I don't buy any of this streaming nonsense excuse the pun. CD and LP stays best
@lamour10042 күн бұрын
Good
@simonhebert70693 күн бұрын
Is it the Apheta 3 and is it using the internal Luxman phono stage? Is it a good match and powerful enough or would an Aria would be better?
@highendaudio3 күн бұрын
Yes, yes!
@JRadian3 күн бұрын
How is the recording being made? These songs are such well-recorded tracks but don't sound nearly as great here. I'm sure KZread has a part in it, but some other channels seem to have much better youtube sound quality IME.
@highendaudio3 күн бұрын
@@JRadian quick and dirty with an iPhone.
@Badassvidsz4 күн бұрын
This is not << Unboxing >> it's just opening the box .
@highendaudio4 күн бұрын
@@Badassvidsz you’re free to come and help. One guy can’t do it alone.
@Badassvidsz2 күн бұрын
@@highendaudio Nah you can do it i know it .
@jcvr184 күн бұрын
Mike, when will you have the whole electronics in Tobian?
@highendaudio4 күн бұрын
In about 2 weeks. We have a piece coming that isn’t even released yet. Can’t wait!
@louv44374 күн бұрын
Are both these class A or either?
@johnmcglinchey38304 күн бұрын
A great sounding set up, Mike! You really do have excellent equipment for every taste.
@j.m.harris42024 күн бұрын
Mike, Tonality coming thru KZread is Exceptionally Good! Could Listen All Day to this System Synergy!💯
@mikelautermilch89394 күн бұрын
How do they compare to Magico, B&W, Clarisys?
@highendaudio4 күн бұрын
@@mikelautermilch8939 completely different. These are high efficiency horns. Bring your favorite 300b SET amp!
@gvukmanovic4 күн бұрын
Congrats on the new line of speakers & electronics👍🏻💪🏻
@highendaudio4 күн бұрын
@@gvukmanovic thanks!
@staceymangham5 күн бұрын
Let's get one thing straight right off the bat these two amps both sound fantastic paired with those awesome speakers. I listened several times before i could decide, in the end I had to pick 2 and I am not sure why I thought it had more realistic tonality like on cymbals and possibly knitted the music together better.😊
@vandersteenaudio10136 күн бұрын
What a great memory. This system was dialed! Our great dealer Audio Alternatives made this sing!
@ferdinandsteinvorth73139 күн бұрын
The fact that ripping a CD track and playing it from the streamer cancels the difference between the two sources makes me think the difference doesn't lie between streaming and CD per se, but rather between that particular streamer and that particular CD transport. That said, i do tend to agree that the fewer steps you have between source and speakers, the better off you are. Personally i don't stream. Partly because i fundamentally disagree with not owning your music and i hate the direction the whole music industry is heading with this, and partly because US regulators seem to believe that the best way to combat piracy in Latin America is to prevent people in these countries from having access to legal hi res streaming (go figure), which means Tidal, Qobuz etc are locked away... In my experience, comparing playback of the same track from a CD (Meridian 500 transport into Chord Qutest dac via coax spdif) with playback from the same track ripped to FLAC (regular PC into same dac via asynchronous usb, playback on WMP) reveals subtle differences (transport sounds more "liquid" if that makes any sense, vs a slightly "drier" presentation from the pc). However, both are equally satisfying and i'd be hard pressed to say which of the two is "better". Choice in this case would merely be a matter of preference tbh
@perfectsoundpursuit00712 күн бұрын
I am a fan of B&W. BR
@kvmalley12 күн бұрын
Close up highlights the blue, but not the metallic flake. Nice!
@billnimz12 күн бұрын
Awesome!!!
@bbfoto724813 күн бұрын
Maybe 1 day you have coffee/caffeine, and another day you have whiskey/wine...this make difference what you hear, too. 😛 Also make Big Bertha look like Beauty Queen...until next day, LOL! Maybe she "burn-in" after some hours/days, too. 😛 Hope she not as $$$$ as the cables! It's more fun to "burn-in" your brain cells with the drinks and just enjoy our music than to wait for silly cables to magically change molecules structure and electric properties from "burn-in"?! We can go buy lots of good drinks/food and fly round world for months to see real LIVE concerts with our favorite musicians & singers for the price of some cables here! :) I still don't understand WHAT makes any good construction cable sound different, with or without the burn-in? Secrets of the universe me thinks...no one ever know or tell me secret! Maybe Jesus know everything but he never come here to tell me either?! He piss me off now! I'm musician...drums/percussion & saxophone 30 years...and go to pro recording studios. When I ask to change cables, they look at me funny and point to EQ knobs instead! I try, and WOW they DO change sound really nice instead of wait again for silly $$$$ cable to "burn-in" or change another cable again. Have cake and eat it too with EQ they say. :) What I do if my $$$$ cable "burn-in" WRONG direction and make sound worse and I stuck there with sh!tty unnatural sound of my drums and sax???!!! I go buy another $$$$ cable 10x again til find right one??? Which one perfect synergy in MY system, NO ONE tell me...got to buy buy buy buy! Everyone have my money now, not me! F' this rectangular noise! Again, let's go travel around world, eat & drink good and go to LIVE music...share good feeling experience with other people not sit at home "listening to cables" for $$$$ and looking at blank wall alone, so silly, haha! Cheers
@1061shrink106114 күн бұрын
its annoys me (as someone looking for a new disc spinner) that Luxman are terrible a matching aesthetics and case shape across their ranges. They have absolutely no components that have the same casework, button arrangement and colour schemes. I have the 509X also, and theres almost no disc spinner that actually looks like its properly matches in their range.
@CarlVanDoren6117 күн бұрын
Nice ❤ thx for sharing 👍
@IroCorp221 күн бұрын
piegeons, the only species that will never disappear
@user-eh3qz4zv1o22 күн бұрын
Very nice Mike! Your setup is very neat and in it's place. Do you find yourself using the R2R or the Turntable more?
@highendaudio22 күн бұрын
Thank you. Probably turntable.
@Melchior6223 күн бұрын
As long as there are pigeons...
@ILovJeep23 күн бұрын
So, how did you go with the theta and gamma cables ? How did they stand in compare to their previous equivalent generation of cables ? Did you guys tried the USB cables as well?
@user-eh3qz4zv1o23 күн бұрын
Mike, What would you say is your favorite/s speakers with Block Audio? Since you have had Block for a while in your showroom, you probably have most time spent with so many! Thanks
@highendaudio23 күн бұрын
Hi! I’m going to say, our favorite with Block is Kharma. Our clients feel that way too. Folks who come in and demo. They just love the combo.
@user-eh3qz4zv1o23 күн бұрын
@@highendaudio Good to know, thanks for that!
@malevolent706126 күн бұрын
cmon i dont know what all that tech jumbo means just get to the point
@bobbybowers35626 күн бұрын
It is apparent that many people who commented and said they hear no difference need to find a different hobby. Helen Keller would hear a difference.
@charlesmiller628127 күн бұрын
The difference is obvious even on my laptop. The Deulund are nicely balanced but muffled, congested, as if a wool blanket over the speakers. The Nordost are open, clear, present, with space and air. Imaging with Deulund is left to right, that's about it. Imagine with Nordost the vocals and instruments occupy their own space in the sound stage with air around them. Not night and day but big enough it takes like 3 seconds to figure it out. The difference in price being worth the improvement is another matter. But the Nordost are clearly better, no doubt about it.
@simmobb228 күн бұрын
Clearly B
@kevindillinger369928 күн бұрын
I listened to the song at 3:24 and at 7:10 both the exact same time in the song but different cables. I am not hearing much at all.
@kevindillinger369928 күн бұрын
And I am not a cable denier.
@garyolshan4177Ай бұрын
i just got an amazing Gold Note 1000 CS player and wth Paradigm speakers the sound of the CD is off the charts. I can actually "feel" the instruments
@philipw7058Ай бұрын
Tube vs solid state 😂ha children must play
@Homer19521Ай бұрын
I like the Wiccan Pentacle volume control
@rezasayar3441Ай бұрын
By way of KZread #2 SEEMS FALL BITWEEN TYBE AND SOLUTION . #2 FOR ME
@tictocbang7443Ай бұрын
1 impresses, 2 engages. 2 for me.
@christianb.godell361Ай бұрын
Why the hell are my computer loudspeakers not able to reproduce the broken-in Accordos?
@maverictomcatАй бұрын
the day the music die
@scamwatchdogАй бұрын
Happy song…..
@webking185Ай бұрын
Every audiophile must own a Luxman 590
@jbsaudioАй бұрын
sounds great!
@JLeeePАй бұрын
Shootouts are meaningless if you don’t ID which gear is playing and when. No one has learned anything other than both pieces sound great for different reasons. Thumbs down.
@CarlVanDoren61Ай бұрын
WBT connections 😊 $40k?
@Bill.KАй бұрын
Not quite... the US price on the Suncoast site shows $64,625.
@CarlVanDoren61Ай бұрын
Swiss speakers 🔊 Swiss amplifier makes sense 😮
@yurifrags7564Ай бұрын
Question, a lot of these high-end amps and preamps, how come they don't include a good power cord if they want you to use it with that piece of equipment?
@highendaudioАй бұрын
Because Everyone has their favorite
@yurifrags7564Ай бұрын
Most of this stuff that's measured cant be heard, thus snake oil
@yurifrags7564Ай бұрын
Lol, rich people problem, these cables dont make a $25,000 difference, SNAKE OIL IS HARD HERE
@thomascolato222Ай бұрын
Much preferred the 2nd amp. The instrumental and vocal textures sounded more fleshed out with a greater sense of image density and solidity. With the first amp I heard more of the transient attack of instruments with a greater sense of speed but in comparison for me there was a hollow quality to the sound. Instrument and vocal info- sounded thin and not as fleshed out. The 2nd amp for me just sounded more textured that gave the music a organic and human quality. YMMV
@Hi-Fi369Ай бұрын
Both sound great 👍🏼 but No.1 🎬 gets my vote cause the Solid State the Soulution is a better match with the speakers 🔊 bit more details, punchy, energetic and the presentation of the music on track 1 and 2 was really nice. But if I choose voices and fluid flavor I choose No.2 🎬 which is the VAC more smoothly, liquid, relaxing tube flavor 👽✌🏼✨🛸
@barskuleli8612Ай бұрын
I am sorry but internet streaming is not working as you said. It is not a radio signal. There is no EMI or RFI on internet streaming. And sorry again but it is technically not possible the cd is better than 24bit 192kHz. Cd is giving 0 and 1 values and it is same for the streaming. Your age has finished already. People don’t believe these kind of subjective “test”s. If you want to make test show us signal graphs from both source under exactly same conditions.
Пікірлер
Pretty good taste! AVID is another proof of that.
I don't buy any of this streaming nonsense excuse the pun. CD and LP stays best
Good
Is it the Apheta 3 and is it using the internal Luxman phono stage? Is it a good match and powerful enough or would an Aria would be better?
Yes, yes!
How is the recording being made? These songs are such well-recorded tracks but don't sound nearly as great here. I'm sure KZread has a part in it, but some other channels seem to have much better youtube sound quality IME.
@@JRadian quick and dirty with an iPhone.
This is not << Unboxing >> it's just opening the box .
@@Badassvidsz you’re free to come and help. One guy can’t do it alone.
@@highendaudio Nah you can do it i know it .
Mike, when will you have the whole electronics in Tobian?
In about 2 weeks. We have a piece coming that isn’t even released yet. Can’t wait!
Are both these class A or either?
A great sounding set up, Mike! You really do have excellent equipment for every taste.
Mike, Tonality coming thru KZread is Exceptionally Good! Could Listen All Day to this System Synergy!💯
How do they compare to Magico, B&W, Clarisys?
@@mikelautermilch8939 completely different. These are high efficiency horns. Bring your favorite 300b SET amp!
Congrats on the new line of speakers & electronics👍🏻💪🏻
@@gvukmanovic thanks!
Let's get one thing straight right off the bat these two amps both sound fantastic paired with those awesome speakers. I listened several times before i could decide, in the end I had to pick 2 and I am not sure why I thought it had more realistic tonality like on cymbals and possibly knitted the music together better.😊
What a great memory. This system was dialed! Our great dealer Audio Alternatives made this sing!
The fact that ripping a CD track and playing it from the streamer cancels the difference between the two sources makes me think the difference doesn't lie between streaming and CD per se, but rather between that particular streamer and that particular CD transport. That said, i do tend to agree that the fewer steps you have between source and speakers, the better off you are. Personally i don't stream. Partly because i fundamentally disagree with not owning your music and i hate the direction the whole music industry is heading with this, and partly because US regulators seem to believe that the best way to combat piracy in Latin America is to prevent people in these countries from having access to legal hi res streaming (go figure), which means Tidal, Qobuz etc are locked away... In my experience, comparing playback of the same track from a CD (Meridian 500 transport into Chord Qutest dac via coax spdif) with playback from the same track ripped to FLAC (regular PC into same dac via asynchronous usb, playback on WMP) reveals subtle differences (transport sounds more "liquid" if that makes any sense, vs a slightly "drier" presentation from the pc). However, both are equally satisfying and i'd be hard pressed to say which of the two is "better". Choice in this case would merely be a matter of preference tbh
I am a fan of B&W. BR
Close up highlights the blue, but not the metallic flake. Nice!
Awesome!!!
Maybe 1 day you have coffee/caffeine, and another day you have whiskey/wine...this make difference what you hear, too. 😛 Also make Big Bertha look like Beauty Queen...until next day, LOL! Maybe she "burn-in" after some hours/days, too. 😛 Hope she not as $$$$ as the cables! It's more fun to "burn-in" your brain cells with the drinks and just enjoy our music than to wait for silly cables to magically change molecules structure and electric properties from "burn-in"?! We can go buy lots of good drinks/food and fly round world for months to see real LIVE concerts with our favorite musicians & singers for the price of some cables here! :) I still don't understand WHAT makes any good construction cable sound different, with or without the burn-in? Secrets of the universe me thinks...no one ever know or tell me secret! Maybe Jesus know everything but he never come here to tell me either?! He piss me off now! I'm musician...drums/percussion & saxophone 30 years...and go to pro recording studios. When I ask to change cables, they look at me funny and point to EQ knobs instead! I try, and WOW they DO change sound really nice instead of wait again for silly $$$$ cable to "burn-in" or change another cable again. Have cake and eat it too with EQ they say. :) What I do if my $$$$ cable "burn-in" WRONG direction and make sound worse and I stuck there with sh!tty unnatural sound of my drums and sax???!!! I go buy another $$$$ cable 10x again til find right one??? Which one perfect synergy in MY system, NO ONE tell me...got to buy buy buy buy! Everyone have my money now, not me! F' this rectangular noise! Again, let's go travel around world, eat & drink good and go to LIVE music...share good feeling experience with other people not sit at home "listening to cables" for $$$$ and looking at blank wall alone, so silly, haha! Cheers
its annoys me (as someone looking for a new disc spinner) that Luxman are terrible a matching aesthetics and case shape across their ranges. They have absolutely no components that have the same casework, button arrangement and colour schemes. I have the 509X also, and theres almost no disc spinner that actually looks like its properly matches in their range.
Nice ❤ thx for sharing 👍
piegeons, the only species that will never disappear
Very nice Mike! Your setup is very neat and in it's place. Do you find yourself using the R2R or the Turntable more?
Thank you. Probably turntable.
As long as there are pigeons...
So, how did you go with the theta and gamma cables ? How did they stand in compare to their previous equivalent generation of cables ? Did you guys tried the USB cables as well?
Mike, What would you say is your favorite/s speakers with Block Audio? Since you have had Block for a while in your showroom, you probably have most time spent with so many! Thanks
Hi! I’m going to say, our favorite with Block is Kharma. Our clients feel that way too. Folks who come in and demo. They just love the combo.
@@highendaudio Good to know, thanks for that!
cmon i dont know what all that tech jumbo means just get to the point
It is apparent that many people who commented and said they hear no difference need to find a different hobby. Helen Keller would hear a difference.
The difference is obvious even on my laptop. The Deulund are nicely balanced but muffled, congested, as if a wool blanket over the speakers. The Nordost are open, clear, present, with space and air. Imaging with Deulund is left to right, that's about it. Imagine with Nordost the vocals and instruments occupy their own space in the sound stage with air around them. Not night and day but big enough it takes like 3 seconds to figure it out. The difference in price being worth the improvement is another matter. But the Nordost are clearly better, no doubt about it.
Clearly B
I listened to the song at 3:24 and at 7:10 both the exact same time in the song but different cables. I am not hearing much at all.
And I am not a cable denier.
i just got an amazing Gold Note 1000 CS player and wth Paradigm speakers the sound of the CD is off the charts. I can actually "feel" the instruments
Tube vs solid state 😂ha children must play
I like the Wiccan Pentacle volume control
By way of KZread #2 SEEMS FALL BITWEEN TYBE AND SOLUTION . #2 FOR ME
1 impresses, 2 engages. 2 for me.
Why the hell are my computer loudspeakers not able to reproduce the broken-in Accordos?
the day the music die
Happy song…..
Every audiophile must own a Luxman 590
sounds great!
Shootouts are meaningless if you don’t ID which gear is playing and when. No one has learned anything other than both pieces sound great for different reasons. Thumbs down.
WBT connections 😊 $40k?
Not quite... the US price on the Suncoast site shows $64,625.
Swiss speakers 🔊 Swiss amplifier makes sense 😮
Question, a lot of these high-end amps and preamps, how come they don't include a good power cord if they want you to use it with that piece of equipment?
Because Everyone has their favorite
Most of this stuff that's measured cant be heard, thus snake oil
Lol, rich people problem, these cables dont make a $25,000 difference, SNAKE OIL IS HARD HERE
Much preferred the 2nd amp. The instrumental and vocal textures sounded more fleshed out with a greater sense of image density and solidity. With the first amp I heard more of the transient attack of instruments with a greater sense of speed but in comparison for me there was a hollow quality to the sound. Instrument and vocal info- sounded thin and not as fleshed out. The 2nd amp for me just sounded more textured that gave the music a organic and human quality. YMMV
Both sound great 👍🏼 but No.1 🎬 gets my vote cause the Solid State the Soulution is a better match with the speakers 🔊 bit more details, punchy, energetic and the presentation of the music on track 1 and 2 was really nice. But if I choose voices and fluid flavor I choose No.2 🎬 which is the VAC more smoothly, liquid, relaxing tube flavor 👽✌🏼✨🛸
I am sorry but internet streaming is not working as you said. It is not a radio signal. There is no EMI or RFI on internet streaming. And sorry again but it is technically not possible the cd is better than 24bit 192kHz. Cd is giving 0 and 1 values and it is same for the streaming. Your age has finished already. People don’t believe these kind of subjective “test”s. If you want to make test show us signal graphs from both source under exactly same conditions.
Hilarious. You know so little…