Thank you! This is so helpful

@soundjustlikeapro

Жыл бұрын

Great! Thanks for reaching out!

Regarding power: I’ve been using 2 Krisdonia 50000mAh powerbanks. (About €190 at Amazon) for my F8 (not n or pro). I did a full test recording 8chnl + phantompower on 8 micinputs (soundfield ambisonic + schoeps mc5 MS + 2 lavaliers) on 2SD vards simultaniously on 1 powerbank. Ran for over 52hrs continiously on 1 powerbank. (Had special barrel to hiroshi powercable made) So with 2 of these powerbanks you can easily run 10 days of shooting without recharging (and takes about 6 hours for full recharge).

This is me on every level. thanks for the video

@soundjustlikeapro

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks you for reaching out. Happy to help!

excellent video and informative

@soundjustlikeapro

2 жыл бұрын

Wow! Thanks for reaching out! I have several more about the F8n Pro coming in the near future.

@NikCan66

2 жыл бұрын

@@soundjustlikeapro I can't wait as this item suits my requirements

Hi William, thanx for your Video. Wich external batterie do you use?

@soundjustlikeapro

6 ай бұрын

Thanks for reaching out. I have two of the ones from this video. They’ve been great for almost two years and I use them at least 4 days a week. kzread.info/dash/bejne/eY6ZtsVxYqXeXbA.htmlsi=T0iA0EPo-eMfK74z

Great video! What’s the name of the hirose external DC battery and cable needed?

@soundjustlikeapro

7 ай бұрын

Thank you! Thanks for reaching out! I didn't have a link in the description. Here it is! I'll add it to the video too! amzn.to/46LrK0J

What do the pots control if set to trim when recording to 32-bit? I always record in 32-bit on my F8n Pro and and usually just do a PolyWAV with no mix, but the pots (when set to trim) still seem to adjust the gain - even though i thought the gain is fixed when recording to 32-bit?

Hey, What do you think about the lack of dual channel recording feature? What options are there to have a safety track? the 32 bit float is enough to compensate this function?

@soundjustlikeapro

Жыл бұрын

Hey. Thanks for reaching out! I have never needed a safety channel. There are limiters for every channel that you can set individually. Beyond that, the 32 bit float does a great job. You would just track whatever you want, pull it into an audio DAW and normalize it to bring everything to where it needs to be.

Great video! If I want to record just 2-4 people with acoustic instruments using either one (ommni pattern) or max 3 mics, is the 32 bit float a bug or a feature? Would I be better off buying a conventional 8 tracker?

@soundjustlikeapro

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Thanks for reaching out. 32 Bit Float is never a “bug.” You don’t have to use it. I still record in 24 Bit quite a lot when clients just want the files at the end of the day and don’t want to mess with the storage on the bigger 32 Bit Float files. If you know you’re just going to do 3 mics, maybe look at the F6. I’m pretty sure it does 32 Bit Float too and it’s a little smaller and cheaper.

@kw9172

Жыл бұрын

@@soundjustlikeapro Wow, that was fast! Thanks a lot, much appreciated!

Is there anything like the Sound Devices Musician plugin for the Zoom? A way to overdub?

@soundjustlikeapro

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for reaching out. I don't think so but I'm probably not the one to ask. I just don't know. I have been using it as the inpoint for my recording lately but I do all multi tracking in Logic Pro.

Love it. Can i ask a question if you use a G3 or G4 wireless mic what is your input source MIC or LINE

@soundjustlikeapro

2 жыл бұрын

Hey there. Thanks for reaching out! I actually use a mixture of G3 and G4 for now. I run them at Mic level but have the “AF Out” cut by 15db on the receiver. I have a thing about not overdriving my gain stage.

@philpike6177

Жыл бұрын

@@soundjustlikeapro you'd get a better SnR by using them at Line Out +6db with lower gain, right?

@soundjustlikeapro

Жыл бұрын

@@philpike6177 maybe. But I have practically no noise in the signal as it is so why mess with a good thing?

@philpike6177

Жыл бұрын

@@soundjustlikeapro if you're happy, so be it! :)

@soundjustlikeapro

Жыл бұрын

@@philpike6177 it’s an interesting theory. I will test it and let you know. I am just speculating at this point but I’m thinking that the tech is better in the input gain of the F8n Pro than the output gain of the receiver pack. And by better I mean the gain of the Zoom stands a chance of being way more quiet than the Sennheiser. If so, that explains why the way that I do it is so noiseless right now. I’ll let you know. Thanks for the mind exercise tonight. I’ll get back to you the next time I run everything and let you know how it went. 😎

Hi.. I will tell you the set up that i has it and i need your help.. So thier is a sound come from the stage and analog mixer and my f8 zoom recorder so how i can get the perfect set up to connect the audio from the analog mixer to my f8 zoom recorder and take it out to the cameras? I hope you help me and answer my question.. Thanks

@soundjustlikeapro

Жыл бұрын

Hey! Thanks for reaching out! It all depends on your other gear. Does your analog console have XLR or TRS outputs? Does the camera have XLR inputs or just 1/8” TRS? If possible, I would go XLR out of the console into the F8n and XLR Mini out of the “Main Out” to XLR in on the camera. If that doesn’t work for your setup, I’d see about a dual female XLR Mini to 1/8” plug for the camera. If that isn’t available, I’d do a male 1/8” to male 1/8” out of the Sub Out into the camera’s 1/8” jack.

@just.decide_platforms.

Жыл бұрын

@@soundjustlikeapro can i take out from the mixer to input in the f8 recorder and plog receiver in subout of f8 recorder and sync with the transmitter to send the sound to the cameras?

Isn’t it dual ad converters 32bit float would a zoom f3 not do the same besides upgrading

@soundjustlikeapro

Жыл бұрын

I think the specs on what they do is the same. I needed more inputs so that’s why I went with the F8n Pro.

Any idea if you can chain two F8n Pros together to record 16+ tracks (with sample perfect sync)?

@soundjustlikeapro

2 жыл бұрын

That’s a cool concept. You could probably do that using a DAW on a computer. On a Mac, you might be able to set up an aggregate device and use the first one as 1-8 and the second as 9-16. That’s a great idea if you need more than 8. For that price though, you could get a decent digital mixer with a ton of inputs. Thanks for reaching out!

@NathanShirley

2 жыл бұрын

@@soundjustlikeapro Thanks. Actually I just found that at least with the older F8, two can be chained together via timecode (master/slave) and Zoom states that it is sample perfect. I believe the F8n Pro has timecode too, right? If so I assume you could do this for sample perfect sync. Here's a video I found on the process: kzread.info/dash/bejne/fZepo6WFpcS8eNo.html

@soundjustlikeapro

2 жыл бұрын

@@NathanShirley it absolutely does have time code. Thanks for the tip!

@SoundSpeeding

2 жыл бұрын

We'll be next month running 2x Zoom F8n on a Sound Cart for a TV Series! As we'll be having 2x Boom Ops plus up to FOURTEEN talent wired up. yes, they'll both be connected to each other (hardwired) via timecode. And I've heard as well that a Zoom rep says it is sample accurate

@soundjustlikeapro

2 жыл бұрын

@@SoundSpeeding nice! Sounds like a big job. Good luck out there! You in Atlanta?

F8n pro vs SD mixpre ii (6 or 10) any thoughts? Looking for commercial and short film as a 1 man band to 3-4 crew. So mostly operating my camera and sound.

@soundjustlikeapro

Жыл бұрын

Hey. Thanks for reaching out!You’d have to go to the Mix Pre 10 for a true Apples to Apples as far as inputs and such. I shoot with a guy that owns a Mix Pre 6 and he’s told me that my F8n Pro gives him just as good of files at the end of the day as his Mix Pre 6 does. If anything, mine are better. Of course, I’m a dedicated sound mixer on his shoots vs him doing sound as an afterthought on the 1 man band stuff. The thing is, the F8n Pro does all the same things as the MixPre 10. 32bit float, auto mix, insane amounts of crystal clear gain, and has the same type of outboard mix attachments. To me, it’s a matter of $675 worth of extra cash just for the name Sound Devices. I don’t know your situation but there are producers that I’ve come across in Atlanta that just know name brands and Zoom isn’t on the list. So that's a bummer sometimes. I do like the Mix Pre stuff though. It looks good and sounds good. The Zoom F3 and Zoom F6 are good too and do all the same things in much smaller frames. They just have less inputs. Either of those could sit right under a camera and never be in your way on the 1 man band gigs. Just a thought. F6 amzn.to/3FF2fU3 F3 amzn.to/40l3P5r

@cubul32

Жыл бұрын

@@soundjustlikeapro Thank you as well for all the info. Always great to hear from a pro. I am a 1 man band in theory 2-4 people usually. No issues with gear snobs. A couple of "issues" with F8n pro 1) the headphones amp I hear it's not that great. When would that be an issue? I'm trying to imagine of a situation when I'd need to hear properly what I'm doing and maybe folly sound (once in a bluemoon) could be a case. Is the headphones amp that terrible on F8n pro? 2) Folks say the knobs are small. Personally I rented F8n once and I did a successful recording. I liked having arm/PFL for each channel - and the knobs felt ok. Maybe all those set guys active mixing have other needs? I setup once for the shot then forget about it until the next setup. Btw I hear the mixpre ii TC generator could go out of sync in something like 6 hours. How's the zoom TC? I'm working with tentacle on the camera. Maybe I should jam the TC of a tentacle in the recorder as well?

@cubul32

Жыл бұрын

@@soundjustlikeapro PS I do commercial work and short films for me to grow a career. I am mostly a photographer/camera guy. I hope this is a purchase for now for 2-3 years. As I earn more money (if my creations get traction and I get good contracts) I hope to drop serious money on snob gear later on.

@soundjustlikeapro

Жыл бұрын

@@cubul32 those were kind words. Thank you for that! “Snob Gear” is my new favorite word, Ha. Yes, the headphone amp leaves some to be desired. I covered that in my most recent video starting around the 5:00 mark. The headphone monitoring definitely has some noise. My thoughts landed somewhere around the fact that I’d rather them put all of their R&D effort into what is hitting the SD card and I will settle for a little white noise in the monitoring. It’s not completely off putting or distracting. It’s something that your mind makes a mental note of and moves past within a few minutes. White noise is something that typically drives me crazy so you’d think that this would be a problem but it’s really not. I’ve never monitored with a Mix Pre so I honestly don’t know if that’s any better. The knob size has never been an issue at all. If you’re setting it and forgetting it on a set, this shouldn’t be an issue for you at all either. I’ve used it a lot in my bag while monitoring 4 Lavs and 1 shotgun while holding the boom over my head. I don’t like doing all of that at once but I’ve never thought to myself in those moments, “you know, if these knobs were bigger, all of my problems would go away.” I think you’ll be fine there. As far as time code, I’ve jammed a set of tentacles at the start of the day and have still been tracking with them at the end of an 8 hour day. I’ve done the same with the Diety boxes. I also run mine off of a Vmount battery so I don’t have to turn it off all day. Turning off and back on after lunch or a battery swap may introduce problems but I’ve never had to find out. I suppose, to be safe, you could Jam one more Tentacle and leave it plugged into the F8n Pro to run TC from all Tentacles. I really do think it will do everything you’ll need it to do for $675 cheaper than the MixPre You can see my video where I address the noisy headphone amp here. Let me know what you decide to do. LATEST VIDEO kzread.info/dash/bejne/c3yGtal7htibqag.html

@cubul32

Жыл бұрын

@@soundjustlikeapro Yeah I plan to use a V mount as well, power it and forget about it. Btw did you figure out how many Watt per Hour is the F8 pro sipping? Any ballpark examples? Thanks for the detailed answer - you clearly work in the biz by the way you answer ;) (detailed, careful, with links and timestamps). Snob gear has its place and time. I just bought a RED Komodo but I know I want that quality because - well - I'm an image snob at this point. As long as it's something the user wants, sure; but good image or good sound is not made by snob gear. One thing that might help me with the mixpre 6 ii is the 3.5 TRS output. And the 4 xlr config might be more than enough for now (I own 2 lavs g4 ew500 and an mke 600 shotgun for now - if I need more I guess I'll make the client rent dammit). I'm trying to think of when I would need that clean headphones signal or a mixpre in general. For one, I'm rather scared and I don't want to second-guess the noise every time I record; but that's just me being a noob at sound and not wanting to take a chance with clients that pay me good money. Then I know I want to do shorts (and possibly features) and I want to dabble on folly and sfx and I'll be running around with the recorder picking up all sorts of sounds - so having that instant feedback might be worth it for me. Last but not least, I might rent my gear and mixpre might be a more robust choice. I love that F8 interface but I lean so hard towards mixpre. So idk, I'm really obsessing here like a maniac. If I could have a choice I'd make a mixpre with a zoom interface lol (I think they call that 833? and it costs more than my car?).

Why don't they have Lith Pol (Li-Po) batts?

@soundjustlikeapro

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for reaching out. Instead of an internal battery that puts the unit out of service when dead, the best thing that they could've done was to make an interchangeable battery. This has 3 different ways to power itself. You have the option of 8 AA batteries in the tray, the 12v DC adapter that ships with the unit and the DC input via the Hirose connector. That last option is how I power mine. I have 2 cheap Lithium Ion V Mount batteries from amazon that I change out with mine and either one can run the unit for 2-3 shoot days. Here's a link to the video I did on that battery. Good luck out there! kzread.info/dash/bejne/eY6ZtsVxYqXeXbA.html

@ArjayMartin

Жыл бұрын

@@soundjustlikeapro Thanks for your reply

my zoom f8n pro doesn't have dual recording :(

@soundjustlikeapro

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. It’s not going to do that. It’s a shame. Have you tried the 32 Bit Float? It’s an amazing feature that eliminates a lot of the need for dual recording.

@maddentertainment1495

Жыл бұрын

@@soundjustlikeapro I’ll play around with it this week. Thanx

Yes unfortunately the new F8N Pro doesn't have the new connector for the fronts like the H8 does. So you couldn't for example use the VR peace. Or cooler yet the EX H8 for the 4 extra powered by the way XLRs so you could do 12 channal Dolby Atmos with the thing.

@soundjustlikeapro

2 жыл бұрын

True. It doesn’t have those things but it does have everything that I need and does everything I need. I’m happy to see that Zoom has such a diverse array of products now. They just had a handful of products back in the day when I bought my first H4n.

@hamitcampos4989

2 жыл бұрын

@@soundjustlikeapro Ah cool. Oh I'm not nocking it. Hell if I had the 1000$ I'd get this new 1 VS the F8N. I mean it does 32 bits audio. I'm just saying it was a missed opertunity. That had they given it that new connector you could do 12 channal 32 bits Dolby Atmos. Or with the VR H8 i think it's called you could do 32 bits ambisonics. Granted with the recorder as it stands you could do ambesonics with the Senheiser mics or Rode's NT-SF 1 mic I guess. Or the Tetra mic. Also to be fair all these will give you a studio sound as compaired to that VR peace. Which I suspect is something like Zoom's MS H6 ball. Which mid side with it sounds kinda cool. But meh it does sound kinda smallish and week. Maybe in part that's why they didn't do it. I suspect though you can snap on any of the handy recorder peaces to this most people just use studio mics. Right?

doesnt this ultamately not even matter if it just blows out at your transmitter stage?

@soundjustlikeapro

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for reaching out! You mean the 32 Bit Float? If so, you’re right. A clean capture of a dirty signal is still a dirty sound. It would be no different than a clean capture of a distorted or overdriven electric guitar. You can’t pull distortion out of a track if it happens before it gets to the track. It’s our job as sound engineers to make sure that things like transmitter clipping never happen. We have to do our best to stand in the way of anything that will ruin our sound capture and our mix. On wireless systems, I run the signal on the transmitter side as soft as reasonably possible. Like -12 or -18 and roll back the AF output of the receiver a little bit so the recorder gets a clean input. I hope that helps. Good luck out there!

@tetroxo394

2 жыл бұрын

@@soundjustlikeapro im a mixer too, have you gotten lectros yet? they have very good limiters

@soundjustlikeapro

2 жыл бұрын

@@tetroxo394 I haven’t. That’s one of my next big sound purchases though. I’m primarily a live sound and studio engineer for music. I’ve gotten back into on set sound recording recently after several years of a break and I’m building my rig back up for that.

@SoundSpeeding

2 жыл бұрын

You're right, if you're running analogue wireless then 32bit is of no benefit to you at all! (assuming you've set up your wireless optimally in the first place) The benefit of 32bit will be seen if you're using a hardwired boom, however in 2022 then practically speaking we rarely (if ever!) run a hardwired boom. Plus of course post would throw a fit if we ever gave them 32bit files! So nope, I won't record in 32bit, I'd like to be hired again for the next job please :-)

@SoundSpeeding

2 жыл бұрын

@@soundjustlikeapro if you're from the live sound world, then check out Shure Axient Digital instead of Lectrosonics! As you would be very familiar with the Shure world already. (even though Shure has been almost dead in the film industry, until very recently) I'm running a couple of dozen channels of Lectrosonics, but I might never buy another Lectrosonics, and all my future purchases could be Shure Axient Digital instead. Am very tempted by them. Although.... there is always that "one more" purchase of Lectrosonics which I want to do. Kinda want a second UM400a blk22! Kinda want a SSM C1 too. Definitely want one of the newly announced Lectro DSR4!

Get a v-mount battery and dtap to power cable and u will never run out of battery power

@soundjustlikeapro

7 ай бұрын

Thanks for reaching out. That’s how I’ve done it almost 18 months now. I talk about my battery in this video. Reytric BP 95 V-Mount Battery Unboxing and Review kzread.info/dash/bejne/eY6ZtsVxYqXeXbA.html There’s really no better way to run this machine than what you suggested. 😎

When you open the aduio documents you recorded to the SD card..... how does the show???? : like every sepparate channel????

@soundjustlikeapro

Жыл бұрын

If I’m understanding your question correctly, yes. I have mine set to give me an individual track for every channel that was armed plus a stereo mic down of all of them combined. That’s really the only way to go when you’re babysitting multiple inputs. My normal sound gig requires 4 lavs and a boom simultaneously. At the end of the day, I have 4 individual tracks for the lavs, 1 individual track for the boom, and a stereo track of all of them that I try to mix in the moment. It burns through the storage on the card but it’s really the only way to go if you want any options in post.

@asmr6773

Жыл бұрын

@@soundjustlikeapro 👍👍🏻👍🏼👍🏽👍🏾👍🏿

@asmr6773

Жыл бұрын

@@soundjustlikeapro can i use it for music making like for example: i record drums in channel 1 and then latter while playing back the drums in channel 1, i can then record asynthesizer in channel 2...???? I mean does i have to record simultaniously or can i record something in one channel and then while hearing what i have pre recorded i can record in a separate channel???

@soundjustlikeapro

Жыл бұрын

@@asmr6773 I don’t think that’s how any interface works. You need to think input vs. output. Your playback will come out of Output 1/2 which is completely different than Input 1 and Input 2. You can record into your DAW with any of the inputs into any channel on your daw while playing back all channels through the stereo bus (output 1/2) of your DAW.

@asmr6773

Жыл бұрын

@@soundjustlikeapro my plans are: to record the tracks to the SD card and then from the SD to the CPU (DAW). Thank you. 👍👍🏻👍🏼👍🏽👍🏾👍🏿

For me is not clear that sound is important to you and you record with cheap microphones yours KZread. I guess it’s a joke you recomment an Apex lol… why not go for a Gefell or Schöpf?

@soundjustlikeapro

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your concern. Are we concerned about the price of the microphone or the sound quality of the microphone? My channel in its entirety is about being impartial to gear. I use all sorts of gear and I give my opinions on it all. The Apex 460 is what I had available at the time of this video so it’s what I used in the video. My location sound gear was rented out to a friend and I wanted to make the video anyway. It is not the ideal microphone for this application because it was so far away but it was better than nothing. And it sounds pretty great actually. I bought it 14 years ago while in college and have used it for an unbelievable amount of projects. It’s the best sounding $300 microphone on the planet. Anyone who has a problem with that microphone has either never used one or is intentionally judging it by any metric other the one that matters, sound.

@DanielaTocan

Жыл бұрын

@@soundjustlikeapro sorry i would like to say you just do missleading marketing for china crap that you can make some extra coins. No problem. Very easy… why to make a video comparison with some professional gear? Ist’s the sound of this microphone. Very easy get the professional gear and send it back. Every 300 Viewer will buy. And fill yours pocket. And there is a rule in audio. Never provide worse sound quality to public. It’s yours reputation you damage. Look arround this thousands of Rode microphone videos where it gets obvious that those guys never did try to understand basics how to handle a microphone. To have a Title, sound just like a pro is missleading total with the use of this microphone. Sound like a marketer is shure the better title unless this recorders are realy damned good. But even the Pro have their negative points on my wishlist.

@soundjustlikeapro

Жыл бұрын

What is more misleading, to show the gear that I use that obviously sounds good nomatter the price point or to buy expensive things and return them just to make some affiliate income off of things that I don't actually use? The microphone that captured my voice in this video was all I could afford when I bought it 15 YEARS AGO and has been one of the biggest surprises of my career. When I bought my APEX 460 in 2007, I never thought that I would still be using it today on professional projects, but here we are. I have recorded albums with it. I have recorded hundreds of Voice Over projects with it. I would put it up against literally any microphone in it's price range and some well beyond it''s price range. It's totally fine to think whatever you want to think. It's interesting to me that you've taken such an interest in this one element of my channel, especially when this video in particular is about the differences of two field recorders. So thank you for your interest and concern. At the size that my channel currently is, I would think it would be obvious that I'm not out here marketing anything for "extra coins" or looking to "fill my pockets." I'm talking about the gear that I use and showing what it can do. I make all of my "coins" as a location sound person in the film/tv community and as a voice actor and musician, and I like it that way.

@DanielaTocan

Жыл бұрын

@@soundjustlikeapro it just sounds cheap and is not a good idea to use it if you wish to get recognised as a professional. I do not talk of any price range… it’s a Russian Chinese combination of crap that should not be used to promote. Professional means in this sense you have customers that pay you. This have nothing to do with Quality.

@soundjustlikeapro

Жыл бұрын

@@DanielaTocan as a professional sound recordist and microphone expert, what do you use for yourself and your own clients? I work as a voice actor and also tracking engineer for music and vocal ADR for film/tv. I have worked with this mic and many more on songs that have been on the radio and played all over world. A $10 hammer and a $100 hammer do the same job in the hands of a craftsman who knows how to use it. Professionals get the job done with the gear that they have and whatever gets it finished. My gear, all of my gear, has earned me more than enough credibility with clients and money from clients from all over world. Thank you for your concern but this mic, these field records, and every other piece of gear that I’ve chosen to use and talk positively about are all doing just fine. What is your set that you use to do what I do?

Hold on a sec. You spend ten minutes stating the differences between the two machines, extolling the '32 bit float" of the pro model, and then you say "I haven't had a chance to use it yet!" FFS.

Bad knowledge of audio dude - your ‘opinion’ on any audio gear is very irrelevant !

@soundjustlikeapro

3 ай бұрын

Thank you for taking your time to reach out to me. Feedback is always welcomed.