THIS OLD OUTBOARD
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Are my 70 horse Evinrude carbs the same as this ?
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I’m so freaked out about doing the rebuild myself . I have three carbs and rebuild kits as spares . Easy job or a b-tch ?😃
Need to do the impeller too . Easy or hard?
Hahaha buddy is hilarious he wants to giver the beans
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Stubborn 4 horse Motor
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Constant tension clamps work well on fuel lines and prevent leaks best I've found. I bought a set of assorted sizes off ebay for cheap and they work great , just a FYI. I've learned alot watching your videos out here on the Oregon coast , thanks ,and keep up the good work 👍
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Ingenious fix - well done. Still like helicoil for long term solution, but this worked out much better than I would have expected. Still wonder why it's so hard to start for you, but the electric drill solution would seem to be a good answer for anyone using it on a long term basis. Looking forward to the next video.
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You and I are in the same boat, just bought a 87 Johnson 150 a few months ago. New to mechanics but I'm handy. Bought a carb kit and began. I noticed two of my 3 units have cracks! One is pretty deep And goes way back in. One is a hair line. She still does 55 wot. Trying to find a new carb is impossible.
Hey. Thanks for tuning in. I just ran a couple of part numbers for an 87 150 Johnson on Ebay and there are a few depending on your model. If you haven't already give ebay a try- you may be able to swap some things around- Thanks again !
@@THISOLDOUTBOARD1 ya I have checked eBay. My motor model is J150GTLCUR trying to see if she's still performing well for my needs, do I spend the money on the car s or just JB weld it the best I can or what's visible to midigate the crack. I live in florida, the boat is from ten. I'm assuming it was victim to afreeze. I'm a most waterways here are only 30-40 mph so I'm hardly ever topping out. The river system we go to a lot is 25. So as long as it's not going to get worse, it might be what it will be?
@@THISOLDOUTBOARD1 btw, the ones on eBay the stamp on the front of the carb says 1 5/16 and the stamp on mine says 1 3/8. I don't know anything about this stuff but I noticed the difference. And thank you so much for your time!!
My guess is compression is low, but I can’t remember if you checked it already. First rule of TOO: if you have compression everything else is just….____
Hey. Thanks for tuning in. Yes- 5 pulls its at 80 even. Maybe more using the drill. Thanks again !
at 10:09 in the video you determine the cable is shot? what are you wiggling around to check the slop. I think my cable is shot but I want to make sure I am at the end of the tensioner but in the other direction. my roller is on the right side of the cam points. Does this mean new cables? It's a Johnson 30 hp J30ELCOA. I bought the boat used and I am concerned the throttle cables may go to a different outboard and it just was frankensteined back together. What would you recommend?
Hey. Thanks for tuning in. I believe I was just using the control lever- moving it back n forth- Well I can't really recommend anything without being there and seeing it but I will say- For some peace of mind, just throw a new cable on it and chalk it up as "routine maintenance"- One thing less to worry about- It probably is worn- a little routine maintenance goes a long way-
@THISOLDOUTBOARD1 my concern about getting a new throttle cable is I don't know the right size cable. I'm concerned the cable that is installed is the wring cable. It seems to be changed recently. Anyway to tell if it's right? I bough the boat last week. The controls are black and the motor is white don't know if that says anything
@THISOLDOUTBOARD1 also is there any other way to adjust the roller and the 2 points on the cam other than the throttle cable? It's just so close after adjusting the throttle cable to max. It's probably stretched because the adjustment "screw" is at the largest point and maxed out on the cable.
@@xxboothbykingxx3944 all the OMC cables for these outboards are the same, all you need to do is choose what length you need. I think your best bet is to get an omc service manual for your year/model- look on ebay for a good used one- it will give you proper procedures for installing/adjusting the throttle cable and the link & sync procedures- if its not synchronized properly it won't run right or maybe not at all. A manual will save you tons of time- there should be an idle stop/adjustment screw, number 84 in the schematic (www.marineengine.com/parts/johnson-evinrude-parts.php?year=1985&hp=30&model=J30ELCOA&manufacturer=Johnson§ion=MIDSECTION) this is how you set the position of the roller/cam follower. If the cable is not set properly your gonna have a hard time setting the roller- this is also your slow speed timing with the two marks on the cam. Also at full throttle the carb butterfly needs to be perfectly horizontal, again, if the cable is not set right it's gonna have problems running at full throttle. It's all about synchronizing throttle and timing. If/when you adjust one thing you'll have to re-adjust everything. It can get very frustrating without a manual..
Hello again friend, got my 1963 evinrude 10 hp all taken apart and painted put several coats of Moeller primer and finished off with evinrude light blue also Moeller paint, I'm getting set to apply the clear coat but debating if I should apply clear coat on the powerhead. Advise? Not sure if the heat from the motor will do any good.
Hey. Thanks for tuning in. Well I've never tried it so not much help here. I always used the high heat, fuel/oil resistant auto parts paint and it looked pretty good- but I flipped all those outboards so I never got to see what they looked like a year or so later. Maybe check out iboats.com forum on painting- might find some good info there. Thanks again !
You can always cut a hole in the cover on the top😂
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hey, great video but i am a little confused on the fuel lines... I understand what you're saying about the T off the main fuel line going from the pump to the carb bowl and attaching the side end to the in on the new primer then going up through the small line to the top of the carb... but what happens to the other fuel line that was going the the O.M.C. primer from the side of the carb? thanks for your help... Mike.
Hey. Thanks for tuning in. It depends on which type carb bowl you have. Some bowls only have the "line in" coming from the fuel pump, so you would use the "T". Others have the line in and a "line out" from the front/side of the bowl- normally there would be a brass drain screw & washer there- so use the front/side line out to go to the primer pump and don't use the "T". Hope that helps!
@@THISOLDOUTBOARD1 yeah buddy, thank you so much for your quick reply, I do have the line out! perfect, no tee needed. Much appreciated! I Love your videos, extremely helpful! Mike.
I don't think God wants you to fix that outboard motor.
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Git you a spray bottle an some peppermint mouthwash and the mosquitoes will not both you.
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Did you ever check compression? Nice video
Hey. Thanks for tuning in. Yes 80 even with about 5 hand pulls. Thanks again !
It doesn’t seem like your putting enough torque on the flywheel nut! If it isn’t enough the key will shear.
Hey. Thanks for tuning in. Nice observation. Thanks for reminding me!
I was expecting a "Pin up" girl😅😊
Mr. Moore! Thanks for tuning in. Hows that outhouse working out? Hahaha Classic Ed! Thanks again !
The reason you can't start it and he can , It's all about the position your tongue . TEE HEEE TEE HEE. Love the vids later
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You sure did a hell of a lot of work on that little cutie it should purr like a kitten see you in the next one 👍🏻🤘🏻
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I had a 74 4hp Johnson seahorse a long time ago and you’d have to crank the throttle up high when starting too. Then it ran fine. Wondering if it might help to put the lid on it while starting to restrict it some? Good video 👍
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You give new meaning to the word cobbler throw that motor in the lake
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I guess you have deep pockets and since no one fixes things any longer. I wouldn’t complain if you over pay for replacements. This was done out of fun. If we get a few spins on the lake and someone learns something from the video. Great
Good trick with pinning the bolt in place! Would be a permanent fix for me. My Evinrude 4hp definitely needs the throttle past the start point for cold and warm starts. Fuel delivery on these is an issue so it helps to raise the fuel tank to same elevation it would be in a boat (ie. 15 inches lower than motor). A spare starter rope to use on the flywheel will get you more bang for your buck than that recoil starter. Will save having to take a cordless drill along. Take care and may the the four be NOT with you anymore:)
Hey. Thanks for tuning in. Yeah I think it will be fine for as much use it's gonna get- Hahaha Thanks again !
Classic low compression.
Yep
Hey. Thanks for tuning in. "Classic" low comp is around 60 psi, well, in these parts anyway. It's at 80 even with about 5 hand pulls- maybe a little more using a drill. I did want to put new rings in it but unfortunately they are unavailable!!! Did find one set on ebay and they weren't cheap- Thanks again !
@@THISOLDOUTBOARD1If the piston groves are worn, even new rings won't help.much. Those engine lasted longer and ran better on 32:1 mix.
@@alberthafner2194actually the pistons looked new- there wasn't a mark on them- someone else said 40:1- were gonna start there
@@THISOLDOUTBOARD1 ok, I take it back. It’s just a stubborn one for sure. I enjoy watching your videos. I hated watching you struggle with this little guy. Thanks for the entertainment. Keep it up.
What plugs are you running? I put NGK plugs (BR6HS) in mine and haven’t had any issues. It seems to me you have to have the throttle advanced too far forward for it to start, which of course also advances the timing plate. I’m thinking those plugs aren’t putting out enough spark to light it off at the normal start position, and it needs help from a drill (or a strong young man).
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Right on Ern👍
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Try a mix of 40:1 might help with the cold starts by bumping up compression a hair!! Can't hurt might also help to protect it those 4hp run hot anyway!!
Hey. Thanks for tuning in. Sounds good- I'll tell Corey to do that- Thanks again !
I have a 2001 25hp Johnson that lean sneeze, so I have to turn out the slow speed need out 9 turns to get to smooth out, is that a sign of a lower seal going out? I rebuilt the carb 3-years ago.
Hey. Thanks for tuning in. Yeah 9 turns is way to much. if the seal was bad I don't think turning the needle out 9 turns would make a difference as it does. Carb probably isn't the problem but you may want to give it a good cleaning/inspection of needle/float. I would look at the primer pump first- set the carb at 1.5 to 2 full turns out and pinch off the primer pump fuel line to the carb- if the primer pump is leaking it will lean sneeze- fire it up and see what happens- if it's still sneezing check the fuel pump- the diaphragm may be leaking and fuel is getting sucked through the bypass cover- if it's still sneezing pull the carb- float needle may not be seating properly anymore and filling up with fuel- it's a stretch- it just becomes a process of elimination. check the easy stuff first! Curious to know what you find out. Thanks again !
@@THISOLDOUTBOARD1 Previously I cleaned the carb, sprayed the needle jet hole and mid-range air hole after removing screws. After I replaced the spark plugs which looked kind of nasty and the fuel filter which had been there for a few years. Test run it in my favorite trash can to warm up and got the needle down to 2.5 turns and set the low idle up a half turn, can't wait to go down to the river and see how it runs. I pinched the primer fuel line to the carb, and it didn't make a bit of difference how it ran. Thanks for having such great videos because I can't really afford a shop or a new outboard. By the way my river is the Mississippi pool 18 the Oquawka, Keithsburg area, a lot of water to fish and play in.
@@richardvarnold6245 sounds good!
I was always afraid to twist up too much
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Like a slinky
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Need to grind out some slots to put a rope in the harmonic balance so if you ever stuck you can put a rope on it 👌🧐
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Sometimes then pull starters are love of or life ❤
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I've used toothpicks to jam stuff up😂
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Most likely carbon ,I had outboards that did the same thing in the test barrel .
Hey. Thanks for tuning in! Yeah big pain in the azzzz! Hahaha Thanks again & Stay Tuned !
I just tore apart that exact motor only 1970. Got a powerhead sitting here if you want it. Cylinders look good.
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Really enjoy your video that helps me work on my old 2001 Johnson 25hp 2 stroke, really don't have the money for a new Mercury.
Hey. Thanks for tuning in. Yeah I know the feeling.
Our old shop foreman would not let any of the younger mechanics touch one of these %@#! 4hp starters. I said, "Show me how to do that." He said, "You don't want to know, and I don't want you to know. Now, give me a shot of whiskey." And then we'd hear some cussing, and it would be fixed.
Hahaha! LMAO! You get- BEST COMMENT OF THE YEAR AWARD! Thanks again & Stay tuned !
I tried to warn you! Those 4hp are nightmares, I won't take one for free! 😅
Hey. Thanks for tuning in! Yes- get it outta here! Hahaha Thanks again !
Another fine mess you got yourself in🤔
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Sorry to see the recoil be such a pain. Do you think a helicoli would fix? After all you've done to this little motor. It should be a good runner, but it just seems to be one thing after another.
Hey. Thanks for tuning in! Yeah helicoil should work- I didn't have the right size so I did a quick fix until we get some. Thanks again & Stay tuned !
Looks like a slinky from the 80's
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Hang in there bud. You're on the right track. Maybe some Teflon tape will help? Or rethreading the threads? (You may have to resize the bolt}. You have the patience of a saint on the other engines, I'm sure this one will not get the best of you. Im not crazy about weld putty, unless you can remove it later. Can't wait to see how it turns out!
Hey. Thanks for tuning in! Yeah a helicoil will fix it- I didn't have any that size but I did do a quick-fix- Stay tuned !
not familiar with that particular recoil starter set up but id venture to say you probably didnt wind the spring tight enough
Hey. Thanks for tuning in! Wow really- Hahaha! I think you hit the nail on the head! Thanks again & Stay tuned !
I say take your recoil starter and spring to a lawnmower shop, they'll have you fixed up in 5 minutes, they know the steps.
Hey. Thanks for tuning in! They wouldn't have done anything different- I used to work on mowers like I said. I did find out how its supposed to be done- unfortunately I didn't find out beforehand! Hahaha better late than never! Thanks again !
Real life saga baby! Haha man that sucks. Hope you get that hole fixed somehow. Not sure if JB will hold it at that spot. Looking forward to the next video
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God bless Americans in Red the rest we will pray fir ya, if we have time👊
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I stripped a 9.9 starter bolt I installed heli coil and its never failed
I second the heli-coil!
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Wondering if a few strips of thin wire in the mounting hole would hold the rewind bolt in place as you tighten it. Might save having to use jb weld or helicoil. Those rewinds were designed by a masochist.
Hey. Thanks for tuning in! They're actually very ingenious- once you know the real way to to do it. I finally found out- better late than never! Thanks again !
Yep. A clever design to save space but one pull of the starter rope gives less than one revolution of the flywheel so timing and points need to be bang on. Found out the proper way after getting an omc service manual.
@@marksmith9295 the magic words- service manual ! Thx
What a nightmare you need a heli coil
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worst feeling in the world when that damn bolt just keeps spinning!!!! lol
that or the final CRACK when you overtighten something haha
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Use a c clamp to hold it together, rope it around the pulley to take up the slack, maybe that will work better
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Heilcoil time
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