan is stuck in the hay days of deer hunting where men trekked into the woods with red flannel and stormy kromers. It's just not that type of hunting anymore. Michigan needs to take note of what others state are doing in order to save the deer population STATE WIDE for years to come
I've been hunting MI since I was 13 in 2000. I was very fortunate to gain access to a beautiful piece of 40 acres in Ionia county in 2019. In the last 5 seasons I have worked hard to do my part and have harvested 16 does and 8 bucks which is certainly higher than the state average of doe:buck harvest ratios. So, I do feel the new doe seasons/lower tag cost is in the right direction to increase doe harvest numbers. But, I don't really agree with the new regulation to limit what new hunters can harvest. I'd like to think when I believe my son is mature enough to harvest a deer for the first time; that he would have the same opportunities that I had when I was first starting out and harvest whatever gets him excited as that's what it's all about. (You said you yourself shot anything you could when you were younger, as did I) I just don't really agree with limiting the opportunity to first-time hunters starting out because of a problem our and previous generations have created. Might as well just lose the youth hunt at this point, since I'd rather him wait and hunt with me in October/November to have more opportunities to harvest what makes him happy; and restricting him into only being happy to shoot does isn't fair, as that wasn't what we were excited about when we were first starting out either. We wanted a chance at ANY deer that got us excited and made us happy.
I’ve long thought we (hunters and the hunting industry) need to come up with some way that makes people excited to hunt does. Like how everyone loves big antlers, something like this for does. If people get excited about shooting does I think the imbalance will balance out pretty quick. We have these same discussions in Ohio too. Not an idiot at all!! You’re spot on for many states in the country IMO. Appreciate you bringing up the subject. More hunters (and non hunters) need to hear it.
Yeah, that would be a tremendous thing to be able to create some excitement somehow, I get excited for Chili and venny tacos!! I think if we can teach the younger generation more about proper management and conservation it should have a lasting impact!
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors yeah buddy! That’s good stuff. Yeah totally agree with teaching the kids the value of conservation and all that. I’m working on mine constantly.
Private lands are playing a big part on the deer herds
@Twitchisatrick lack of access you think? That's what I believe. I know of several big chunks of private land by the public. I hunt that doesn't allow hunting at all.The deer just pile in there.
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors . I believe it's the land owners that doesn't want any hunting done on there property and I'm sure lack of access to. Here in Indiana lack of access and designated parking areas is the problem here I think
I would agree the lack of access deters a lot of hunters especially the older generation. If they want the deer killed in the south then they need to promote hunting accordingly or open up more public lands for the established hunters
Or expand the HAP lands so we can get access on these huge private chunks!!
I'm from Ohio and wouldn't want any more then one buck a person. It just works. If Michigan wants to keep 2 buck tags it needs to at least go to some form of earn a buck. Will save alot of your 2 year Olds for sure.
Its very apparent that its working in many states, it appears as the MI DNR is worried if we go to a 1 buck state we would havest even less deer!!
@MichiganGreatOutdoors Aweosme videos man. And people would have to adapt to the mind frame of killing some does for the freezer and be a bit more picky on their buck. Either way hunting in Michigan is a BLAST and enjoy the trip every year. Already got my tags in the mail for this year lol. Keep the videos coming.
Glad to have you coming up!! Your the second person ever ive heard come to michigan to hunt deer!! HAHAHa lol
@MichiganGreatOutdoors A buddy from my way brought up two years ago for rifle season. Shot a 100" 8pt the first year, he shot a pretty nice 6pt and I been hooked ever since. Nice hunting some different terrain🤟
Most of Michigan current politics are against us owning gun
Do you believe its now bleeding into our hunting heritage?
@MichiganGreatOutdoors yes sir I do I believe we're heading down the path of California.
Jamie tomson mi rep doing a interview tonight on KZread with 2a edu about some new gun control being pushed in Michigan she the repisentive for Taylor monroe
Thanks I will check it out!!
Good information man.
Glad it was helpful!
You named a Big part of it mgo, the other part is revenue. They're trying to cut corners and restrict Buck Harvest through the youth and liberty Hunts rather than give up the revenue from a 2 Buck season state wide, they're also taking advantage of high hunter populous in deer dense urban zones and Cash cowing a new season opportunity. We need to qualify manage the herd not NRC revenue bandaids over Bullet holes.
I wholeheartedly agree on that! Question is whos pockets are getting greased?
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors It's not just that they're greasing pockets, like you said, state wide numbers of Hunters are on the decline, so their revenue stream is drying up, and and pocket lining corruption is steering them into these alternate revenue schemes, and passing the problems down the line. Their regs changes have done nothing accept pass the illusion of more Buck restrictions, and expand on their license revenue in the higher population zones. A one Buck season, nonresident preference point system, and crop damage compensation program with a percentage going to soil mineral enrichment, and quality deer genetics introduction in genetics management units. If you Build a Balanced herd, and set restrictions to grow great Bucks, not 25 to 2 favoring Doe's, everybody Wins, including the pocket lining. Farmers know that Big Buck leases pay better than the crops if the action is there. It's not hard to sell tags in great Buck states. It's hard to put market spin on a crap product.
Yeah, ive got my hands on some interesting information recently that came from some high up people that basically said they are worried about lost income from tag sales if we got to a one buck state. The combo tag basically tricks a lot of people into buying 2 tags that 92% of michigan hunters dont use. So thats a very interesting take. People dont realize if we can get the buck doe ratio down closer to 50/50 and pass on little bucks to harvest does, we are really going to have more excitement in the woods!!Thanks for watching!
THANKS FOR TAKING THE TIME.. GREAT INFORMATIVE VIDEO!!!! BE BLESSED BROTHER !! Looks like my hunting fund is going up More does for me too . But I've always tookin a doe for the freezer every year.. Try to never leave a tag unused...
Absolutely! I truly believe we gotta harvest more does, if we can get that buck doe ratio closer to 50/50 I think its going to tremendously help our hunting experience! Bucks will have to chase and find does again!!
The Wisconsin earn a buck was doe tag only then got the buck tag after shooting doe. We now have state legislation prohibiting earn a buck.
Why did they not continue earn a buck? Was there a specific reason for it?
Lots of backlash from hunters, they did not like the restrictions. Now they offer multiple free extra doe tags, number of tags vary by zone. @@MichiganGreatOutdoors
Always loved the earn a buck regulations. Would work wonders in Michigan especially in zone 2
I’m only halfway through this video, but it would be cool to compare stats with Indiana and Wisconsin also instead of just Ohio.
I agree, I wish I was better at excel or something, Id love to graph it all!! I think if people could see the data, it might really help change some of our thinking.
Assuming the data is REAL AND ACCURATE!!
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors For sure. Would take a while for that! Side note: I tend to not shoot does sometimes, even tho I want to, just bc of the lack of opportunities at mature bucks and not wanting to mess up those chances. I don’t have a house setup to process my own deer and it’s hard to find a place by me to process them right away during early doe season and then in late season I have a hard time in my area getting on deer. It’s tough to answer all the problems. Just blessed to be able to deer hunt tho.
I have the same issue, often times in early season I am pushing the limits into known buck bedding areas on pubic land and you cant shoot a doe without ruining your buck hunt, u just cant on these public lands. These bucks are too dang smart and will just lay back down until well after dark. So I often pass them too and then come rifle season I open it up. By then it seems like u see less and less does so this season im just gonna let it fly man, im not passing unless I know im on a big buck!!
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors 100%
Youth hunt change. I think is good. If the youth was to get a doe i think they would be more prone to want to get a buck and more wanting to hunt. Also the adult wont be able to take a earlie season buck saying it was the youth to cheat and take advantage of the earlie season youth hunt...
Yup! We all know that happens with the dads too... I dont think its a lot of them but im sure its a few!!
LEAVE A COMMENT DOWN BELOW PLEASE, WHAT IS YOUR OPINION???????
In my area (West and Central), many processors went out of business during and after Covid-19. Prices were driven much higher, and it costs over $100 to process each deer. That $5 tag is a lot more expensive.
Lets consider this - According to the American Psychological Association, approximately 40-50% of first marriages end in divorce. The divorce rate for second marriages is even higher, with approximately 60-67% of second marriages ending in divorce. Would be interesting if you compare the divorce rate in those areas. We have less and less kids being raised by men. This is affecting it I am sure. The majority of women I am sure are not even teaching young men how to light a fire.
wow, another thing I haven't considered.... it seems like more women are getting into the sport these days but we need our men to keep our boys engaged!!
Have you considered doing a full review on this one? Thinking about up adding it to the arsenal. Is it worth the extra money over the EDP? How’s the sloped edge and bigger profile? Too big? Just right? Thanks!
@@darrinmiedema4790 it's on the list! Just need time to get to it
I don't mind Youths having to take a doe because what was happening if there was a nice buck adults were taking the deer. The kid wasnt taking the deer the POS adult was taking the deer because they aren't good enough to take a nice buck during regular season. Not only will this make that youth a better hunter but also put responsibility back into the cheaters out there. The only people that are going to be upset by this are the people that were taking advantage of the earlie season youth hunt.
Are you gonna be in kalamazoo tomorrow?! First time ill be at the mobile expo!
@austinogrady8832 yes.
Sounds like a bunch of adults blaming kids for decades of reactionary instead of proactive management.
I think it purifies the purpose of the youth hunt which is to help get young hunters into the sport and get them their first deer. I’ve taken my brother out on many youth hunts and we have passed on a lot of deer because he knows he has a shot at the biggest deer we have on camera.
Always look forward to any and all o your reviews. Great work very well done review. Thank you
I get it and yet I don’t. They are trying to find avenues to force hunters to harvest more does, great. But why not go deeper and do earn a buck, or state wide apr, or something. There were so many other ideas the dmi came up with that the dnr just said no with no data to back their side. No to bait, not to more hap land, no to everything. I think we lost a lot of hunters with the loss of bait, and with the management of hunting in general. Oh well, I’ll still be in the woods lol
I like it.They should have been doing this for years. Also should make doe tags cheaper if they want people to take doe and do earn a buck.But of course, they're gonna bully it up for another decade
I agree, doe tags should be $10
Hunters that hunt to put food in the freezer will still take their kids out. You dont eat the antlers and does taste better. Teach them to hunt for the right reason not just for bragging rights
Yeah, I wholeheartedly agree with this statement. I think its good for parents to encourage this sort of mindset….
But they need more hunters! I don't get it !!
Id be willing to think this could hurt new hunter enrollment, we should be able to see the statistics on these things next year. If they are shared.
That youth hunt season is really called dad shot the buck with his kid next to him season.
Won't be going then
dang.... thats unfortunate.
Great we want hunters not just killers .....
Good, not all hunters not even most but I would be willing to bet there are hunters out there who used the youth hunt to tag a buck for themselves using their kids license.
Do you think it could decrease the youth participation rate now that they can only shoot a doe?
Earn a buck would have been a better choice across all licensee holders if the goal is to even out the sex ratio. Please take a young person hunting…we need more stakeholders on the participating side of deer hunting for our legacy to continue👍
I agree we really need to get more kids involved! - Jayce
Where do you think bucks come from , shooting doe is not the answer, to go deer management.........
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Thanks for sharing this information, really good stuff!!
Yes, I wanted to see the changes DNR was going to make. Very bummed out about it. I just got my 10 year old son hunting last year and got two does. Now he is hoping to get a buck. I guess we need to get it done this year.
Yeah, or he's just going to have to join us in the.Regular season.... at least in 2025
Unfortunate for my daughter, we will not be participating in the youth hunt 2025. We shoot does late season. Nothing to memorable about shooting a doe in September when we fill the freezer in December with does
Yeah, that makes sense... Overall Do you think it could decrease the youth participation rate now that they can only shoot a doe?
@MichiganGreatOutdoors I think first time hunters probably not, but for kids that have participated before it will. As most deer hunters we always push to get a bigger trophy. A doe is a doe, no incentive to hunt the youth hunt for a doe. I can see them just waiting until regular season and skipping the youth hunt.
Good points, I would hope the DNR would share these statistics next year....
Yep, we need to fix the culture of you have to get a buck Or it's not cool or special. That's a u problem every deer I get is exciting I'm hunting meat not horns. I mean, think my dad and all's uncles have never shot a doe in their lives, and we wonder why our numbers are all screwed up
@tmoney8785 we shoot plenty of does but we don't get overly excited to hunt a special doe season. Any hunter that says they get just as excited over a doe over a mature buck is a liar. Does are a dime a dozen.
I think they finally made the change, well over due. The goal is to get a kid involved in hunting, if shooting a doe doesn’t work or does work, the goal is still successful. Plus we have an over abundance of does, so that is the main reason they did it. And to many, hey you should see the buck I killed, I mean my child killed, that is the other reason it was changed from my understanding. No one is preventing them from getting a big buck, they have all regular season.
Do you think it could decrease the youth participation rate now that they can only shoot a doe? Maybe its not as appealing now?
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors Yeah i agree, there is the risk that it will decrease the participation rate. But i go back to, if you aren't excited about shooting your first doe, than maybe we already have an answer. I been hunting a long time and I STILL get excited when i shoot a doe, so that is a hard one for me to process if shooting a doe doesn't get a hunter excited, especially in the beginning of their hunting life.
yeah me too, I get very excited still. I dont get the shaky leg like a big buck but its darn close!!
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors okay, that is very much true, haha.
If your going to be a hunter you have to want to do it , youth hunt made killers not hunters , best move the DNR ever made , I know they have made many.....@@MichiganGreatOutdoors
I thinks it is a fantastic decision. Always thought that a 1st time young hunter shouldn’t shoot a buck so soon in their hunting life -especially when they get to hunt in dads gun blind before the bow and gun season starts. It’s good to work for things and earn it.
Do you think it could decrease the youth participation rate now that they can only shoot a doe?
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors actually I think it will increase participation and make them want to strive for a buck after getting a doe. It’s good to have them want more get better at hunting and scouting too. I think they might be spoiled if they shoot a buck that dad scouted and set em up on too soon.
good point, maybe we need to preach that in our teachings to the kids that this is something to build into over the course of many seasons. I know it would keep me coming back!
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors absolutely! I shot my 1st doe after several seasons on big woods public land. Then a spike, then 4 and 6 points now 8,10 pts. I thoroughly enjoyed the journey and struggle of learning which is then so rewarding. I think it’s good for kids to not always win
Agree 100%
Great review. You got a new subscriber.
Awesome, thank you! Good luck this season!
We need a 1 Buck all season system, with a point restriction. I Hunt for meat in Michigan, Bucks in Wisconsin. The Trail cameras don't lie. MDNR/NRC is greedy, Incompetent, and infused with special interest NGO's
I think that’s what a lot of us really think in the background but why do you believe this happens and have you ever saw any proof of it? Thanks!
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors when HSUS was was pretending to be a local group, Michigan Wolves Protected, I was the U.P. regional director for M.T.P.C.A., and waged a war on them. Got tribal cops called on me, while they used tribal land as sanctuary from free protest, over a Michigan state Ballot initiative, and called the media to sanctuary sites to run media spin un apposed, the DNR wolf management group was infiltrated then, and gas lit them in the media. I propose the defend the Hunt program at the first sportsmans coalition meeting, and MUCC grabbed it and went nuts with it, and cut me out of my own defense plan. How much money did they make collecting donated deer hides for the defend the Hunt program across Michigan? We may never know. I could really go NRC deep state with you guys. That's just the tip of what I been through.
I really care about Michigan Hunting, and Sportsman, and I'll tell everyone, I wouldn't waste my money on Michigan sportsmans groups. If you're paying dues to pocket lining sportsmans alliance blowhards enjoying lancing fine dining and Hotels at your expense. You're not part of making a difference, you're part of special interest that the NRC knows is a legislature & ballot box minority that they can keep sponging money from. The soldered old leaders sitting those seats wouldn't know how to beat a modern animal rights organization if they had millions in budget and voting power. They're getting fat paid getting dressed up for nothing.
I was never the guy the Sportsman groups wanted, I was the guy the Sportsman needed. Turning up where it made a difference in Jill Fritz's face, watching her panic as I'm interviewing with Fox News, and she calls the tribal police. It's on KZread, Wolf signatures needed.
If you as a sportsman association leader know your completely irrelevant in Lancing and at ballot box but you're still collecting dues, poorly regulated raffle proceeds, selling Hunts, and misleading your membership about the depth of your completely ineffective blow hard status, and total lack of ability to fight a modern Animal rights organization, you might be a Michigan association leader. 🤗
Since no one has made a comment that actually point the the content but instead points to the “flaws” in your video I guess I’ll be the first… I think it will help maintain a more healthy balance, also will allow a chance for the bigger bucks that are shot in September to breed before taking them out of the herd
really good points!!
That is DUMB as F$@K!!!!! Way to take opportunity from the youth!!!! Gonna be the downfall of hunting if new laws like this keep happening!!!!!
What can we do to help change it?
@@MichiganGreatOutdoorsI’m not really sure what you do as the state I live in constantly improves youth hunting opportunities. We have special youth only day for Deer, Bear and turkeys. We are a bucks only state (no antler restrictions) so you need to draw a doe tag to shoot a doe but not on youth day. They can shoot whatever shows up. Also our youth days are the weekend before our general open seasons so to give the youths the first shot at the deer before the orange army invades. So if it were me and I always wanna promote youth hunting I’d let them shoot any deer that comes out buck or doe and if your worried about deer populations then give them an extra doe only tag for the youth season. So one tag for either sex one tag doe only. Hell if there is antler restrictions I’d take them off for youth day just to make the youth out in woods able to have full experience. Equate it to fishing are you gonna take a kid to a fly fishing only trout stream for their first fishing trip or are gonna take them to the small mud hole and toss a worm on a bobber and catch 20 warm water fish that hit anything that moves in an hr? You gotta make it fun for kids and limiting their opportunities is counter productive.
Your elected officials that appointed the NRC members are to blame. The NRC is to blame, they set the rules and regulations. Please correct your statement, I like your content but please fix this
Pretty sure they work hand in hand…. They can make recommendations but who’s in charge of enforcing and implementing policy? When you’re a sheep you’re a sheep no matter what seat you hold.
I understand what you're saying, but they're both to blame in my opinion.
Dude the NRC did not the DNR!!!
I get what your saying but The DNR reports to the NRC, the DNR polices and follows the NRC guidelines. The DNR has to follow the NRC guidelines. It is the dnr's job to make the nrc. Understand what we need to do as far as rules and regulations. We all know that the dnr is not doing a good job of this.
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors nrc is appointed by the governor and legislative body. Completely independent of the dnr. I'd love to talk to you about it.
@@tylerritchie6259 shoot me a message on IG or FB.
@tylerritchie6259 I understand they are different but they work together or should work together. I blame both for this.
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@@godscountry4683 thanks I agree!!
I’m not in Michigan, but that sounds Fd up.
@@david.6040 they say it's to remove the stigma around a "buck first mentality:
Yeah I think of it this way. 95% of the kids weren't taking them nice bucks It was the adult cheating and taking advantage of a early season hunt. The purpose of the youth hunt is to get the kid into hunting. To only being able to take a doe it'll give them the incentive to get out there in regular season and get that buck. I don't see this hurting anybody except for the people taking advantage of early season hunting. What is the reason that you would think this was f ed up?? I'm just asking for your insight. I am not criticizing you for your answer. Thanks have a blessed day..