Task Force Tips - Firefighter Equipment
Task Force Tips - Firefighter Equipment
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1st question: when I was a volunteer our commercial engines didn't have a front suction. Had a rear suction or tank fill. Our engines had 1000 gal tanks. 2nd question: can tank 3 be put behind E-57 so more tankers can unload simultaneously (2-4)?? This would work best on a state road (ideal conditions). Town roads might be challenging or add in dead end roads.
I don't remember seeing a monitor without a shut off
Great video Mr. Lovett. Easy to digest info and definitely an easier way to handle multiple port-a-tanks.
But if we utilize your training on multiple suction lines (2 or more) we could simultaneously fill tankers due to a near 1500gpm (depending on truck pump size/ motor hp) ?
I love that camera
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Really great video. Excellent editing, text layover, pictures, etc. Very informative and a solid training package for any department. One CON I would add to using the LDH when you start your operation is the amount of water you would consume just filling that 5’ vs 3’ line. A long lay to a house could consume most of your tankers water AND not even have reached the fire attack engine yet.
Really great video. Excellent editing, text layover, pictures, etc. Very informative and a solid training package for any department. One CON I would add to using the LDH when you start your operation is the amount of water you would consume just filling that 5’ vs 3’ line. A long lay to a house could consume most of your tankers water AND not even have reached the fire attack engine yet.
Excellent! I'm in a rural setting, any fire, the tanker always goes!
Thanks for watching, Scott! Glad you enjoyed it.
Thats it, we're going to start carrying bowling pins instead of dead blows.
They look like a fun crew to be around! 👍
They are the BEST crew to be around. All day fun and passionate hard work to get the shots.
"You know where it's coming from, you know it's from home." Hey, more power to you. I'd love to see more American made. That said, I know how hard it is to compete with every other company playing "what's your China plan?"
These are very well done and filled with useful information. Thank you.
impressive set up - but a jet siphon would be faster and not require a second pumper kzread.info/dash/bejne/m3pkmdOjpZe9d5s.htmlsi=ffR8wyerx1tJw_Uc
What is the water flow pressure/volume through the jet system to transfer from 2 to 1 ? What part of the 5-600 transfer is actual transfer? Thank you.
Where does the estimate of 500 gpm per jet siphon come from? I've seen test data by GotBigWater where all devices tested did better than that, with the TFT 6" low level strainer maxing out at 1156 gpm.
Excellent!
We call that back flow prime and it can be done without a intake valve. Just more efficient with the valve.
I didnt understand anything but the fire trucks look very cool 👍
Using too many unnecessary words to say nothing
If you were a firefighter you would get it
It’s a neat idea. In my area though, we still have a lot of tenders that can’t pump.
Thank you. Always nice to Learn something new 🤓
Great Video, Thanks Henry
I haven't seen a fire apparatus built on a Ford C series chassis in service in decades! One of our members fabricated a device out of an old brass 2.5" female coupling and a 4' piece of 6" conduit. Included a swivel. He called it "The Water Dong". We kept it on our oldest engine for use in tanker shuttle ops, as a makeshift dump valve. Worked pretty well, and swiveled up out of the way, so it was left connected between uses. A bungee cord or hose strap was used to secure it up while travelling.
Due to the variable rate of flow in small streams it is impossible to preplan the flow.
Great Video TFT. Good job Henry in explaining this operation. I will use certainly this video in my classes.
firetrucks are red, not white!!!
Rig is 30+ years old and still going strong.
Tankers fly, tenders drive. Other than that, this is a hell of a way to bring a lot of water to an incident without crowding it.
To bad in real situations it takes y’all 6 months to set up
I had bubba as an instructor in Texas. Texas water thievery! It was damn good class!
Excellent trading video.
Also comes in handy when you are hot at a call and wanna dive in to cool off 😂
This is a very common technique up here in New England, usually they use a "gated Y" connection though.
These videos are awesome! Keep them coming!
Great video love seeing some local departments I know
So where im a volunteer we don’t get much fires, but the one time we train on this and have the hoses out and stuff we get toned to a structure fire and spend about 2-3 minutes putting em back. It was a great training though!
Seen that my grandparents house burned down this weekend 12 miles from nearest town they had to shuttle water it hurts to see a family home burn
i love the bowling pin as a mallet !
Ever thought about using a 5 to 1 manifold ? First tanker uses a ldh short shot to flow 4” of water instantly then deploy 2 2 1/2” or 3” lines both ways using 2 discharges on the tanker theoretically flowing 5” of water and by removing the double females off the manifold you turn it into a water hole fill site
Yep she takes twice as long to do half the physical work as a man
Tankers have wings…….tenders have wheels and stay on the ground.
Tenders are made of chicken and go in the fryer. Tankers carry fluids.
Sorry to tell you but the terms are interchangeable, and always have been based on where you live. Get off your high horse.
@@Stargazzer811 Sorry to tell you but on a wildfire incident or an All Risk incident they are not.
@@Stargazzer811 It’s a nationwide thing not a local thing. Using slang will get people killed. Thank you but I already got off my horse after riding it this morning.
@@AppalachianPatriot Nice of you to tell me what I already know. First off, it varies if you use USFS/NWCG ICS terms or NIMS ICS terms. Note that 80% of departments that use NWCG are where? California, because its always on fire so the Feds are always helping put it out. Also worth pointing out is before NWCG was even a thing, the term tanker was used in the trucking industry and by USDOT for vehicles carrying and/or transporting large amounts of liquid. The fact that the vehicle switched from private service to fire service doesn't change what it is. Another point: Tender came about in the late 1970s from a program designed entirely for SoCal, called FIRESCOPE. Meaning that outside of that region, it doesn't mean fuck all. "NIMS/NWCG made me do it" isn't a valid excuse to stick departments with a term they don't want. Finally Tender is an utterly generic term anyway that comes from many places overseas where its analogous to company in a fire service, so it really isn't great to use anyway. The main point though is that people will call it whatever they want, so it really doesn't matter. Tenders and Tankers are the same.
Before getting into the professional side of firefighting I cut my teeth for 12 years in a large volunteer department who regularly went MA to rural departments who didn’t have hydrants in much of thier districts. Drafting and tanker ops is a must for all engine company drivers. We saw the legitimacy of this after Katrina and the need for drafting in a big city. Hats off to you brothers for putting this to use and getting it perfected!
This is somewhat normal operations around here. Some issues with what you show: Do not use a siamese. Use a gated appliance. We use a portable hydrant or water thief. That allows 4 - 2.5" inlets as well as a 5" and can push the water to a 5" line. Siamese does not allow the line to be drained if the lay is uphill and ends it people getting very wet if not hurt. A large (think barn) fire will require more than 600 - 700gpm. Most front suctions limit pumps to less than 1000. Know your pumpers and their capacities. It isnt that difficult to add a couple joints from the side and get 1500.
Yeah I was watching this video and asking, why not just use a gated wye? You can shut off one side to disconnect the tanker and connect the drafting engine to it without getting wet or potentially losing flow rate.
thanks i will show my RFD brothers
Been doing this at my department for a while, never knew what it was called. Sweet video!
Thanks, Sam! Great to hear your department has been doing the Rural Hitch for a while!
Why you have two handles for tank to pump?
Have been given two reasons, one being that on a hill you might have preference between a front and rear to get all the tank capacity. The other reason is the limitation of a single 2 or 2.5" connection on flow, with it being necessary to have two tank to pump valves if running a deluge at higher discharge volumes. Both have some merit and some potential drawbacks. I also don't mind the idea of having a backup to get tank water in a situation where quick water from the tank is imperative early in an operation.
Is there a way to run the wobble function without the bulb on? I have a problem with mine. Bulb turns on but no wobble.
That's a great question - unfortunately, we aren't sure! We don't sell the lights, we caught this footage during a video shoot we did with a few fire departments in Tennessee!
Gotta hand it to you Yanks, not bad gear, not bad tecniques
Except that old white Ford engine…from the 1970’s!
@@tylermacconnell217 Still better than the shit we got over here.
@@tylermacconnell217 Wanted to share a story from my old man. My old man was fire chief in a rural area and a neighboring FD said basically the same thing about their 1947 Mac. They had two brand new trucks and wanted to run lead on the fire, "you boys take that old truck and draft from the pond and feed us" Alright man w/e you need. They wanted to run lead because they were at the top of the hill and wanted the paper to take a picture with their brand new trucks running this call. Meanwhile, they kept calling on the radio that they needed more water, more water. Uncle was running the truck, "comming at you." Slowly but eventually had that 'old' Mac singing its high note feeding two trucks at the same time uphill. (3" lines 1000gpm 300' uphill 50' rise pulling from 2 5" suction sleeves on draft) Well, those boys running those fancy new trucks needed to shift on the roadway and shutdown / closed all their lines except supply. They failed to mention they were moving to the 'old Mac' falsely believing it wouldn't matter, (for whatever reason.) What they didn't know was that 'old Mac' was military surplus and was capable of feeding 3 3" lines at the same time. That 'old Mac' blew the packing out of every pump on those new trucks. Thus ending the new trucks being in the paper and instead a picture of a lone 'old Mac' fire truck at the bottom of a hill by a pond with lines coming up the hill like a spider was in the paper instead. I'd have to ask my old man since this was in the 80's, its entirely possible those new trucks were 1970's Fords. (Correction, new trucks were 1979 Chevys, the 'old Mac' had a 6cylinder 500 cubic inch gas engine.) Saw your comment and it kicked that story to the front.
@@bentheguru4986 😂 but at least it does the job over there. It could be like chinas FD 💀
@@tylermacconnell217 That Ford will out-pump most modern units and probably breaks down half as less. Especially if said modern unit is a Pierce, Rosenbroken or KME.
Love how it violently has a stroke compared to that of an F7 mars light😂