ADAPT is a five-year (2013-2018) research project, funded by the European Research Council and based at Royal Holloway, University of London. The aim of the project is to research and document the history of British broadcast television technology between 1960 and the near-present.
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A Sony 1 inch tape machine?!
Four tube cameras!
Marvellous,brings back memories of trying to match test patterns ,all at the last moment, I have a sore back just remembering how heavy everything was.
Imagine someone in the old days wants to film a 30-second vlog, so he nudged and tweaked and fine-tuned and calibrated a monstrous camera for several hours and consumed a whole basket of fresh batteries just for preparation
In all videos such as this I’ve never seen anyone use an IR camera to show the full darkroom process. Nice addition!
so cool. Id. Id almost sell everything and move just to get a CHANCE to work there.
3:47
Old school video and post.
So, it's playing and recording at the same time. As you said, sure risky if you're using a single master tape. If you keep adding graphics, I'd think you'd get generation loss on the tape? Or is this digital beta? It's still quite amazing what they did with linear, analog and digital magnetic tape.
I got my start in TV back in the day we used these gears.
film will never die.
I see tape likes to randomly crash just as our Premiere Pro now. Different times but some problems stay the same.
What a gem of a video. I'm 25 years old, I've never seen a film camera in real life. But I've watched old TV programmes shot on films and they look so much better than those modern digital monsters. This is fascinating
This is absolutely brilliant! To resurrect a remote kit as you did was awesome. Would love to see something like this here in the states. Great job!
Comic Sans shouldve been around in the 70s
Surely a 2” quad would have been the correct vtr for early colour ob? 1” came in mid to late 70’s. Otherwise good piece. Of course the real job was playing out live as many sports used to do. Then things could get very stressful and there is no bar to retire to on an ob truck.
Indeed but working examples are rare, certainly don't like being moved around and it would have added a whole level of complexity. Almost certainly another truck with all the support equipment which usually involved things like compressed air as well! However 1 inch machines are more compact, need less support equipment and are more plentiful.
That tape on the magazine trick is a big reason why projects like this are done. I bet that's not in a textbook anywhere. Real experience like that is seldom recorded.
What a cool function!
Great program - thank you !
Having never seen any of these machines/consoles in action (but having read about them), this trip into the editing world was extremely informative, to actually see things in action. I do have one silly question though - what exactly is a how-around (howl-round) and where does that term originate? Thank you
this came up again after a long time in the youtube menu and what a pleasure to watch these guys
That was wonderful, truly fascinating!
Just discovered these videos. Remember doing inserts for Children in Need and producer turned up with a master edit that had been done at an external editing company. Demanded to put captions on using pre read. It was only a 4 minute item and I argued not to use pre read as if the caption was wrong or misspelt (a common occurrence) we had no rushes to replace the shot and redo caption. Made a copy and captioned that but she wasn’t happy with the extra time it took (5 or 6 minutes). But pre read was great for football where you could do mixes with one machine.
It's terrible, like all that equipment that's worth thousands and thousands of dollars that I worked with as a lineal editor, today it's garbage and it's useless.
Yep everything becomes smaller and efficent leaving old behind
ab roll, Xroll. recorder with pre-read
2:20 So he mentions this was to be done live. So they just ran stuff on film right to tv? I know in the very early days that was the only option... but why not do the 'painting' to tape then just pop that in a VTR? Was it an investment of time to great to do- or was it maybe generational loss?
i didnt know its pronounced tele-"siney" until now. i've always thought it's tele-"sign"
We have one of these in our camera rental. It’s really cool to finally find more information and learn about the history of the early days of digital.
I'm surprised that you're not triggering the GVG transition from the editor
Nice video. I remember back in film school I'd balk at how much the labs would charge... but then you realize all the technology and skill and overhead involved and wonder how they could have charged so little. To boot all that toxic chemistry that had to be maintained and then disposed of. It's amazing people are still using film (certainly not me, I've shot enough of it in my time). I wonder how much longer labs like this will be able to justify staying in business, the film nostalgia is still keeping it afloat I suppose.
good work
Lovely stuff. Many moons ago I had an Ikegami three tube camera with viewfinder and 10:1 lens to set up and fiddle with. As well as CCU connectors, it had (PAL) video out, which simplified things somewhat! Now almost everyone has an HD camera in their hands.
Very fascinating
Pre-read was a great way to add downstream key titles and credits to an EDL conformed master. Also adding adding dissolves between the existing shot into a new shot. All very easy in a SDI digital suite, but if you used it in an analogue suite you would need to ensure the suite was lined up property several times during the session.
Pre read or xroll
Were the films shot at 24 or 25 fps? If it was 24, how was the fps increased to 25?
Normally the running time of feature films would be shorter when telecined to PAL.
The sound went up in pitch too.
What a wonderful educational video thank you dear people good health to you all
Most amazing about this valuable piece of film-history is the question: Where did they get these two camera-kids? They had only 1 job to do: Avoid unneccessary camera-movement. - And on top of that, they have completely messed up the sound. - I guess, they work at a gasoline-station now. :-)
They are probably some of the best qualified students available on the course. Doh. The woman hiding behind the rack is hilarious too.
Yes both mics badly overload. No idea about levels/ gain staging.
In the analog world, you had to be a perfectionist. It was a constant struggle with reality. And today..? Well ... Today, everyone, even a total idiot, has a smartphone in their pocket that does everything for them.
I wish there more and longer clips available from these Interviews
Absolutely fantastic, congratulations and thanks for posting, I still have my TX98 key .
This facility is now Kodak Film Lab London. Thank god it wasn't shut down and broken up/demolished during the film crisis
I thought that was Jordan Peterson at first
REEL Trouble - ERROR 3 is a pain in the ass. I had it on my machine not too long ago, and I also did the exact same thing; I turned it off and on again... And then it actually ate my tape 😢
Wow, what a gem.
2:30 That's probably one of the unsung virtues of the NPR (and its successor, the ACL), the fact that the cameraman can set up the shot and the lighting while the AC is loading the mag. That's a design that used to be unique to Eclair cameras, until ARRI essentially copied it for their SR series - which were more or less ergonomically-improved and more agile versions of the NPR.
Retirement sucks
I have worked in still photography labs and even own a lab currently but never done anything like this. It looks super fun.
Mighty fine historic Flying Spot Telecine. 16mm transfers to SD video began to look remarkably amazing in the 90s and really didn't look like crude amateurmovies anymore like they still did in the 70s and 80s. Even 35mm scans looked way better. Sure this machine might not scan at HD but for SD it delivered awesome results either to Betacam or Digital Betacam.
I'm dying to get the Eclair NPR. It's hard to find film cameras. There really only two places online you can go where they sell them, repair them and update them. Unless you go through eBay but I don't trust that. And they're still expensive! You would think they'd be down to $500-1,000 but they're up in the $5,000 and up range.
What a gorgeous little peice of history.