Chapters aren’t loading for some reason, so putting each temple’s timecode here!! 1:28 Wind Temple 💨 3:44 Lightning Temple ⚡️ 7:52 Water Temple 💧 12:12 Fire Temple 🔥

Regarding the Lightning Temple, I think it's pretty interesting how so many of the rooms contain "light" in their names. Room of hopeful light, room of light and shade, room of natural light, just to name a few. Perhaps the lightning temple was a sort of spiritual ground for the Gerudo to "cleanse" themselves in light. This lines up with the light of blessings, which are described to purge evil and purify with their radiance. Going even farther into speculation territory here, maybe the Zonai helped construct the spiritual aspects of the pyramid to give the Gerudo a chance to prove they don't stand with Ganondorf and his darkness-obsessed faction? idk, I'm just spitballing here, but it sounds pretty cool. Also, regarding Gorondia, there are a collection of ruins outside of the Fire Temple. There's nothing remaining except decaying foundations, all next to each other. Maybe this is where the Gorons lived, and their mining spot was the only placed that remained fully intact until today?

@KokiriTheory

10 ай бұрын

Yeah I thought that was really cool too!! I agree the lights seemed to have a spiritual vibe, and that “cleansing” idea would track. I’d need to go back to double check, but I think the rooms of light didn’t necessarily have Zonai tech affiliated with them / seemed to predate the Zonai influence, but that’s a fun theory to think about!! I noticed those Gorondia ruins too - I wish they’d been even a little more fleshed out to give us some hints about the ancient Goron society!!

I’ve been playing Zelda games since 1986. Now I’m your newest subscriber… i really love the TOTKingdom. How far we have come! I look forward just as much now to the future of games as I did when I was young. ….Tom

@KokiriTheory

15 күн бұрын

Thank you Tom!! You’re lucky to have seen the full evolution of the franchise😄

Integrating Zonai text into the architecture of the five temples could be an excellent opportunity to explore any theories we might have. Although most of the text in the temples is vertical, it adds a fun challenge to the task. I am determined to decipher any inscriptions I come across and will keep you posted on any progress I make.

@KokiriTheory

6 ай бұрын

I totally agree! I wish Nintendo had made the Zonai script translatable like Hylian, imagine all the lore they could’ve snuck in! There was a subreddit dedicated to the translation (r/totklang) but last I checked they hadn’t cracked it /weren’t sure if it was decipherable. But if you come up with anything def let me know because I’m super curious!!!

@Dalen_TOTK

6 ай бұрын

@@KokiriTheory Thats interesting, I've been going around the Water Temple marking all the locations where there are markings that might have some relevance there are two verticle pieces of zonai text, which I haven't yet translated, but I think that they simply translate to "Water Temple". There is also a shield-like shape, which might have something to do with the dungeon or just a decorative piece. if you go to the Secret Stone altar, and look to your right, next to the right furthest vase-like structure, there is a pillar, which can be found on the opposite side as well. it contains a corner decorative piece, or that's what I'm theorizing. the previously mentioned shield-like shape can be found as clear as day in the very center of the dungeon on the floor. this is accompanied by the decorative corner pieces surrounding them. Hope this helps, I figured out that the dungeon is repeated quite heavily, seemingly entirely symmetrical in regards to the central segment on the first floor.

Some points/thoughts: -What if the cannons on the ark isn't intended for offense, but defense? To protect the Rito against whatever threat is above? There must have been a reason the "god" fell after all. Those cannons seems a lot better situated for shooting at something from above than below. -The lighter gravity in the water temple isn't actually due to the height, but Zonai technology. The effect can be found elsewhere in other Zonai structures, and is also absent away from the temple, even higher up. -The sky islands were not always there, if i recall the land was raised up into the skies for protection after Ganondorf was sealed and Zelda had taken the long way back to the future. So the shortage is really just because the constructs have been constantly harvesting it since then from a limited supply, i'd assume. Nice vid tho, Zonai lore is in sad short supply. 👍

@KokiriTheory

15 күн бұрын

Some awesome thoughts here!! Lemme try and respond to all of them!! - interesting point about the canons being pointed upward, I should go back to the Ark so I can explore that some more!! Definitely interested in the concept of whatever caused the “god” to fall - lol yes I realized after this video that I got the gravity piece wrong 😂 I am super curious about how that tech works though as that wasn’t really explained! - the sky islands we see in the game were definitely raised post draconification but we do know the Zonai came from the sky (and we’ve seen many other sky based civilizations throughout the timeline) so I’m assuming there were sky islands we couldn’t see, or, in a later theory I did speculate that they were from outer space so maybe that’s why we hadn’t seen their homeworld.

@fallatiuso

15 күн бұрын

@@KokiriTheory Yeah, it's some rather interesting stuff. I too wanna know more about how the tech work, Zonai and Sheika. (and see more of their tech in general haha.) Personally i'm _somewhat_ fond of the "moon bunnies" theory (since that's a thing in east-asian mythology), positing that the Zonai came from the moon. They _are_ somewhat bunny-like with those ears after all. 😏 The origins of the Zonai really is a fascinating conundrum. We really do not know enough about them for how entangled their presence was in Hyrule's past.

@KokiriTheory

14 күн бұрын

Yeah I dig that moon theory as well! It is disappointing how little lore we got, but we know from other games that the Hyrule Royal family sometimes hides elements of history that makes them look bad (ie the shadow temple), so that hidden history is part of the reason why I feel the Zonai era may have been… less than diplomatic 😅

Great analysis here, KT 😎

@KokiriTheory

10 ай бұрын

Thanks Wiz!!! 🪄⚡️

Glad to see your full breakdown into the lore of the temples!

@KokiriTheory

10 ай бұрын

Thank you!! Took a bit longer than I thought but glad it’s wrapped up!!😄

Great video, and an interesting take on how the Zonai descent to Hyrule may have played out! It's frankly criminal that your videos have better production quality than mine, yet you have half the subscribers. Here's to getting more subs!

@KokiriTheory

10 ай бұрын

Haha, thank you! Working on it, slowly but surely! 😄🎉

First o all, this video>>>. Second, I never thought of the sarcophagi part in the lightning temple!

@KokiriTheory

6 ай бұрын

Thanks so much!! I know, once I realized that’s the statues in the temple probably were it blew my mind lol 🤯

Fun little theory: The constructs are not made from metal, but tree sap/amber. That would explain why they are seen chopping down trees.

@KokiriTheory

14 күн бұрын

That is a fun theory! When I first heard their sound effects it kinda reminded me of the Koroks which of course evokes wood material! Personally I think its more stone based since that construct factory is under ground/mine based, but wood is a cool idea!!

@Mr.Foxhat

14 күн бұрын

@@KokiriTheory Perhaps! I just figured the color scheme of the constructs fit well with the amber theory.

@KokiriTheory

14 күн бұрын

@Mr.Foxhat yeah I could see that for the orange colored components. Although Zonaite also has some orangey stripes which could account for that 🤔

I'd love to hear your theories on the Zonai Ruins on the surface of Hyrule, particularly those in the jungles.

@KokiriTheory

10 ай бұрын

Yeah this is something I’m thinking about for a future video!! I think there are a few possibilities (the Zonai’s first surface settlement, a splinter group, a barbarian group of imitators?) but I need to do a little investigation to have a better sense of the history there

@EuropeanApple755

10 ай бұрын

@@KokiriTheoryyou’ve probably noticed how different the Zonai ruins found in Botw and on the surface are from the sky and depths ones. I don’t remember exactly where, but I noticed a spot where the surface barbaric aesthetic is cracked and under it is the pristine sky and depths Zonai look. So this means that all this Zonai stuff from botw isn’t actually Zonai. What this means, I have literally no clue, but I had to share it

@KokiriTheory

10 ай бұрын

@@EuropeanApple755yeah I was puzzled by that too!! Is it another society just building on top, or maybe the Zonai/someone else trying to conceal the true nature of the ruins? I definitely wanna look into that more because it’s super interesting

The lore for these dungeons has sort of gone over my head so this video was super cool for me. In regards to the founding of Hyrule though, it seems like that was done during a time when Rauru and Mineru were the only Zonai left (Ganndorf says as much). So stuff like the depths mines were likely (maybe) from a far earlier time, when the population of Zonai was much larger, but still after they first descended from the skies. Its hard to say which of these two time periods the Zonai influence in the temples would have come from, because its hard to see Mineru and Rauru alone assisting to that extent, but also from what you brought it up would make a lot of sense for the Water Temple to have been made around the founding. Though I'd say the Wind Temple is likely to have been earlier, because by the time of Rauru it seems like the Zonai had been operating on the surface for a while so the story of a Zonai descending from the skies and making the arc wouldnt make as much sense. To me it would make sense if that happened when the Zonai first started descending? But who knows really, the story is pretty vague and likely doesn't include all of the details. For the other two temples I don't have any significant thoughts to contribute other than maybe the additions to the Lightning Temple maybe being some sort of power generator for the Gerudo that fell out of use for some reason? Dunno.

@spicysquire3521

10 ай бұрын

But tldr I do think that the detail of the founding of Hyrule being in a time when Rauru and Mineru were the only Zonai remaining might affect some of the ideas you present, but also might not necessarily contridict them. I do think that Rauru could have won the other races over peacefully with knowledge and technology that could help them with what they needed help with, maybe even contributing man-power for building through constructs (which Mineru is shown to be capable of building), considering how friendly the leaders of the other races seem to be with him. Maybe that sort of collaboration (zora water works, devices assisting in goron mining, potentially the other two depending on other factors) is what we see in some of the temples? There could have been hostility, but I guess I just don't really see it with how the textual reason Ganondorf hates Rauru is that he created a time of peace rather than chaos (at least that's what I've been told was said in the Japanese version).

@spicysquire3521

10 ай бұрын

This comment and the reply have been me forming thoughts as I've been typing, it's 5 am, I hope it makes sense and is beneficial lol. Great video either way!! It really expanded my outlook and got me thinking deeper about all this stuff. These are just my takes, I could be wrong about any of it.

@KokiriTheory

10 ай бұрын

​@@spicysquire3521 Wow thanks for all this great analysis on this!! I was talking with some folks on reddit about this whole timeline issue because I was struggling with it myself - I didn't really communicate this in the video but the way I'm rationalizing it (in my head at least) is this: I'm assuming that from the time the Zonai first arrived and began attempting to mine Zonaite, the conflicts/diplomacy they established with the other races could have taken place over the course of a long time (centuries even), and the actions I described in the video ultimately created a system of a loose confederation of colonies/territories that were pretty much allied with (or under) Zonai control. As for Rauru, I think he came at the end of this era, and his role was formalizing the territories into a kingdom - having each group officially bend the knee to be officially absorbed into the kingdom if that makes sense. TLDR, essentially I think that Rauru's predecessors would've done most of the dirty work, he came along later to formalize the kingdom officially.

@KokiriTheory

10 ай бұрын

@@spicysquire3521 also I hadn't heard the part about the Japanese version where Ganon's mad that Rauru is establishing peace vs chaos. I guess my read is not so much that he wants chaos but he doesn't want to be controlled by a Zonai alien overlord (lol), mostly because I think that's more interesting/nuanced, but if that's the textual reason given then I guess I shouldn't try to rewrite the canon!! I'll have to look into that a bit more!! :D

@spicysquire3521

10 ай бұрын

@@KokiriTheory that timeline makes a lot of sense! I'm struggling to find the source for what I heard about Ganondorf's motivation, but I'm finding a lot of posts with people mentioning it. Detesting the Zonai/Rauru for their arrogance in thinking they should rule is also being mentioned as a motivation, so that could actually work well with your idea (even if personally I lean more towards the side of peaceful assistance because of the way they're presented). I'm not sure if I'll end up finding the source i originaly saw, but I'll send it on your reddit post if I find it.

I was so disappointed that every dungeon is just more zonai. It’s nice that it has thematic significance, but I just miss when dungeons were all unique not just aesthetically but mechanically.

@KokiriTheory

15 күн бұрын

Totally agree!! Hoping that’s something they’ll return to in the next game.

Earth has been getting pillaged for its recourses in such a brutal way. It’s hard to believe the ones doing it are from this planet….why would they destroy this planet unless they had somewhere else to live? At least the Zonai didn’t upset the ecological balance of the planet on which Hyrule exists. Which planet is that exactly? Any lore on that subject? …..Tom

@KokiriTheory

15 күн бұрын

Great points! There’s no canon lore that I know of about a Zonai homeworld but it sure if fun to speculate!

This is a personal headcanon of mine but I believe the Zonai like humid and moist weather and hate hot and dry weather like Eldin and Gerudo and this is why they didn't leave a large influence on those two temples.

@KokiriTheory

7 ай бұрын

That’s an interesting headcanon! Why do you think that? is it because they come from the sky? 🤔

@annieandelsieofarendelle3294

7 ай бұрын

@@KokiriTheoryYup. Also, we don't see much of their culture in those areas, and they have fur in addition to scales.

@KokiriTheory

7 ай бұрын

@annieandelsieofarendelle3294 oh yeah that tracks!!

@annieandelsieofarendelle3294

7 ай бұрын

@@KokiriTheoryIt would also explain why their technology was so scarce in Gordonia, since they were probably the result of trade with the Gorons.

@KokiriTheory

7 ай бұрын

@annieandelsieofarendelle3294 for sure. If mining Zonaite really was the objective, the Gorons would’ve been the group with the most value to offer so evidence of trade vs conquest makes a lot of sense in Gorondia.

Who would’ve thought globalism was going strong even in the land of Hyrule?! I love this perspective 👏👏

@KokiriTheory

10 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!! 🙌 I think of it more as Zonai colonialism/imperialism but yeah it’s fun to speculate about!! Glad you enjoyed!

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Here from r/truezelda. Good work on the theory, and a well presented video!

@KokiriTheory

10 ай бұрын

Thanks so much!! I’m glad I posted over there - I’ve been enjoying having some more fun/in depth discussions with folks. 😄