This is why British soldiers are so relaxed in crisis situations
@Steve-st5jiАй бұрын
This is of course 'Tin City!' I did Civ pop & then Nitat training there in 88. I was a Corporal at the time & in charge of a section. I was shitting myself through most of the training but managed to blag myself through it. We were Tankies. We had the worst OC at the time, he was a twat. After we had completed our training it was 'piss up' time. He dragged us out of our pits & bollocked us for no reason?! When we eventually got to NI all he could manage was make us fill sandbags. Not that I'm bitter? Civ pop was hilarious, managed to smuggle an SMG past the troops. Fish & Chips, pubs & then onto battle. Killymurphy bricks.
@gcrockford8191Ай бұрын
The Porn tash alive and well in this
@Mechanical_Turk2 ай бұрын
Fun Fact: This wasn't an actual BAOR training video, but a mockumentary lampooning British officers. It was based on a script by John Cleese, but after two years in development hell and multiple rewrites, it lost some of its humor and subtlety. It was considered a flop, as audiences simply couldn't be fooled into thinking that this was what World War III would look like on the Central Front.
@milotura68282 ай бұрын
Guys i think we are forgetting the Russian army in Ukraine is VERY FUCKING different from its Prime as the Soviets
@mole3893 ай бұрын
1 magazine a bit parsimonious
@Roddy5563 ай бұрын
Interesting mine clearing technique
@StandUpAgainstStaziStarmer3 ай бұрын
A colonel giving a set of orders to Corporals, shouldn't Platoon Commanders got their orders from him and they in turn would have gave a set to their Section Commanders.
@4002corbe3 ай бұрын
Issue Tissue …. same detail but with a pair of Danners, windproof, trop-trousers and a Berghuas Munro. Those were the days ….
@cowgoesmoo24 ай бұрын
underrated channel
@user-mx2sv1xq2i6 ай бұрын
Хорошее кино по тактике стран НАТО. Однако показаны только действия разведки и начала атаки Армии СА. Далее выявление всех огневых точек, их уничтожение, контрбатарейная борьба, применение химических и бактериологических веществ и на самой вершине тактического ядерного взрыва!!! 😂😂😂😂 В общем мало там всем не покажется... 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@user-pi4kf9uw3m6 ай бұрын
6:15
@ianmangham45707 ай бұрын
Total trip ,its crazy thinking we're all OLD now 😅 , total trip ,rip 🙏 all who left the party 🥳 early 🌎 , bricks and sangars 🇬🇧🤠🤟
@decimated5508 ай бұрын
One thing I think is missing from these staged battles is the what I would assume would be a nearly constant suppressive machine gun fire tank and APC and IFV coaxial weapons. They would be drenching the entire landscape and hillsides and any potential targets with machine gun fire that would be hard to simulate in the simulated combats done by live forces just the same way artillery is not easily simulated when you're doing maneuvers
@thecoolestofthe834s26 ай бұрын
Yeah but this isn't battlefield 4 you don't supress an area like that irl specially if you don't know if your rear line depots get nuked with in an hour or not
@decimated5508 ай бұрын
10:15 what funny weapon is that which fires a anti-tank projectile but which recoil is backward in a seeming uncontrolled manner?
@frangiblecover63507 ай бұрын
MILAN anti-tank guided missile. The missile goes out the front of the disposable tube, the tube goes out the back and the tripod and guidance systems stay still. Then you can whack a new tube on and go again.
@decimated5507 ай бұрын
@@frangiblecover6350thanks for explaining! british always have enginnering which seems odd to me. like the lightning fighter point with the two stacked engines.
@frangiblecover63507 ай бұрын
@@decimated550 it's a Franco-German job actually, the Euromissile consortium. Britain was a big customer for it though, MILAN was the primary anti-tank weapon of the infantry battalion from the late 70s to the early 00s. You're not wrong about the weird engineering though, MILAN was supplemented by Swingfire, a British missile that used thrust vectoring to allow you to fire it around corners.
@simonh63716 ай бұрын
@@frangiblecover6350 You beat me to it. MILAN stands for Missile Infanterie Legere Anti-Char which translates to ''Light (!) anti-tank infantry missile''.
@kevinwaterfield74009 ай бұрын
I like how they were taking the knee, way before their time
@theloniuspunk3839 ай бұрын
Look at these cucks lol great job
@johnorlitta9 ай бұрын
Sounds like someone said Blyat! at 16:35
@A-fckng-nobody6 ай бұрын
Перед - peryot as pronounced, means forward
@johnorlitta6 ай бұрын
@@A-fckng-nobodyThanks!
@dcpugh9 ай бұрын
Fascinating video on the one hand, but it seems unrealistic ... someone would have fired some nukes by about 3:00 into the clip.
@theromanorder Жыл бұрын
8:10 being patrol
@Greekmilsim Жыл бұрын
Propaganda .Soviets were not idiots to open in open field with exposed dismounted infantry
@Mechanized8510 ай бұрын
According to their doctrines, the Soviets would send their reconnaissance units to probe and locate the enemy, aiming to mark them down and suppress them with their own fire support. Regardless of the success of these efforts, they would push forward with mass numbers, forming attacking formations and closing in on dismounted infantry. They would sustain their attack while receiving support from automatic grenade launchers (AGL) and general-purpose machine guns (GPMG) provided by their weapon company. However, if the battle plan was flawed, intelligence unreliable, reconnaissance ineffective, or the information gathering was insufficient, with few or messy details that hindered proper identification, even without the advantage on their side, don't think their foolish opponents, they would know how to counter their attacking style and react accordingly, Thus, the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact can lose battles. There may be situations where retreat is not an option, although there could be circumstances where they fall back. Even if a glorious victory is achieved, there will undoubtedly be a heavy price for losses. The reality of the battlefield is incredibly complex, messy, and filled with confusion and surprises. Let us not forget the fog of war. While the video may sound like propaganda or nonsense, it is still better than individuals on the internet proclaiming with certainty which side is winning or losing. War does not operate in such a simplistic manner. It is a multifaceted and intricate phenomenon that involves numerous factors. All I know, it's important to approach matters with care, using examples and references to examine and simulate scenarios. Whether you choose to believe it or not, or just keep blindly believing everything should consider it as propaganda or misinformation, feel free to proceed. you can end up creating your version of misinformation and falsehoods, meanwhile, you don't even understand their doctrines. that's all is it.
@Weblima7 ай бұрын
The infantry was not unprotected It was under the support of tanks and APCs as said in the video , What I don't understand is that this support from tanks was never shown, bad video. Infantry must form a line during the attack and maintain suppressive fire constantly.None of this was shown. Furthermore, the troops who cut the wires must be protected with their colleagues lying down or behind the armored personnel carriers, or tanks
@sheriff0017 Жыл бұрын
Whenever I go to the shops, I hard target out of the driveway.
@LaHayeSaint Жыл бұрын
Why was a Cpl leading a Recce Ptl for a Bn FUP? Where were the Officers? Mind you, the Cpl seemed to be highly experienced and knew what he was about. Running into an enemy minefield would freak me out!
@Closedgroove Жыл бұрын
They wouldve been been given a bloody nose...look how pathetic russia was in the Ukraine! Their tactics haven't changed!!! 😂 we had 3 days to hold em up...and i think we would've achieved that. 😊 yes, heavy casualties maybe but we had everything to fight for😉
@squid636810 ай бұрын
but the have though? do you really think the modern russian army (who im not a fan of, to put it lightly) are using the same tactics as 40 years ago? thats silly and disingenuous
@simonh63716 ай бұрын
Lol that aged well. Now the narrative is that they can invade the UK and we need to conscript our zoomers lol. Truth is the first casualty of war. Neither side is ever going to tell the truth during wartime or even during a cold war, they're not bloody eejits. Fyi I was in an Inf Bn in 1988, it was TA but 1/4 of 1 (Br) Corps i.e. the British army units whose job it was to go and fight the Sovs if it kicked was - 2 Inf Div were TA, 1, 3 & 4 Armoured Divs were regulars, based in Germany. Our job was to stop the Sovs breaking through the Minden Gap. They told us that in the event our battalion's life expectancy was 20 minutes. It has since emerged that had they broken through, within a matter of hours the US would have had to deploy tactical (i.e. manpack) nukes to stop the Sovs, that's how much we were outnumbered.
@Sidney1WG Жыл бұрын
Those daysacks! Put any decent weight into them and they cut your shoulders to bits. They were awful. But I don't think anyone who has served could say that they don't miss this shit. Good old days lads.
@jackmcnally9237 Жыл бұрын
These 😂merciless bastards are always in place !. Do remember that these cunts are out to harm you personally 😂and individually 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
@bryanprice9539 Жыл бұрын
Blimey, that takes me back! Remember it like it was yesterday. I wonder how today's generation of young soldiers would adapt their experience in Afghanistan, to doing this sort of thing in the British isles...
@rdjhardy Жыл бұрын
Now that's a proper colour DPM.
@glennwall552 Жыл бұрын
Must say desperately cheap housing one bullet could go through many before stopping. Then wooden fences you be in trouble if nasties where about.
@redhen2123 Жыл бұрын
20:00 "And don't be afraid to use civilians as cover." WTF?
@nicklittle7168 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely put them in front of you and you crouch down, makes sense. You are harder to hit.
@davidthefirst6195 Жыл бұрын
Aw sweet memories of the NITAT training pre tour It was always fun doing civi pop in tin town
@moredistractions Жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to know how long and to what effect formal military operations could have carried on had there been a complete nuclear exchange as was predicted for WWIII. If the major cities, bases, industry, infrastructure, etc. were destroyed by nuclear bombardment, one might surmise that at some stage effective combat units would cease to exist. The vehicles would stop running, supplies would run out, command and control would disintegrate, etc. Sheer survival alone might become the soldier's only remaining objective. I wonder how the NATO and Warsaw Pact leadership anticipated this and what their expectations were in such a scenario.
@fiendish679 ай бұрын
That's what I was just thinking; how long before the tactical nukes were deployed? My "guestemation" would be less than 8 days, until a cease fire or then limited barrage of strategic nuclear missiles.
@moredistractions9 ай бұрын
@@fiendish67 I think it would have been almost all at once from the very get go. Once the shooting started, the high-level commanders would have decided that they must act with full force immediately to claim the initiative. They probably would have kept a small percentage of their nukes (onboard submarines, etc.) in reserve for round two but most of the developed world would have been flattened within about 48 hours I would guess. It's a fiendish scenario. Thank God it never happened...or hasn't happened yet anyway.
@fiendish679 ай бұрын
@@moredistractions Maybe?
@decimated5507 ай бұрын
@@moredistractionsMy guess is that the Soviets could have made a big conventional push into Europe with massive forces that NATO forces would not have been able to completely defeat. . And been too afraid to fire nukes
@thecoolestofthe834s26 ай бұрын
@@decimated550 yeah they also would have opened up with an nbc suite over the boarder like viruss chems and everything then nato launches
@karlp8484 Жыл бұрын
It's great how the British Army can adapt to changing circumstances. Fluid.
@Oscarhobbit Жыл бұрын
I used to watch the Army patrols as a kid in Northern Ireland. I was mesmerized at how they used to move. It was just normal, back then to see the Army on the street. I was never afraid of them because neither I nor my family had anything to hide. We always felt sorry for these young men, far away from home in a place where a lot of the people hated them. Later, I worked for the government for fourteen years and found out what it was like to be spat on, called an "Orange B*****d" and a "Brit", I had urine thrown at me, rotten eggs and a firework shot at me from a plastic pipe like a bosoka. My house and car were acid bombed and I was threatened by a terrorist organisation. These were terrible days and sad to say that the sectarian hate in Ireland has not gone away it is still lurking just under the surface both in the North and the South of Ireland.
@micoolkidfilms3270 Жыл бұрын
It could’ve been worse, luckily the irish government had sensible individuals in the cabinet at the time so they didn’t invade NI
@HamishBanish11 ай бұрын
.. but mot of the people wanted them there... Important point. Most of the people WANTED US PATROLLING MOST OF THE POPULATION WANTED US PATROLLLING
@theloniuspunk3839 ай бұрын
There was a reason why people hated you
@gagasmancave8859 Жыл бұрын
Did a couple of tours in tin City lol plus one in W Belfast. I do not remember us having kids when we did civil pop
@scottjoseph9821 Жыл бұрын
I think this might of been called tin City. That was one place they used before sending troops to that shithole
@MichaelKng-fk5jk Жыл бұрын
Never had ANY of the additional kit, totally balls. We went out as we were. Lucky to have more the 1 dressing, we had morphine. Honestly we had basic kit, as of Malaya. He thought were ok though. Sight setting, totally against SOPs and the Yellow Card. We really never had cover, apart from parallels. Subsequent tours, the infantry never wanted to provide cover to Signals troops, they did but, worthlessly. In S Armagh and E Tyrone we never wanted infantry cover as it was pointless. Depending on unit and time on tour they were often restrictive on their protection. Black Watch were certainly different, loved those boys. Queen's Company in XMG were more interested on their reds for the next job, they were adverse to any patrol. At the time we, 3 Bde didn't like ground cover. In 4 days, we went up every day and night, mg attacks every time, we had a job. Queen's Company, stayed inside XMG apart from when we did the Sq Sanger, well second time. There's a huge difference in prospective, some units are not the same
@Taffwildmanofthewoods Жыл бұрын
This video takes me back especially the ropey intro tune. The narration on many of these types of videos was done by the same bloke. I can remember in the mid 80s patrolling in combats because lightweight trousers were prone to melting if petrol bombed and the INIBA jackets were in use. Enjoyed my time in Ireland plenty of tea stops.
@madgeordie4469 Жыл бұрын
Having the weapon sights set for 200m makes sense in an urban environment but at that range a round from an SLR could go through a brick wall and still kill two people on the other side.
@jollyjohnzz Жыл бұрын
Brings it all back.
@whitelinefever8769 Жыл бұрын
'should be smart and well turned out, this helps to instill confidence in themselves and impress the local people with their professionalism'...todays police force/service etc could do with a bit of this
@markdavids2511 Жыл бұрын
The problem in Belfast was a round from an SLR could go through a house wall.
@dondouglass6415 Жыл бұрын
I thought it was tin city in Sennalager. I was there in 81...jesus... So long ago. 😮
@matthewrowe9903 Жыл бұрын
is it just me or is the L1A1 SLR with an optic just epic ?
@Demun1649 Жыл бұрын
It is just you. Go and get some help.
@limeydavey Жыл бұрын
SUIT (sight unit infatry trilux)
@stevenpremmel4116 Жыл бұрын
Weren't the optics a bit crap and prone to misting internally?
@Demun1649 Жыл бұрын
@@stevenpremmel4116 Not when shooting at unarmed civilians.
@jambo28 Жыл бұрын
@@Demun1649 do you think thats all the british army did in northen ireland? are you aware of the kind of war that was fought? do you think the IRA ran around in uniform?
@peterstubbs5934 Жыл бұрын
Who puts the sling on the stock attachment point? If they wrestle the rifle away from you, it will naturally point directly back at you. Boom, one dead squaddie. My unit, 2 Para, attached the sling to the weapon butt so in the same situation, if they got the weapon away from you, it naturally pointed at THEM. boom, dead terrorist.
@craigcooknf Жыл бұрын
A coworker of mine in the early 90s, Mary, was from Northern Ireland. She was a sweetheart but tough as nails. A bomb went off in Bishops(?) while I was in London over the weekend. I heard the blast and left amongst the chaos afterwards. I was checked by police twice. I was nowhere near the site but must have been within some radius. I remember dust and bits of paper falling down like snow. When I saw her on Monday she just laughed and said "Yer notta vergen no more!".
@fasteddie406 Жыл бұрын
The music on these Army videos was always the same, just hearing it I picture my recruitment office.
@danielmarshall4587 Жыл бұрын
"one or two Yobos on street corners" .........I say how jolly unpleasant. Silly comment aside, THANK YOU for posting this film, very interesting, FOURTY YEARS OLD boy oh boy.
@Highland_Moo Жыл бұрын
Seeing that poor guy who was injured after stepping on a mine. I knew a guy called Darby Allen who was a retired Royal Navy EOD diver and he was killed when working for a charity that cleared mines. I was 19 in 1997 and living in the Scottish highlands totally oblivious to the horrendous things happening in Bosnia. I had friends who joined the Army from school and one was Kinnon Ragni - he served in the Middle East and survived that only to be murdered by some scumbag outside a nightclub…..Kinnon had nothing to do with the scumbag either. He was there with a group of mates and the murdering b-stard had been kicked out and returned to cause trouble. He had it in for the army boys and stabbed Kinnon.
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How were the aks and uniforms acquired?
This is why British soldiers are so relaxed in crisis situations
This is of course 'Tin City!' I did Civ pop & then Nitat training there in 88. I was a Corporal at the time & in charge of a section. I was shitting myself through most of the training but managed to blag myself through it. We were Tankies. We had the worst OC at the time, he was a twat. After we had completed our training it was 'piss up' time. He dragged us out of our pits & bollocked us for no reason?! When we eventually got to NI all he could manage was make us fill sandbags. Not that I'm bitter? Civ pop was hilarious, managed to smuggle an SMG past the troops. Fish & Chips, pubs & then onto battle. Killymurphy bricks.
The Porn tash alive and well in this
Fun Fact: This wasn't an actual BAOR training video, but a mockumentary lampooning British officers. It was based on a script by John Cleese, but after two years in development hell and multiple rewrites, it lost some of its humor and subtlety. It was considered a flop, as audiences simply couldn't be fooled into thinking that this was what World War III would look like on the Central Front.
Guys i think we are forgetting the Russian army in Ukraine is VERY FUCKING different from its Prime as the Soviets
1 magazine a bit parsimonious
Interesting mine clearing technique
A colonel giving a set of orders to Corporals, shouldn't Platoon Commanders got their orders from him and they in turn would have gave a set to their Section Commanders.
Issue Tissue …. same detail but with a pair of Danners, windproof, trop-trousers and a Berghuas Munro. Those were the days ….
underrated channel
Хорошее кино по тактике стран НАТО. Однако показаны только действия разведки и начала атаки Армии СА. Далее выявление всех огневых точек, их уничтожение, контрбатарейная борьба, применение химических и бактериологических веществ и на самой вершине тактического ядерного взрыва!!! 😂😂😂😂 В общем мало там всем не покажется... 🤣🤣🤣🤣
6:15
Total trip ,its crazy thinking we're all OLD now 😅 , total trip ,rip 🙏 all who left the party 🥳 early 🌎 , bricks and sangars 🇬🇧🤠🤟
One thing I think is missing from these staged battles is the what I would assume would be a nearly constant suppressive machine gun fire tank and APC and IFV coaxial weapons. They would be drenching the entire landscape and hillsides and any potential targets with machine gun fire that would be hard to simulate in the simulated combats done by live forces just the same way artillery is not easily simulated when you're doing maneuvers
Yeah but this isn't battlefield 4 you don't supress an area like that irl specially if you don't know if your rear line depots get nuked with in an hour or not
10:15 what funny weapon is that which fires a anti-tank projectile but which recoil is backward in a seeming uncontrolled manner?
MILAN anti-tank guided missile. The missile goes out the front of the disposable tube, the tube goes out the back and the tripod and guidance systems stay still. Then you can whack a new tube on and go again.
@@frangiblecover6350thanks for explaining! british always have enginnering which seems odd to me. like the lightning fighter point with the two stacked engines.
@@decimated550 it's a Franco-German job actually, the Euromissile consortium. Britain was a big customer for it though, MILAN was the primary anti-tank weapon of the infantry battalion from the late 70s to the early 00s. You're not wrong about the weird engineering though, MILAN was supplemented by Swingfire, a British missile that used thrust vectoring to allow you to fire it around corners.
@@frangiblecover6350 You beat me to it. MILAN stands for Missile Infanterie Legere Anti-Char which translates to ''Light (!) anti-tank infantry missile''.
I like how they were taking the knee, way before their time
Look at these cucks lol great job
Sounds like someone said Blyat! at 16:35
Перед - peryot as pronounced, means forward
@@A-fckng-nobodyThanks!
Fascinating video on the one hand, but it seems unrealistic ... someone would have fired some nukes by about 3:00 into the clip.
8:10 being patrol
Propaganda .Soviets were not idiots to open in open field with exposed dismounted infantry
According to their doctrines, the Soviets would send their reconnaissance units to probe and locate the enemy, aiming to mark them down and suppress them with their own fire support. Regardless of the success of these efforts, they would push forward with mass numbers, forming attacking formations and closing in on dismounted infantry. They would sustain their attack while receiving support from automatic grenade launchers (AGL) and general-purpose machine guns (GPMG) provided by their weapon company. However, if the battle plan was flawed, intelligence unreliable, reconnaissance ineffective, or the information gathering was insufficient, with few or messy details that hindered proper identification, even without the advantage on their side, don't think their foolish opponents, they would know how to counter their attacking style and react accordingly, Thus, the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact can lose battles. There may be situations where retreat is not an option, although there could be circumstances where they fall back. Even if a glorious victory is achieved, there will undoubtedly be a heavy price for losses. The reality of the battlefield is incredibly complex, messy, and filled with confusion and surprises. Let us not forget the fog of war. While the video may sound like propaganda or nonsense, it is still better than individuals on the internet proclaiming with certainty which side is winning or losing. War does not operate in such a simplistic manner. It is a multifaceted and intricate phenomenon that involves numerous factors. All I know, it's important to approach matters with care, using examples and references to examine and simulate scenarios. Whether you choose to believe it or not, or just keep blindly believing everything should consider it as propaganda or misinformation, feel free to proceed. you can end up creating your version of misinformation and falsehoods, meanwhile, you don't even understand their doctrines. that's all is it.
The infantry was not unprotected It was under the support of tanks and APCs as said in the video , What I don't understand is that this support from tanks was never shown, bad video. Infantry must form a line during the attack and maintain suppressive fire constantly.None of this was shown. Furthermore, the troops who cut the wires must be protected with their colleagues lying down or behind the armored personnel carriers, or tanks
Whenever I go to the shops, I hard target out of the driveway.
Why was a Cpl leading a Recce Ptl for a Bn FUP? Where were the Officers? Mind you, the Cpl seemed to be highly experienced and knew what he was about. Running into an enemy minefield would freak me out!
They wouldve been been given a bloody nose...look how pathetic russia was in the Ukraine! Their tactics haven't changed!!! 😂 we had 3 days to hold em up...and i think we would've achieved that. 😊 yes, heavy casualties maybe but we had everything to fight for😉
but the have though? do you really think the modern russian army (who im not a fan of, to put it lightly) are using the same tactics as 40 years ago? thats silly and disingenuous
Lol that aged well. Now the narrative is that they can invade the UK and we need to conscript our zoomers lol. Truth is the first casualty of war. Neither side is ever going to tell the truth during wartime or even during a cold war, they're not bloody eejits. Fyi I was in an Inf Bn in 1988, it was TA but 1/4 of 1 (Br) Corps i.e. the British army units whose job it was to go and fight the Sovs if it kicked was - 2 Inf Div were TA, 1, 3 & 4 Armoured Divs were regulars, based in Germany. Our job was to stop the Sovs breaking through the Minden Gap. They told us that in the event our battalion's life expectancy was 20 minutes. It has since emerged that had they broken through, within a matter of hours the US would have had to deploy tactical (i.e. manpack) nukes to stop the Sovs, that's how much we were outnumbered.
Those daysacks! Put any decent weight into them and they cut your shoulders to bits. They were awful. But I don't think anyone who has served could say that they don't miss this shit. Good old days lads.
These 😂merciless bastards are always in place !. Do remember that these cunts are out to harm you personally 😂and individually 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
Blimey, that takes me back! Remember it like it was yesterday. I wonder how today's generation of young soldiers would adapt their experience in Afghanistan, to doing this sort of thing in the British isles...
Now that's a proper colour DPM.
Must say desperately cheap housing one bullet could go through many before stopping. Then wooden fences you be in trouble if nasties where about.
20:00 "And don't be afraid to use civilians as cover." WTF?
Absolutely put them in front of you and you crouch down, makes sense. You are harder to hit.
Aw sweet memories of the NITAT training pre tour It was always fun doing civi pop in tin town
It would be interesting to know how long and to what effect formal military operations could have carried on had there been a complete nuclear exchange as was predicted for WWIII. If the major cities, bases, industry, infrastructure, etc. were destroyed by nuclear bombardment, one might surmise that at some stage effective combat units would cease to exist. The vehicles would stop running, supplies would run out, command and control would disintegrate, etc. Sheer survival alone might become the soldier's only remaining objective. I wonder how the NATO and Warsaw Pact leadership anticipated this and what their expectations were in such a scenario.
That's what I was just thinking; how long before the tactical nukes were deployed? My "guestemation" would be less than 8 days, until a cease fire or then limited barrage of strategic nuclear missiles.
@@fiendish67 I think it would have been almost all at once from the very get go. Once the shooting started, the high-level commanders would have decided that they must act with full force immediately to claim the initiative. They probably would have kept a small percentage of their nukes (onboard submarines, etc.) in reserve for round two but most of the developed world would have been flattened within about 48 hours I would guess. It's a fiendish scenario. Thank God it never happened...or hasn't happened yet anyway.
@@moredistractions Maybe?
@@moredistractionsMy guess is that the Soviets could have made a big conventional push into Europe with massive forces that NATO forces would not have been able to completely defeat. . And been too afraid to fire nukes
@@decimated550 yeah they also would have opened up with an nbc suite over the boarder like viruss chems and everything then nato launches
It's great how the British Army can adapt to changing circumstances. Fluid.
I used to watch the Army patrols as a kid in Northern Ireland. I was mesmerized at how they used to move. It was just normal, back then to see the Army on the street. I was never afraid of them because neither I nor my family had anything to hide. We always felt sorry for these young men, far away from home in a place where a lot of the people hated them. Later, I worked for the government for fourteen years and found out what it was like to be spat on, called an "Orange B*****d" and a "Brit", I had urine thrown at me, rotten eggs and a firework shot at me from a plastic pipe like a bosoka. My house and car were acid bombed and I was threatened by a terrorist organisation. These were terrible days and sad to say that the sectarian hate in Ireland has not gone away it is still lurking just under the surface both in the North and the South of Ireland.
It could’ve been worse, luckily the irish government had sensible individuals in the cabinet at the time so they didn’t invade NI
.. but mot of the people wanted them there... Important point. Most of the people WANTED US PATROLLING MOST OF THE POPULATION WANTED US PATROLLLING
There was a reason why people hated you
Did a couple of tours in tin City lol plus one in W Belfast. I do not remember us having kids when we did civil pop
I think this might of been called tin City. That was one place they used before sending troops to that shithole
Never had ANY of the additional kit, totally balls. We went out as we were. Lucky to have more the 1 dressing, we had morphine. Honestly we had basic kit, as of Malaya. He thought were ok though. Sight setting, totally against SOPs and the Yellow Card. We really never had cover, apart from parallels. Subsequent tours, the infantry never wanted to provide cover to Signals troops, they did but, worthlessly. In S Armagh and E Tyrone we never wanted infantry cover as it was pointless. Depending on unit and time on tour they were often restrictive on their protection. Black Watch were certainly different, loved those boys. Queen's Company in XMG were more interested on their reds for the next job, they were adverse to any patrol. At the time we, 3 Bde didn't like ground cover. In 4 days, we went up every day and night, mg attacks every time, we had a job. Queen's Company, stayed inside XMG apart from when we did the Sq Sanger, well second time. There's a huge difference in prospective, some units are not the same
This video takes me back especially the ropey intro tune. The narration on many of these types of videos was done by the same bloke. I can remember in the mid 80s patrolling in combats because lightweight trousers were prone to melting if petrol bombed and the INIBA jackets were in use. Enjoyed my time in Ireland plenty of tea stops.
Having the weapon sights set for 200m makes sense in an urban environment but at that range a round from an SLR could go through a brick wall and still kill two people on the other side.
Brings it all back.
'should be smart and well turned out, this helps to instill confidence in themselves and impress the local people with their professionalism'...todays police force/service etc could do with a bit of this
The problem in Belfast was a round from an SLR could go through a house wall.
I thought it was tin city in Sennalager. I was there in 81...jesus... So long ago. 😮
is it just me or is the L1A1 SLR with an optic just epic ?
It is just you. Go and get some help.
SUIT (sight unit infatry trilux)
Weren't the optics a bit crap and prone to misting internally?
@@stevenpremmel4116 Not when shooting at unarmed civilians.
@@Demun1649 do you think thats all the british army did in northen ireland? are you aware of the kind of war that was fought? do you think the IRA ran around in uniform?
Who puts the sling on the stock attachment point? If they wrestle the rifle away from you, it will naturally point directly back at you. Boom, one dead squaddie. My unit, 2 Para, attached the sling to the weapon butt so in the same situation, if they got the weapon away from you, it naturally pointed at THEM. boom, dead terrorist.
A coworker of mine in the early 90s, Mary, was from Northern Ireland. She was a sweetheart but tough as nails. A bomb went off in Bishops(?) while I was in London over the weekend. I heard the blast and left amongst the chaos afterwards. I was checked by police twice. I was nowhere near the site but must have been within some radius. I remember dust and bits of paper falling down like snow. When I saw her on Monday she just laughed and said "Yer notta vergen no more!".
The music on these Army videos was always the same, just hearing it I picture my recruitment office.
"one or two Yobos on street corners" .........I say how jolly unpleasant. Silly comment aside, THANK YOU for posting this film, very interesting, FOURTY YEARS OLD boy oh boy.
Seeing that poor guy who was injured after stepping on a mine. I knew a guy called Darby Allen who was a retired Royal Navy EOD diver and he was killed when working for a charity that cleared mines. I was 19 in 1997 and living in the Scottish highlands totally oblivious to the horrendous things happening in Bosnia. I had friends who joined the Army from school and one was Kinnon Ragni - he served in the Middle East and survived that only to be murdered by some scumbag outside a nightclub…..Kinnon had nothing to do with the scumbag either. He was there with a group of mates and the murdering b-stard had been kicked out and returned to cause trouble. He had it in for the army boys and stabbed Kinnon.