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  • @MushKinPuff
    @MushKinPuffСағат бұрын

    Why didn’t you mention Nebula

  • @dhararry7929
    @dhararry79292 сағат бұрын

    Between Patreon and Nebula, there's no good reason to do this.

  • @Fidunks
    @Fidunks2 сағат бұрын

    love that everyone has now just accepted that 'the apology couch' is common terminology

  • @bubzy3d50
    @bubzy3d505 сағат бұрын

    You know what's really funny to me, Watcher and Try Guys would probably fit in really well on Dropout, like surely it would have been more financially viable for them to make deals with Dropout. Make a show or two for Dropout, help them grow their subscriptions a bit and then slowly move over to the platform entirely, dropout gets more subscribers, Watcher and Try Guys get a more stable platform and we all get more content for a fairer price

  • @courtneyevie
    @courtneyevie6 сағат бұрын

    my prediction: between halving the number of members in less than two years and this whole streaming service push that's 100% just gonna be a money waster, i bet the try guys will break up by the end of the year.

  • @Sommervillle
    @Sommervillle7 сағат бұрын

    They are just changing shit for the sake of it. It’s awful.

  • @ChaosRayZero
    @ChaosRayZero7 сағат бұрын

    6:53 Let's be real, some people might actually pay for that if it included *your otamatone content* too. 😏

  • @GSully
    @GSully7 сағат бұрын

    CHECK OUT MY NEW STREAMING PLATFORM www.sullyg.tv

  • @rdgfb
    @rdgfb7 сағат бұрын

    man actually made a website just to tell people to touch grass LOL

  • @da_real_bup
    @da_real_bup5 сағат бұрын

    I appreciate the commitment lmao

  • @jamesoniris2647
    @jamesoniris26475 сағат бұрын

    I was so hoping it would reroute me to a rickroll

  • @demongirlfriend
    @demongirlfriend7 сағат бұрын

    the reason that Dropout succeeded was that everything was done 100% earnestly and for the sake of the media they produce, not in a cheap attempt to gain more monthly revenue

  • @ChaosRayZero
    @ChaosRayZero7 сағат бұрын

    6:39 I just counted. *Only 39 of my subscriptions have posted a video in the last year, (2 of those being YOU).* 😁 That means my bill at max would be around $190 a month ($2,280 a year, assuming no discounts for "annual bundles" or something like that). 😋

  • @tmntleo
    @tmntleo7 сағат бұрын

    I honestly thought Critical Role was gonna be in this because they've basically just announced their own streaming service. I can't afford to pay for any of these services, so when someone I watch announces they're starting one and they're not gonna be uploading to KZread I'm just like "Whelp, bye then" and unsub.

  • @MeepsNcheese
    @MeepsNcheese7 сағат бұрын

    Cautiously staring at Smosh 🗿

  • @IAARPOTI
    @IAARPOTI6 сағат бұрын

    Fair but not all the contents are locked behind the paywalls. You can still watch Smosh , Smosh pit , Smosh games, Smosh cast.

  • @MeepsNcheese
    @MeepsNcheese4 сағат бұрын

    @@IAARPOTI More in the sense that I fear they'd switch to this model. I'm very much enjoying what I'm getting so far!

  • @IAARPOTI
    @IAARPOTI4 сағат бұрын

    @@MeepsNcheese once they did that, their business will on the graveyard. They would never dig their own grave. Especially around defy age. They fought back so hard that they aren't letting their second chance goes wasted.

  • @Suisalty
    @Suisalty8 сағат бұрын

    as I've heard others say, you can take a person out of buzzfeed, but you can't take buzzfeed out of the person

  • @ManikFerret
    @ManikFerret8 сағат бұрын

    Corridor has been the only youtube channel i have paid for a subscription because of how they do it the content has exclusive bts and things that cant be shown on youtube like nsfw or copyrighted music for 2 seconds in the youtube release and they actually nake you feel like you get something as they make short films with high production value. The try guys and these others have no true reason to have a subscription model. Who wants to pay monthly to watch a try guy eat food for 10 minutes?

  • @vaderman212
    @vaderman2128 сағат бұрын

    Sully, why did you appear in my sub feed and ask for $60? You know I'm broke, why did you have to call me a cheapskate?

  • @robertschnobert9090
    @robertschnobert90908 сағат бұрын

    You sound a little bit like ambiguous amphibian but with less ennui 🌈

  • @NeonPink-lj9qq
    @NeonPink-lj9qq8 сағат бұрын

    The dumb thing is like...there isn't a single creator or type of video that I would pay money for that gets posted to KZread. I watch for low effort content, if I wanted good content worth paying for I'd just watch cable or something

  • @jocelynbaker6718
    @jocelynbaker67188 сағат бұрын

    I may be the only one with this perspective, but for a number of years now I've been a big fan of Dropout and the potential Dropoutification/Studioification of KZread channels. This is all to say with so many large studios merging and more and more movies and TV shoes being pumped out and left to die in the ocean of content that is Netflix/Disney+/Prime, we're losing the great lower/mid-budget media that might appeal to a smaller audience but has tons of merit but just isn't being made. These smaller streamers that don't have the overhead or expectations of tranditional movie studios (unlike other studios-turned-streamers like Paramount) can try out all these new and innovative things and cater to a smaller audience. Sure, it's possible to do amazing things on KZread alone - just look at Joel Haver and his work this year - but to be able to employ a large number of people and, more importantly, compensate everyone (regardless of the size of the team) for their labour, it seems like alternate funding models are necessary. For channels that don't aspire to become mini studios, like most of those which offer memberships/Patreon (which I see as more of support for creators than studio monetization), KZread with Patreon and Nebula is great. But for those that do, and produce quality shows people are willing to pay for, subscriptions seem like a great option to me. Yes, they do remove some of the free content, but Dropout's example of still offering a significant amount of content for free seems like a good example I hope future creators follow, as the Try Guys are (potentially even moreso). I think this is where I see the biggest difference between Dropout and 2ndTry and Watcher - the first two had a proven track record of making new show concepts and executing on them. On the other hand, Watcher has only really done a small number of shows for years and years which aren't very innovative or are just remakes of shows from their Buzzfeed era. While it's definitely true that the announcement played a big part in the differing responses as well, it's hard to ignore the fact that people are just less willing to pay for that kind of content in the same way they're not willing to pay for streaming services that don't offer new shows they want to watch, even if they have a great back catalogue (see: Peacock).

  • @jeremy5491
    @jeremy54918 сағат бұрын

    I like the Try Guys, but this is a mistake. Dropout was a fluke (and I do subscribe to Dropout). A great fluke, but a fluke. They are not going to get hundreds of thousands of subscribers. Their Patreon (which I once gave to) has maybe 2500.

  • @pixeltaku
    @pixeltaku8 сағат бұрын

    I can’t wait for a future when these new subscription services shut down and end up just licensing their content to other platforms, hopefully either Dropout or Nebula to really make a point lmao

  • @JakeTheL3mur
    @JakeTheL3mur8 сағат бұрын

    sully can you do another video on the friday night funkin update that realease like a week after your last one?

  • @L1v1ngDeAdGirl
    @L1v1ngDeAdGirl9 сағат бұрын

    There are a lot of KZreadrs I like and if I was some kinda millionaire I'd gladly support. But even ignoring money, I'm not going to go to a whole separate website just for a single KZreadr. I watch KZread mostly on my TV so I'd have to use my phone which is a no that kd for me. I'm already sick of every KZreadr having a patreon (or similar) so having a subscription service for individual accounts is awful. I just miss when KZread was about having fun and just uploading whatever, not trying to earn maximum revenue 24/7.

  • @genericname2747
    @genericname27479 сағат бұрын

    Tryguys: Haha I hope our fans like our streaming service announcement. Wait, what's happening with Watcher? OH GOD QUICK WE NEED TO TELL THEM WE'RE NOT LEAVING

  • @vicbaez
    @vicbaez9 сағат бұрын

    Isn't one of the try guys already on watcher?

  • @DistinguishedPotato
    @DistinguishedPotato9 сағат бұрын

    gone from making own websites, to youtube, back to own websites

  • @wild.angelo
    @wild.angelo9 сағат бұрын

    (To be honest) with the try guys interview with anthony padilla Zach did mention them talking to sam about how to manage their streaming service... but the iphone thing was something i never catched on to.

  • @henry_alphonse
    @henry_alphonse9 сағат бұрын

    This might be a hot take but as someone who likely won't ever subscribe to any of these platforms, I do still get why they're doing it. The Try Guys have explained on their podcast and other places that constantly trying to appease the youtube algorithm in order to stay afloat financially forced them to start making content they weren't proud of, that made them lose interest, and that ultimately wasn't entertaining to their actual subscribers. They realized they had to either continue doing that and get burnt out, make the content they want to make on youtube but lose to the algorithm and eventually go out of business, or make a subscription platform. Now, I hadn't actually really noticed that detail you mentioned about their announcement video and if their plan was to keep everything locked behind a paywall like Watcher, that would be really tone-deaf, no excuse there, but ultimately it doesn't seem like they're making this platform to get more money to become rich, but rather to be able to stay afloat at all. This might be wrong but I do think most of their expansions happened before their views started to drop (mainly due to a certain event) and so it's not that they've expanded more than they can afford and have to compensate to avoid layoffs. Missing out on some exclusives definitely sucks but I get needing more of an incentive to get people to subscribe, and if it means better content (of which I'm still getting a majority of for free on youtube, even if it's a little later) I'm all for it and hope they can make what they love now thanks to this.

  • @LyfeOnline
    @LyfeOnline2 сағат бұрын

    I agree with your take, and it does make a lot of finacial and business sense.

  • @humbleviewpoint
    @humbleviewpoint9 сағат бұрын

    You may already know: I added the "Enhancer for KZread" and it pretty much fixed it. I agree with your opinion but I am back to happy except before the update I had 6 thumbnails across each row. Now I have four. I have searched and searched to no avail. If you find out how to change the number of thumbnails, please make a vid.

  • @megatronskneecap
    @megatronskneecap10 сағат бұрын

    They really spent a year searching for a porno background song 🤦‍♂

  • @Talia_Arts
    @Talia_Arts10 сағат бұрын

    for me the best thing which has been done like this is nebula, people still upload to youtube but upload some nebula exclusive stuff. also its not just one person, its a whole platform with a bunch of people

  • @Wintergael127
    @Wintergael12710 сағат бұрын

    the indifferent cruelty of subscription models vs the indomitable spirit of qbittorrent

  • @Kwiatkovv
    @Kwiatkovv11 сағат бұрын

    I think this is funny, but like the kind of funny where you make fun of dumb people for thinking about money too much. I can get the idea of wanting to get money and the monkey brain going "ooh they made thing using this thing, I should use the thing to do the same it will totally work!!!!1!" but god damn do they not see "locking everything we got behind a paywall" as one of the worst ideas you can have? oh you enjoy our free water? we changed it so you have to buy a monthly membership to get "FREE" water

  • @royearle1673
    @royearle167311 сағат бұрын

    Oof, yeah, the whole thing with watcher entertainment was recieved about as well as interupting a funeral to defecate into the coffin. Lost a lot of respect for the ghoul boys that day. Edit: fun fact, the domain "tv" does not stand for "television", it stands for "Tuvalu".

  • @VoidzZer
    @VoidzZer11 сағат бұрын

    To add onto the whole subscription thing: if I remember correctly, Dropout gave out many many codes and discounts when they were launching their own service. They were also transparent about prices rising in the future I believe as well.

  • @placeholderdoe
    @placeholderdoe11 сағат бұрын

    Plus when dropout launched it was purely ADDITIVE. Dropout laughed with 9 new shows and the regular KZread uploads continued for over a year. And now they don’t take down fan clips/fan animations, which allows a lot of community interaction and discoverability

  • @placeholderdoe
    @placeholderdoe11 сағат бұрын

    Plus dropout has SO. MANY. SHOWS. so if you like their content you’ll pretty much never have nothing to watch. But since it’s not story based shows you never feel the analysis paralysis that Netflix or other services give you

  • @sentimentalexis
    @sentimentalexis11 сағат бұрын

    @@placeholderdoe I'm also fairly sure Sam has gone on record saying it's totally chill to password share your Dropout account?

  • @greenguyz
    @greenguyz10 сағат бұрын

    @@sentimentalexisyep when the netflix crackdown on password sharing happened he tweeted encouraging people to share their dropout accounts with friends and family

  • @ChronoCommander
    @ChronoCommander11 сағат бұрын

    Something to note, is that even Dropout isn’t original. They are just parodying Nebula.

  • @hyperhero2
    @hyperhero29 сағат бұрын

    Wrong. Dropout launched on September 2018, Nebula on May 2019. If anything, Nebula is parodying Dropout.

  • @RatMan818
    @RatMan81811 сағат бұрын

    I’ve never heard of them and will obviously never care about them

  • @da_real_bup
    @da_real_bup5 сағат бұрын

    Thanks for sharing, I hope your time on this planet is as invaluable as this comment :)

  • @hatcher365
    @hatcher36511 сағат бұрын

    for you "plagarizing" hbomberguy you aren't. you're crediting them

  • @invisiblenutmeg
    @invisiblenutmeg11 сағат бұрын

    Cant wait for the ottomatone subscription service

  • @CheesyLizzy
    @CheesyLizzy11 сағат бұрын

    6:12 Nah you got all the charisma. I love your videos 😄

  • @MrThomas20121
    @MrThomas2012111 сағат бұрын

    I don't understand why youtubers don't just join nebula. It was literally made by creators for creators

  • @placeholderdoe
    @placeholderdoe11 сағат бұрын

    Maybe nebula didn’t allow them to. Can’t let just anybody in maybe

  • @thepancakereviewer
    @thepancakereviewer8 сағат бұрын

    I feel like Nebula is more for educational content, like Video essays and stuff

  • @Slymeball
    @Slymeball8 сағат бұрын

    ​@@thepancakereviewerHaven't really watched Watcher's stuff, but from what I've heard, they'd fit in well there.

  • @zachellenburg5738
    @zachellenburg5738Сағат бұрын

    @@Slymeball Not every creator would fit tho. Nebula’s goal seems to be more related to education, while it seems like most KZreadrs produce entertainment.

  • @Tbug20
    @Tbug2011 сағат бұрын

    Honestly, I’m surprised you didn’t bring up Nebula here.

  • @SodorTimesToday
    @SodorTimesToday11 сағат бұрын

    In the beginning he said services for 1 specific channel. Nebula is a big group of creators

  • @Tbug20
    @Tbug2011 сағат бұрын

    @@SodorTimesToday True, Nebula is a bit different to what he’s talking about, but I thought he’d at least mention it

  • @noahthespike
    @noahthespike12 сағат бұрын

    The only time I've seen a streaming service from a channel done right firsthand is Trilogy Media. They have both paid and free options, but most of the content by itself is free just so there's not a censorship wall protecting scammers. The paid content is mostly miscellaneous or an uncut interview from a scam victim or something. It's all done well. That said, I wish more channels did it right like Trilogy Media.

  • @RatMan818
    @RatMan81811 сағат бұрын

    Womp womp

  • @da_real_bup
    @da_real_bup5 сағат бұрын

    ​@@RatMan818you're fun aren't you? I'm sure everyone loves your truly exquisite humor

  • @RocketDoesStuff
    @RocketDoesStuff12 сағат бұрын

    I genuinely don't think there's a single KZreadr that I'd be willing to pay a monthly subscription fee for. That's not to say I don't have KZreadrs I like, but with something like Netflix, you're getting a wide variety of content with tons of styles, voices, and genres; if it's just one KZreadr, you're only getting one thing. I'd be way more interested in a service where multiple KZreadrs come together (which I know exists with stuff like Nebula) than a single service for one person/group

  • @RatMan818
    @RatMan81811 сағат бұрын

    Womp womp

  • @Debugboy
    @Debugboy11 сағат бұрын

    I agree Rocket

  • @robbieramsey3092
    @robbieramsey309211 сағат бұрын

    @@RatMan818 how are you gonna misspell something that you just spelled right

  • @jmvr
    @jmvr8 сағат бұрын

    That's partly why I don't pay for Patreon and the like. I'd want a variety of stuff, and paying $5+ for each person I want to support would cost way too much.

  • @EddieBurke
    @EddieBurke4 сағат бұрын

    I give Smosh 5 bucks a month but it’s not really that much more content. It’s BTS for main channel videos. I do it because I really love Smosh and the content they produce + I enjoy the fact they’re willing to put it out for free.

  • @BrickTsar
    @BrickTsar12 сағат бұрын

    They can promote rocket money so people can pay a subscription service to cancel their subscription

  • @Sirlopsteropster
    @Sirlopsteropster12 сағат бұрын

    whats that join button Sully Join this channel Get access to membership perks 🙁

  • @FredLootLlama123
    @FredLootLlama12312 сағат бұрын

    Dropout is actually really good there is loads of free content that they make and the content that they make only on dropout is super high quality and also they encourage password sharing

  • @Theallmarmightyone.
    @Theallmarmightyone.12 сағат бұрын

    Where’s the fnf update video?

  • @twotruckslyrics
    @twotruckslyrics12 сағат бұрын

    there is onee :)

  • @KGBSpyGeorgeCostanza
    @KGBSpyGeorgeCostanza12 сағат бұрын

    KZread can be a pain in the pooper, especially when it comes to creative control, ya gotta think big about it