I like cars. And car stuff like tires, rims, mods, customisation and all that jazz. And I also like televisions and calibrating them. Yes, I'm weird. I know... ;-)
Never saw a McLaren going the wrong way into the tunnel during a race weekend 😂
@dmhlados36155 күн бұрын
Especially not with TWO people inside... :))
@knurtberkelson6 күн бұрын
I just saw a duck 😂🦆
@dmhlados36155 күн бұрын
Well spotted hahaha. But it was more than just one ;-)
@leom5378 күн бұрын
I'm trying to decide between these and the 4s
@dmhlados36156 күн бұрын
Well, the PS4S will be more sporty in terms of handling than the PS5. The PS5 is more durable and still has some comfort, but when pushing hard still has good grip. Especially in the wet. So if you drive mainly sporty, get the PS4S. This is a pretty good comparison video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/eXqqk8qcmpScZaw.htmlsi=56w4oL8BOBpU0u8V
@radiator197917 күн бұрын
I have been using kleber q3 for only one year doing 6000km and must say I will make a complaint for 2 tires (those in front). Tire bloks are crooked and a bit worn out. The block rubber 'pills out' so to say. Micro breakings can be observed between tire bloks. I have china goodride 401 AS tires on my second car for 3 years and they (4 of them) look almost as if they were only half of the year on the road making a few kilometers. Very dissapointed with kleber. The reara tires look good yet!
@dmhlados361516 күн бұрын
Hmm, that doesn't really sound like how it's supposed to be. Especially after only 6000 km. I would definitely take them back to the tire shop and show them. Could be a production thing, or bad storage at the tire shop or any number of variables like weather and usage etc. But basically if there is something wrong, you are in your right to go to the seller and get it sorted out. My QD3's have done around 5.000 km now with DOT 4623 and still look brand new. Hope you can get it fixed and good luck!
@mazdapremacy9718 күн бұрын
4 years quad 2 all year round and even 40c plus
@dmhlados361516 күн бұрын
Sounds good! :)
@ayo996223 күн бұрын
Any numbers Use dragy app
@dmhlados361520 күн бұрын
Unfortunately I don't have the Dragy app (yet). Looking into getting that, though. Subjectively the braking performance felt much stronger when compared to previous Hankook, Conti, Vredestein and Michelin Primacy summer tires and compared to CrossClimate allseason tires. Wet stopping distance from 100 KM/H was less than 60 metres. These are more or less new tires with full tread depth. For what it's worth...
@Tyrone-jj2qr23 күн бұрын
0:53 Good brakes! 😊
@dmhlados361520 күн бұрын
Agreed! No doubt for me that these tires are the best I've had in wet conditions.
@Tyrone-jj2qrАй бұрын
No Intermediates or Extreme Wets needed that day! 😂
@dmhlados3615Ай бұрын
Nope, just good 'ol Medium compound... Or was it Hard? Anyways, at these speeds I can guarantee they all last longer than 78 laps. :)))
@THEREALMisterLTАй бұрын
This needs more views. Also nice video!👍👍
@dmhlados3615Ай бұрын
I think so too. But I am somewhat biased hahaha
@MiguelAngel-fg3msАй бұрын
Ni un solo dato, todo valoraciones subjetivas
@dmhlados3615Ай бұрын
Well, I did put the links to all the objective, professional tests in the video description, didn't I? I am not a professional tire tester, so indeed my video is always to a certain degree subjective. I do, however, compare the CC2 and the Quadraxer 3 after driving them both on comparable cars in more or less the same conditions over longer periods. So therefore I believe I can comment at least with some confidence on their differences (or actually LACK of differences). I have no stake in either tire or company. Just my own experience and my own wallet. :-) In terms of objective data, please read the video description and see the links I have posted there. Hope that helps! Thanks for your reaction and drive safe!
@Tyrone-jj2qr2 ай бұрын
apex!
@dmhlados36152 ай бұрын
Apex-ish... ;-)
@knurtberkelson2 ай бұрын
Is there an option to change the speed at which this works? On my 2018 VW it doesnt work... Just normal brake lights
@dmhlados36152 ай бұрын
I'm not really sure on that, to be honest. I think it's standard on most "modern" models. It only works above a certain speed, though. Which I believe is about 80 KM/H. If it doesn't work on your car, maybe you can have it switched on/coded with VCDS.
@vincentkingsdale8334Ай бұрын
What country is this in? I thought of this warning flashing brake light idea back in 2000 and contacted every major car manufacturer and electronics company, along with the national highway safety patrol in the US. I was 20 at the time, and all I wanted was for safer roads and less accidents. I even contacted insurance companies and told them about the way it could save them money with fewer crashes on the road. All I wanted monetarily was $5 for every new car sold with this technology. Now, i find out this became a reality! Any lawyers out there know if I have any grounds for any type of suit since i massed mailed my idea out to just about every company?
@dmhlados3615Ай бұрын
They have been common here in Europe on cars from VAG (Audi, Volkswagen, Skoda, Seat for instance) but also on Mercedes and I think BMW. Not sure how long, but for 10+ years at least. I remember reading somewhere that for legal reasons this was not allowed on US cars, but I can't remember why... In my opinion it definitely shaves off valuable reaction time in the case of an emergency braking event for the cars following behind.
@williamrobinson66803 ай бұрын
Yeah, but how are you going to feel descending the snowy mountain rim, thinking you'd feel so much more comfortable and confident if you'd just sprung for the Michelins. A slide off with Michelins, blame the tires. Slide off with the knock offs, blame yourself.
@dmhlados36153 ай бұрын
I see your logic here. However I would think more like this: if the less than 1% performance-difference of another tire, is the ultimate difference between an accident or not: I should not have been driving there in the first place... And if were to drive snowy mountain rims often, I would not fit 3PMSF-Allseason tires at all (not CC2, not Kleber, not anything), but actual dedicated WINTERtires. 3PMSF-Allseason tires will get you home when it snows in most regular situations, but are really not intended for heavy winter-use in snowy mountain-regions.
@williamrobinson66803 ай бұрын
Case in point. I've ordered the same Michelins for my granddaughter RAV4. I researched the tire, testing, popularity and sales. And I'll always do this where the rubber meets the road. Safety #1. Because, I learned the hard way. For a bargain budget facsimile. Totally different dynamic, an decommissioned patrol car, Crown Victoria. I don't even remember the name, but a triple peak all winter V-pattern unidirectional aggressive monster for Michigan winter. Although it LOOKED like Goodyear Ultra Grips that I had much experience with in the 1990- early 2000. These knock offs, mounted and on my way home, sent me sideways looking at mail boxes. They simply loaded up with snow, poor self cleaning, and began to float away. Admittedly, rear drive was probably a factor. One of my biggest mistakes. I will NEVER trust another tire because it LOOKS like a popular proven tire. Seriously, words of wisdom. Not worth your life and family. I would stare at that tread in disbelief something so aggressive is a potential disaster tire. Then I felt maybe as a consolation, the tire would be good off road, being, my driveway. Negative. The huge V cleats simply dug trenches below the tire to the frame. The big blue cruiser went straight down, not forward. The original all season tire spun atop the driveway surface, pushing the beast forward at a slow embarrassingly pace. But FORWARD. Not down. An extremely peculiar knockoff tire. All looks. They got me! Blizzaks 80,90, DMV2 etc, GY ultra grip etc , years of experience with performance above and beyond expectations. At the end of the day, if they work,... they work. And you saved money. Myself, I learned a good lesson, and it would be foolish to defy it. I'll work extra overtime, or cut corners elsewhere to protect myself and my family. Godspeed!
@armandomacias84033 ай бұрын
Michelin rules. you get what you pay for
@dmhlados36153 ай бұрын
I definitely agree with you, never trust a tire by just it's looks or price. Always do your own research based on your own predicted use and needs. And that probably goes for many other things in life too, haha. In this case I did my research and am sharing my own conclusions, experience and thoughts. However, because of your reaction I did realise an important thing: I forgot to put the links to some of the professional tests of this tire in the video description. That is now fixed :). So thank you for your reply, be well and drive safe!
@Tyrone-jj2qr2 ай бұрын
Quadraxer looks pretty fine on deep snow. just like many professional tests confirmed also. it is made in Poland where they have lots of snow and mountains so thats usually a good sign. this is good test too by amateur: kzread.info/dash/bejne/omarmadsibC8iMo.htmlfeature=shared
@andreamassara5903 ай бұрын
5:15 of unnerving soundtrack.
@asliddinadkhamov48533 ай бұрын
Мишленга гап йук ❤❤
@asliddinadkhamov48533 ай бұрын
Мишлен❤
@Juliusz6555O3 ай бұрын
Gut!
@dmhlados36153 ай бұрын
:)
@dariusdarius0083 ай бұрын
Just got it on my car, after 4 years Continental sport contact 3. Michelin seems to be much noisier. That is disappointing...
@dmhlados36153 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear it. I've not driven the Conti's myself, so I don't have the same comparison as you. I can only fairly compare the PS5's to my previous Hankook UHP tires: PS5's are about the same in terms of noise, main difference is more grip in the wet. Other touring tires I've had were quite a bit quieter. But less fun, obviously :-)
@brostugen3 ай бұрын
What is the wheels width if I may ask?😊
@dmhlados36153 ай бұрын
Sure! These rims are 7J x 17 (ET 49).
@brostugen3 ай бұрын
@@dmhlados3615 I'm actually quite surprised the sidewall is perfectly straight against the wheel edge, I use 215/45/17 against 8j x 17, and it look quite stretched, I don't quite like it
@dmhlados36153 ай бұрын
Well, I know that on my 7j rims the max tire width is supposed to be 225. Which is what I've had for some years. So I can imagine that a wider rim like yours combined with a slightly narrower tire could look slightly different than my setup. Maybe a 225 is an option for you too...
@Tyrone-jj2qr3 ай бұрын
At 5:05 in the video, how was the drive in real life?
@dmhlados36153 ай бұрын
Well, I drove the same stretch without camera and probably a little faster too and there was zero problems on that surface. Only in really deep standing water and going faster than say 100 km/h you can feel some pulling to the side.
@FlorinUlmeanu3 ай бұрын
Try Vredestein Quatrac..., especially in terms of aquaplaning-resistance and wet braking.
@dmhlados36153 ай бұрын
For sure a very good tire in the wet, the Vred! Put it on a family member's Ford a year ago. Quite happy with it. Only slight drawback: it seems to have fairly high rolling resistance.
@knurtberkelson4 ай бұрын
I know for a fact that you often drive faster than that! 😂😉
@dmhlados36154 ай бұрын
I can neither conform nor deny this. ;-) But I always take good care of my surroundings, especially when filming :-)
@stalmachm134 ай бұрын
Nejlepší pneumatiky pro klasickou sportovní jízdu. Jsem s nimi hodně spokojen, Golf VII GTD
@dmhlados36154 ай бұрын
So far I am very impressed with them too.
@alekhidell93734 ай бұрын
Kleber is a good tyre brand. Was the tyre brand used on the Concorde for a number of years.
@dmhlados36154 ай бұрын
That's an interesting piece of history/info I did not know, thanks! And does this mean my Quadraxer 3's can run at supersonic speeds too...? ;-))
@AJ-qn6gd4 ай бұрын
The Kleber tread differs slightly it looks like the CC1 the sipes are straight not serrated as on the CC2 we have the CC2s on our Subaru and will be fitting them to our camper van when it’s due tyres.
@dmhlados36154 ай бұрын
They are indeed just slightly different when you look up close. In my experience the performance is identical still, but this can be car-dependent too. CrossClimate 2 is a great choice too!
@DavidZangy4 ай бұрын
Best breaking performance i have ever had with tires.
@dmhlados36154 ай бұрын
I would agree. I've had different touring tires (Vredestein/Continental) and UHP tires (Hankook) on this car. And different sets of Michelins on my previous car. So far these PS5's feel superior under braking. That said, there may well be other tires out there that are comparable, but so far I am very happy with these.
@DavidZangy4 ай бұрын
What about gripping? is it going to get better with time?@@dmhlados3615
@dmhlados36154 ай бұрын
Well, for me the grip on wet roads (so not just braking) seems really good. I can maintain a lot of speed when cornering hard. Once the tires wear down a little, the dry grip should get better. See here for more explanation: www.tirebuyer.com/education/breaking-in-your-new-tires
@xtnuser53384 ай бұрын
It may well be a better performer PER DOLLAR SPENT than the Michelin, but it doesn't seem to be QUITE as good. Maybe close enough that the average driver will never even notice a difference, but there ARE differences. If you want that last few percentage points worth of performance, and cost is no object, get the Michelin.
@dmhlados36154 ай бұрын
Thank you for this and I appreciate you taking the time to reply! I definitely agree with most of what you're saying. Especially the fact that average drivers will not notice any differences in performance. I'm a big fan of Michelin tires myself but did quite a bit of research to see if CC2's were indeed "the best out there". I concluded that all the professional tests COMBINED (at least to ME) were inconclusive, basically because it was either very close OR in other cases CrossClimate 2 was ahead in one test and Quadraxer 3 was ahead in another test. So this video is mostly based on my own comparison experience, with a safety-bias towards wet performance and wet/dry braking. And yes, combined with pricing. ;-)
@user-he1rn4ko9r4 ай бұрын
Nice video
@ninonico99274 ай бұрын
Hello, very interesting. Thanks. 😉
@dmhlados36154 ай бұрын
You're very welcome! :-)
@helenbach18702 ай бұрын
Video ruined by crap music.
@dmhlados36152 ай бұрын
Sorry 'bout that... Will try to do better in future. Thankfully most devices have volume controls these days. ;-)
@DavidZangy4 ай бұрын
How they grip comparing to the pilot sport 4 ?
@dmhlados36154 ай бұрын
I have personally not driven the Michelin Pilot Sport 4, so I have no comparison experience there. However, I understood from various sources that the PS5's are simular to the PS4's in terms of grip but have improved tire wear so should last longer.
@DavidZangy4 ай бұрын
@@dmhlados3615 I hope that the grip will get better, because im with the ps5 for 1 week and like 500km, but i really feel that the ps4 grip and turning was way better. hope its something that will get better during driving with those tires.
@dmhlados36154 ай бұрын
Yes, I have had the same experience with previous tire swaps. But luckily there is good explanation for this. The "old for new" tire swap means a lot more tread depth, which means more movement in the rubber even if the tires are identical. Which means they may feel less grippy when new. You can read about it here: www.tirebuyer.com/education/breaking-in-your-new-tires However, in wet/rainy conditions you should definitely notice much better performance with new tires. In dry conditions the tires get sharper in dry conditions as they wear down, but that also means less grip in the wet.
@DavidZangy4 ай бұрын
Hey man, im so glad to read this, because now i know that the performance and the grip of the new tire will be better during driving more kilometers. I was really wondering why its gripping less than my old PS4 tires, but now you got me relaxed. Thanks a lot for the information. @@dmhlados3615
@dmhlados36154 ай бұрын
Happy to help ofcourse! And hope you will enjoy your tires for many kilometers!
@knurtberkelson4 ай бұрын
Michelin Pilot Sport 5 - the director's cut? ;-)
@dmhlados36154 ай бұрын
You could say that hahaha. Had some more footage & images to share :)
@knurtberkelson5 ай бұрын
Hahaha loving the slowmo camera stuff :))
@dmhlados36154 ай бұрын
Thank you! Just doing some experimenting here and there :)
@knurtberkelson5 ай бұрын
Nice footage! Looking forward to your Michelin PS5 video... Is it nearly summer yet? 😉
@dmhlados36154 ай бұрын
Thanks! And yes, hopefully summer is not far from us now
@user-he1rn4ko9r5 ай бұрын
Thank you for this!
@dmhlados36154 ай бұрын
My pleasure! :-)
@user-he1rn4ko9r5 ай бұрын
Very helpful! Thanks
@dmhlados36154 ай бұрын
Glad to hear it! You're very welcome!
@Jeo-What5 ай бұрын
It is a Micheline subsidiary company, a 2nd tier tire company that is designed to compete against the budget price tires. KLEBER QUADRAXER 3 is based on the Micheline CrossClimet+/CrossClimate 2 with less warranty, MPG and minor performance differences.
@dmhlados36154 ай бұрын
Yes, thank you for this and your reply. Indeed (as I also put in the video description) it is based on the Michelin CrossClimate. That was more or less the reason I brought it up, since I did the comparison myself. In terms of MPG they are exactly the same on my vehicle and two other vehicles. Performance differences are indeed minor, some in favour of the CC2 and some in favour of the QD3. Same goes for longevity/tread wear, some tests say Michelin is better, some say the Kleber is better. I think the CrossClimate 2 is a great tire! But if the Quadraxer 3 can basically match it and at a much better price, than to me that is "better". But as I said, CrossClimate is definitely a great tire too.
@Jeo-What5 ай бұрын
It should be because Kleber is a 2nd tier tire company that is owned by Micheline and the QUADRAXER 3 is based on CrossClimate 2 design. Just less warranty and less MPG.
@dmhlados36154 ай бұрын
Thanks! The MPG may be different for different users, but for me and two acquaintances the MPG is not any different from the Michelin CC tire. Warranty in terms of projected kilometres tread life is in favour of the Kleber Quadraxer 3 according to Auto Bild Germany (alltyretests.com/kleber-quadraxer-3-test-review/) . But even in the tread wear was equal I would personally still pick the Quadraxer over the CrossClimate, because of it's price difference. But that's just my personal opinion, based on the info I have gathered. That said, the Michelin CrossClimate tires are great too.
@steifan3 ай бұрын
it's a bit like the brand Gislaved (old Swedish brand) that is owned by Continental, really decent in winter tyres but most often reused old Continental patterns. I think Nokian does that stuff better labelling "old new" stuff as Nokian Nordman.
@ninonico99275 ай бұрын
Hello, good tyre 👍 kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z6Z6xcdyeajFkaQ.htmlsi=BxvkykY6Lip8tDJ2
@thomash54846 ай бұрын
I'd love to hear your thoughts on these tires
@dmhlados36156 ай бұрын
Yes, I will definitely share my thoughts once I've given them a proper test 👍😃
@sterillium6 ай бұрын
Oooh! Shiney!
@knurtberkelson6 ай бұрын
Hahaha, yes... For now 😊
@miguelarschlooo52425 жыл бұрын
Ist dse and vertical Banding same ?
@TheSkepticSkwerl6 жыл бұрын
isn't this a judder test and not banding?
@PhilReloaded8 жыл бұрын
i only have banding effekts in fullscreen. i also noticed that in other youtube vids... :(
@Kie-70778 жыл бұрын
I can't help wondering how much of my screen's DSE is actual dirt and dust!
@OutsideTheUnbox8 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this.
@toriello1239 жыл бұрын
Como puedo solucionarlo. Ayuda por favor
@SnarfThaRocker9 жыл бұрын
How long has this been going on. Watched that video too. My tv also has it. Guess i have to live with it because the store said that all the tv's have it more or less
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Never saw a McLaren going the wrong way into the tunnel during a race weekend 😂
Especially not with TWO people inside... :))
I just saw a duck 😂🦆
Well spotted hahaha. But it was more than just one ;-)
I'm trying to decide between these and the 4s
Well, the PS4S will be more sporty in terms of handling than the PS5. The PS5 is more durable and still has some comfort, but when pushing hard still has good grip. Especially in the wet. So if you drive mainly sporty, get the PS4S. This is a pretty good comparison video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/eXqqk8qcmpScZaw.htmlsi=56w4oL8BOBpU0u8V
I have been using kleber q3 for only one year doing 6000km and must say I will make a complaint for 2 tires (those in front). Tire bloks are crooked and a bit worn out. The block rubber 'pills out' so to say. Micro breakings can be observed between tire bloks. I have china goodride 401 AS tires on my second car for 3 years and they (4 of them) look almost as if they were only half of the year on the road making a few kilometers. Very dissapointed with kleber. The reara tires look good yet!
Hmm, that doesn't really sound like how it's supposed to be. Especially after only 6000 km. I would definitely take them back to the tire shop and show them. Could be a production thing, or bad storage at the tire shop or any number of variables like weather and usage etc. But basically if there is something wrong, you are in your right to go to the seller and get it sorted out. My QD3's have done around 5.000 km now with DOT 4623 and still look brand new. Hope you can get it fixed and good luck!
4 years quad 2 all year round and even 40c plus
Sounds good! :)
Any numbers Use dragy app
Unfortunately I don't have the Dragy app (yet). Looking into getting that, though. Subjectively the braking performance felt much stronger when compared to previous Hankook, Conti, Vredestein and Michelin Primacy summer tires and compared to CrossClimate allseason tires. Wet stopping distance from 100 KM/H was less than 60 metres. These are more or less new tires with full tread depth. For what it's worth...
0:53 Good brakes! 😊
Agreed! No doubt for me that these tires are the best I've had in wet conditions.
No Intermediates or Extreme Wets needed that day! 😂
Nope, just good 'ol Medium compound... Or was it Hard? Anyways, at these speeds I can guarantee they all last longer than 78 laps. :)))
This needs more views. Also nice video!👍👍
I think so too. But I am somewhat biased hahaha
Ni un solo dato, todo valoraciones subjetivas
Well, I did put the links to all the objective, professional tests in the video description, didn't I? I am not a professional tire tester, so indeed my video is always to a certain degree subjective. I do, however, compare the CC2 and the Quadraxer 3 after driving them both on comparable cars in more or less the same conditions over longer periods. So therefore I believe I can comment at least with some confidence on their differences (or actually LACK of differences). I have no stake in either tire or company. Just my own experience and my own wallet. :-) In terms of objective data, please read the video description and see the links I have posted there. Hope that helps! Thanks for your reaction and drive safe!
apex!
Apex-ish... ;-)
Is there an option to change the speed at which this works? On my 2018 VW it doesnt work... Just normal brake lights
I'm not really sure on that, to be honest. I think it's standard on most "modern" models. It only works above a certain speed, though. Which I believe is about 80 KM/H. If it doesn't work on your car, maybe you can have it switched on/coded with VCDS.
What country is this in? I thought of this warning flashing brake light idea back in 2000 and contacted every major car manufacturer and electronics company, along with the national highway safety patrol in the US. I was 20 at the time, and all I wanted was for safer roads and less accidents. I even contacted insurance companies and told them about the way it could save them money with fewer crashes on the road. All I wanted monetarily was $5 for every new car sold with this technology. Now, i find out this became a reality! Any lawyers out there know if I have any grounds for any type of suit since i massed mailed my idea out to just about every company?
They have been common here in Europe on cars from VAG (Audi, Volkswagen, Skoda, Seat for instance) but also on Mercedes and I think BMW. Not sure how long, but for 10+ years at least. I remember reading somewhere that for legal reasons this was not allowed on US cars, but I can't remember why... In my opinion it definitely shaves off valuable reaction time in the case of an emergency braking event for the cars following behind.
Yeah, but how are you going to feel descending the snowy mountain rim, thinking you'd feel so much more comfortable and confident if you'd just sprung for the Michelins. A slide off with Michelins, blame the tires. Slide off with the knock offs, blame yourself.
I see your logic here. However I would think more like this: if the less than 1% performance-difference of another tire, is the ultimate difference between an accident or not: I should not have been driving there in the first place... And if were to drive snowy mountain rims often, I would not fit 3PMSF-Allseason tires at all (not CC2, not Kleber, not anything), but actual dedicated WINTERtires. 3PMSF-Allseason tires will get you home when it snows in most regular situations, but are really not intended for heavy winter-use in snowy mountain-regions.
Case in point. I've ordered the same Michelins for my granddaughter RAV4. I researched the tire, testing, popularity and sales. And I'll always do this where the rubber meets the road. Safety #1. Because, I learned the hard way. For a bargain budget facsimile. Totally different dynamic, an decommissioned patrol car, Crown Victoria. I don't even remember the name, but a triple peak all winter V-pattern unidirectional aggressive monster for Michigan winter. Although it LOOKED like Goodyear Ultra Grips that I had much experience with in the 1990- early 2000. These knock offs, mounted and on my way home, sent me sideways looking at mail boxes. They simply loaded up with snow, poor self cleaning, and began to float away. Admittedly, rear drive was probably a factor. One of my biggest mistakes. I will NEVER trust another tire because it LOOKS like a popular proven tire. Seriously, words of wisdom. Not worth your life and family. I would stare at that tread in disbelief something so aggressive is a potential disaster tire. Then I felt maybe as a consolation, the tire would be good off road, being, my driveway. Negative. The huge V cleats simply dug trenches below the tire to the frame. The big blue cruiser went straight down, not forward. The original all season tire spun atop the driveway surface, pushing the beast forward at a slow embarrassingly pace. But FORWARD. Not down. An extremely peculiar knockoff tire. All looks. They got me! Blizzaks 80,90, DMV2 etc, GY ultra grip etc , years of experience with performance above and beyond expectations. At the end of the day, if they work,... they work. And you saved money. Myself, I learned a good lesson, and it would be foolish to defy it. I'll work extra overtime, or cut corners elsewhere to protect myself and my family. Godspeed!
Michelin rules. you get what you pay for
I definitely agree with you, never trust a tire by just it's looks or price. Always do your own research based on your own predicted use and needs. And that probably goes for many other things in life too, haha. In this case I did my research and am sharing my own conclusions, experience and thoughts. However, because of your reaction I did realise an important thing: I forgot to put the links to some of the professional tests of this tire in the video description. That is now fixed :). So thank you for your reply, be well and drive safe!
Quadraxer looks pretty fine on deep snow. just like many professional tests confirmed also. it is made in Poland where they have lots of snow and mountains so thats usually a good sign. this is good test too by amateur: kzread.info/dash/bejne/omarmadsibC8iMo.htmlfeature=shared
5:15 of unnerving soundtrack.
Мишленга гап йук ❤❤
Мишлен❤
Gut!
:)
Just got it on my car, after 4 years Continental sport contact 3. Michelin seems to be much noisier. That is disappointing...
Sorry to hear it. I've not driven the Conti's myself, so I don't have the same comparison as you. I can only fairly compare the PS5's to my previous Hankook UHP tires: PS5's are about the same in terms of noise, main difference is more grip in the wet. Other touring tires I've had were quite a bit quieter. But less fun, obviously :-)
What is the wheels width if I may ask?😊
Sure! These rims are 7J x 17 (ET 49).
@@dmhlados3615 I'm actually quite surprised the sidewall is perfectly straight against the wheel edge, I use 215/45/17 against 8j x 17, and it look quite stretched, I don't quite like it
Well, I know that on my 7j rims the max tire width is supposed to be 225. Which is what I've had for some years. So I can imagine that a wider rim like yours combined with a slightly narrower tire could look slightly different than my setup. Maybe a 225 is an option for you too...
At 5:05 in the video, how was the drive in real life?
Well, I drove the same stretch without camera and probably a little faster too and there was zero problems on that surface. Only in really deep standing water and going faster than say 100 km/h you can feel some pulling to the side.
Try Vredestein Quatrac..., especially in terms of aquaplaning-resistance and wet braking.
For sure a very good tire in the wet, the Vred! Put it on a family member's Ford a year ago. Quite happy with it. Only slight drawback: it seems to have fairly high rolling resistance.
I know for a fact that you often drive faster than that! 😂😉
I can neither conform nor deny this. ;-) But I always take good care of my surroundings, especially when filming :-)
Nejlepší pneumatiky pro klasickou sportovní jízdu. Jsem s nimi hodně spokojen, Golf VII GTD
So far I am very impressed with them too.
Kleber is a good tyre brand. Was the tyre brand used on the Concorde for a number of years.
That's an interesting piece of history/info I did not know, thanks! And does this mean my Quadraxer 3's can run at supersonic speeds too...? ;-))
The Kleber tread differs slightly it looks like the CC1 the sipes are straight not serrated as on the CC2 we have the CC2s on our Subaru and will be fitting them to our camper van when it’s due tyres.
They are indeed just slightly different when you look up close. In my experience the performance is identical still, but this can be car-dependent too. CrossClimate 2 is a great choice too!
Best breaking performance i have ever had with tires.
I would agree. I've had different touring tires (Vredestein/Continental) and UHP tires (Hankook) on this car. And different sets of Michelins on my previous car. So far these PS5's feel superior under braking. That said, there may well be other tires out there that are comparable, but so far I am very happy with these.
What about gripping? is it going to get better with time?@@dmhlados3615
Well, for me the grip on wet roads (so not just braking) seems really good. I can maintain a lot of speed when cornering hard. Once the tires wear down a little, the dry grip should get better. See here for more explanation: www.tirebuyer.com/education/breaking-in-your-new-tires
It may well be a better performer PER DOLLAR SPENT than the Michelin, but it doesn't seem to be QUITE as good. Maybe close enough that the average driver will never even notice a difference, but there ARE differences. If you want that last few percentage points worth of performance, and cost is no object, get the Michelin.
Thank you for this and I appreciate you taking the time to reply! I definitely agree with most of what you're saying. Especially the fact that average drivers will not notice any differences in performance. I'm a big fan of Michelin tires myself but did quite a bit of research to see if CC2's were indeed "the best out there". I concluded that all the professional tests COMBINED (at least to ME) were inconclusive, basically because it was either very close OR in other cases CrossClimate 2 was ahead in one test and Quadraxer 3 was ahead in another test. So this video is mostly based on my own comparison experience, with a safety-bias towards wet performance and wet/dry braking. And yes, combined with pricing. ;-)
Nice video
Hello, very interesting. Thanks. 😉
You're very welcome! :-)
Video ruined by crap music.
Sorry 'bout that... Will try to do better in future. Thankfully most devices have volume controls these days. ;-)
How they grip comparing to the pilot sport 4 ?
I have personally not driven the Michelin Pilot Sport 4, so I have no comparison experience there. However, I understood from various sources that the PS5's are simular to the PS4's in terms of grip but have improved tire wear so should last longer.
@@dmhlados3615 I hope that the grip will get better, because im with the ps5 for 1 week and like 500km, but i really feel that the ps4 grip and turning was way better. hope its something that will get better during driving with those tires.
Yes, I have had the same experience with previous tire swaps. But luckily there is good explanation for this. The "old for new" tire swap means a lot more tread depth, which means more movement in the rubber even if the tires are identical. Which means they may feel less grippy when new. You can read about it here: www.tirebuyer.com/education/breaking-in-your-new-tires However, in wet/rainy conditions you should definitely notice much better performance with new tires. In dry conditions the tires get sharper in dry conditions as they wear down, but that also means less grip in the wet.
Hey man, im so glad to read this, because now i know that the performance and the grip of the new tire will be better during driving more kilometers. I was really wondering why its gripping less than my old PS4 tires, but now you got me relaxed. Thanks a lot for the information. @@dmhlados3615
Happy to help ofcourse! And hope you will enjoy your tires for many kilometers!
Michelin Pilot Sport 5 - the director's cut? ;-)
You could say that hahaha. Had some more footage & images to share :)
Hahaha loving the slowmo camera stuff :))
Thank you! Just doing some experimenting here and there :)
Nice footage! Looking forward to your Michelin PS5 video... Is it nearly summer yet? 😉
Thanks! And yes, hopefully summer is not far from us now
Thank you for this!
My pleasure! :-)
Very helpful! Thanks
Glad to hear it! You're very welcome!
It is a Micheline subsidiary company, a 2nd tier tire company that is designed to compete against the budget price tires. KLEBER QUADRAXER 3 is based on the Micheline CrossClimet+/CrossClimate 2 with less warranty, MPG and minor performance differences.
Yes, thank you for this and your reply. Indeed (as I also put in the video description) it is based on the Michelin CrossClimate. That was more or less the reason I brought it up, since I did the comparison myself. In terms of MPG they are exactly the same on my vehicle and two other vehicles. Performance differences are indeed minor, some in favour of the CC2 and some in favour of the QD3. Same goes for longevity/tread wear, some tests say Michelin is better, some say the Kleber is better. I think the CrossClimate 2 is a great tire! But if the Quadraxer 3 can basically match it and at a much better price, than to me that is "better". But as I said, CrossClimate is definitely a great tire too.
It should be because Kleber is a 2nd tier tire company that is owned by Micheline and the QUADRAXER 3 is based on CrossClimate 2 design. Just less warranty and less MPG.
Thanks! The MPG may be different for different users, but for me and two acquaintances the MPG is not any different from the Michelin CC tire. Warranty in terms of projected kilometres tread life is in favour of the Kleber Quadraxer 3 according to Auto Bild Germany (alltyretests.com/kleber-quadraxer-3-test-review/) . But even in the tread wear was equal I would personally still pick the Quadraxer over the CrossClimate, because of it's price difference. But that's just my personal opinion, based on the info I have gathered. That said, the Michelin CrossClimate tires are great too.
it's a bit like the brand Gislaved (old Swedish brand) that is owned by Continental, really decent in winter tyres but most often reused old Continental patterns. I think Nokian does that stuff better labelling "old new" stuff as Nokian Nordman.
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I'd love to hear your thoughts on these tires
Yes, I will definitely share my thoughts once I've given them a proper test 👍😃
Oooh! Shiney!
Hahaha, yes... For now 😊
Ist dse and vertical Banding same ?
isn't this a judder test and not banding?
i only have banding effekts in fullscreen. i also noticed that in other youtube vids... :(
I can't help wondering how much of my screen's DSE is actual dirt and dust!
Thank you so much for this.
Como puedo solucionarlo. Ayuda por favor
How long has this been going on. Watched that video too. My tv also has it. Guess i have to live with it because the store said that all the tv's have it more or less