Zoom's 3800 Rebuild

Автокөліктер мен көлік құралдары

Steve and Ashley continue the build up of Zoom's Grand Prix. Today they take you through assembling the bottom end of his new stroker engine. Engine is headed into the car shortly, stay tuned!
Ready to start modding your 3800? Follow the link:
zzperformance.com/collections/3800
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  • @RalphMayman
    @RalphMayman4 жыл бұрын

    Holy crap... Thank you for pointing out the magnet (for the camshaft sensor), I'm putting together a 3800 with a double row timing chain & I forgot to take that off the original (single cam gear). Thanks for saving me a mountain of grief (my motor is still on the stand at the mo...).

  • @notoriousls5513
    @notoriousls55135 жыл бұрын

    Keep the 3800 content coming!!

  • @ChrisC-bc8od
    @ChrisC-bc8od5 жыл бұрын

    great build guys! cant wait to see it in action!!!!

  • @ericlewis5035
    @ericlewis50355 жыл бұрын

    Nice video. I love the tutorial/how to videos. I love learning more about the 3800 motors.

  • @jamest.5001
    @jamest.50013 жыл бұрын

    She is beautiful, and 3.8L to boot! Maybe two cylinders shy of being a LS, but that's OK! A pair of turbines and about 2bar! And life is good!

  • @RickyGuterson
    @RickyGuterson3 жыл бұрын

    3800 cheers for ZZP 😀

  • @melindaortiz9741
    @melindaortiz97412 жыл бұрын

    Best Gm engine out there

  • @Christdeliverme
    @Christdeliverme4 жыл бұрын

    Hello friend. A little nerve wracking getting a big cam in one of these 3800's eh? Least I always thought so. Excited to see my OG car, my first car 98 GTP back when I was hanging with Scott Cook and Zoomer on forums, have new life breathed into it again.

  • @komahoby
    @komahoby5 жыл бұрын

    LOVE IT!

  • @snoopy5736
    @snoopy57365 жыл бұрын

    I'm going to bring my Riviera for a tune in a few months once I'm done putting it together

  • @jimsmirh2406
    @jimsmirh24062 жыл бұрын

    He has a nice little helper there.

  • @boosted0079
    @boosted00793 жыл бұрын

    Would've been nice to see the rest of this build

  • @ghosty1119
    @ghosty11195 жыл бұрын

    YES DUDES!!!

  • @vinnylc
    @vinnylc2 жыл бұрын

    It's the first time I've ever seen someone put the cylinder heads on before the camshaft. Usually I'll put in the can before the Pistons and rods. It goes in after the crank. I'm sure these guys know what they're doing but I've never seen it done like that before

  • @TeamMarineService
    @TeamMarineServiceАй бұрын

    I was a big 3800 guy when I was a kid…but then I grew up. Are people really still modding these engines bragging about 400 whp? Just get a junkyard LS and throw it in some dirtball Camaro, turbo it, make 800 wheel and grow up. Props to ZZP for staying true to themselves and not taking the easy way out.

  • @famousmoon

    @famousmoon

    Ай бұрын

    Plenty of ppl making over 500 hp with theses engines buddy and there a few ppl also rwd swapping theses cars and a few also throwing LS engines in them as well

  • @242bleek

    @242bleek

    13 күн бұрын

    Not everything needs a turbo LS or 800 whp. Some people just like 3800's

  • @daveponder2754
    @daveponder27543 жыл бұрын

    The Buick v6 is at top dead center compression stroke when both the gear dots are at 12 o-clock. The same goes for all brands of American made iron block v8s. L6s, and v6s

  • @danielwilson6665

    @danielwilson6665

    2 жыл бұрын

    The desired results are even better when the dot on the cam gear is at 6 o’clock and the crank gear dot is at 12 o’clock. No point in wasting time to determine if those times are pm or am. A quick look outside will usually help with that little detail 🥳.

  • @KooKs214
    @KooKs2145 жыл бұрын

    When will yall be in stock for your 3800s? Went to the site and everything's sold out

  • @sc928porsche8
    @sc928porsche84 жыл бұрын

    Get rid of the use of teflon tape. Use locktite thread sealer and in some cases use locktite med strength.

  • @jerrychaney7100
    @jerrychaney71004 жыл бұрын

    Women definitely have a finer touch, that was the best cam install I've seen. These cam bearings didnt feel a thing.

  • @tokahontas9990

    @tokahontas9990

    3 жыл бұрын

    Maybe you should be more careful you big doofus

  • @TheKing-nu4fk

    @TheKing-nu4fk

    7 ай бұрын

    Lol while she asks if the washers are air tight? 😅 some guys just can't work around women

  • @avathecockatoo494
    @avathecockatoo4945 жыл бұрын

    I wonder if that’s the same Ashley who helped me yesterday

  • @w41duvernay
    @w41duvernay4 жыл бұрын

    Love these guys. They help me eliminate a nasty power delay on my 14 Cadillac CTS 2.0L when going off on ramp onto Interstate. Car is totally balls out now, just had to remove the noise intake silencer from air intake, and get K&N filter from ZZ. I even put proudly the ZZ sticker under hood, and funny thing is car is NO louder than OEM.

  • @johnscott1981

    @johnscott1981

    4 жыл бұрын

    A cold air intake doesn't make your car louder...

  • @hayden6056

    @hayden6056

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@johnscott1981 depending on the intake , yes it does lol.

  • @johnscott1981

    @johnscott1981

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@hayden6056 a "cold" air intake doesn't do anything for ya unless it actually over to a spot where it can get cold air. And even then it doesn't make exhaust louder...

  • @hayden6056

    @hayden6056

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@johnscott1981 how is it a cold air intake if it's not breathing cold air? Really defeats the purpose doesn't it? You can still make more power though even if hot if the intake pipe size is a restriction. Lol no it doesn't change the exhaust note but who mentioned exhaust?.... Everything makes noise from tyres to valves not just exhaust. Intake noise makes a big difference go put a hard pipe and pod on an m90 car after removing the paper filter and box and tell me it makes no difference to the noise....

  • @johnscott1981

    @johnscott1981

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@hayden6056 barely noticeable. Been there, done that.

  • @3800TURBO
    @3800TURBO4 жыл бұрын

    I found when using studs in these engines, the studs grow when warm and you loose tension on them. I could never get the gaskets to hold big boost until I retorqued them when the engine was at operating temp. Not sure if you guys found the same? Talking 1000hp/turbo stuff.

  • @600zxr

    @600zxr

    3 жыл бұрын

    You have a 1000hp 3800?????

  • @shovington67

    @shovington67

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@600zxr, apparently if you use top notch vavle train components, titanium springs, roller rockers, a high lift cam, bigger injectors, larger fuel pump, custom throttle body, cold air intake, custom ECM, (I'm sure your getting it), then the bottom end of these 3800 will take the power (for a while, your mileage may very). You may want to poke around your local strip to see what the local mad scientist's are doing with their dependable 3800's.

  • @600zxr

    @600zxr

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@shovington67 while there are a lot of sixes making that kind of power, I just don't see it with the 3800......it's even harder to believe the trans can take it. It is a very reliable engine at stock levels but it's not a good base for a high powered reliable engine and efficiency is not going to happen. I only bought my 3800 GP to have a good car to build an extensive stereo system.

  • @RickyGuterson

    @RickyGuterson

    3 жыл бұрын

    This is pure truth!

  • @RickyGuterson

    @RickyGuterson

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@600zxr The 3800 can and will make this power reliably, if done properly.

  • @johndee68
    @johndee682 жыл бұрын

    I know this is a old post. But I am wondering if you or any viewers can give me some advice on the crank gear position. There is about three positions it can fit on the crank and I presume it is each a 2 deg change to the crank Cam timing as a result ?. If there is a possibility that when reassembly was undertaken, that the gear may have been put on the wrong location, what could be the result with the engine when running? As I am wondering if a lack of power, economy from what should be around 7-8L/100km is now running more around the 12-14L/100km highway. Would there be any other noticeable issues? Without removing the front assembly to view the timing gears is there a way to check the cam and crank timing somehow?

  • @marcuscook5145
    @marcuscook51453 жыл бұрын

    There's so many small cars I want to swap one of these into.

  • @cornypeters9447
    @cornypeters94475 жыл бұрын

    You should do a LSJ 4 banger build would be interesting as I do have a supercharged cobalt myself

  • @bradleyhorn2316
    @bradleyhorn23164 жыл бұрын

    Arp sends moly lube for the studs, shouldn’t use oil it’s not the same as the moly lube viscosity. Also when doing head gaskets good practice to not touch the head gasket with fingers use gloves.

  • @nellyfarnsworth7381
    @nellyfarnsworth73814 жыл бұрын

    12:28 giving a reach around?

  • @PainzEditz
    @PainzEditz3 жыл бұрын

    I have a '99 firebird V6 & my dad & I replaced the oil pump but I still don't have oil pressure (oil sensor is new & I don't have oil leaks)... Now I have lifter noise.

  • @danielwilson6665

    @danielwilson6665

    2 жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately that’s the situation with these engines if they aren’t maintained with reasonable oil changes or when they are high mileage survivors. The leaks, if any externally aren’t the problem. When internal bearing clearances are worn excessively, a new oil pump won’t help much if at all. Your noisy hydraulic lifters that rely on reasonable oil pressure for proper operation are telling you the bad news. An engine rebuild using quality components will restore the oil pressure along with some performance as well.

  • @moodydude565

    @moodydude565

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@danielwilson6665 well damn. I'm gonna get an oil change right the fuc now 0_o

  • @LETSGOBRANDON13
    @LETSGOBRANDON133 жыл бұрын

    Thats one good looking girl 🤤

  • @Chris.8.8.

    @Chris.8.8.

    3 жыл бұрын

    Gorgeous and is handy with a wrench, perfect woman right there

  • @Moris40th
    @Moris40th5 жыл бұрын

    Still running 4t65?

  • @Rudywtf
    @Rudywtf4 жыл бұрын

    is any of this video in focus?

  • @blownaway4371
    @blownaway4371 Жыл бұрын

    What was the thickness before and after you took the head gasket apart?

  • @rhneg
    @rhneg Жыл бұрын

    I just got a 1990 buick reatta can I install the 1.9 rocker arms on it or only series 2 engine?

  • @joeyfoureyes98
    @joeyfoureyes984 жыл бұрын

    Fuck I just realized I only loctited my head studs. I hope it doesn't start leaking.

  • @nestorlugo.
    @nestorlugo.9 ай бұрын

    Nice 🎂

  • @AlienPizza38
    @AlienPizza385 жыл бұрын

    👍👍

  • @SpicyBloodBean
    @SpicyBloodBean5 жыл бұрын

    are you eliminating the balance shaft?

  • @johnbaker899

    @johnbaker899

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wondered that also , like where was it

  • @HighDriver
    @HighDriver3 ай бұрын

    They had to rebuild mine. My 02 Grand Prix threw a bearing and then a piston rod in cylinder 5

  • @josh6464
    @josh64645 жыл бұрын

    I need to build my engine:(

  • @birdfromhell7540
    @birdfromhell75402 жыл бұрын

    Yo what's V Sauce Michael doing over at ZZPerformance??

  • @TheKing-nu4fk
    @TheKing-nu4fk7 ай бұрын

    👩 does this make the washer air tight? Yea

  • @briccgang2900
    @briccgang29003 жыл бұрын

    Whats the part number for that cam

  • @jamessaxton4285
    @jamessaxton42852 жыл бұрын

    I got a question i did head gaskets on my buddy's 2002 firebird stock 3800 series that he got handed down from his dad and when i torque the rockers down to spec on tdc it opens the valves when they are supposed to be closed and ideas?

  • @ZZPerformanceChannel

    @ZZPerformanceChannel

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hey James, message our team at customerservice@zzperformance.com and they can give you some tips.

  • @TheFaraonM
    @TheFaraonM4 жыл бұрын

    Where to find girl mechanic

  • @ced-one374

    @ced-one374

    Ай бұрын

    UTI you’ll find em

  • @LowEnd31st

    @LowEnd31st

    27 күн бұрын

    @@ced-one374urinary tract infection?

  • @KNIGHTWING_II
    @KNIGHTWING_II4 ай бұрын

    👍

  • @addisonmccarty2116
    @addisonmccarty21162 жыл бұрын

    How much for a 3800 motor rebuild? From you guys

  • @slowgoat6089
    @slowgoat60894 жыл бұрын

    I have the same car thats all stock, could you tell me why my car just cranks forever and wont turn on anymore? I already put in a new fuel pump, and starter 🤦🏾‍♂️🙏🏾

  • @joseluisruiz3789

    @joseluisruiz3789

    4 жыл бұрын

    Perhaps the Fuel pump relay? Mine is doing the same thing now but in my case it wasn't just the fuel pump and fuel filter, there is so much going on with this car i have. 😰

  • @boosted0079
    @boosted00794 жыл бұрын

    So what exactly makes this a stroker?

  • @Voodoo_Actual

    @Voodoo_Actual

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’m wondering if this is their kit that swaps the crankshaft, essentially making it…. I think a 4.3L?

  • @angelsalazar764
    @angelsalazar7643 жыл бұрын

    I have a 3.8 v6 3800 series 3 L26 not supercharged and I want to put a supercharger on it. What would I have e to do.

  • @moodydude565

    @moodydude565

    2 жыл бұрын

    You can easily find the supercharger in a junkyard. GM superchargers didn't have stock intercoolers tho. Some people suggest a cam upgrade

  • @abelpedraza6061
    @abelpedraza60613 жыл бұрын

    I wanna convert my gp into a drag car do you think its possible

  • @danielwilson6665

    @danielwilson6665

    2 жыл бұрын

    Without knowing anything about your GP, I say of course. You should ask any of the ZZP people that currently have dedicated drag cars. I’m talking about quarter mile record setting W-bodies at ZZP 🏁🏆.

  • @jamest.5001
    @jamest.50013 жыл бұрын

    What rwd transmission fits these?

  • @kiretheyoutuber6535

    @kiretheyoutuber6535

    3 жыл бұрын

    Pretty sure the old reliable 4L60E transmission fits these and whatever other transmissions that have the same bolt pattern as that.

  • @Live2die777
    @Live2die7773 жыл бұрын

    Can never use enough lube! Lol 😆

  • @boosted0079
    @boosted00794 жыл бұрын

    I see that they don't reply to any of the comments.

  • @jonathanrodriguez6161
    @jonathanrodriguez61615 жыл бұрын

    This there a manual trans for the 3800?

  • @snoopy5736

    @snoopy5736

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yea but I think its rwd. Like for the Camaro 3800

  • @scottwolforth8948

    @scottwolforth8948

    5 жыл бұрын

    a bunch of FWD options that will handle power too.

  • @ZZPerformanceChannel

    @ZZPerformanceChannel

    5 жыл бұрын

    We are staying with the 4t65 for this build, but there are an increasing number of F23 manual trans swapped cars out there. It's the transmission out of the Cavalier/HHR/base model Cobalt.

  • @BigWheel.

    @BigWheel.

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ZZPerformanceChannel can the F23 fit inside and work in a 10th gen (00-05) bonneville?

  • @hansanderson6607

    @hansanderson6607

    2 жыл бұрын

    In a Camaro or Firebird.

  • @vincentharper6324
    @vincentharper63244 жыл бұрын

    What parts make it a stroker? Please tell me.

  • @charleslowe522

    @charleslowe522

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think this project was abandoned. I'm not aware of any rods or crankshaft aftermarket parts that exist for a stroker build. There is a guy, Richard Holdener that is going to do a big bang test on a 3800 series 2 block. Can't wait to see how that tests comes out, because I'm seriously thinking of swapping a 3800 into my Grand National.

  • @vincentharper6324

    @vincentharper6324

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@charleslowe522 Nice

  • @GTPonYOU1

    @GTPonYOU1

    3 жыл бұрын

    It has a custom rotating assembly with increased stroke.

  • @charleslowe522

    @charleslowe522

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@GTPonYOU1 Who makes the stroker crank.

  • @hayden6056

    @hayden6056

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@charleslowe522 c.o.m.e racing do some stroker sets. Have had some cranks break in supercharged form at the nose. I think it's $4500 aud with h beam rods , forged pistons etc.

  • @cjdougan3862
    @cjdougan38624 жыл бұрын

    Will my Pontiac Grand Prix with 237,000 miles last up to 300,000 or more? It has a 3800 series 2 engine

  • @nellyfarnsworth7381

    @nellyfarnsworth7381

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes Its a BUICK, not a ford.

  • @missingremote4388

    @missingremote4388

    4 жыл бұрын

    If you made it to 240.000 miles. It is a good one! And will make it to 300.000 miles. Mine made it to 270.000 before it had a "internal noise", or rod knock. Still drove fine but idled sounding like a Harley-davidson. Untill 184.000. Getting a engine replacement ( used not rebuilt ) w/ ZZP full powerlog exhaust and, heavy-duty ZZPERFORMANCE bottom engine mount & Transmission is being totally replaced too w/Remanufactured 🚗 2008 laCrosse is the car!

  • @PhillyDee215
    @PhillyDee2154 жыл бұрын

    Great video, ZZP did my build. Check out my ZZP dyno video on my KZread channel. ZZP is the best for 3800s!!!

  • @tonystewart7179
    @tonystewart71793 жыл бұрын

    Dumb question from a dummy! L26 heads are aluminum or cast iron???

  • @ZZPerformanceChannel

    @ZZPerformanceChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    The L26 heads are made of cast iron.

  • @franciscomolina5362
    @franciscomolina53625 жыл бұрын

    Lmao 6:26 (I'll grab deez nuts)

  • @jaymoney119966
    @jaymoney1199664 жыл бұрын

    He put that pipe tape on the wrong way it’s going to unravel when he puts that in

  • @philipgoldman4188

    @philipgoldman4188

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sorry dude. If you think he put that tape on wrong, then you are doing it wrong.

  • @bosshoggett
    @bosshoggett3 жыл бұрын

    Poor girl ask you a question and you completely ignore her even forcing her behind you while you crap on then turn and finish... Pretty poor camera etiquette.

  • @turlubambabou
    @turlubambabou3 жыл бұрын

    This girl is hot as hell!!

  • @burgundy4583
    @burgundy45838 ай бұрын

    Why is there a female

  • @kxngearner698
    @kxngearner6985 жыл бұрын

    toyota is GARBAGE

  • @martinj9647
    @martinj96474 жыл бұрын

    This girl clearly has no clue and absolutely no interest in what you're saying.

  • @socknetea

    @socknetea

    3 жыл бұрын

    thats because he's condescending and rude. She could build a better engine then this dud and I mean dud not dude. You can tell she wants to learn and instead he does it like shes never touched a wrench before its annoying and the content is shallow because of it

  • @danielwilson6665

    @danielwilson6665

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@socknetea , That’s very well said and exactly what I was thinking too. This guy needs to lighten up with the superior attitude and stop the constant low key brow beating. Besides Ashley’s good mechanical abilities, she obviously has all of the desirable physical features that anyone who appreciates female beauty will agree on. I don’t think that the producers would be so narrow minded to think that having Ashley on the segment just for pleasing eye candy wouldn’t eventually become a uncomfortable situation. Who knows 🤔.

  • @azuredragoon4880

    @azuredragoon4880

    Жыл бұрын

    Dude needs to tone it a notch

  • @nellyfarnsworth7381
    @nellyfarnsworth73814 жыл бұрын

    8:24 Why are YOU USING THE WRONG PROCEDURE TO INSTALL THE CAMSHAFT???? YOU are putting yourself out here as a expert, teaching a young little Virgin. Correct procedure is to stand the block yp vertical, yhen install camshaft. Then put engine on engine stand. 12:50 little virgin: you are such a great teacher. NOT

  • @geoffreygetzin3972

    @geoffreygetzin3972

    4 жыл бұрын

    I have NEVER seen a cam installed with the engine vertical. By anyone anywhere ever. Its not even a realistic thought in the real world while doing cam swaps. I hope your either joking or at least will never teach anyone to do this.

  • @danielwilson6665

    @danielwilson6665

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@geoffreygetzin3972 , The Nelly technique of cam installation is news to me also. After over 50 years and many speed shops, I’ve never seen it done by Pros or the novice builders. 🤔.

  • @tdb19872
    @tdb19872 Жыл бұрын

    Awe, this is that annoying woman that answers the customer service emails and doesn't know anything other than how to repeat canned lines taught to her. At least she could be cute if she tried.