Steel vengeance "SteVe" has lockers you can pay for across from the entry way of the queue. I support the use of upcharge lockers. We go for 12-13 hour days in just about every park we go to. The only thing on me is the unlimited drink wrist band, a locker wristband (depending on the park), and a credit card in a zipped or buttoned pocket. The person I normally go with, we are normally on our phone all day type of people, so going to the park and leaving them locked up for hours is kind of nice to be honest.
@TheCoasterSerpent4 сағат бұрын
I have a better experience when I use the paid lockers rather than the free in line lockers. TT2 made me realize that metal detecting at the entrance to rides was the way to go. My experiences at Great Adventure as well. I just suggested they make them free, adding the cost to tickets and passes to stop the complaining about the attractions being an upcharge.
@GoodEnoughEngineering3 сағат бұрын
@@TheCoasterSerpent if they had a add on to the ticket even i would be okay with that too
@RNC-7-1521 сағат бұрын
Folks. Fast pass doesn’t mean front of line. The line design doesn’t matter It is the number of people in line. Metal detectors take time. I had a metal belt buckle and got the wand. The wand is the issue. Just rode it 6 times last week. Do a take about maverick. That is the worst I have ever experienced plus it breaks every few hours and screws the people waiting
@TheCoasterSerpent4 сағат бұрын
The fast lane join being so far back is a minor annoyance, but all the same it is the furthest back join in the park for really no good reason. The main issue, and the reason for the video is the constant dispatches with empty rows due to metal detection not getting guests through fast enough. Also, the area around metal detection is a nightmare with people trying to go every which way, jostling by to get to and from the lockers. See the diagrams in the video. Maverick has been terrible this year, with even the fast lane getting over a 30 min wait. The capacity is terrible on that ride.
@keithstransitexperiences9749Күн бұрын
SFGAdv in 2016 had a system where employees would check pockets and if you didn't have at least one pocket that is zippered, you were sent to the lockers unless there was nothing in your pockets. There should at least be something like that because not having your phone is bad like what if a friend or family member gets sent to the hospital or an emergency comes up like if I'm out of town and there was an earthquake that damaged my town?
@ferretsp30522 күн бұрын
Until the early 2000s, Tig'rr ran with no restraints at all. Get in. Sit down. Hold on.
@nategoeslive3 күн бұрын
Great video. Thanks
@Bnizzofashizzo3 күн бұрын
do you know where you do NOT HEAR about lose articles? Island's of Adventure and Universal Studios!. Cedar Fair needs to adopt this 1- lockers need to be free and large enough to hold Fannie packs, cell phones and keys for riders. 2- this needs to be enforced by a ride attendant Once people know what to expect with no loose articles, they will abide and honestly, i didn't miss the articles while waiting. Furthermore, the one thing i have always been afraid of losing, my keys, i have never actually had happen but would be horrified to experience. It's all preventable and the park owes it to guests to make this easy and free to do.
@TheCoasterSerpentКүн бұрын
The only issue I see with Universal's system is that it requires plenty of space to implement in queue lockers as well as employees. That is why I suggested just giving the ride attendants at the entrances wands and having them enforce the policy there, like Great Adventure does.
@BnizzofashizzoКүн бұрын
@@TheCoasterSerpent you’ve clearly never been
@TheCoasterSerpentКүн бұрын
@@Bnizzofashizzo Been to Great Adventure twice and Universal 3 times.
@tyler_m_sonic_merch_hunts6106 күн бұрын
Steel Force at Dorney Park has a unique bin system with shelves that coincide with which train you are riding. A shelf for the red train, one for the blue train, and one for the black train, and most of the time Steel Force is two train ops. Once the guests put their belongings on the shelf that coincides with their train, the ride attendants slides the door that is covering the train that is approaching the final brakes, to the train that is about to leave the station. As someone who worked at Six Flags New England last season as a ride operator while I was attending technical school in the area, I can tell you how many times people still lost their phones due to them being so dumb enough to take it out after the train has left the station, thinking that the operators and attendants wouldn't notice. I can stress enough of how the security team must have felt overwhelmed of getting reports from ops saying that guests were taking phones out mid ride or jumping the fences to retrieve lost items. One such case last year at that same park while I was attending as a guest, when I was about to get in line for Wicked Cyclone they had to shut the ride down due to someone jumping the fence to retrieve a season pass card, YES, A SEASON PASS CARD WHILE YOU CAN ALSO HAVE IT ON YOUR PHONE, like, you had to shut the ride down just for a card for your season pass which you can have through your phone.
@Troy-jc2ko6 күн бұрын
I appreciate you making a video like this! I’m visiting in July and I thought the lockers were at the front of the queue! Thanks for informing me about this so that my party can take all loose articles off before the ride so that we can all go straight to the detectors.
@ltlt34777 күн бұрын
Great idea!! It seems that just having signs aren't enough. And not having to pay for a locker each time would [hopefully] deter those who feel inconvenienced from ignoring those rules. Those who are on the rides when these things happen have mental scars forever as well, and someone other than the parties witness to these horrific events need to be made aware of how dangerous this has gotten, and how bold and "safe" people think they are. One vid about this alleged that the man was warned not to go through, entered through an employee door, and was struck. If this is so, ALL DOORS ACCESSING THE RESTRICTED AREAS OF THE RIDE NEED TO BE LOCKED DURING OPERATION.(emphasized only.) Regardless, those employees have to deal with that for the rest of their lives as well. Its a loss for all involved.
@brookeguy77417 күн бұрын
Please help them
@brookeguy77417 күн бұрын
Why would they buy a deadly coaster!!! I think they need to fix this!!! Please tell them!!! File a complaint!!! Safetey
@brookeguy77417 күн бұрын
Send a note to owner
@Spike-sk7ql9 күн бұрын
Yukon Striker has the perfect solution, I hear. I was talking about a moveable bin, that corresponds with the trains. Its there right before you load to put your stuff in just before you board, then it rotates so no one can get to your stuff, and it allows for the next train. Then its on the exit side of the platform when you pull back in so you can grab your stuff. The person said "oh so just like Yukon Striker?" Its perfect. You carry everything up on the platform with you, and you dont ride with anything, knowing that no one will have access to it until your train comes back to the station.
@Shredxcam229 күн бұрын
Fanny pack. Peoblem solved.
@GaijinGamerGirl9 күн бұрын
They do need to change. Small hip/waist bags that attach to your belt and are fine in extreme motorsports on motorcycles and high speeds should be allowed on roller coasters so that we women don't have to remove our belts every ride and risk not being able to ride home if some foreigner steals our bag with our phone and keys in it.
@michaezell46079 күн бұрын
The individual involved in this incident has passed away from his injuries.
@wakcedout10 күн бұрын
ive got an upcoming trip to a local park planned and went to a store recently with my wife to hunt for a fanny pack. when i went to this park as a kid and even the local area zoo i remember we would always get these in the 80s as a safer way to hold our items. and now with the advent of having car keys and cell phones they seem even more important for a day out to an amusement park. and a fanny pack is cheaper and easier to wear than hunting for pants with zipper pockets in husky sizes. and i say this as im at the physical size where i may fit on a decent amount of rides but pants with zippers would be hard to find. personally i think the parks could make a killing selling themed fanny packs right at the front entrance. advertise them as "keep your items safe and have a wearable souvenier." if the park im going to has them i may buy one there as an extra. plus side if they make them water proof.
@jonny-b49549 күн бұрын
I use zippered pockets and have a keychain that I hope onto my belt loop and it holds my CC, pass and ID and key.
@michaezell46079 күн бұрын
Fanny packs are now prohibited on most attractions due to them interfering with the ability of the restraints to be closed properly.
@JJJJ-he8bz10 күн бұрын
No they don’t the guy climbed 2 major fences everyone should not be punished just because of one person
@TheCoasterSerpent10 күн бұрын
Its not just one person. Every single time a person takes their phone out on a ride, it puts everyone behind them at risk. Parks have tried time and time again to warn parkgoers about loose articles. Stupid people don't listen, and staff arn't empowered enough to do anything about it.
@michaezell46079 күн бұрын
Even one death is one too many so yes the policies need to change. People are bringing way too many unnecessary belongings into the park's than in decades past ...items like cellphones for example which we DIDN'T HAVE just three short decades ago or unsecured keys (without a Keychain to securely keep them in place) and a ton of other stuff that should just be stored in one's car while inside the park.
@jasonmurray590210 күн бұрын
I bring a hip pack and an average IQ to every amusement park I visit. I've never lost any items and I remain capitated.
@TheCoasterSerpent10 күн бұрын
All fine and dandy, but how many times have you seen another persons phone fly past you? How many times do you see idiots taking selfies and recording their rides? So far this year, I have seen phones out on Diamondback twice, Maverick, and Iron Gwazi. In the case of Iron Gwazi, the phone flew out and struck the side of the train 2 feet away from me. I could have been hit in the face. Nobody deserves to be injured as a result of somebody else's stupidity.
@jasonmurray590210 күн бұрын
@@TheCoasterSerpent I agree with all the points you made in the video, especially the concept of providing a small, free, locker to the guests. We may even share the same level of frustration towards ignorant and inconsiderate people. The attitude I had in my comment was aimed at dimwitted parkgoers (38 year old men who lose their keys and get hit by trains, for example); it was not a rebuttal to your video.
@TheCoasterSerpent10 күн бұрын
@@jasonmurray5902 Hey, sorry I came off as abrasive then. I am just beyond frustrated with the idiocy that continues to happen when I visit different parks.
@timstram10 күн бұрын
They want everyone to use their phone for the fast passes though so you literally need to bring your phone to the front of the line. They need better storage options for riders.
@timstram10 күн бұрын
Also I had used a locker for my other loose belongings, including my wallet, and I missed the time out on the locker by 1 minute. I had to hunt down a park attendant because I couldn't unlock the locker without my credit card, which I put in the locker like a responsible guest. Guess what I didn't leave in the locker for the rest of the day. It's bad policies all around that cause the loose articles to be loose
@TheCoasterSerpent10 күн бұрын
I assume you are talking about Six Flags Flash Pass. Yeah, that is a dumb way to do it and they should just issue wristbands like the Cedar Fair Fast lanes. We have all lost track of time at some point and that sucks about missing the locker time by a single min. I assume they do that because of the limited number of lockers, and that there would be plenty of them sitting there empty if they all had an all day rental on them. They want you to move around and use the different locker stations. It is a flaw for those of us who like to sit in one place and marathon a ride.
@batshtcrazy529310 күн бұрын
Your idea is really good, and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out. Then again, people need to do what they're told, and put ALL thier crap in the damn locker! One thing I love about Universal in Orlando, is they have the quick que down pat. Doesnt take long, and all the lines are separated. They even have single rider line, which helps a ton. I mean, if you're going to pay for fast lane, it had better be fast! And to have different rules for all rides? Thats just stupid and insane for the guests, and the safety. All the rides need to have the same rules.
@samu-chan10 күн бұрын
maybe if the lockers were free this would've never happened, i aint paying money everytime i wanna ride something
@TheCoasterSerpent10 күн бұрын
That is why I suggest incorporating this into ticket prices. A regular roller coaster shouldn't be an upcharge attraction.
@Calakapepe11 күн бұрын
In line lockers aren't the issue. It's how the park manages to implement them. Whether dual lockers or pre- line lockers.. they should just be incorporated into the park ticket/ season pass.. it shouldn't feel like your paying for it every time
@TheCoasterSerpent10 күн бұрын
I think its just preference at this point regarding in queue or outside queue lockers. I have been on Velocicoaster a few times and never had any problems with their system. It is space consuming, but that is something parks can work out if they choose. Great Adventure's system, and TT2 (minus the paid locker debacle regarding both) seems to work well. I just do not like Steel Vengeance's system with the traffic jam at metal detection and the dispatches with empty rows. Should certainly be incorporated into the ticket price though.
@michaezell46079 күн бұрын
There are all day lockers one can lease (usually at the front gate area) in which to store personal belongings.
@Calakapepe9 күн бұрын
@@michaezell4607 i personally choose to do the transferable locker.
@chadley201411 күн бұрын
I always wear zippered pockets and never lost anything on a ride.
@TheCoasterSerpent10 күн бұрын
I do too, and have never lost anything; I just can't expect every guest to walk into the park with zipped pockets. People are more concerned with fashion rather than function. I see people walking around at parks all the time with flip flops and clothes not suitable for the occasion.
@TonyM-zi9rq11 күн бұрын
Universal has that policy on Hulk, Velocicoaster and Rip Ride Rocket. Stuff has to go in a locker and then you have to go thru a metal detector.
@nicksvlogs242611 күн бұрын
Stupid policy there are better ways
@aaronsteindler324511 күн бұрын
@@nicksvlogs2426 agreed. The lockers are unnecessarily crowded and they run on a timer, which adds unnecessary stress. BGT has zipper pockets on the seat of Iron Gwazi, which is a much simpler solution.
@TheCoasterSerpent10 күн бұрын
Though in line lockers can work well, it requires a very elaborate system with lots of employees and can be implemented extremely poorly, as in the case of steel vengeance. I like the idea of out of line queue lockers, without strict timers, so one can marathon a ride without going to them after each ride. I would just give the attendants at ride entrances wands, tell them to shout instructions about using lockers when people are approaching, and throw out anyone not following the policy. That seems simpler to me. As for BGT, last time I visited, a phone flew out of someone's pocket and hit the side of the train not even 2 feet from where I was sitting. I just don't care for the pouch system. Cedar Point tried it on Steel Vengeance with hand stamps to mark guests that needed to use them. It was slow as all hell.
@brandee88289 күн бұрын
@@aaronsteindler3245but people are stupid and ignorant and won’t zip up their stuff. Lockers are the only way to provide safety for riders or others near by.
@henrymayer826411 күн бұрын
Wild cats revenge uses in line lockers they seem to work quite well, but I can see how the lockers before the line could be easier for parks.
@nicksvlogs242611 күн бұрын
The best policy for loose articles is have zipable pouches on the underside of the seat one u zipper it after u lowered the harnesses it is impossible to take them out again till the ride stops
@TheCoasterSerpent11 күн бұрын
I believe that is what Iron Gwazi does, and this year I attended BGT and someone took out their phone, lost it, and it hit the side of the train 2 feet from where I was seated. Steel Vengeance once did this too and it was a fiasco for Cedar Point. Its a shame because stuff like that looks good on paper and with responsible people.
@billchief39711 күн бұрын
@TheCoasterSerpent did they remove the pouches on sv? I was there last in 2019
@TheCoasterSerpent11 күн бұрын
@@billchief397 That was the only year they did those. Now, they have lockers mid line where the fast lane used to be, with the fast lane merge point about 20 mins back in the main queue assuming 3 train ops and fast dispatches. They metal detect and wand everyone down. I personally don't like this new system and prefer the way Great Adventure handles things.
@billchief39711 күн бұрын
@TheCoasterSerpent hey good to know! Planning to visit next year if... if they figure top thrill out. Otherwise I haven't been to six flags in gurnee
@nicksvlogs242610 күн бұрын
@@TheCoasterSerpent some coasters has it were it super low under the seat meaning behind your legs that makes it impossible to reach when seatbelts are lowered
@jonblakemore77111 күн бұрын
Rode it opening weekend and made the mistake of riding in the last seat. Totally agree.....needs new restraints ... at the very least. Those transitions in the track are violently brutal to the head/neck area and you absolutely cannot brace for it. I'm glad you enjoyed the park. I love the place and visit regularly from 5 hours away. Been going there since they built the Hoosier Hurricane. Cornball Express IS the coaster gem of the park with it's airtime filled rump above and around the kiddieland area. The classic traditional amusement park atmosphere there can be mesmerizing in the evening. An inland boardwalk amusement park on a beautiful lake in the middle of cornfields in north central Indiana. Thank you Tom Spackman and now Gene Staples.
@Eternyl_bliss-nj9se4 күн бұрын
Yeah don't do the last seat it was abusive.....
@robertstephens518512 күн бұрын
Been on these trains before. I didn't have a problem with them. But I agree if they could find the trains without those stupid shoulder restraints if would be awesome. B&M built trains for mindbender so they could probably produce them for AATL
@jonathanwoods313612 күн бұрын
If they replace the trains on AATL, it can be a hit. They need the lap bar only trains or at least some with maybe even comfort collars. Anything but this.
@VGDomination19 күн бұрын
Works so good at carowinds. You can ride front row of fury 325 10 minutes apart from eachother
@scottchancey446622 күн бұрын
Another thing that is asinine at Cedar Point is the access pass. My wife loves the roller coasters and just last weekend we went and she wanted to ride Steel Vengeance. They write your boarding time down and add whatever the current wait time is after that so it was 2 hours. We proceeded to wait and tried to get her on two trains and the ride ops said let's get this block off for extra leg room to get her in .. The ride ops got the key stuck, called maintenance and the train was put out of service for the rest of the day, come to find out that they only have ONE copy of the key which I told the supervisor is just dumb because now she can't get her on ANY of the trains... So I told my wife, I love you and I'll help her on every ride except Steel Vengeance.... I just don't want to get involved in that malarkey mess again so that I don't say anything that will get me ejected from the park. I think that to make the loose article policy fair for everyone, no cellphones should be permitted at Cedar Point period! And the restrooms are so outdated it's not funny. Back in 2019 when Tony Clark hosted the celebration video for everything that was supposed to happen in 2020, I asked about renovations to restrooms and was made fun of. Everyone says oh that's just Tony, well I'm sorry but in my personal experience from meeting him he is not a very nice person.
@TWHunt23 күн бұрын
The part you didn’t mention is how they try to scam a few extra dollars off you by scaring people into paying for a locker before entering the line. If I remember correctly there is no clear statement that free lockers are available in the line queue.
@anthonyantoniohughes118424 күн бұрын
I respect the Lose article policy at these parks, matter fact they need to enforce this policy on every coaster well!!! the more extreme one's. I remember losing my car keys on superman ultimate flight and great adventure, all because I decided to place my car keys in my jacket button pocket and some how, they manage to fall out and I think they fell out during the bottom of the pretzel loop. The ride ops told us that we would have to wait for the park to close and someone will go back and check but, I used to be a ride op decades ago so I knew these new breeds of ride ops was not going to do no such thing. After waiting almost 2 hours in the ran for another friend to head back to the park and pick us up, I had to leave my car in the parking lot, go to the dealership the next day and get a new key fob which cost me $200, and ever since then, I purchase a locker and place EVERTHING in it. Lesson learned. I do like velocicoaster locker system, it's pretty efficient. Steel Vengeance whole queue system if horrible and I dreed it every time I get in line ugghhh. I skipped it last year because of the long wait time, downtime and f**** up queue locker system.
@DadEvery_Day24 күн бұрын
First off it takes one bonehead to ruin it for everyone which has already happened. 2. CP is liable period. If they weren’t then you would be able to take whatever you want on the ride. 3. CP knows that due to the intensity of the ride anything on a person is LIABLE to fly off! CP tells you this before even entering the line. Plan accordingly!?!?! 🤦🏻♂️ o and the metal detectors yea they do what they are supposed to do. Metal belt buckles yup. Piercings visible and none visible yup.
@LouieRivera-qw9hr28 күн бұрын
Coaster enthusiasts: HOW DARE THEY MAKE US PAY FOR LOCKERS THIS IS ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING also coaster enthusiasts: HOW DARE THEY TRY FIX THE ISSUE I JUST COMPLAINED ABOUT ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING the hypocrisy of coaster enthusiasts needs to be studied
@batshtcrazy529310 күн бұрын
Haha. I didnt want to laugh at this, but did. Because sometimes its true. 😂
@nolangrimes73628 күн бұрын
Only real issue i have with SV line is the fast lane, you pay that much for the fast lane plus and still have to wait 45 min
@SuckaMCsReprahsent2 күн бұрын
That is my entire problem with the fast pass. You pay that much money, you should be able to skip the line entirely
@garywillis725328 күн бұрын
Yes the queue design as a whole is horrible ...However if people followed the rules,obeyed the many signs stating no loose articles the line would move smoother....Seriously why do peoole ignore the signs and show up with phones,key,bags etc etc..Empty your pockets as instructed..it's not hard
@nealkelly975729 күн бұрын
Was there 3 weeks ago. Literally watched half empty trains running for 2 hours waiting in line, so frustrating
@TheCoasterSerpent29 күн бұрын
Yes, that is never fun to see and frustrating to deal with. It was disappointing to see another year where they haven't fixed this mess.
@Cyco-DudeАй бұрын
...is that music from the NES game Blaster Master? lol...
@jonblaichАй бұрын
I left my wallet and phone in the car in preparation for this policy. And I secured my rental car key fob to a belt loop on my pants using a key ring. While the fob did set off the metal detector, the Cedar Point employee looked at how I secured it and let me go through. Overall, it was a bit of a nerve-wracking experience.
@justinvinyard440Ай бұрын
Even the fast lane line has the worst merge point on Steel Vengeance and Millennium Force. What makes it more worse is that Cedar Point is overselling too many fast lane wristbands and not severely limiting them to be sold out causing fast lines jammed to 30 mins or like a hour wait and its not worth it. I'm not going to Cedar Point until they find improvement for their fast lane. Cedar point must severely limit fast lane so their sold out, must build new stairs, paths to the stations so longer merging for Raptor, Millennium, Magnum, Rougarou or modifying the tunnel line with two lines for normal and fast line to the station on Steel Vengeance. If they make those improvements then people would be waiting lesser in the fast line and instantly walk on to the attractions with no more waiting even marathon a ride. I wouldn't be surprised if Cedar Point gets rid of the PLUS option just like Kings island, Carowinds, Kings Dominion and Dorney Park.
@h1jen1xАй бұрын
I've seen guests bug out the line employees/ride ops many times over fanny packs.
@rossh688Ай бұрын
If they put the lockers in a better location for SV, it will be much further from the station and you will be without your phone for a longer time. The line works fine enough and FREE enough, the way it is other than metal detectors. Obviously, they can't use the same ones as the front gate unless those could be set to a much higher sensitivity since those allow keys, cellphones and wallets to get through. As far as TT2 goes, another object flying from the ride that nearly killed someone would be worse for the park than listening to people whining about paying for lockers. The only system I see working, easily, for TT2 would be a Yukon Striker system. The location of the track and the exit for TT2 limits, greatly, where free lockers could go and be easily accessible once the ride is over.
@TheCoasterSerpentАй бұрын
The diagram I showed of the modification to the queue keeps the lockers in the same location, it gets rid of the tunnel and feeds guests directly to the lockers after the current fast lane join. The way TT2 does things, lines move faster. There is no metal detection right before the station to slow down the movement of lines, resulting in rows being dispatched empty while there is over an hour wait in line. I haven't been to Canadas Wonderland, but I could care less about not having my phone in line when things are moving faster and I am at an amusement park to enjoy rides, not social media.
@Justin0807Ай бұрын
I think as long as you have zippered pockets, you should not have to get a locker. I've been getting on rollercoasters for many years now and never lost anything that was secured in a zippered pocket.
@TheCoasterSerpentАй бұрын
I wear zipped pockets too, and same, they have been a wonderful investment. Have known a few people who have had their stuff float out of their pockets on rides. They learned the hard way. Cedar Point could make a killing by putting their brand and coasters on zipped pocket shorts and spreading the word.
@Duffster115Ай бұрын
Personally I think there should be no other loose article policy then the typical loose article bins or a free locker just before getting on the ride, for I know loose articles are a huge danger, but a phone is not going to do any damage in a queue line, so why ban it there? Also what’s more simple then putting your stuff that isn’t secured in a bin? No metal detectors needed, no makeing up charge attractions by makeing people pay for a locker that stupidly is required, and no loose article problems, honestly why did parks ever switch away from those older, and way better loose article policy’s
@TheCoasterSerpentАй бұрын
I see a couple of problems with bins. Firstly, they slow down operations. Having guests immediately board a train and get secured at an extremely busy park like Cedar Point will immensely help with keeping those lines moving. I know Knotts has a terrible reputation with Ghost Rider and how long it takes trains to dispatch. I even see it at Cedar Point on rides like Raptor. People often complain about how that ride brings you to a sudden stop at the end and faster operations with no bins would help with the trains constantly setting up. Secondly, there is an issue with theft of guest items. Once were being asked to put our wallets and car keys in a bin, I immediately don't trust that situation.
@Duffster115Ай бұрын
@@TheCoasterSerpent there are ways to solve those issues without implementing worse policy’s for the theft one just throw a cover and a lock on it like what have been typically done for coasters with 2 trains, if only one train is running you should be able to see it if someone tries and yell at them or whatever or call security or whatever and get the problem solved. For the slow down on operations, from my experience with Kennywood it’s not that much at all or at least it doesn’t feel like to me that that process takes that much more time to be a big deal, and if it is then put those bins, or even more secure free lockers just before the station, or just before getting on. As long as up you can have your phone and other loose articles for the queue, and you don’t have to pay for something like lockers, it’s ok. I mention the bins most because it’s simile, cheap, easy, and effective, and lastly it’s what I have experience with and it’s way better than throwing everything in a locker that may or may not cost money and waiting hours with nothing, and better hope there isn’t some reason you need contact somebody or somebody needs to contact you, for that’s not happening when you can’t have your phone in a place where having your phone isn’t going to cause any harm
@TheCoasterSerpentАй бұрын
@@Duffster115 Kennywood is actually the park where I was with a friend who had his stuff taken after putting it in the box by Thunderbolt. Then the ride ops have to deal with that guest, having to call security and deal with that when guests are waiting in line to ride. At a park like Cedar Point, I really feel the antics of the stupidest 1% come back to bite us all in the butt. I visited last Thursday and in the 5 hours I was there, I saw Magnum stopped twice on the lift and a phone was lying on Raptor's stairwell halfway up the lift. People just don't follow the rules and its a detriment to us all. As for not having a phone while in the line, I can deal with this even as a single rider most of the time attending without a friend. We are all too attached to our phones, and I fully understand that many people have issues going on at home, but people were able to deal with that before cell phones were a thing. Using Raptor again as an example, the ride came out and featured a mid course brake run so that they could run 3 trains, keeping them continuously moving with one on the lift, one finishing the 2nd half, and one loading. The bins stop the ops from efficiently loading trains. The ride regularly gets over an hour wait.
@batshtcrazy529310 күн бұрын
In a lot of cases, its all about the $$$. But in some, its safety and theft related. Im sure the parks get a lot of complaints every day about the locker situations.
@nicksvlogs2426Ай бұрын
Six flags great adventures only have no loose article police on eltoro kingda ka and the joker
@susanturnmire2949Ай бұрын
Would you rather not have loose article policy and fet hurt from something falling out of someone's pocket
@TheCoasterSerpentАй бұрын
Never once did I argue that there shouldn't be a policy, in fact, I advocated for a stricter policy using movable lockers. I argued for better operations by having guests board with nothing on them, resulting in faster moving lines and a policy that isn't different for every ride.
@AngryGumballАй бұрын
My first and only visit to CP was just before the strict loose articles policy - had no issues taking my phone in the queue. I did do a "roaming locker" for the day though to drop my goods off before getting in line - would it be more effective just to not deal with the SV-specific lockers and just use my normal locker? Still sounds absolutely terrible, bunch of humans in a cage (with the night time spiders)
@etymonlegomenon931Ай бұрын
Great music choice, haha. Hope you get a solid microphone soon
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Steel vengeance "SteVe" has lockers you can pay for across from the entry way of the queue. I support the use of upcharge lockers. We go for 12-13 hour days in just about every park we go to. The only thing on me is the unlimited drink wrist band, a locker wristband (depending on the park), and a credit card in a zipped or buttoned pocket. The person I normally go with, we are normally on our phone all day type of people, so going to the park and leaving them locked up for hours is kind of nice to be honest.
I have a better experience when I use the paid lockers rather than the free in line lockers. TT2 made me realize that metal detecting at the entrance to rides was the way to go. My experiences at Great Adventure as well. I just suggested they make them free, adding the cost to tickets and passes to stop the complaining about the attractions being an upcharge.
@@TheCoasterSerpent if they had a add on to the ticket even i would be okay with that too
Folks. Fast pass doesn’t mean front of line. The line design doesn’t matter It is the number of people in line. Metal detectors take time. I had a metal belt buckle and got the wand. The wand is the issue. Just rode it 6 times last week. Do a take about maverick. That is the worst I have ever experienced plus it breaks every few hours and screws the people waiting
The fast lane join being so far back is a minor annoyance, but all the same it is the furthest back join in the park for really no good reason. The main issue, and the reason for the video is the constant dispatches with empty rows due to metal detection not getting guests through fast enough. Also, the area around metal detection is a nightmare with people trying to go every which way, jostling by to get to and from the lockers. See the diagrams in the video. Maverick has been terrible this year, with even the fast lane getting over a 30 min wait. The capacity is terrible on that ride.
SFGAdv in 2016 had a system where employees would check pockets and if you didn't have at least one pocket that is zippered, you were sent to the lockers unless there was nothing in your pockets. There should at least be something like that because not having your phone is bad like what if a friend or family member gets sent to the hospital or an emergency comes up like if I'm out of town and there was an earthquake that damaged my town?
Until the early 2000s, Tig'rr ran with no restraints at all. Get in. Sit down. Hold on.
Great video. Thanks
do you know where you do NOT HEAR about lose articles? Island's of Adventure and Universal Studios!. Cedar Fair needs to adopt this 1- lockers need to be free and large enough to hold Fannie packs, cell phones and keys for riders. 2- this needs to be enforced by a ride attendant Once people know what to expect with no loose articles, they will abide and honestly, i didn't miss the articles while waiting. Furthermore, the one thing i have always been afraid of losing, my keys, i have never actually had happen but would be horrified to experience. It's all preventable and the park owes it to guests to make this easy and free to do.
The only issue I see with Universal's system is that it requires plenty of space to implement in queue lockers as well as employees. That is why I suggested just giving the ride attendants at the entrances wands and having them enforce the policy there, like Great Adventure does.
@@TheCoasterSerpent you’ve clearly never been
@@Bnizzofashizzo Been to Great Adventure twice and Universal 3 times.
Steel Force at Dorney Park has a unique bin system with shelves that coincide with which train you are riding. A shelf for the red train, one for the blue train, and one for the black train, and most of the time Steel Force is two train ops. Once the guests put their belongings on the shelf that coincides with their train, the ride attendants slides the door that is covering the train that is approaching the final brakes, to the train that is about to leave the station. As someone who worked at Six Flags New England last season as a ride operator while I was attending technical school in the area, I can tell you how many times people still lost their phones due to them being so dumb enough to take it out after the train has left the station, thinking that the operators and attendants wouldn't notice. I can stress enough of how the security team must have felt overwhelmed of getting reports from ops saying that guests were taking phones out mid ride or jumping the fences to retrieve lost items. One such case last year at that same park while I was attending as a guest, when I was about to get in line for Wicked Cyclone they had to shut the ride down due to someone jumping the fence to retrieve a season pass card, YES, A SEASON PASS CARD WHILE YOU CAN ALSO HAVE IT ON YOUR PHONE, like, you had to shut the ride down just for a card for your season pass which you can have through your phone.
I appreciate you making a video like this! I’m visiting in July and I thought the lockers were at the front of the queue! Thanks for informing me about this so that my party can take all loose articles off before the ride so that we can all go straight to the detectors.
Great idea!! It seems that just having signs aren't enough. And not having to pay for a locker each time would [hopefully] deter those who feel inconvenienced from ignoring those rules. Those who are on the rides when these things happen have mental scars forever as well, and someone other than the parties witness to these horrific events need to be made aware of how dangerous this has gotten, and how bold and "safe" people think they are. One vid about this alleged that the man was warned not to go through, entered through an employee door, and was struck. If this is so, ALL DOORS ACCESSING THE RESTRICTED AREAS OF THE RIDE NEED TO BE LOCKED DURING OPERATION.(emphasized only.) Regardless, those employees have to deal with that for the rest of their lives as well. Its a loss for all involved.
Please help them
Why would they buy a deadly coaster!!! I think they need to fix this!!! Please tell them!!! File a complaint!!! Safetey
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Yukon Striker has the perfect solution, I hear. I was talking about a moveable bin, that corresponds with the trains. Its there right before you load to put your stuff in just before you board, then it rotates so no one can get to your stuff, and it allows for the next train. Then its on the exit side of the platform when you pull back in so you can grab your stuff. The person said "oh so just like Yukon Striker?" Its perfect. You carry everything up on the platform with you, and you dont ride with anything, knowing that no one will have access to it until your train comes back to the station.
Fanny pack. Peoblem solved.
They do need to change. Small hip/waist bags that attach to your belt and are fine in extreme motorsports on motorcycles and high speeds should be allowed on roller coasters so that we women don't have to remove our belts every ride and risk not being able to ride home if some foreigner steals our bag with our phone and keys in it.
The individual involved in this incident has passed away from his injuries.
ive got an upcoming trip to a local park planned and went to a store recently with my wife to hunt for a fanny pack. when i went to this park as a kid and even the local area zoo i remember we would always get these in the 80s as a safer way to hold our items. and now with the advent of having car keys and cell phones they seem even more important for a day out to an amusement park. and a fanny pack is cheaper and easier to wear than hunting for pants with zipper pockets in husky sizes. and i say this as im at the physical size where i may fit on a decent amount of rides but pants with zippers would be hard to find. personally i think the parks could make a killing selling themed fanny packs right at the front entrance. advertise them as "keep your items safe and have a wearable souvenier." if the park im going to has them i may buy one there as an extra. plus side if they make them water proof.
I use zippered pockets and have a keychain that I hope onto my belt loop and it holds my CC, pass and ID and key.
Fanny packs are now prohibited on most attractions due to them interfering with the ability of the restraints to be closed properly.
No they don’t the guy climbed 2 major fences everyone should not be punished just because of one person
Its not just one person. Every single time a person takes their phone out on a ride, it puts everyone behind them at risk. Parks have tried time and time again to warn parkgoers about loose articles. Stupid people don't listen, and staff arn't empowered enough to do anything about it.
Even one death is one too many so yes the policies need to change. People are bringing way too many unnecessary belongings into the park's than in decades past ...items like cellphones for example which we DIDN'T HAVE just three short decades ago or unsecured keys (without a Keychain to securely keep them in place) and a ton of other stuff that should just be stored in one's car while inside the park.
I bring a hip pack and an average IQ to every amusement park I visit. I've never lost any items and I remain capitated.
All fine and dandy, but how many times have you seen another persons phone fly past you? How many times do you see idiots taking selfies and recording their rides? So far this year, I have seen phones out on Diamondback twice, Maverick, and Iron Gwazi. In the case of Iron Gwazi, the phone flew out and struck the side of the train 2 feet away from me. I could have been hit in the face. Nobody deserves to be injured as a result of somebody else's stupidity.
@@TheCoasterSerpent I agree with all the points you made in the video, especially the concept of providing a small, free, locker to the guests. We may even share the same level of frustration towards ignorant and inconsiderate people. The attitude I had in my comment was aimed at dimwitted parkgoers (38 year old men who lose their keys and get hit by trains, for example); it was not a rebuttal to your video.
@@jasonmurray5902 Hey, sorry I came off as abrasive then. I am just beyond frustrated with the idiocy that continues to happen when I visit different parks.
They want everyone to use their phone for the fast passes though so you literally need to bring your phone to the front of the line. They need better storage options for riders.
Also I had used a locker for my other loose belongings, including my wallet, and I missed the time out on the locker by 1 minute. I had to hunt down a park attendant because I couldn't unlock the locker without my credit card, which I put in the locker like a responsible guest. Guess what I didn't leave in the locker for the rest of the day. It's bad policies all around that cause the loose articles to be loose
I assume you are talking about Six Flags Flash Pass. Yeah, that is a dumb way to do it and they should just issue wristbands like the Cedar Fair Fast lanes. We have all lost track of time at some point and that sucks about missing the locker time by a single min. I assume they do that because of the limited number of lockers, and that there would be plenty of them sitting there empty if they all had an all day rental on them. They want you to move around and use the different locker stations. It is a flaw for those of us who like to sit in one place and marathon a ride.
Your idea is really good, and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out. Then again, people need to do what they're told, and put ALL thier crap in the damn locker! One thing I love about Universal in Orlando, is they have the quick que down pat. Doesnt take long, and all the lines are separated. They even have single rider line, which helps a ton. I mean, if you're going to pay for fast lane, it had better be fast! And to have different rules for all rides? Thats just stupid and insane for the guests, and the safety. All the rides need to have the same rules.
maybe if the lockers were free this would've never happened, i aint paying money everytime i wanna ride something
That is why I suggest incorporating this into ticket prices. A regular roller coaster shouldn't be an upcharge attraction.
In line lockers aren't the issue. It's how the park manages to implement them. Whether dual lockers or pre- line lockers.. they should just be incorporated into the park ticket/ season pass.. it shouldn't feel like your paying for it every time
I think its just preference at this point regarding in queue or outside queue lockers. I have been on Velocicoaster a few times and never had any problems with their system. It is space consuming, but that is something parks can work out if they choose. Great Adventure's system, and TT2 (minus the paid locker debacle regarding both) seems to work well. I just do not like Steel Vengeance's system with the traffic jam at metal detection and the dispatches with empty rows. Should certainly be incorporated into the ticket price though.
There are all day lockers one can lease (usually at the front gate area) in which to store personal belongings.
@@michaezell4607 i personally choose to do the transferable locker.
I always wear zippered pockets and never lost anything on a ride.
I do too, and have never lost anything; I just can't expect every guest to walk into the park with zipped pockets. People are more concerned with fashion rather than function. I see people walking around at parks all the time with flip flops and clothes not suitable for the occasion.
Universal has that policy on Hulk, Velocicoaster and Rip Ride Rocket. Stuff has to go in a locker and then you have to go thru a metal detector.
Stupid policy there are better ways
@@nicksvlogs2426 agreed. The lockers are unnecessarily crowded and they run on a timer, which adds unnecessary stress. BGT has zipper pockets on the seat of Iron Gwazi, which is a much simpler solution.
Though in line lockers can work well, it requires a very elaborate system with lots of employees and can be implemented extremely poorly, as in the case of steel vengeance. I like the idea of out of line queue lockers, without strict timers, so one can marathon a ride without going to them after each ride. I would just give the attendants at ride entrances wands, tell them to shout instructions about using lockers when people are approaching, and throw out anyone not following the policy. That seems simpler to me. As for BGT, last time I visited, a phone flew out of someone's pocket and hit the side of the train not even 2 feet from where I was sitting. I just don't care for the pouch system. Cedar Point tried it on Steel Vengeance with hand stamps to mark guests that needed to use them. It was slow as all hell.
@@aaronsteindler3245but people are stupid and ignorant and won’t zip up their stuff. Lockers are the only way to provide safety for riders or others near by.
Wild cats revenge uses in line lockers they seem to work quite well, but I can see how the lockers before the line could be easier for parks.
The best policy for loose articles is have zipable pouches on the underside of the seat one u zipper it after u lowered the harnesses it is impossible to take them out again till the ride stops
I believe that is what Iron Gwazi does, and this year I attended BGT and someone took out their phone, lost it, and it hit the side of the train 2 feet from where I was seated. Steel Vengeance once did this too and it was a fiasco for Cedar Point. Its a shame because stuff like that looks good on paper and with responsible people.
@TheCoasterSerpent did they remove the pouches on sv? I was there last in 2019
@@billchief397 That was the only year they did those. Now, they have lockers mid line where the fast lane used to be, with the fast lane merge point about 20 mins back in the main queue assuming 3 train ops and fast dispatches. They metal detect and wand everyone down. I personally don't like this new system and prefer the way Great Adventure handles things.
@TheCoasterSerpent hey good to know! Planning to visit next year if... if they figure top thrill out. Otherwise I haven't been to six flags in gurnee
@@TheCoasterSerpent some coasters has it were it super low under the seat meaning behind your legs that makes it impossible to reach when seatbelts are lowered
Rode it opening weekend and made the mistake of riding in the last seat. Totally agree.....needs new restraints ... at the very least. Those transitions in the track are violently brutal to the head/neck area and you absolutely cannot brace for it. I'm glad you enjoyed the park. I love the place and visit regularly from 5 hours away. Been going there since they built the Hoosier Hurricane. Cornball Express IS the coaster gem of the park with it's airtime filled rump above and around the kiddieland area. The classic traditional amusement park atmosphere there can be mesmerizing in the evening. An inland boardwalk amusement park on a beautiful lake in the middle of cornfields in north central Indiana. Thank you Tom Spackman and now Gene Staples.
Yeah don't do the last seat it was abusive.....
Been on these trains before. I didn't have a problem with them. But I agree if they could find the trains without those stupid shoulder restraints if would be awesome. B&M built trains for mindbender so they could probably produce them for AATL
If they replace the trains on AATL, it can be a hit. They need the lap bar only trains or at least some with maybe even comfort collars. Anything but this.
Works so good at carowinds. You can ride front row of fury 325 10 minutes apart from eachother
Another thing that is asinine at Cedar Point is the access pass. My wife loves the roller coasters and just last weekend we went and she wanted to ride Steel Vengeance. They write your boarding time down and add whatever the current wait time is after that so it was 2 hours. We proceeded to wait and tried to get her on two trains and the ride ops said let's get this block off for extra leg room to get her in .. The ride ops got the key stuck, called maintenance and the train was put out of service for the rest of the day, come to find out that they only have ONE copy of the key which I told the supervisor is just dumb because now she can't get her on ANY of the trains... So I told my wife, I love you and I'll help her on every ride except Steel Vengeance.... I just don't want to get involved in that malarkey mess again so that I don't say anything that will get me ejected from the park. I think that to make the loose article policy fair for everyone, no cellphones should be permitted at Cedar Point period! And the restrooms are so outdated it's not funny. Back in 2019 when Tony Clark hosted the celebration video for everything that was supposed to happen in 2020, I asked about renovations to restrooms and was made fun of. Everyone says oh that's just Tony, well I'm sorry but in my personal experience from meeting him he is not a very nice person.
The part you didn’t mention is how they try to scam a few extra dollars off you by scaring people into paying for a locker before entering the line. If I remember correctly there is no clear statement that free lockers are available in the line queue.
I respect the Lose article policy at these parks, matter fact they need to enforce this policy on every coaster well!!! the more extreme one's. I remember losing my car keys on superman ultimate flight and great adventure, all because I decided to place my car keys in my jacket button pocket and some how, they manage to fall out and I think they fell out during the bottom of the pretzel loop. The ride ops told us that we would have to wait for the park to close and someone will go back and check but, I used to be a ride op decades ago so I knew these new breeds of ride ops was not going to do no such thing. After waiting almost 2 hours in the ran for another friend to head back to the park and pick us up, I had to leave my car in the parking lot, go to the dealership the next day and get a new key fob which cost me $200, and ever since then, I purchase a locker and place EVERTHING in it. Lesson learned. I do like velocicoaster locker system, it's pretty efficient. Steel Vengeance whole queue system if horrible and I dreed it every time I get in line ugghhh. I skipped it last year because of the long wait time, downtime and f**** up queue locker system.
First off it takes one bonehead to ruin it for everyone which has already happened. 2. CP is liable period. If they weren’t then you would be able to take whatever you want on the ride. 3. CP knows that due to the intensity of the ride anything on a person is LIABLE to fly off! CP tells you this before even entering the line. Plan accordingly!?!?! 🤦🏻♂️ o and the metal detectors yea they do what they are supposed to do. Metal belt buckles yup. Piercings visible and none visible yup.
Coaster enthusiasts: HOW DARE THEY MAKE US PAY FOR LOCKERS THIS IS ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING also coaster enthusiasts: HOW DARE THEY TRY FIX THE ISSUE I JUST COMPLAINED ABOUT ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING the hypocrisy of coaster enthusiasts needs to be studied
Haha. I didnt want to laugh at this, but did. Because sometimes its true. 😂
Only real issue i have with SV line is the fast lane, you pay that much for the fast lane plus and still have to wait 45 min
That is my entire problem with the fast pass. You pay that much money, you should be able to skip the line entirely
Yes the queue design as a whole is horrible ...However if people followed the rules,obeyed the many signs stating no loose articles the line would move smoother....Seriously why do peoole ignore the signs and show up with phones,key,bags etc etc..Empty your pockets as instructed..it's not hard
Was there 3 weeks ago. Literally watched half empty trains running for 2 hours waiting in line, so frustrating
Yes, that is never fun to see and frustrating to deal with. It was disappointing to see another year where they haven't fixed this mess.
...is that music from the NES game Blaster Master? lol...
I left my wallet and phone in the car in preparation for this policy. And I secured my rental car key fob to a belt loop on my pants using a key ring. While the fob did set off the metal detector, the Cedar Point employee looked at how I secured it and let me go through. Overall, it was a bit of a nerve-wracking experience.
Even the fast lane line has the worst merge point on Steel Vengeance and Millennium Force. What makes it more worse is that Cedar Point is overselling too many fast lane wristbands and not severely limiting them to be sold out causing fast lines jammed to 30 mins or like a hour wait and its not worth it. I'm not going to Cedar Point until they find improvement for their fast lane. Cedar point must severely limit fast lane so their sold out, must build new stairs, paths to the stations so longer merging for Raptor, Millennium, Magnum, Rougarou or modifying the tunnel line with two lines for normal and fast line to the station on Steel Vengeance. If they make those improvements then people would be waiting lesser in the fast line and instantly walk on to the attractions with no more waiting even marathon a ride. I wouldn't be surprised if Cedar Point gets rid of the PLUS option just like Kings island, Carowinds, Kings Dominion and Dorney Park.
I've seen guests bug out the line employees/ride ops many times over fanny packs.
If they put the lockers in a better location for SV, it will be much further from the station and you will be without your phone for a longer time. The line works fine enough and FREE enough, the way it is other than metal detectors. Obviously, they can't use the same ones as the front gate unless those could be set to a much higher sensitivity since those allow keys, cellphones and wallets to get through. As far as TT2 goes, another object flying from the ride that nearly killed someone would be worse for the park than listening to people whining about paying for lockers. The only system I see working, easily, for TT2 would be a Yukon Striker system. The location of the track and the exit for TT2 limits, greatly, where free lockers could go and be easily accessible once the ride is over.
The diagram I showed of the modification to the queue keeps the lockers in the same location, it gets rid of the tunnel and feeds guests directly to the lockers after the current fast lane join. The way TT2 does things, lines move faster. There is no metal detection right before the station to slow down the movement of lines, resulting in rows being dispatched empty while there is over an hour wait in line. I haven't been to Canadas Wonderland, but I could care less about not having my phone in line when things are moving faster and I am at an amusement park to enjoy rides, not social media.
I think as long as you have zippered pockets, you should not have to get a locker. I've been getting on rollercoasters for many years now and never lost anything that was secured in a zippered pocket.
I wear zipped pockets too, and same, they have been a wonderful investment. Have known a few people who have had their stuff float out of their pockets on rides. They learned the hard way. Cedar Point could make a killing by putting their brand and coasters on zipped pocket shorts and spreading the word.
Personally I think there should be no other loose article policy then the typical loose article bins or a free locker just before getting on the ride, for I know loose articles are a huge danger, but a phone is not going to do any damage in a queue line, so why ban it there? Also what’s more simple then putting your stuff that isn’t secured in a bin? No metal detectors needed, no makeing up charge attractions by makeing people pay for a locker that stupidly is required, and no loose article problems, honestly why did parks ever switch away from those older, and way better loose article policy’s
I see a couple of problems with bins. Firstly, they slow down operations. Having guests immediately board a train and get secured at an extremely busy park like Cedar Point will immensely help with keeping those lines moving. I know Knotts has a terrible reputation with Ghost Rider and how long it takes trains to dispatch. I even see it at Cedar Point on rides like Raptor. People often complain about how that ride brings you to a sudden stop at the end and faster operations with no bins would help with the trains constantly setting up. Secondly, there is an issue with theft of guest items. Once were being asked to put our wallets and car keys in a bin, I immediately don't trust that situation.
@@TheCoasterSerpent there are ways to solve those issues without implementing worse policy’s for the theft one just throw a cover and a lock on it like what have been typically done for coasters with 2 trains, if only one train is running you should be able to see it if someone tries and yell at them or whatever or call security or whatever and get the problem solved. For the slow down on operations, from my experience with Kennywood it’s not that much at all or at least it doesn’t feel like to me that that process takes that much more time to be a big deal, and if it is then put those bins, or even more secure free lockers just before the station, or just before getting on. As long as up you can have your phone and other loose articles for the queue, and you don’t have to pay for something like lockers, it’s ok. I mention the bins most because it’s simile, cheap, easy, and effective, and lastly it’s what I have experience with and it’s way better than throwing everything in a locker that may or may not cost money and waiting hours with nothing, and better hope there isn’t some reason you need contact somebody or somebody needs to contact you, for that’s not happening when you can’t have your phone in a place where having your phone isn’t going to cause any harm
@@Duffster115 Kennywood is actually the park where I was with a friend who had his stuff taken after putting it in the box by Thunderbolt. Then the ride ops have to deal with that guest, having to call security and deal with that when guests are waiting in line to ride. At a park like Cedar Point, I really feel the antics of the stupidest 1% come back to bite us all in the butt. I visited last Thursday and in the 5 hours I was there, I saw Magnum stopped twice on the lift and a phone was lying on Raptor's stairwell halfway up the lift. People just don't follow the rules and its a detriment to us all. As for not having a phone while in the line, I can deal with this even as a single rider most of the time attending without a friend. We are all too attached to our phones, and I fully understand that many people have issues going on at home, but people were able to deal with that before cell phones were a thing. Using Raptor again as an example, the ride came out and featured a mid course brake run so that they could run 3 trains, keeping them continuously moving with one on the lift, one finishing the 2nd half, and one loading. The bins stop the ops from efficiently loading trains. The ride regularly gets over an hour wait.
In a lot of cases, its all about the $$$. But in some, its safety and theft related. Im sure the parks get a lot of complaints every day about the locker situations.
Six flags great adventures only have no loose article police on eltoro kingda ka and the joker
Would you rather not have loose article policy and fet hurt from something falling out of someone's pocket
Never once did I argue that there shouldn't be a policy, in fact, I advocated for a stricter policy using movable lockers. I argued for better operations by having guests board with nothing on them, resulting in faster moving lines and a policy that isn't different for every ride.
My first and only visit to CP was just before the strict loose articles policy - had no issues taking my phone in the queue. I did do a "roaming locker" for the day though to drop my goods off before getting in line - would it be more effective just to not deal with the SV-specific lockers and just use my normal locker? Still sounds absolutely terrible, bunch of humans in a cage (with the night time spiders)
Great music choice, haha. Hope you get a solid microphone soon