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Well explained the topic as a management professional in my opinion when a new project begins, the manager identifies the group best suited to handle the project.He then breaks down the activity into small parts and assigns each part to the person most suitable to handle it which is site project manager.He let's these leaders know that they are responsible for getting these tasks done nd gives them the the authority to do all that is necessary to complete the task.Project manager assigns them deadlines and go to inspect the Quality control of the project on nd often nd takes the update from site manager to get an idea of the progress of the project.Hence Organizing play's a vital role in Project management in brief in my views.The Controlling function consists of those activities that are undertaken to ensure that the project do not deviate from prearranged plans nd workforce team of technical nd non-technical should follow the execution as per specification in a systematic manner to achieve excellence results of the project.Vry.inspiring nd outstanding lecture nd worth praising.It is also a part of effective management as a overall Perspective.Thanx👍
@@pradeepbhatnagar4848 thanks for the feedback and comment mate much appreciated
£250 a day atleast, £120 for his good apprentice 👌
Working for a large facilities company, most clients won't look at you if your vans 3 years or older 🤷♂️
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Hey, Paul recently I was finding the responsibilities of PM and your video helped a lot. Love your content.♥ Can't wait to watch every video of yours.🤩
@@MAS_civilengineer thanks for this mate - hope you’re well
@@PaulTinkerMakeMOREprofit I am great man, keep up with your work you doing great
Heloo sir i m from nepal and i m also leading my small team my profession is as a project team leader as my roles and responsibilities as a project manager i m having effective communication skill with my team in every phases of projects creating good planning and giving more dedication towards the taken project and motivating the team to give their abilities and effort to accomplish the project in assigned time and delivery in an appropriate way . Why i m explaining this bcoz as being project manager i play these roles and obligation in my country nepal my question is that did people play the same role in british country either their working style is much more difference i really wanna learn more
Groundworks all day long!!
I personally take the cost of materials and at least 30% or more as a non refundable booking fee to allocate time in my diary. If its a really large job I always make sure I'm ahead a little on costs/deposit and use stage payments. However I'm only a one man band tradesperson of small sized projects but with a good rep and online presence the customer holds you accountable that way plus they still have money to pay by the end. I've been dropped before leaving a huge vacuum in my diary to fill and loads of materials which stung. I used to take nothing until they confirmed they were happy when I was finished but this isn't an ideal world. Just as there are bad tradesman there are bad customers. I've works for a builder on a job who got stung. Their client was a Barrister unknown to them he kept getting in new builders, he didn't pay each one, he got the lot for a tiny fraction of the cost leaving them all out of pocket. Once you find out what he does for a living, you seriously going to try fight that as a small builder. tbh when I explain the justifications for doing it they are perfectly fine with it. The key is probably effective communication and I have a detailed survey/quote for a customer to view so they know where there money is going and explain in detail everything. I think that effort alone goes some way to build trust. I try keep the customer up-to-date all the time. I also try to issue a proforma invoice while I'm on the project towards the end which gives the client time to acknowledge whats to be paid and discuss it. They also can't be surprised then. I've never had a call back on my work and they are always happy to pay. Some situations I'll offer a discount but subject to prompt payment and upholding their side of the agreements if there is particular things I need to protect myself against.
For me personally. A deposit depends on each jobs material requirements. Generally if its a lot of moneys worth of gear then I do ask for a deposit or the amount for the materials. I've recently fitted 75 oak sleepers with a 4 meter square oak decking. That was close to 4 grand and the customer happily paid the merchants direct. But I sourced all sand cement screws and bracket. Small jobs I Generally pay. Sometimes thoe just as a mater of trust with a new client I will ask for a deposit. Good video
The developer definately is probably NOT the project manager. The project manager is likely to report to the developer.
Well said
Thank you Paul for these precious tips 🙌
You’re very welcome Laura
Loved the 50 quid training session 🥪 🤣
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Hello Sir, My name is Ahsan and I have done MSc Project Management. I want to do small projects with you 🥺. I need these a lot please. I hope you will help me.
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Hey @ahsannazir4011 What subjects did you study in your Master's program? And where have you completed your master's?
Great content Paul 👌
Haha loved the video! Subscribed!
Valuable content as always!
Thank you - appreciate the comment
Awesome !! Thanks for sharing
I feel it’s fair to charge for quote. There are works to be done (taking off, sourcing.. etc) and risk to be taken (it form part of the contract if accepted).
I pay up-front for trades with lots of material involved but nil for others.
How deep does the ground layer has to be removed?
Until you see no more asbestos/ you have to remove and send the sheet or the tile that you think has it and send it to a lab to test if it is but if you know what a asbestos sheet looks like the. You have the remove everything I have ,90 years on the job
"...ex-spilling the differences.." @ 0.02!! I'm done
Thanks for your valued helpful input
Project managers🤔, failed site managers 😂
So would not render over brick at all?
You can with breathable products just not sand and cement
Is Weber ocr okay, I thought long as you use hydrated lime and waterproofer in your mix it’s okay
People who cover period homes with cement render need to be arrested
I would always do a job rate, but we had a developer we worked for who only wanted to pay a Day Rate. I explained to him it would be cheaper on a Job rate, so some of my lads started taking the piss, little did they know that I had a ring doorbell camera, so each night they dropped the key in early I deducted it from their pay, they soon worked their bollocks off after that. I’m a fair boss, but never try to take the piss out of me, otherwise you will be sorry 🤣
If rising damp does not exist, which it does, why do we have damp courses? Why were damp courses ever considered necessary? Also, just to point out, nothing is impossible!! Something to educate yourself with Paul!! Rising damp evaluation and treatment : a quasi-experimental case study Sellers, L Authors L Sellers Abstract The UK has a well-established industry involved in the treatment of rising damp. Yet, critics argue that rising damp is extremely rare and remedial damp proof course treatments unnecessary and ineffective. Additionally, evaporation from rising damp affected masonry is under-researched and opinions differ with respect to the effect that this moisture may have on the local environment. The aim of this research is to establish whether contemporary remedial damp proof course treatments are necessary and effective and if moisture affecting a damp wall is correlated with that in the environment. Due to the limitations of existing laboratory-based research in this area, a practice-based approach employing a novel methodology, blending case study and quasi-experimental methods, was chosen to assess, in a field setting, the component parts of the contemporary method of remedial damp proof course treatment, techniques of moisture measurement, evaporation, and environmental moisture. The study found that rising damp is a real phenomenon that warrants treatment and that the contemporary method of damp proofing, installed as it would be in a real world setting, provides effective control. In addition, it determined that sample analysis is the only reliable method of diagnosing rising damp, that evaporation from a rising damp affected wall cannot be measured, and only the hygroscopic moisture component of a damp wall displays correlation with the wider environment. A project of this type has not previously been undertaken. It makes an original contribution to existing theory, laboratory research, and practice by providing useful data with respect to common and novel techniques for the measurement of moisture and evaporation from masonry materials; valuable reassurance to property professionals, home owners, and other stakeholders regarding the phenomenon and treatment of rising damp; and through the development of its unique methodology a mechanism to facilitate future field studies in this area of practice. Citation Sellers, L. Rising damp evaluation and treatment : a quasi-experimental case study. (Thesis). University of Salford Thesis Type Thesis Deposit Date Feb 15, 2018 Publicly Available Date Jun 20, 2018 Award Date May 1, 2017 Files Leslie_Sellers_DBEnv_Thesis_rev_2018_06_19.pdf (13.9 Mb) PDF Download Preview
Ironically it’s from educating myself that I have my view and my pre-education had my in the same camp as you Your quote from Les is an exert from his dissertation at university written approximately 20 years ago and is a very outdated view And to add to which Les is the director of a damp control company so therefore hardly impartial and my belief the reason for the report is (like many others) to justify the products that they sell The truth is that NOBODY will truly ever KNOW what’s going on in buildings - hence my clarity of stating “in my OPINION” that is shared
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Hi Paul I struggle with this in my business because i have lads on day rate but can absolutely drag theyre arses because behind my back they want to finish early without me knowing, peretending theyve done a full day. The battles ive had around this is now becoming stressful. Can i have some info around your courses please 🙏
Of course - I’ll get a call scheduled in for you
I turned this on, got bored, went to big box store, I bought two 10 foot four by fours, went home and screwed em to the ceiling, braced em with four more four by fours on each side of the wall, knocked er down, used a six by six that was ten feet long and a six by six on each side, took down the temp walls, came back and heard your advice about cleaning up so I went back and cleaned up, made some lunch, came back and finished the show then commented. What did I miss
Hey thanks for the comment and well done for spelling most of the words correctly - big gold star for you. You could have saved yourself even more time though, by just scrolling past if it was that boring for you - remember always that trying to blow out someone elses candle wont ever make yours burn any brighter
Good stuff!
The PM delivers the business case and once approved by the sponsor, the business case objectives as output inside the time, cost and quality parameters. The site manager covers just the build or implementation stage in accordance with the PM’s specification. The former acts for the client, the latter delivers for the contractor.
Spot on, and very relevant to corporate construction as it were - the awareness piece is around when the client (property developer) is appointing themselves in that role or appoints someone off Facebook to “check in” on the project with little direction
Been fighting this one for years on industrial roof ...plastic hats are dangerous on a hot day on a metal roof..heat exhaustion comes into play, which is highly dangerous and can effect you on the long drive home on the motorway...straw hat all day long, but been kicked off many a site for wearing a straw hat. In America they make a silicone ring that slips over you hat and makes a rim, tride one of those and got accused of tampering with a PPE..now left big industrial sites, because of safety guys picking on roofers looking for easy targets.
In Australia they have so many things you can add to ur hard hat to protect you from the sun! Every old boy on site has chunks missing from there noses and ears! They also offer free on site skin checks
You are always on point nowt up there that till hurt that head of ur it's silly but yes always in summer sun protection should be mandatory and away with the stupid hard hats tbf Geoff id wear that hat u had any day protects from sun and to me that is fit for purpose
The biggest hazard for a roofer must be the height, especially on a steep roof. I take my hat off to those that can do it - provided I’m a suitable distance away from whatever they’re doing 😂
In my view, there should definitely be a discussion first of all. Some people are oblivious to the fact that they are even paying a mark up. Second of all, it should be of the actual price paid! Otherwise one could pretty much make a business out of using their trade discount - a side-hustle if you will lol. Lastly, I think 10% but would be open to a conversation about it.
I agree completely but interested to see opinion of others 💪🏼
For me it all depends on the amount of information the client has provided. If it’s a small job usually I’ll go ahead and price for free, but if the job is complex we would offer to do a detailed quote with a breakdown that the client can use to get a more detailed quote from other builders. I go into the first meeting with the client and tell them that we’re not the cheapest builder, but we are competitive, but that we are going to build robustly and add value to the project with our experience. If a client has a complex job and hasn’t taken the time to really look at breaking the job down, I’ll explain that 3 different builders may give a price for 3 different specifications and might not give enough detail to be able to compare them. I should say though we also do building consultancy and often get involved in value engineering. We also price work for other builders and architects. When an architect is considering more than one option for the client, we will cost all options for them to consider the budget. If this is verbal it is free, if this is detailed then we charge and because of the way we put our quote together the breakdown is very detailed.
My qs always included a weighted sum in every estimate we sent out, therefore on a 50% win rate we were covered.
A quotation is more work/liability than an estimate. Free estimates are easy, mostly just made up on the hoof. Ask the customer if they want an estimate or a quote, explaining that quotes are chargeable. So long as you are reasonable and are dealing with a reasonable customer there should be no issue. That's what I do. Give them a broad idea of whats involved (estimate) or price it properly with the usual caveats. The serious people are fine with it. Not least because they think/know that "estimates" have a habit of being well below the final price...whereas a quote is a lot harder to wriggle. I think the wall you are coming up against is that people dont like to think they are being fleeced - a choice often helps to alleviate that.
Good points
Standard procedure is to charge for a quote or estimate, which is then deducted from the Invoice should the work be done ✔ 🤔 💸 Cheap quotes lead to cheap customers, and they're not worth the hassle 😅
Well it’s certainly not “standard procedure” or they’d be no need for the video or the question that was asked … I like the idea and have done so myself but not standard
@@PaulTinkerMakeMOREprofit any estimate worth its salt, would entail a couple of hours labour at least........ You should charge for that if that's as far as the job goes....... I would ALWAYS call it an estimate, as an estimate is less burdensome legally than a fixed price, penny pinching customers usually cause the most problems and are the most difficult to work with....
I suspect the time has gone to try this, certainly in London. From after Covid lock-downs to late 2023, you might have got away with this as their simple wasn't enough builders to go around! That said, the consumer wasn't on the whole ready to pay for quotations which just pushed the work to the ones not charging (If you don't get to quote, you don't get the job). A few of the bigger firms started to charge and I'm sure some desperate homeowners took them up and some may even have paid their crazy prices for the work but I don't know any one who didn't hang up when the mention of charging for a quote came up. I suspect the issue in London is homeowners don't know the price and want multiple quotes and no one is going to pay £300-500 as a price discovery exercise. More professional developers/landlords aren't going to pay full stop as "I've never paid for a quote". Today, as Book of works start to dry up and the middle classes feel the squeeze of conservative stealth tax rises and inflation and want to build a cash war chest, builders are for the first time in a while having to fight for work! For the first time in 3 years I had one revised down the price of an extension they quoted me (for free!) by 10% if I started in next few months. That said, if you can charge and do have a full BOW good luck to you and why stop!
You've basically said it yourself that you don't have a choice. If everyone else quotes for free you have to do the same and see it as time spent on marketing. I do the same for my business, going to meet people and spending time answering lots of questions. Most of whom wont become clients.
Well you don’t “have to” it’s still a choice mate
@@PaulTinkerMakeMOREprofitYou're right, it's still a choice. But from what you've said the choice is between charging and losing lots of potential clients, or not charging and winning a healthy amount of business.
In my personal experience as a customer and as someone who's partner was self employed and she charged for her quotes this is what I saw: - the majority of contractors who charged for a quote put in more work into that quote vs the ones who just send you a premade template with zero to no effort going into the requirements; the same contractors who charged for it also did better jobs. - depending on the job requirements my partner used to charge for the quotes. However, how she used to do it: if it was something what didn't needed any special requirements, research or specific out of the norm tooling, she was able to make a quote in under lets say 20 minutes, that was it. But if she had todo research aso. - she usually went back to the customer and explained to them that and if they still wanted, she will put together the quote. Also, according to her, over 90% of her customers what paid for the quote also contracted her, but the quotes she charged for were not simple on-pagers - that was like always a proper project document aso. She was an artist and was contracted for restauration works and also creating sculptures for small to larger projects UK wide.
Great share mate
No to paying for quotation, I recently had a job to fix an end cap on a roof, was about an hour job. One guy said £380, turned out despite advertising as being in the area he was about 25miles away, when I said its like an hour job tops, he said "Yeah but ive goto come from 25miles away so that's an hour each way plus there are two of us so its half a days work. Ended up going with another guy that charged £95 and did it when he was next in the area. Can you see from the customers point of view they don't want to pay for a ridiculous quote. I'm also a trades person and I get it but you have to just add it into your costs, if you went for a PAYE job you would get paid what £15 or so per hour, as self employed or your own company you can charge £35, why so much more because you have additional costs that as PAYE you would not have, spending time quoting for jobs is part of that. They way I work is I have a charge for the first hour then a rate for subsequent hours plus materials, it does mean some customers like to check up on you a lot to make sure your working but I work hard so not an issue, ill give a rough idea of how long the job will take and simply explain to the customer if I do you a quote I have to think everything as worst case scenario to cover myself, whereas this way its fairer for both me and you and completely transparent.
You go to a solicitor, they charge for the consultation, you pay for a check up at a dentist & get a quote for additional work, an accountant fees are all about the same. You/I go to them, their office at no cost to them. As a trade person to get in a van to view the job, time to price the work & send an estimate with additional follow ups/ calls etc pumping you for info on how your going to do the job as you believe you might be in with a chance & find you then hear nothing is a constant drain on resources so you put your prices up & then win nothing. There is a shortage of trades people & we have a skill like the solicitors & accountants of this world so why should we charge on the same basis but every trade needs to do it to work for my opinion.
Good points
I’m a mid-50s consultant surveyor / PM in heritage building and restoration, previously an MD of UK specialist contracting co in the same marketplace. I provide advice to heritage asset owners and pricing advice/services to a select list a of contractors in this specialist sector of construction. We / I am regularly approached by private and public sector clients seeking detailed priced building surveys and advice, itemising works by categorised priority 1-3-5-10yrs+, both for competitive comparison and often funding purposes. It is commonplace, especially within the public sector, that these detailed documents (BofQ & SoW) find themselves used by, often inexperienced public sector FM managers; council heritage asset portfolio managers, as the basis for issue as competitive priced returns by other contractors. In this specialist field, where strict LBC guidelines apply, and technical experience is often sadly lacking, I advise the contractors I work for to seek a cost recovery fee for pricing, and pass-back that fee, on receipt of a confirmed written order. The time-wasters; public sector and private sector “tyre-kickers” as you call them, soon realise that some cost are value-added. Andy
Nope because on a regulator basis I have been given quotes where you can tell they dont want the job by totally overcharging. Why would I pay for that service? For big job's say replace a kitchen, bathroom, get a roof teplaced, electrics overhaul etc, I'll get a minimum of three quotes. Imagine paying three times just because you are doing sensible due diligence.
Good points
In my view, it depends. We had the roof done in an old cottage - we also got in 6 different quotes, 2 of the contractors charged for the quote - we also went with the one who charged us. All, and I mean all the 4 free quotes where so generic that I just know they will turn around and find issues what will push the prices up. The one we took in, had a complete breakdown of prices, time it will take and even a redundancy package included with What-If - he wasn't the cheapest but the safest - also the quote cost was £25 his default admin fee for everything covering paperwork; and he finished the job ahead of time, revised the quote and we ended up paying less.
@@GoalSquad666 the whole point is to get your view …
@GoalSquad666 but how do you know upfront that the company quoting are going to be fairly priced, honest and provided a detailed quote. What assurances do I have as a customer? What is stopping a cowboy company just providing ridiculous quotes just to make a quick buck? Surely there is a happy medium? Perhaps have a call on the phone were a ballpark figure can be provided so no one wastes each others time. Most customers genuinely don't know how much a job costs so provide an indication. May be better use of technology would help e.g. have a video calls so the trades person doesn't have to visit the site. Or even do a quick ball park and say, happy to visit but it's a tenner for a quote and you'll get it back if you go with me.
@@jazzsingh9738 Do you let anybody start work without a contract? - I don't. The contract stipulates how much deviation from the quote is allowed. I'm not talking about a few hundred quid and 4hrs work jobs here. The roof took couple of weeks, the garden dito, the prices where in the thousands. Larger job, no quote, no contract no job - I work hard for my money, I don't throw it away; also I never pay full in advance. I'm from Europe, in France, Germany, Switzerland, it's normal and I pretty much, as the paying customer set the rules - you don't like, OK, I'll continue to look till I find one where we get an agreement. The roof job, I looked for 6 months, and in the end it was a Polish guy with two Dutch guys doing it. They drove all up from Doncaster to Scotland. The landscaper is a local firm. He owns over 10 vans and works all over UK. He literally did it the way automatically, because his customers, some of them won't sign a contract if the deviation from the quote is more then 10% So, maybe he charges more, but the work is perfect. Cowboy builders, they usually put off by people like me.
The other way is to charge a fee that is deducted from the final price if they go ahead. Complex quotes take time and a lot of time I can see both sides
Nice idea
I have been in the moving up process for 20 years and have renovated 7 houses and moving up to bigger and better. I probably do half the work, relying on trades for the rest and because I move around I don't have a black book of reliable tradesmen because they won't want to travel too much every day. I cannot recall a time where any tradesmen has asked for payment for a quote, and wouldn't entertain paying for a quote either. My current project I had 5 builders quote me as it is a large renovation this time and would soon run into serious money or I would have to limit my quotations to 1 or 2 and that is never a great idea.
Completely understand this