Dude, Arrau is like triple S tier, but I’ll give you time to mature into that opinion, but Argerich is hot air wafting out of a garbage truck and is middling at best, I tend to agree with all of the others you took a major dump 💩 on 😂 and of course Barenboim is just a sewage leak coming out of oo-CHEE-da’s factory at the GROVE-nor recycling facility. Make another list with all of the other pianists that were mentioned in the comment section for a better video. Anyway, thanks for the laughs.
@Doozy_Titter2 күн бұрын
Ok you got me I didn't recognize that clair de lune 😂
@RachManJohn2 күн бұрын
It was moving at a fair clip, innit?
@DomFileoreum2 күн бұрын
Hungarian dance no. 5 isn't even Brahms, bro stole it from Kéler and got away with it
@RachManJohn2 күн бұрын
He should return it, the melody sucks
@reamartin64582 күн бұрын
TwoSetViolin aren’t real musicians TBH 🥱
@RachManJohn2 күн бұрын
I mean, I wouldn't personally deny them their musicianship, I just feel they've sacrificed their integrity for popularity. Which I will never do, because I will never be popular, because I'm insufferable.
@miquelcanosasanteularia16783 күн бұрын
Great video. I would love a list with pianist that are alive and active
@teodorb.p.composer3 күн бұрын
Yeah, Feniberg is underrated. You have very original, but reasonable taste!
@rgarlinyc3 күн бұрын
Wonderful collection, hard to disagree with, although I hang my head in shame (which makes typing this a chore) I had never heard of your compatriot Hmelnitsky until you included him here. I shall certainly delve into his works from this day forward, thank you!| P.S. fret not about not bring ever present on KZread - after all you are kin to RachmaninOFF, not RachmaninON (-all-the-time)
@RachManJohn3 күн бұрын
Hmelnitsky has become a hero to me like no other. It is clear that while he was a genius, he is not a genius in the unapproachably brilliant European style. Nyiregyhazi? I know that if I was given a million years, I could NEVER play in that category. The same goes for Yudina and co.
@rgarlinyc3 күн бұрын
@@RachManJohn Indeed, and it is a self-torture for me to listen to these absolute masters of the piano, as I both luxuriate in the delights they offer - and - wring my hands that I will never be able to play like them - as you say, even with a million years of time.
@user-xg4ot7yl4q3 күн бұрын
Ugh…pffff lang lang? Poor taste. So sad. His Don Juan might be his best but not even close to THE best. Barere and Ginzburg’s are all way better. Bang bang’s suffocating rubato, poor dynamic and phrasing are fucking killing ppl.
@user-xg4ot7yl4q3 күн бұрын
Anyone who put Lang Lang on this list is a joke. He and his mentor Barenboim should be expelled from the classical music word. Two jesters.
@RachManJohn3 күн бұрын
To some extent I agree, but I actually prefer Lang to Barenboim a fair bit.
@andomrtoob73383 күн бұрын
my taste in music is so fucked this actually didn't sound that bad
@user-xg4ot7yl4q3 күн бұрын
Looks like a solid ranking. Mostly agree with you, but Kissin and Arrau were underrated, Argerich was overrated. Kissin is at least Gillels level. Arrau is at least Brendel level. And Bang Bang are you kidding me? The fact that you say bang bang is getting better reveals the poor taste dude. 😂 How dare you put BangBang on the list to compare with these guys.
@reamartin64582 күн бұрын
Yeah, it’s hilarious
@Marta_Lledo_Video_Channel3 күн бұрын
Of course it is Claire de lune, Debussy! I recognized it in the first handful of notes. A wonderful selection. Thank you for your videos.
@stevowilliams82793 күн бұрын
Have you heard Roberto Szidon's recording of Scriabin's 9th? I believe that it contains the fury of your chosen recording while also having superior recording quality (if that's something that is important to you, for me it is essential). The climax in his recording is unbelievable and has, for me, made all other recordings of it sound laughably quiet and time. I will admit, Bakk's recording is rather incredible, so thanks for opening my eyes to it.
@RachManJohn3 күн бұрын
For me, recording quality is nearly unimportant. I've heard Szidon's version, but it didn't do so much for me. Perhaps I'll return to it!
@d_r_e_a_m_b_o_a_t3 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for the shoutout!! Wasn’t expecting anyone other than Yesipova when I saw thalberg but that was brilliant, I wonder where Paavola is now?
@RachManJohn3 күн бұрын
Well, looking into her life she appears to be the world's leading Thalberg schollar, so perhaps she is engaging in more studious escapades that way?
@KaikhosruShapurjiMedtner4 күн бұрын
Feinberg is Great. I love his recordings and his conpositions
@RachManJohn3 күн бұрын
Truly! I wonder what would've happened if he conducted.
@gunger19874 күн бұрын
best-written video yet, perhaps
@liebesfreud.4 күн бұрын
Dream_boat truly legend
@schnabelite4 күн бұрын
Rachman of the Johann, willst thou address the implications of we listening to these masters? Are you going to systematically address what good can come out of it?
@kpokpojiji4 күн бұрын
Nyiregyhazi's performance of the Tarantella is really amazing. Most pianists treat this as a virtuoso show piece, emphasizing the two faster sections. Nyiregyhazi plays them in a more lyric, dancelike fashion, then let's fly with the most soaring erotic/passionate love poem in the middle. Just incredible.
@RachManJohn4 күн бұрын
It's something out of legend.
@ferenc_l4 күн бұрын
If only so many of Nyíregyházi's recordings didn't sound like they were etched manually onto a piece of tin foil, I'd be quite overjoyed. Still, we do have some high quality recordings of his, which is a treasure.
@archsys3073 күн бұрын
well just go see him in concert then. i cant possibly see a problem
@ferenc_l3 күн бұрын
@@archsys307 brb, going to learn necromancy
@RachManJohn2 күн бұрын
@@ferenc_lthe Hungarian dark arts!
@hoangkimviet85454 күн бұрын
After each of your list, I know about more pianists.
@RachManJohn4 күн бұрын
It warms my heart to hear that!
@militaryandemergencyservic32864 күн бұрын
,
@militaryandemergencyservic32864 күн бұрын
nice. my favourite is Tiffany Poon. And Rachmaninoff Here's my new scherzo - entitled 'The RachmanJohn Scherzo' - kzread.info/dash/bejne/q2t2mZqAd6aqd8Y.html
@RachManJohn4 күн бұрын
Very wonderfully done - I'm honored to have such a sprightly composition bear my name.
@RachManJohn4 күн бұрын
Ah damn it, I just realized I left in a mistake right out of the gate at 00:45. Names in green are repeats from last year.
5 күн бұрын
Have you heard that Alessandro Perini (who composed the frog piece) got his entire YT channel removed because of TwoSet "fans" making false reports of "scam", " spam" etc shortly after their video was uploaded?
@user-uf2ox2mh1m11 күн бұрын
…they just chose pieces that were beyond their development. Otherwise they could have chosen many sweet songs.
@marksmith394712 күн бұрын
In his own way Pogorelich died young. When he was in his mid 30s--even before his wife died--his playing was deteriorating badly. I am a big fan of the young Pogorelich, who could play. In fact, I heard him in concert in the early 90s. His second Rachmaninoff sonata was superb
@RachManJohn12 күн бұрын
Believe it or not, I am even more in love with what we have now. Gone is the firebrand, and what remains is only immense feeling.
@tugruldemir187914 күн бұрын
Misunderstanding. The Scherzos are f*cking hard. So musicians tried to show us how hard they are. That's all.
@slendrmusic14 күн бұрын
One of the greatest romantic contrapuntal works indeed
@IEEMAZ_Convoluted_14.2.8.5Ай бұрын
Very well done!
@ligmaballs3775Ай бұрын
My goat has fallen into reaction content 😞it's so over
@RachManJohnАй бұрын
It's all I have time for right now. Too much on to be able to edit lists...
@KaikhosruShapurjiMedtnerАй бұрын
Gulistan is beautiful
@vrixphillipsАй бұрын
"I've heard your Sibelius, you have not succeeded" SHOTS FIRED, lmfaooooooo Speaking of exposure/evolution, I feel like Brett and Eddie have been exposed to a lot of classical violin, but .... that's about it. They don't listen to /all/ eras of western classical for all instruments and combos (including those not including their chosen instruments) which.... is how they end up with so little exposure to the avant-gardes. "I don't relate to intellectual music" and yet, he enjoys Bach? Some of the most intellectual music ever written (particularly the art of fugue?) I just... ugh. They're likeable lads, but I hate that about them.
@RachManJohnАй бұрын
Yeah, it's a confusingly common position. So many people are just chronically uncurious, even about thing they'll really enjoy or, you know, do for a living.
@Luca.FormentiniАй бұрын
You forgot Veronesi playing Waltz op. 69 n. 1 by Chopin
@wokkus5610Ай бұрын
Guys pls listen to Valery Kastelsky’s recording of Scriabin Impromptu Op 12 No 2
@Musicman169Ай бұрын
10:52 - quite instrospective
@ericbouchard3745Ай бұрын
I like your term "Postmodern Church of the Eternal Revolution". If you don't mind, I shall use that from now on.
@susanbryant6516Ай бұрын
This is in Twoset’s Family of videos Professional vs beginner series, and We try to learn x in 1 hour, where they mock their own effort and also show that yes, it takes skill and work to make it sound good. Also their sight-reading new pieces series…
@RachManJohnАй бұрын
Naturally there's that good old self-depricating nature in their video which as a fellow Aussie I appreciate, but there's a difference between making light of a genuine effort and simply sending up a complete misrepresentation of the thing you're exposing.
@susanbryant6516Ай бұрын
Haha, very enjoyable response
@RachManJohnАй бұрын
Appreciate it :)
@susanbryant6516Ай бұрын
Yup, that’s Messiaen alright!
@liebesfreud.Ай бұрын
больше этой рубрики
@villain7140Ай бұрын
Their fans will eat this up then complain about how classical music is dead while listening to the same 200 year old composers (like Paganini). Can't blame them though, Twoset did "prove" it after all!
@vrixphillipsАй бұрын
nah, a fair number of them are complaining about this one on reddit. not a LOT but a fair number.
@villain7140Ай бұрын
@@vrixphillips surprising considering the average Twoset fan is 12 years old, those must be the outliers. Still how great it is that we have these two as our representatives for classical music who think all music after 1950 is trash, all film music is trash, violas are a joke and Paganini is a great composer
@vrixphillipsАй бұрын
@@villain7140 meh, i kinda like pag, in small doses, but not his violin stuff. His works for guitar are alright. But yeah, their older fans (i'm 32) are alright. But I also was a music school applicant and a lot of us were fans of them in the early days before they got HUGE. They really fell off... but it's kind of wild still knowing more about classical rep than these guys as someone who had to drop out of music school? LIke... did y'all even take music appreciation?
@tylers9006Ай бұрын
My new fav tho is the Hymne au Saint whoever. Idk the name. The climax though is one of the most eerie and weird feelings I’ve ever felt. Just another example of Messiaen’s nuanced emotions
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Idea 1.5 earned you the like. ❤
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What about it?
@@RachManJohn those glissandos 😂
Dude, Arrau is like triple S tier, but I’ll give you time to mature into that opinion, but Argerich is hot air wafting out of a garbage truck and is middling at best, I tend to agree with all of the others you took a major dump 💩 on 😂 and of course Barenboim is just a sewage leak coming out of oo-CHEE-da’s factory at the GROVE-nor recycling facility. Make another list with all of the other pianists that were mentioned in the comment section for a better video. Anyway, thanks for the laughs.
Ok you got me I didn't recognize that clair de lune 😂
It was moving at a fair clip, innit?
Hungarian dance no. 5 isn't even Brahms, bro stole it from Kéler and got away with it
He should return it, the melody sucks
TwoSetViolin aren’t real musicians TBH 🥱
I mean, I wouldn't personally deny them their musicianship, I just feel they've sacrificed their integrity for popularity. Which I will never do, because I will never be popular, because I'm insufferable.
Great video. I would love a list with pianist that are alive and active
Yeah, Feniberg is underrated. You have very original, but reasonable taste!
Wonderful collection, hard to disagree with, although I hang my head in shame (which makes typing this a chore) I had never heard of your compatriot Hmelnitsky until you included him here. I shall certainly delve into his works from this day forward, thank you!| P.S. fret not about not bring ever present on KZread - after all you are kin to RachmaninOFF, not RachmaninON (-all-the-time)
Hmelnitsky has become a hero to me like no other. It is clear that while he was a genius, he is not a genius in the unapproachably brilliant European style. Nyiregyhazi? I know that if I was given a million years, I could NEVER play in that category. The same goes for Yudina and co.
@@RachManJohn Indeed, and it is a self-torture for me to listen to these absolute masters of the piano, as I both luxuriate in the delights they offer - and - wring my hands that I will never be able to play like them - as you say, even with a million years of time.
Ugh…pffff lang lang? Poor taste. So sad. His Don Juan might be his best but not even close to THE best. Barere and Ginzburg’s are all way better. Bang bang’s suffocating rubato, poor dynamic and phrasing are fucking killing ppl.
Anyone who put Lang Lang on this list is a joke. He and his mentor Barenboim should be expelled from the classical music word. Two jesters.
To some extent I agree, but I actually prefer Lang to Barenboim a fair bit.
my taste in music is so fucked this actually didn't sound that bad
Looks like a solid ranking. Mostly agree with you, but Kissin and Arrau were underrated, Argerich was overrated. Kissin is at least Gillels level. Arrau is at least Brendel level. And Bang Bang are you kidding me? The fact that you say bang bang is getting better reveals the poor taste dude. 😂 How dare you put BangBang on the list to compare with these guys.
Yeah, it’s hilarious
Of course it is Claire de lune, Debussy! I recognized it in the first handful of notes. A wonderful selection. Thank you for your videos.
Have you heard Roberto Szidon's recording of Scriabin's 9th? I believe that it contains the fury of your chosen recording while also having superior recording quality (if that's something that is important to you, for me it is essential). The climax in his recording is unbelievable and has, for me, made all other recordings of it sound laughably quiet and time. I will admit, Bakk's recording is rather incredible, so thanks for opening my eyes to it.
For me, recording quality is nearly unimportant. I've heard Szidon's version, but it didn't do so much for me. Perhaps I'll return to it!
Thank you so much for the shoutout!! Wasn’t expecting anyone other than Yesipova when I saw thalberg but that was brilliant, I wonder where Paavola is now?
Well, looking into her life she appears to be the world's leading Thalberg schollar, so perhaps she is engaging in more studious escapades that way?
Feinberg is Great. I love his recordings and his conpositions
Truly! I wonder what would've happened if he conducted.
best-written video yet, perhaps
Dream_boat truly legend
Rachman of the Johann, willst thou address the implications of we listening to these masters? Are you going to systematically address what good can come out of it?
Nyiregyhazi's performance of the Tarantella is really amazing. Most pianists treat this as a virtuoso show piece, emphasizing the two faster sections. Nyiregyhazi plays them in a more lyric, dancelike fashion, then let's fly with the most soaring erotic/passionate love poem in the middle. Just incredible.
It's something out of legend.
If only so many of Nyíregyházi's recordings didn't sound like they were etched manually onto a piece of tin foil, I'd be quite overjoyed. Still, we do have some high quality recordings of his, which is a treasure.
well just go see him in concert then. i cant possibly see a problem
@@archsys307 brb, going to learn necromancy
@@ferenc_lthe Hungarian dark arts!
After each of your list, I know about more pianists.
It warms my heart to hear that!
,
nice. my favourite is Tiffany Poon. And Rachmaninoff Here's my new scherzo - entitled 'The RachmanJohn Scherzo' - kzread.info/dash/bejne/q2t2mZqAd6aqd8Y.html
Very wonderfully done - I'm honored to have such a sprightly composition bear my name.
Ah damn it, I just realized I left in a mistake right out of the gate at 00:45. Names in green are repeats from last year.
Have you heard that Alessandro Perini (who composed the frog piece) got his entire YT channel removed because of TwoSet "fans" making false reports of "scam", " spam" etc shortly after their video was uploaded?
…they just chose pieces that were beyond their development. Otherwise they could have chosen many sweet songs.
In his own way Pogorelich died young. When he was in his mid 30s--even before his wife died--his playing was deteriorating badly. I am a big fan of the young Pogorelich, who could play. In fact, I heard him in concert in the early 90s. His second Rachmaninoff sonata was superb
Believe it or not, I am even more in love with what we have now. Gone is the firebrand, and what remains is only immense feeling.
Misunderstanding. The Scherzos are f*cking hard. So musicians tried to show us how hard they are. That's all.
One of the greatest romantic contrapuntal works indeed
Very well done!
My goat has fallen into reaction content 😞it's so over
It's all I have time for right now. Too much on to be able to edit lists...
Gulistan is beautiful
"I've heard your Sibelius, you have not succeeded" SHOTS FIRED, lmfaooooooo Speaking of exposure/evolution, I feel like Brett and Eddie have been exposed to a lot of classical violin, but .... that's about it. They don't listen to /all/ eras of western classical for all instruments and combos (including those not including their chosen instruments) which.... is how they end up with so little exposure to the avant-gardes. "I don't relate to intellectual music" and yet, he enjoys Bach? Some of the most intellectual music ever written (particularly the art of fugue?) I just... ugh. They're likeable lads, but I hate that about them.
Yeah, it's a confusingly common position. So many people are just chronically uncurious, even about thing they'll really enjoy or, you know, do for a living.
You forgot Veronesi playing Waltz op. 69 n. 1 by Chopin
Guys pls listen to Valery Kastelsky’s recording of Scriabin Impromptu Op 12 No 2
10:52 - quite instrospective
I like your term "Postmodern Church of the Eternal Revolution". If you don't mind, I shall use that from now on.
This is in Twoset’s Family of videos Professional vs beginner series, and We try to learn x in 1 hour, where they mock their own effort and also show that yes, it takes skill and work to make it sound good. Also their sight-reading new pieces series…
Naturally there's that good old self-depricating nature in their video which as a fellow Aussie I appreciate, but there's a difference between making light of a genuine effort and simply sending up a complete misrepresentation of the thing you're exposing.
Haha, very enjoyable response
Appreciate it :)
Yup, that’s Messiaen alright!
больше этой рубрики
Their fans will eat this up then complain about how classical music is dead while listening to the same 200 year old composers (like Paganini). Can't blame them though, Twoset did "prove" it after all!
nah, a fair number of them are complaining about this one on reddit. not a LOT but a fair number.
@@vrixphillips surprising considering the average Twoset fan is 12 years old, those must be the outliers. Still how great it is that we have these two as our representatives for classical music who think all music after 1950 is trash, all film music is trash, violas are a joke and Paganini is a great composer
@@villain7140 meh, i kinda like pag, in small doses, but not his violin stuff. His works for guitar are alright. But yeah, their older fans (i'm 32) are alright. But I also was a music school applicant and a lot of us were fans of them in the early days before they got HUGE. They really fell off... but it's kind of wild still knowing more about classical rep than these guys as someone who had to drop out of music school? LIke... did y'all even take music appreciation?
My new fav tho is the Hymne au Saint whoever. Idk the name. The climax though is one of the most eerie and weird feelings I’ve ever felt. Just another example of Messiaen’s nuanced emotions
OMG IT YOU IS THERE IN FLESH OF THE VIDEO!
“Eat me” 😭
thank you for this brother rachmanjohn