It's crazy that a lot of other videos make Shakers out to be the worst or weirdest denomination, and this video says otherwise because I thought it was beautiful People like to stim when they are anxious, so maybe Ann Lee was on to something and "shaking your sins away" was an 18th century way of doing that
@KadagАй бұрын
I was researching the whole Shaker thing and the life of Ann Lee before seeing this. And it makes sense now. If these are all completely lifelong celibate but vital intelligent men and women you put them in the same room with one another facing each other singing and moving they're going to feel something the transformation of that sexual energy that's natural to all human beings into song and dance and transcendent thoughts they're going to be having Kundalini they're going to be having mystical experiences. Good times.
@francescocantoni5665Ай бұрын
Thank you for the upload. I find the movements born in the context of the radical reformation, like Shakers and their "cousins" Quakers, really fascinating. While I've watched records of contemporary worship in Sabbathday Lake, this reinterpretation is maybe the thing that looks more like what weas depicted in the old engravings and I can see a vague resemblance to the modern apostolic movements in which assemblies people also dance but they are accompanied by music played with musical instruments and not acapella. At the end, correlation between worshhip and music can be found in many cultures, spacing from king David to derviches tourneur.
@reriuqne0-ny1erАй бұрын
Lovely, but unfortunately just seems fake.
@elizabethdavis35743 ай бұрын
Misleading. It's not a Shaker worship service but a theatrical performance. Fine as that, but NOT a documentary and does not portray either original or present shaker worship
@jasonsmith74164 ай бұрын
Let us all remember this is a theatrical performance by the museum and is to give one the idea of what Shaker worship was like…..
@patrickmcinerney94913 ай бұрын
How do you think it differed?
@jasonsmith74163 ай бұрын
@@patrickmcinerney9491 well - you can go worship with the shaker community every Sunday - so that’s a great place to start. Alllbeit - the form of worship has changed over the years which really has more to do with the physical capacity of the members as they aged. Sung Shaker music in its received forms tends to lack musically in the traditional sense - there was no perfect harmony etc. Again, there was a time when they did adhere to a more structured dance - but has continued to changed with the requirements of the community. The short answer - this is a lovely presentation.
@wynterginger5 ай бұрын
I’m from Shaker Heights, Ohio…. We are a city founded by Shakers and learn about them in school.
@stefos64316 ай бұрын
Shakers and Quakers were called so because of their reactions to the Holy Spirit in them during worship and other times.
@seaotter443910 ай бұрын
Come to Zion, sin-sick souls in sorrow bound! Lay your cares before the altar, where true healing may be found! Shout alleluia, alleluia - in praise resounds o'er land and sea, All who will may come and share the glories of this jubilee! I'm on my way to Zion, that peaceful, happy mansion Where life is ever flowing and death is never known Come on, my well believed, Ye whom the Lord hath saved. Let not your heart be troubled, You'll soon arrive at home! O, the beautiful treasures laid up for the wise, How precious the value, how glorious the prize! Far brighter than diamonds on prince's brow, And richer than royalty can bestow! I have a little drum that Mother gave to me, The prettiest little drum that ever you did see! (Rum, ta-ta-tum, rum ta-ta-tum tum) (throughout the chorus) I'll drum night and day, I'll drum night and day I'll call volunteers to fight sin away! Who will bow and bend like the willow, Who will turn and twist and reel? In the gale of simple freedom, From the bower of union flowing? Who will drink the wine of power, dripping down like a shower, Pride and bondage all forgetting? Mother's wine is freely found Oh, ho I will have it! I will bow and bend to get it! I'll be reeling, twisting, turning Shake out all the starch and stiff'ning! Though I speak with the tongues of men, and of angels, and have not love, I am become as a sounding brass or a tinkling cymbal. Love suffereth long, and is kind. Love envieth not. Love wanteth not itself, is not puffed up, doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not its own, is not easily provoked. Thinketh no evil, rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth. Beareth all things, hopeth all things, believeth all things and endureth all things. Now abideth faith, hope, and love. But the greatest of these is love. Love, o, love, is sweetly flowing On its banks a wind is growing, These a mother is bestowing, Love, love, heavenly love! Come, ye children, freely gather Unto love and bless each other, This will bind our hearts together In love, love, heavenly love! Put your hands to work, and your hearts to God! (Three times) I-ne, vi-ne, violet! Ee-ne, see-ne vingo pret! Y-fen, wa-fem, wa-ne voo! O-le, mo-le, minzy two! Aoren, waoren, wany vo, mother's love is even so! Oo-ne, e-ne, i-ne vay, now in love we'll dance and play! I will bow and be simple, I will bow and be free, I will bow and be humble, yea, bow like the willow tree. I will bow, this is the token, I will wear the easy yoke, I will bow and be broken, yea, I'll fall upon the rock! Tis a gift to be simple, 'tis a gift to be free, 'Tis the gift to come down where we ought to be, And when we find ourselves in the place just right, 'Twill be in the valley of love and delight. When true simplicity is gain'd, To bow and to bend we shan't be asham'd, To turn, turn will be our delight, Till by turning, turning we come round right! Living souls, let's be marching on our journey to heaven With our lamps trimmed and burning, with the oil of truth! Let us join the Heavenly Chorus and unite with our parents, They will lead us on to Heaven, in the path of righteousness!
@TomorrowWeLive10 ай бұрын
I'd love to see this recreated in a movie.
@mr.fahrenheit70098 ай бұрын
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@theodorechavez7058 Жыл бұрын
Thank You. Very Informative.
@zizipop3703 Жыл бұрын
Its sad to see such beauty and at the same time to go against the very first commandment "be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth" - false doctrine is corrupting and brought about the Shakers demise! What in the world were they thinking? God created sex and afterwards said it was all good! We do not need to improve on His design. Sad indeed! Aberrations will not withstand the test of time not matter how intriguing.
@heatherkuhn8326 Жыл бұрын
As a Shaker enthusiast, a singer, and a movement professional who practices contemplative movement including shaking, I do wish this was more emotionally honest and that the singing wasn't so classically affected.
@jasonsmith74163 ай бұрын
It was hard for me as well - but remember it’s just a museum presentation - not the real thing.
@koan91 Жыл бұрын
??? Mental???
@bendeguz7629 Жыл бұрын
Good acting...
@lordstatiik8532 Жыл бұрын
Occult worship . Shakers are the creators of our modern English language and designed it so that we constantly cast spells on ourselves through regular everyday speech . Do your homework There was no William Shakespeare Sir Francis bacon was a spear shaker along with all the other spear shakers at the time they created a fictional character named William Shakespeare so that they could introduce over 1700 new words into the English language all of which are derives from ancient ruins.. The English language is a witch language. All you need to do is search for what I’m talking about ..
@KendellsRightHere Жыл бұрын
The sun shines bright on my old Kentucky home, til summer the darkies are gay.
@KendellsRightHere Жыл бұрын
Such beautiful customs from such beautiful people ❤
@vidarbonsak7855 Жыл бұрын
I came here after hearing indie band Magnetic Fields' version of a shaker song. Never heard about them before. Very fascinating and interesting approach to faith.
@tylerdrown Жыл бұрын
thank you for turning me on to the Magnetic Field's last album, I love 69 Love Songs but hadn't listened to their more recent catalog until I happened upon your comment.
@vidarbonsak7855 Жыл бұрын
@@tylerdrownMagnetic Fields' album 'Quickies' is in my opinion their best since they made what is my number one favorite album of all time '69 Love Songs'. And they got to be the first band ever to make a song about Shakerism.
@memyselfandeye76 Жыл бұрын
There ia quite a contrast between newer and older comments. Older comments show more process of thought whereas recent comments, not so much. It demonstrates the evolution of KZread and how comment style and quality has changed over the years. Having said that, this is NOT a reenactment of Shaker worship; it is an artistic interpretation that was choreographed and arranged by Salli Terri.
@productamadeus87453 күн бұрын
I assumed it looked like a movie production. This is the danger you get when you turn what should be a faith issue into a performative set of things you have to do to be saved.
@williamcutter3346 Жыл бұрын
who are the composers? arrangers? why are they not credited?
@michelleknowles700 Жыл бұрын
This was quite interesting to watch.
@zebdoz333 Жыл бұрын
Well I can see where the Pentecostal church gets sow of their moves, glad I am not religious myself
@UNOwen1 Жыл бұрын
I’m NOT a religious person, but I am awed by the beauty of the symmetry, simplicity. It really is unlike anything I’ve ever seen. Stunning.
@SRose-vp6ew Жыл бұрын
Psalm 149:3&4 Let them praise his name with dancing and make music to him with timbrel and harp. For the LORD takes delight in his people; he crowns the humble with victory. Zephaniah 3:17 The Lord your God is with you, the Mighty Warrior who saves. He will take great delight in you; in his love he will no longer rebuke you, but will rejoice over you with singing.” And from John 3:14 Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up, 15 that everyone who believes may have eternal life in him.” 16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. 19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. 21 But whoever LIVES by the Truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God.
@pdstor Жыл бұрын
Watch any of the Raretonga Catholics or old Orthodox in Ethiopia, Egypt, Greece, India. Christian services were more or less like this until the second of these so-called Great Awakenings.
@pdstor Жыл бұрын
Watch the old Scottish Calvinists sing the 17th century Psalmody for that matter!
@bradleyscarton3931 Жыл бұрын
The Shakers were radical in their thinking in their day. Both men and women were of equal footing, believed in natural health, against slavery and prejudice, were pacifists. They believed they practiced true Christianity.
@Mr91495osh Жыл бұрын
Didn’t they get the name SHAKERS from their style of dancing?
@paulmichael7782 жыл бұрын
So you hear my words not.
@paulmichael7782 жыл бұрын
Putin Russia is your evil eye. As your the evil eye as all you listen for is what you can hear an understand evil only.
@paulmichael7782 жыл бұрын
God so still love the whole world the Ukraine Nation military still is an so is the world.
@discountmike88562 жыл бұрын
C&C Music Factory.
@crazygrainger20062 жыл бұрын
It's sad that Shaker Worship and other traditions have died out. Meanwhile, the white fella in Chechnya have held their Sufi Zikr worship in the face of persecution.
@aquajuwel70982 жыл бұрын
I find it very interesting, on the other hand, a little spooky actually. Especially with the screaming and wild behavior in the worship, very similar to some evangelical Christians today, like the Toronto blessing movement.
@gaymichaelis75812 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you some, Aqua Juwel! Does that not drive the spirit away perhaps?!
@michael24taggart2 жыл бұрын
1:14 - Come to Zion 4:06 - I’m on my Way to Zion 5:42 - Oh, the Beautiful Treasures 7:56 - I Have a Little Drum 8:30 - Who Will Bow and Bend Like a Willow 9:31 - Love, Oh Love, is Sweetly Flowing 13:21 - Ina Vina Violet 14:00 - I Will Bow and be Simple 15:16 - Simple Gifts 16:45 - Living Souls 17:49 - Finale
@Mulberry20002 жыл бұрын
Amazing.
@dizzo952 жыл бұрын
Jesus has returned to us in 1980 on Earth as foretold he would and we have to help restore his and his families bodies in Jerusalem through science as the resurrection of the dead has not happened yet. ..as for the events described in the Book of Revelation that has happened already..and yes I believe it was Muhammad that was the return of the Christ Spirit as a lion as Jesus was the lamb ,,,fore his followers will bring him back as well in the future for it is just and Holy, God does not do evil things...6000 years from Adam was the year 2000 AD soon we will have the empowered child culture with robotic parents to help us in our work. " at the University of Toronto, which concluded that while the names are not uncommon, the conservative odds that such names would be found together in any one tomb around are (depending on variables) from 600 to 1 to 1,000,000 to 1 in favor of its being authentic " Wikipedia article on the Talpiot Tomb The tomb in Talpiot, excavated in 1980 during salvage archaeology, originally contained ten ossuaries - bone boxes for secondary burial. Of the ten, one vanished - presumably stolen - right after it had been catalogued. This may be the tomb of Jesus' brother James (see James Ossuary), although such claim is refuted by the professor who oversaw the archaeological work. Of the other nine, six were inscribed with names. As translated in and , they read as follows: Ossuary #80/503 Y'shua bar Yosef - Aramaic for "Jesus son of Joseph". Ossuary #80/505 Maria - written in Aramaic script, but a Latin form of the Hebrew name "Miriam" ("Mary")[3] Ossuary #80/504 Yose - a diminutive of "Joseph" mentioned (in its Greek form ιωσης "Joses") as the name of one of Jesus's brothers in the New Testament (Mark 6:3) Ossuary #80/501 Yehuda bar Yeshua - possibly Aramaic for "Judah son of Jesus". Ossuary #80/500 Mariamene e Mara - according to the filmmakers this is Greek for "Mary known as the master." The similar name "Mariamne" is found in the Acts of Philip. Francois Bovon, professor of the history of religion at Harvard University has said, based on his study of that work, "I do not believe that Mariamne is the real name of Mary of Magdalene. Mariamne is, besides Maria or Mariam, a possible Greek equivalent, attested by Josephus, Origen, and the Acts of Philip, for the Semitic Myriam."[4] Matya - Hebrew for 'Matthew' - not claimed to be Matthew the Evangelist but "possibly a husband of one of the women in an unmarked ossuary". The filmmakers claim that there is evidence that Mary mother of Jesus had many relatives named Matthew. The Imitation of Christ is fine. We can clone Jesus now as a normal Human Being but you have been warned unless he is raised Jewish. If he imitates the return of the Christ Spirit the 3rd time as the 2nd seems to have been Muhammad in Revelations again we could be in trouble...Muhammad was the Christ Spirit like the lion as Jesus was the lamb. There no longer is the Holy of Holies in the Temple, it was destroyed in 70 AD. From Wikipedia: " The temptation of Christ is a biblical narrative detailed in the gospels of Matthew, Mark and Luke. After being baptized by John the Baptist, Jesus was tempted by the devil after 40 days and nights of fasting in the Judaean Desert. At the time, Satan came to Jesus and tried to tempt him. Jesus having refused each temptation, Satan then departed and Jesus returned to Galilee to begin his ministry. During this entire time of spiritual battle, Jesus was fasting. Jesus was crucified right after this happened: John 2:13-16 "13 The Passover of the Jews was near, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 14 In the temple he found people selling cattle, sheep, and doves, and the money changers seated at their tables. 15 Making a whip of cords, he drove all of them out of the temple, both the sheep and the cattle. He also poured out the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. 16 He told those who were selling the doves, “Take these things out of here! Stop making my Father’s house a marketplace!” (I guess Jesus didn't like the exchange rate that day) The root of all evil is the need for food.
@philipmccarthy49752 жыл бұрын
They forgot to have sex. Therefore they died off.
@katelynncohick42812 жыл бұрын
the songs what are there names besides come to zion and simple gifts
@ivankaedinger36312 жыл бұрын
Lovely but I wish to see real shakers dance, no singing and choreography.
@8polyglot2 жыл бұрын
Shakerism wherein they 'shake' their sins away in ecstatic dance and song. Very interesting and an enduring legacy of religion and faith in America.
@thursoberwick1948 Жыл бұрын
I reckon the real thing was wilder than this.
@marymcgarvey41533 жыл бұрын
It’s amazing to think that this community thrives without sex although the Method of Prayer is almost like dancing with a lot of interaction with the opposite sex.
@barryrhoads87162 жыл бұрын
Doomed from the outset by thoughts of celibacy and complete separation of men and women. Socialism at its finest and still doomed to failure if nothing else through commerce.
@Xorobabel2 жыл бұрын
They no longer exist.
@annaselbdritt79162 жыл бұрын
@@barryrhoads8716 that's not what socialism means. Please, I beg you, please just google the definition of socialism.
@thepapistyourmotherwarnedy7522 жыл бұрын
@@Xorobabel not quite, there’s still a community hanging on called Sabathday Lake
@rowanhunter21572 жыл бұрын
@@thepapistyourmotherwarnedy752 Yes, Sabbathday Lake hangs on, there are only 3 brothers now.
@marymcgarvey41533 жыл бұрын
According to Erik Reese in his book “Utopia Drive”, many Shakers were women because they were widows and abused wives with nowhere to go. Orphans of cholera outbreaks were brought there too.
@gaymichaelis75812 жыл бұрын
Very good point! Makes sense! Thank you!
@virginiataylor40383 жыл бұрын
My Great Great Great-grandfather(3 greats) was a Shaker at South Union Kentucky. He was there until he died sometime between 1845 and 1850. My great great-grandfather(son of the afore mentioned) was 15 yrs old when his father died and lived in the community with his father until then. My great great-grandfather left the community as a teenager. I think the son did't agree with celibacy and at the age of 15 boys were considered adults during that time. He left the Shakers after his fathers death. Teenage hormones maybe. My great great-grandfather married but eventually returned to the community sometime before the Civil War started. He left his wife and children there and joined the Union Army sometime after the Civil War broke out. The Shakers believed in the equality of the races and the equality of the sexes. They also did not believe in participating in war. President Lincoln did give the Shakers immunity from serving in the Civil War. However, my great great-grandfather did serve in the Union Army during the Civil War while my great great-grandmother and some of their children(they had 13-- 10 lived to adulthood) continued to stay with the Shaker community. After the war was over, he returned. Not sure when they left the community but they eventually did. I am not sure that they ever converted though they were allowed to live and work in the community during the war. Both my great great-grandfather & great great-grandmother died in 1915 within days of each other. They were in their 80's. They are buried somewhere in or near Logan County. At their time of death, they had their own place of domicile. A cousin did a genealogy research of our ancestors and found that our great great greatgrandfather and his son had lived with the Shakers at South Union and this explanation seems to be a part of our Ancestral Taylor history. Not sure as to where some of the other children of my great great-grandfather decided to settle. My great grandfather eventually moved to Tennessee after his wife died giving birth to my grandfather. I think my great grandfather was probably never involved in the Shaker movement. He had a very young daughter & baby son when he moved to Tennessee after the death of his first wife. He procured employment managing a small country store owned by a relative and remarried within two years. His second wife was the daughter of a Baptist clergyman(I was told this part about his second wife by my maternal grandfather. I think my maternal grandfather did not know about the Kentucky Shaker History of the Taylors'.
@tango-bravo3 жыл бұрын
Can we get these lyrics??
@katherinewilliams18753 жыл бұрын
If this is an accurate rendition of their religious services they seem very spiritual and pious until they go into fits of madness. Reading about beliefs it’s clear they aren’t Christians. They seem like spiritualists.
@dankeith65223 жыл бұрын
I thought that anyone who believes in the christ, and especially those who await his second arrival(cuz they think he died, came back, and ascended) is, by definition a christian. I believe it is called a sect, much like catholics, methodists, lutherans, and the like. Those who worship or await christ. And they thought of themselves as christians. So, are you the be all of what is christian? Or just not my christian so it's not? Cus I'm not christian, he sounds like a cool dude, like what he said, but I notice alot of christians can't even agree that they worship the same guy. So confusing. Then who would go to heaven?
@gaymichaelis75812 жыл бұрын
Dan, point well taken here!!! I think they were very much Christians! I am a Christian, and I would say they definitely are/were!!! Also!
@michaelciccone21943 жыл бұрын
Sad that men today don't have the desire to live a single chaste celibate life.
@dunge03 жыл бұрын
Well, babies are not brought by storks, are they? It's not sad, it's natural and healthy to choose to live family life and have sex with your wife. There are still many men who choose to live single and celibacy and if it's their choice, it's alright. However, we can't expect all people to live this way, humanity would not last for long 😉
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These people didn't fuck.
I have no words to describe it, delightful!
It's crazy that a lot of other videos make Shakers out to be the worst or weirdest denomination, and this video says otherwise because I thought it was beautiful People like to stim when they are anxious, so maybe Ann Lee was on to something and "shaking your sins away" was an 18th century way of doing that
I was researching the whole Shaker thing and the life of Ann Lee before seeing this. And it makes sense now. If these are all completely lifelong celibate but vital intelligent men and women you put them in the same room with one another facing each other singing and moving they're going to feel something the transformation of that sexual energy that's natural to all human beings into song and dance and transcendent thoughts they're going to be having Kundalini they're going to be having mystical experiences. Good times.
Thank you for the upload. I find the movements born in the context of the radical reformation, like Shakers and their "cousins" Quakers, really fascinating. While I've watched records of contemporary worship in Sabbathday Lake, this reinterpretation is maybe the thing that looks more like what weas depicted in the old engravings and I can see a vague resemblance to the modern apostolic movements in which assemblies people also dance but they are accompanied by music played with musical instruments and not acapella. At the end, correlation between worshhip and music can be found in many cultures, spacing from king David to derviches tourneur.
Lovely, but unfortunately just seems fake.
Misleading. It's not a Shaker worship service but a theatrical performance. Fine as that, but NOT a documentary and does not portray either original or present shaker worship
Let us all remember this is a theatrical performance by the museum and is to give one the idea of what Shaker worship was like…..
How do you think it differed?
@@patrickmcinerney9491 well - you can go worship with the shaker community every Sunday - so that’s a great place to start. Alllbeit - the form of worship has changed over the years which really has more to do with the physical capacity of the members as they aged. Sung Shaker music in its received forms tends to lack musically in the traditional sense - there was no perfect harmony etc. Again, there was a time when they did adhere to a more structured dance - but has continued to changed with the requirements of the community. The short answer - this is a lovely presentation.
I’m from Shaker Heights, Ohio…. We are a city founded by Shakers and learn about them in school.
Shakers and Quakers were called so because of their reactions to the Holy Spirit in them during worship and other times.
Come to Zion, sin-sick souls in sorrow bound! Lay your cares before the altar, where true healing may be found! Shout alleluia, alleluia - in praise resounds o'er land and sea, All who will may come and share the glories of this jubilee! I'm on my way to Zion, that peaceful, happy mansion Where life is ever flowing and death is never known Come on, my well believed, Ye whom the Lord hath saved. Let not your heart be troubled, You'll soon arrive at home! O, the beautiful treasures laid up for the wise, How precious the value, how glorious the prize! Far brighter than diamonds on prince's brow, And richer than royalty can bestow! I have a little drum that Mother gave to me, The prettiest little drum that ever you did see! (Rum, ta-ta-tum, rum ta-ta-tum tum) (throughout the chorus) I'll drum night and day, I'll drum night and day I'll call volunteers to fight sin away! Who will bow and bend like the willow, Who will turn and twist and reel? In the gale of simple freedom, From the bower of union flowing? Who will drink the wine of power, dripping down like a shower, Pride and bondage all forgetting? Mother's wine is freely found Oh, ho I will have it! I will bow and bend to get it! I'll be reeling, twisting, turning Shake out all the starch and stiff'ning! Though I speak with the tongues of men, and of angels, and have not love, I am become as a sounding brass or a tinkling cymbal. Love suffereth long, and is kind. Love envieth not. Love wanteth not itself, is not puffed up, doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not its own, is not easily provoked. Thinketh no evil, rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth. Beareth all things, hopeth all things, believeth all things and endureth all things. Now abideth faith, hope, and love. But the greatest of these is love. Love, o, love, is sweetly flowing On its banks a wind is growing, These a mother is bestowing, Love, love, heavenly love! Come, ye children, freely gather Unto love and bless each other, This will bind our hearts together In love, love, heavenly love! Put your hands to work, and your hearts to God! (Three times) I-ne, vi-ne, violet! Ee-ne, see-ne vingo pret! Y-fen, wa-fem, wa-ne voo! O-le, mo-le, minzy two! Aoren, waoren, wany vo, mother's love is even so! Oo-ne, e-ne, i-ne vay, now in love we'll dance and play! I will bow and be simple, I will bow and be free, I will bow and be humble, yea, bow like the willow tree. I will bow, this is the token, I will wear the easy yoke, I will bow and be broken, yea, I'll fall upon the rock! Tis a gift to be simple, 'tis a gift to be free, 'Tis the gift to come down where we ought to be, And when we find ourselves in the place just right, 'Twill be in the valley of love and delight. When true simplicity is gain'd, To bow and to bend we shan't be asham'd, To turn, turn will be our delight, Till by turning, turning we come round right! Living souls, let's be marching on our journey to heaven With our lamps trimmed and burning, with the oil of truth! Let us join the Heavenly Chorus and unite with our parents, They will lead us on to Heaven, in the path of righteousness!
I'd love to see this recreated in a movie.
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Thank You. Very Informative.
Its sad to see such beauty and at the same time to go against the very first commandment "be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth" - false doctrine is corrupting and brought about the Shakers demise! What in the world were they thinking? God created sex and afterwards said it was all good! We do not need to improve on His design. Sad indeed! Aberrations will not withstand the test of time not matter how intriguing.
As a Shaker enthusiast, a singer, and a movement professional who practices contemplative movement including shaking, I do wish this was more emotionally honest and that the singing wasn't so classically affected.
It was hard for me as well - but remember it’s just a museum presentation - not the real thing.
??? Mental???
Good acting...
Occult worship . Shakers are the creators of our modern English language and designed it so that we constantly cast spells on ourselves through regular everyday speech . Do your homework There was no William Shakespeare Sir Francis bacon was a spear shaker along with all the other spear shakers at the time they created a fictional character named William Shakespeare so that they could introduce over 1700 new words into the English language all of which are derives from ancient ruins.. The English language is a witch language. All you need to do is search for what I’m talking about ..
The sun shines bright on my old Kentucky home, til summer the darkies are gay.
Such beautiful customs from such beautiful people ❤
I came here after hearing indie band Magnetic Fields' version of a shaker song. Never heard about them before. Very fascinating and interesting approach to faith.
thank you for turning me on to the Magnetic Field's last album, I love 69 Love Songs but hadn't listened to their more recent catalog until I happened upon your comment.
@@tylerdrownMagnetic Fields' album 'Quickies' is in my opinion their best since they made what is my number one favorite album of all time '69 Love Songs'. And they got to be the first band ever to make a song about Shakerism.
There ia quite a contrast between newer and older comments. Older comments show more process of thought whereas recent comments, not so much. It demonstrates the evolution of KZread and how comment style and quality has changed over the years. Having said that, this is NOT a reenactment of Shaker worship; it is an artistic interpretation that was choreographed and arranged by Salli Terri.
I assumed it looked like a movie production. This is the danger you get when you turn what should be a faith issue into a performative set of things you have to do to be saved.
who are the composers? arrangers? why are they not credited?
This was quite interesting to watch.
Well I can see where the Pentecostal church gets sow of their moves, glad I am not religious myself
I’m NOT a religious person, but I am awed by the beauty of the symmetry, simplicity. It really is unlike anything I’ve ever seen. Stunning.
Psalm 149:3&4 Let them praise his name with dancing and make music to him with timbrel and harp. For the LORD takes delight in his people; he crowns the humble with victory. Zephaniah 3:17 The Lord your God is with you, the Mighty Warrior who saves. He will take great delight in you; in his love he will no longer rebuke you, but will rejoice over you with singing.” And from John 3:14 Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up, 15 that everyone who believes may have eternal life in him.” 16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. 19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. 21 But whoever LIVES by the Truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God.
Watch any of the Raretonga Catholics or old Orthodox in Ethiopia, Egypt, Greece, India. Christian services were more or less like this until the second of these so-called Great Awakenings.
Watch the old Scottish Calvinists sing the 17th century Psalmody for that matter!
The Shakers were radical in their thinking in their day. Both men and women were of equal footing, believed in natural health, against slavery and prejudice, were pacifists. They believed they practiced true Christianity.
Didn’t they get the name SHAKERS from their style of dancing?
So you hear my words not.
Putin Russia is your evil eye. As your the evil eye as all you listen for is what you can hear an understand evil only.
God so still love the whole world the Ukraine Nation military still is an so is the world.
C&C Music Factory.
It's sad that Shaker Worship and other traditions have died out. Meanwhile, the white fella in Chechnya have held their Sufi Zikr worship in the face of persecution.
I find it very interesting, on the other hand, a little spooky actually. Especially with the screaming and wild behavior in the worship, very similar to some evangelical Christians today, like the Toronto blessing movement.
I totally agree with you some, Aqua Juwel! Does that not drive the spirit away perhaps?!
1:14 - Come to Zion 4:06 - I’m on my Way to Zion 5:42 - Oh, the Beautiful Treasures 7:56 - I Have a Little Drum 8:30 - Who Will Bow and Bend Like a Willow 9:31 - Love, Oh Love, is Sweetly Flowing 13:21 - Ina Vina Violet 14:00 - I Will Bow and be Simple 15:16 - Simple Gifts 16:45 - Living Souls 17:49 - Finale
Amazing.
Jesus has returned to us in 1980 on Earth as foretold he would and we have to help restore his and his families bodies in Jerusalem through science as the resurrection of the dead has not happened yet. ..as for the events described in the Book of Revelation that has happened already..and yes I believe it was Muhammad that was the return of the Christ Spirit as a lion as Jesus was the lamb ,,,fore his followers will bring him back as well in the future for it is just and Holy, God does not do evil things...6000 years from Adam was the year 2000 AD soon we will have the empowered child culture with robotic parents to help us in our work. " at the University of Toronto, which concluded that while the names are not uncommon, the conservative odds that such names would be found together in any one tomb around are (depending on variables) from 600 to 1 to 1,000,000 to 1 in favor of its being authentic " Wikipedia article on the Talpiot Tomb The tomb in Talpiot, excavated in 1980 during salvage archaeology, originally contained ten ossuaries - bone boxes for secondary burial. Of the ten, one vanished - presumably stolen - right after it had been catalogued. This may be the tomb of Jesus' brother James (see James Ossuary), although such claim is refuted by the professor who oversaw the archaeological work. Of the other nine, six were inscribed with names. As translated in and , they read as follows: Ossuary #80/503 Y'shua bar Yosef - Aramaic for "Jesus son of Joseph". Ossuary #80/505 Maria - written in Aramaic script, but a Latin form of the Hebrew name "Miriam" ("Mary")[3] Ossuary #80/504 Yose - a diminutive of "Joseph" mentioned (in its Greek form ιωσης "Joses") as the name of one of Jesus's brothers in the New Testament (Mark 6:3) Ossuary #80/501 Yehuda bar Yeshua - possibly Aramaic for "Judah son of Jesus". Ossuary #80/500 Mariamene e Mara - according to the filmmakers this is Greek for "Mary known as the master." The similar name "Mariamne" is found in the Acts of Philip. Francois Bovon, professor of the history of religion at Harvard University has said, based on his study of that work, "I do not believe that Mariamne is the real name of Mary of Magdalene. Mariamne is, besides Maria or Mariam, a possible Greek equivalent, attested by Josephus, Origen, and the Acts of Philip, for the Semitic Myriam."[4] Matya - Hebrew for 'Matthew' - not claimed to be Matthew the Evangelist but "possibly a husband of one of the women in an unmarked ossuary". The filmmakers claim that there is evidence that Mary mother of Jesus had many relatives named Matthew. The Imitation of Christ is fine. We can clone Jesus now as a normal Human Being but you have been warned unless he is raised Jewish. If he imitates the return of the Christ Spirit the 3rd time as the 2nd seems to have been Muhammad in Revelations again we could be in trouble...Muhammad was the Christ Spirit like the lion as Jesus was the lamb. There no longer is the Holy of Holies in the Temple, it was destroyed in 70 AD. From Wikipedia: " The temptation of Christ is a biblical narrative detailed in the gospels of Matthew, Mark and Luke. After being baptized by John the Baptist, Jesus was tempted by the devil after 40 days and nights of fasting in the Judaean Desert. At the time, Satan came to Jesus and tried to tempt him. Jesus having refused each temptation, Satan then departed and Jesus returned to Galilee to begin his ministry. During this entire time of spiritual battle, Jesus was fasting. Jesus was crucified right after this happened: John 2:13-16 "13 The Passover of the Jews was near, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 14 In the temple he found people selling cattle, sheep, and doves, and the money changers seated at their tables. 15 Making a whip of cords, he drove all of them out of the temple, both the sheep and the cattle. He also poured out the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. 16 He told those who were selling the doves, “Take these things out of here! Stop making my Father’s house a marketplace!” (I guess Jesus didn't like the exchange rate that day) The root of all evil is the need for food.
They forgot to have sex. Therefore they died off.
the songs what are there names besides come to zion and simple gifts
Lovely but I wish to see real shakers dance, no singing and choreography.
Shakerism wherein they 'shake' their sins away in ecstatic dance and song. Very interesting and an enduring legacy of religion and faith in America.
I reckon the real thing was wilder than this.
It’s amazing to think that this community thrives without sex although the Method of Prayer is almost like dancing with a lot of interaction with the opposite sex.
Doomed from the outset by thoughts of celibacy and complete separation of men and women. Socialism at its finest and still doomed to failure if nothing else through commerce.
They no longer exist.
@@barryrhoads8716 that's not what socialism means. Please, I beg you, please just google the definition of socialism.
@@Xorobabel not quite, there’s still a community hanging on called Sabathday Lake
@@thepapistyourmotherwarnedy752 Yes, Sabbathday Lake hangs on, there are only 3 brothers now.
According to Erik Reese in his book “Utopia Drive”, many Shakers were women because they were widows and abused wives with nowhere to go. Orphans of cholera outbreaks were brought there too.
Very good point! Makes sense! Thank you!
My Great Great Great-grandfather(3 greats) was a Shaker at South Union Kentucky. He was there until he died sometime between 1845 and 1850. My great great-grandfather(son of the afore mentioned) was 15 yrs old when his father died and lived in the community with his father until then. My great great-grandfather left the community as a teenager. I think the son did't agree with celibacy and at the age of 15 boys were considered adults during that time. He left the Shakers after his fathers death. Teenage hormones maybe. My great great-grandfather married but eventually returned to the community sometime before the Civil War started. He left his wife and children there and joined the Union Army sometime after the Civil War broke out. The Shakers believed in the equality of the races and the equality of the sexes. They also did not believe in participating in war. President Lincoln did give the Shakers immunity from serving in the Civil War. However, my great great-grandfather did serve in the Union Army during the Civil War while my great great-grandmother and some of their children(they had 13-- 10 lived to adulthood) continued to stay with the Shaker community. After the war was over, he returned. Not sure when they left the community but they eventually did. I am not sure that they ever converted though they were allowed to live and work in the community during the war. Both my great great-grandfather & great great-grandmother died in 1915 within days of each other. They were in their 80's. They are buried somewhere in or near Logan County. At their time of death, they had their own place of domicile. A cousin did a genealogy research of our ancestors and found that our great great greatgrandfather and his son had lived with the Shakers at South Union and this explanation seems to be a part of our Ancestral Taylor history. Not sure as to where some of the other children of my great great-grandfather decided to settle. My great grandfather eventually moved to Tennessee after his wife died giving birth to my grandfather. I think my great grandfather was probably never involved in the Shaker movement. He had a very young daughter & baby son when he moved to Tennessee after the death of his first wife. He procured employment managing a small country store owned by a relative and remarried within two years. His second wife was the daughter of a Baptist clergyman(I was told this part about his second wife by my maternal grandfather. I think my maternal grandfather did not know about the Kentucky Shaker History of the Taylors'.
Can we get these lyrics??
If this is an accurate rendition of their religious services they seem very spiritual and pious until they go into fits of madness. Reading about beliefs it’s clear they aren’t Christians. They seem like spiritualists.
I thought that anyone who believes in the christ, and especially those who await his second arrival(cuz they think he died, came back, and ascended) is, by definition a christian. I believe it is called a sect, much like catholics, methodists, lutherans, and the like. Those who worship or await christ. And they thought of themselves as christians. So, are you the be all of what is christian? Or just not my christian so it's not? Cus I'm not christian, he sounds like a cool dude, like what he said, but I notice alot of christians can't even agree that they worship the same guy. So confusing. Then who would go to heaven?
Dan, point well taken here!!! I think they were very much Christians! I am a Christian, and I would say they definitely are/were!!! Also!
Sad that men today don't have the desire to live a single chaste celibate life.
Well, babies are not brought by storks, are they? It's not sad, it's natural and healthy to choose to live family life and have sex with your wife. There are still many men who choose to live single and celibacy and if it's their choice, it's alright. However, we can't expect all people to live this way, humanity would not last for long 😉
who is came from MORE TO READ 1 book?
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Interesting. They sound great!
Thank you. That was VERY CLEANSING.+++
BEAUTIFUL. :-)