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@lazydelibird

Ай бұрын

Damn, an update from a 10 YEAR OLD VIDEO. This is probably the very first time I've seen such a thing.

@KurenaiTheScarletBullgon

Ай бұрын

Well... considering that this is one of my most viewed videos, I thought it'd be fine to get the viewers' attention with something I've been cooking up recently.

@shikikenju1588

15 күн бұрын

legend

Have... *HAVE I BEEN MISLED TO BELIEVE 'THEME OF EASTERN STORY' WAS TOUHOU'S MAIN THEME ALL THIS TIME?!*

@guy_th18

5 жыл бұрын

no

@Azrielfiend

5 жыл бұрын

no

@jangel8446

4 жыл бұрын

no

@Jann75

3 жыл бұрын

yes

@abarette_

2 жыл бұрын

@バナニーナ! >also used in PCB, SA, and most ZUN albums anyway Uh... ^^"

It's called a Leitmotif, kids. I-it's a thing. In music. Especially music that's part of a story or play.

@yuithekitsuneko

3 жыл бұрын

i always love to tell people about leitmotifs; its cool to tell them then they can tell just what themes are repeated and it blows their minds

@basedmod2139

3 жыл бұрын

lol I think you give zun too much credit

@ns6q333

3 жыл бұрын

@@basedmod2139 oh no, zun deserves all the credit

@Antonwas12

3 жыл бұрын

Wait wtf it's called Leitmotif in english??

@Kuumin

2 жыл бұрын

"I-its a thing" Why you gotta frame it as common sense

How could you forget Sakuya's theme? It is pretty much everywhere in the entire main melody >_>

@Fishnberg

3 жыл бұрын

explane to me?

@hyperslayer7338

3 жыл бұрын

@@Fishnberg This constant/repetitive-like melody is used quite a bit in Sakuya's theme in Touhou EoSD. The part where the song changes to a 3/4 time signature.

@Fishnberg

Ай бұрын

@@hyperslayer7338 I see, thanks alot!

@hyperslayer7338

Ай бұрын

​@@FishnbergNo problem!

@roecatgaming

26 күн бұрын

​Bro thanked hyper slayer 3 years later​@@Fishnberg

Here's one song that uses this leitmotif that I legitimately feel like nobody except me noticed it. This motif was used in Pandemonic Planet, right after the intro. The thing is, the leitmotif isn't just a straight copy of all the other uses of it, it's actually inverted. I don't know why Zun did this, but I can't tell if I should be surprised nobody has noticed it.

@beepboopily6285

6 жыл бұрын

I really felt something weird when I heard it to but didn't expect it to be like that.

@lecorbak

4 жыл бұрын

nice catch

@Kromiball

Жыл бұрын

Bell of Avici at 9:12 uses both the normal motif and the inverted version.

@GarryDumblowski

Жыл бұрын

@@Kromiball Oh wow, I think I hear it. Thank you for pointing that out!

@lady_monarch-gp9tl

5 ай бұрын

I think it’s also in doll judgement from PCB in the intro specifically

This can also be found in "Moskau" by Dschinghis Khan.

@cirnobyl9158

5 жыл бұрын

Came here looking for this comment.

@flying0possum

Ай бұрын

*The History of Touhou* Part 1: 1162 AD

ZUN actually snuck this really sneakily into Pandemonic Planet. You know the part just after the intro? It's an inversion of this melody, it's "upside down"!

00:00 Eastern Demon-Sealing Record ~ Pure Land Mandala 00:30 A Dream Transcending Space-Time 00:49 Maniacal Princess 02:05 Bad Apple!! (Touhou 4: Lotus Land Story) 02:25 Cute Devil ~ Innocence 03:01 Those Who Live in Illusions 03:23 Wondrous Romance ~ Mystic Square 03:32 Legendary Illusion ~ Infinite Being 03:49 Shinto Shrine 04:06 Mystic Dream (Touhou 5: Mystic Square) 04:33 Illusionary girl from Canaveral 04:41 Magical Girl's Crusade 04:51 Fantasy Science ~ Doll's Phantom 05:09 Girl's Divinity ~ Pandora's Box 05:27 Warrior Maiden ~ Heart of Valkyrie 06:05 Forest of Dolls 07:15 Magical Girl's Crusade (Ghostly Field Club version) 08:09 Boys and Girls of the Age of Science 08:26 Fantasy Machine ~ Phantom Factory 08:53 Heartfelt Fancy 09:11 Bell of Avici ~ Infinite Nightmare 09:34 Humans and Youkai Coming and Going at the Canal 09:55 Elfin Mint's Theme 10:02 Life-Guiding Song ~ Prospect Mirai 10:09 Assholevania 10:36 Sorrowful Requiem (Elemental Master ending theme)

@imadsting2467

5 ай бұрын

legend

@maxtes252

5 ай бұрын

Bad Apple is from Touhou 4

@vorondanil54

Ай бұрын

ASS!

_ZUN cannot help but reuse his favorite medleys ever since he made them. He cannot help but love it._ *_And we all love it._*

Double Dealing Character has at least four themes with the bassline of _Shoutoku Legend ~ True Administrator_ playing in the background.

@KurenaiTheScarletBullgon

10 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I've noticed that too.

@casperthefriendlypotato9046

6 жыл бұрын

Nobody talks about how Reincarnation is in Mist Lake...

@vinzer72frie

5 жыл бұрын

what what which ones? i havent notice

@casperthefriendlypotato9046

5 жыл бұрын

@ShadowLoli R00mia kzread.info/dash/bejne/lKOY29Vvaam6dc4.html It's around here. Doesn't it sound similar to Reincarnation in the build up to the chorus?

@GrahamChapman

2 жыл бұрын

Incidentally, Prince Shoutoku spearheaded the revival of worship of both Ookuninushi/Daikoku, known for his medicinal knowledge, and Sukuna Hikona, Shinmyoumaru's ancestor, known for having come from Tokoyo no Kuni and even having returned from death, and promoting them as gods of Kotobuki no Kuni, the Land of Long Life.

Not all of these melodies sound quite the same, and as stated before, Theme of Eastern Story is still used more. That being said, this was still a nice catch. Good ear~

@benholley4621

7 жыл бұрын

well, they share the same tonal sequence, though. melodies are nothing but a sequence of notes. And those do share said melody. They do have different purposes in different songs, though, gotta give you that.

Sakuya and Alice in the Windows game love to use this melody. It makes sense why Alice uses this melody in both her Stage Theme and Boss Theme. We're led to believe that this is the same Alice from the PC-98 Era. As she recognizes Reimu, which shouldn't be possible for people starting with the Windows Era. So there's a lore reason as to why Alice has this melody in her themes during the Windows Era, which is awesome. Gotta respect ZUN for going all out, Another Theme that uses this melody is "Shoutoku Legend ~ True Administrator". Miko's Boss Theme.

i keep using this leitmotif in my works too, dunno why but it always goes back to this

Tbh, that leitmotif is how I know a ZUN track is gonna go hard. It's an amazing build up.

@wingedflyingforce5139

25 күн бұрын

But *WHOSE* leitmotif is it? I wish to know, else how can you call it one when no one knows who it is for?

@wingedflyingforce5139

14 күн бұрын

@@DianeSteele a leitmotif is usually for a specific person, place, or thing. LoL. Just because it's a repeating pattern doesn't make it a leitmotif. Unless they can assign it to a place or person from touhou, it's nothing more than a repeating chord

...Huh, I can't believe I didn't notice that ever. That melody does show up everywhere.

ANGRY VIDEO GAME NERD ADVENTURES?

This melody even shows up in Battle Against a True Hero!

what about PCB Stage 3?

i forgot how obsessed ZUN with this tune

recently found this leitmotif in your best nightmare from undertale.

What about Doll Maker of Bucuresti and Doll Judgement?

This makes me wonder if it Shoutoku Legend was inspired by this Leitmotif, just on a minor key.

@Jann75

2 жыл бұрын

Makes me wonder if it inspired Gengetsu's theme in general. It just seems like one of those themes.

I still think Theme of Eastern Story is used more. (I think it's referenced over 20 times) You should add song names on the screen as annotations :D

@KurenaiTheScarletBullgon

10 жыл бұрын

I would like to add annotations, but I'm really lazy. ^^;

@roniari9659

5 жыл бұрын

Sadly annotions are gone now

@ns6q333

3 жыл бұрын

@@roniari9659 RIP annotations

@ganime9497

Жыл бұрын

We have chapters now

Ik this was like 7 years ago but if you listen or look at the midi to desire drive, it disguised itself in the beginning part it's just spiced up a bit

This is a video of all the times that zun has used a variation of an alberti bass. It's a thing in classical music. Listen to Mozart sonata 16 k545 in C or the ending to Super Mario Bros 2 (USA).

@jamm6_514

4 ай бұрын

its a descending alberti bass, a broken arpeggio, that so far from research i wasn't able to find any names or anything in regards to it; of course it isn't original from zun, it has been used quite often but both examples you've given don't fall under that category, mozart's had a basic rendition, SMB2 (USA) had an ascending-descending variation. i still wonder if this specific form has any sort of nomenclature or the kind given how often it appears

@Kromiball

2 ай бұрын

Chinese songs have had it for a long time, iirc Gong Xi Gong Xi is mostly just this melody.

@onezerozeroonethree2369

14 күн бұрын

@@jamm6_514yeah, I guess you could just call it a broken chord figure. It's not a melody though-it's an accompaniment pattern

I've always recognized multiple similarities between his songs but I didn't think about this. Thanks for making this video it's very interesting!

well, for the first part i totally agree, but in the sencond meh, :/ i'll try to explain: when u compose u have tocreate notes pattern from 0, but u have to be inspired to do such a thing, however there some basic pattern of notes or tricks if u want to nome them which allows to compose a perfect piece of music without errors, this kind of notes-scheme is taken form Bach and his toccata and fuge and it consist in an alternance of 2 times: 1 note is the same and the 2 changed according to the scale... however lots of ZUN's OST have this alternance descentent for both notes

I hear this in Undertale as well...

There's a part of BL1ND JUST1C3: 1NV3ST1G4T1ON (One of Terezi's themes from Homestuck) around the 45-second mark that sounds very similar to this leitmotif.

You forgott stratovarious - black diamond

@Shaker626

5 жыл бұрын

Nothing like clav-, I mean ZUNpets.

@jamesheiman1602

5 жыл бұрын

More like Bach Toccata and Fugue in D minor

Damn, I have never found any music more beautiful than THIS!!

@mauricestardddude8317

2 жыл бұрын

Have you fallen to the Touhou hole yet?

@alansartrignot

2 жыл бұрын

@@mauricestardddude8317 I haven’t played it but yea I love touhou but also I forgot about this song until you commented haha

@Libops

8 ай бұрын

​@@alansartrignotI bet you forgot again.

I feel proud noticing leitmotifs lmao (listened to too many Touhou originals, arrangements, remixes that I could literally wake up from comma if someone started playing some of my favourite ones xD)

@wingedflyingforce5139

25 күн бұрын

Alright, what is the name, or whose leitmotif is this for/who does it represent & what is the name of it? In order for it to be called a leitmotif it must have this, else it's just a popular zun melody

i always thought that the short little meledy that plays at times in chen's theme sounded a little like flandres theme in a way (around the 1 minute mark). maybe thats on purpose because remilia and flandre are basically the princesses, arent they?

The yellow soul at the end of undertale also uses this leitmotif xD

I think it's on purpose- A sort of proto-Theme of Eastern Story.

I knew I heard this a LOT. But I mean, this is BAD Apple !! main bassline, so obviously I heard it a lot

I could hear that melody in Some themes I didn't knew it was in like Junkos theme

not just ZUN's, I don't remember the name of it, but it's quite prevalent in music ever since baroque times

Im happy im not the only one notice this. Since i started playing touhou. all music in every game has a special same melody.

you can find this melody in Len'en 2 as well! Stage 4 boss, Hibaru Kokutenshi's theme!

@bappityyyy

Ай бұрын

Also Yabusame's theme's in general, I believe. Especially the intro of their theme in Len'en 1

wat about lunar clock~luna dial?

@kooma4500

4 жыл бұрын

It's not a repeated thing.

Sometimes, like the third song, I don't really see it. I think sometimes you might be seeing a pattern in another pattern. But well it's been 10 years, still a good observation back then c:

In Moskau - dschinghis khan there is a rhythm like this in the Intro, it's called alberti bass, it's a chord technique that comes from classical music.

and the doll maker of bucuresti‼️

10:11 was not expecting Avgn!

What about Doll Maker of Bucuresti? The intro for that theme is literally just that melody in different keys.

@KurenaiTheScarletBullgon

Ай бұрын

If you guys mention PCB Stage 3 one more time, I swear to God...

The am g f e chord progression too cmiiw

I Know This Was Posted In 2013 But WBAWC Stage 1 Has The Leitmotif... Again...

This little motif is very similar to 'Devil Speak' from Megami Tensei Ii, the connection between these two series' music is pretty interesting

so basically everyone is gengetsu

いいものを見つけましたよ、ほんと

You can find this melody in Eternal Shrine Maiden, said to be the ZUN's first.

Can someone list down the tracks used in this video?

We've discovered the secret to ZUN's genius.

What the heck, its even in the AVGN game!?!

And here I thought It was the same one as Alice stage's theme In th07 [Doll maker of Bucuresti]

@jamm6_514

4 ай бұрын

it is, he forgot to add

Dosent Lunar Clock-Luna Dial have the same leitmotif too? That one is so well known im suprised it was left out

ginger Marisa

it's funny how from all the soudtracks with the same melody there's not the most obvious ones being the Alice's theme from both her stage and boss fight

OMG. How couldn't I be able to spot SA stage 4 !!

He did it again with the new games stage 2 boss

God, I love Touhou.

damn this is nice, i want to know more

how the hell did i not notice this

what the hell i thought that leitmotif was exclusive to bdd apple and doll maker of bucuresti, lmao i made a song based on that leitmotif. i really need to make a new version of it

It would be nice to label the music but pretty neat!

Really interesting

Does this leitmotif have a name? I've also heard it in quite a few power metal songs, such as "The Martyr" and "Tommyknockers" by Blind Guardian.

@SlyHikari03

28 күн бұрын

Descending Alberti Bass

Wouldn't Kanako's theme count?

I was expecting Lunar Clock to be in this video you forgot it lel

It was in Stage 3 Of PCB's BGM as well, you can here it at the start

@KurenaiTheScarletBullgon

4 ай бұрын

You're like the 5th person in here(I think, I've genuinely lost count) who pointed that out, and at this point, I'm genuinely getting sick of it, lmao.

@ghost7263

4 ай бұрын

@@KurenaiTheScarletBullgon ah ok, is that a bad thing? 😭

@KurenaiTheScarletBullgon

4 ай бұрын

Not really. I just personally wish people didn't repeat the same thing over and over, but I can't judge them for not reading the comments.

@ghost7263

4 ай бұрын

@@KurenaiTheScarletBullgon oh ok, I didn't know other people had commented that, sorry I guess

@KurenaiTheScarletBullgon

4 ай бұрын

No worries, you're fine.

Man, who would have thought ZUN was the guy behind Black Diamond by Stratovarius?

Reminds me of the song "MOSKAU " by the german band Dschingis Khan

whats the elemental master song called in the end?

Tocata in d minor bach?

I thought it was just me, glad im not crazy!

zun's favorite melody in a nutshell i guess

wait until you guys hear Moskau by Dschinghis Khan

16-step tr sequencer.

This also appears at around 0:11 and multiple times afterwards in the first Dancouga ED, Burning Love kzread.info/dash/bejne/hYqMxtFypdSbnLw.html

Assholevania! That got me chuckling x) (to readers ; it's the name of the AVGN song)

Interesting. Does Bad Apple (the PV, maybe the original as well though) use this? I heard what I thought I recognized from Bad Apple in Theme of Eastern Story and have spent forever trying to find it.

@nostalplant

2 жыл бұрын

it's at 2:10 lmao

@AlexanderRM1000

2 жыл бұрын

@@nostalplant Thanks!

Is there a tracklist?

Touhou 3 theme its literally Lunar Clock

Nemuno's theme in HSiFS deserves the place

@KurenaiTheScarletBullgon

6 жыл бұрын

'Kay? Where's the leitmotif on her theme? Because I don't hear it.

I wonder if ZUN was influenced by J.S. Bach?

Why wondrous romance's opening bass melody is cool

You forgot The Doll Maker of Bucuresti too !

Hiroari shoots a strange bird Kinda, but i think Toes repeated the most

hey could you list all the ost names? please

BAATH sounds like this. Toby Fox what the fuck

Isn't this used in The Doll Maker of Bucuresti also?

@KurenaiTheScarletBullgon

10 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I forgot to add that one, I apologize. Also, other songs that I forgot to add in this video include _Hiroari Shoots a Strange Bird ~ Till When?_, _Onigashima in the Fairyland ~ Missing Power_, _Legend of Aokigahara_ and _Futatsuiwa from Gensokyo_.

8:53 MEOW~

Eh? Well, what song is it anyway~? Oh well. I can still hear the similarities...I think. =/

whats the first one called?

What about the build-up that Koishi, Wakasagihime, Mayumi, and Momoyo all share?

@KurenaiTheScarletBullgon

11 ай бұрын

They have a build-up, but none of them sound similar. Also, I made this video before WBaWC and UM existed.

you forgot bridge people no longer cross from SA

All artist have some constant that shows up in most of their music. But I like when artist like Zun use it sparingly but do it enough that when heard by close listeners, it becomes the thing that is known for defining their sound. When many of us hear Touhou music, its safe to imagine that there is some dance hall with the many characters across each game dancing to some oh the upbeat tracks while Zun and some other backup musicians (maybe, Rinnousuke and Myorin or the Prism River Sisters) rock out on stage. -Edit- Mmmm or perhaps Raiko or even Benben. Yeah let’s just reduce male characters as bartenders serving sake that causes oni fights to break out. It’ll give Aya something to report the next day.

What version of Maniacal Princess is that? I’ve been trying to find it, but none of them sound like the one in this video

@KurenaiTheScarletBullgon

Ай бұрын

It's the original, from Touhou 3: Phantasmagoria of Dim.Dream.

@thecallumvibes

Ай бұрын

@@KurenaiTheScarletBullgon Thank you :)

This sounds a lot like poison mind