Zinogre is Best Boy

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A massive deep dive into the king of the Fanged Wyverns, the Zinogre! We cover everything about this Monster Hunter icon, from his design, to his ecology, to his lore, and everything in between. There's a reason why he's a huge fan favorite!
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Zinogre theme Rise: • Zinogre / ジンオウガ - Batt...
Zinogre theme Iceborne: • MHW: Iceborne OST Zino...
Zinogre mount theme: • MHW Iceborne OST Zinog...
Yukomo village theme: • Yukumo Village Monst...
Seliana theme night: • Frontier Base ~ Selian...
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  • @cr-volcanic
    @cr-volcanic Жыл бұрын

    Timestamps: 0:00 : Ode to the Thunderwolf 3:14 : Introductions 7:03 : Lore 28:45 : Combat 37:55 : Design 50:08 : Gear 56:49 : variations 1:20:38 : Music 1:26:54 Conclusion

  • @greninjazac4577
    @greninjazac4577 Жыл бұрын

    I loved how in the older games, the duel blades can be made from both the main and sub species’ parts to make what can best be described as the Deviljho knives in my knife drawer

  • @cr-volcanic

    @cr-volcanic

    Жыл бұрын

    I’d love more combo dual blades, it’s always awesome to see em

  • @No-qf2qt

    @No-qf2qt

    2 ай бұрын

    @@cr-volcanicI love the Teostra/Kushala ones in rise it’s such a cool idea

  • @theconquestking6507
    @theconquestking65075 ай бұрын

    YOOO! at 45:57 you mentioned Zinogre being a giant lightning pangolin and around 5 months later the Wilds trailer shows actually large pangolin looking herbivores with lightning rods on their backs. Dude, you are on point.

  • @gurburgandr
    @gurburgandr11 ай бұрын

    You going in depth into zin has made me realize two things 1. Zin is cooler than I give him credit for 2. They gotta do what they’ve been doing with zin and give some of that panache to gammoth

  • @cr-volcanic

    @cr-volcanic

    11 ай бұрын

    I would LOVE a refurbished Gammoth

  • @FlintsForge6931
    @FlintsForge6931 Жыл бұрын

    an hour and a half video on everyone's favourite thunder dog , this is amazing I love these video's because they shine light on monsters what we know but don't think about it that much

  • @cr-volcanic

    @cr-volcanic

    Жыл бұрын

    Im just tryna highlight all the good shot I can find about theme monsters. Turns out some of em have a LOT of info

  • @PsychoticJesterYT
    @PsychoticJesterYT Жыл бұрын

    Wonderful video I found these videos after watching Oceaniz's Ecology videos. As you were mentioning the design for Zinogre as someone who is currently in school for creative writing for comics. I will mention flow of art isn't necessary, but usually is pleasing to the eye with conformity with the flow of his scales ,fur, etc. Hence that why teach it usually for the inexperience to create better art, but rules are usually just suggestions in art. I will agree Iceborne's design is sleek.

  • @cr-volcanic

    @cr-volcanic

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh certainly I never thought it was objective fact that a designs gotta be super streamlined and sleek, but the Iceborne one definitely looks less messy because of it

  • @blockodile4479
    @blockodile4479 Жыл бұрын

    What a fantastic video! Your improvement from prior videos is clear, and the consistent quality (Especially when faced with this titan of a video) is more than impressive. While my opinion on Zinogre is: He's good! :) I was really drawn in by your deep dive into his history and lesser known characteristics. You deserve much more attention than you are getting, though I'm confident that your time in the spotlight is well on its way. Have a damn good day.

  • @cr-volcanic

    @cr-volcanic

    Жыл бұрын

    Very nice of you to say! Channels still young but we’re still building and we’re gonna keep gettin better

  • @dylandog5075
    @dylandog5075 Жыл бұрын

    What a masterpiece of a video! Honestly I rarely watch videos this long on KZread. You managed to keep me not only entertained, but fascinated for an hour and a half. Zinogre has always been one of my favorite monsters in the game and I believe he's an icon for the Monster Hunters series itself, he deserves a deep dive into its lore, design and combat. I love that you gave the Stygian Zinger the respect it deserves, it is my favorite subspecies ever (in its Iceborne iteration) and I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who truly appreciates it. Your videos show the passion and genuine love you have for the series, so its great to be able to relate. Keep up the content and I'm sure you'll receive a much deserved popularity soon.

  • @cr-volcanic

    @cr-volcanic

    Жыл бұрын

    Ngl man, its been a hectic fuckin day and readin this brightened me up a bit. I'm really glad you enjoyed.

  • @MajinMattPlays
    @MajinMattPlays Жыл бұрын

    Before getting into this epic poem to honor Zinogre, I thought I'd pop into the comments and give some fun memories. I started the series with Rise, and Rathian made me really learn the game, but by god it was Zinogre that made me understand it. This guy kicked my butt back to Kamura 3 times, to this day the most any (normal) monster has carted me before a triumph. Since then, I've come to love the big shock doggo, he's not quite a Top 5 monster for me, but he's certainly Top 10. One of my favorite fights in Rise, GenU, and 4U, and Stygian is my favorite fight in all of World. I may not be the most OG fan of MH, but ZInogre has an effect on all of us.

  • @cr-volcanic

    @cr-volcanic

    Жыл бұрын

    He’s iconic for a reason

  • @JEASOUA

    @JEASOUA

    Жыл бұрын

    Stygian Zinogre is amazing in World. I don't mind Apex in Sunbreak either. In oldgen it can be quite intense once Zinogre gets charged up. Really changes the pace of the fight.

  • @chuckiedino135tv5
    @chuckiedino135tv5 Жыл бұрын

    Bruh CR, here's your crown, you are officially the most influential and best MH youtuber. 👑

  • @cr-volcanic

    @cr-volcanic

    Жыл бұрын

    Lmao I dunno about THAT. Maybe someday tho

  • @zmmrzmra6039
    @zmmrzmra6039 Жыл бұрын

    Really Impressed at the First Intro even Including games that are not in the Mainline Game. Good Job!

  • @cr-volcanic

    @cr-volcanic

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Those are a ton of fun to make

  • @OmniGman
    @OmniGman5 ай бұрын

    53:20 - I love how the Insect Glaive leans into Zinogre's occasional samurai aesthetic by resembling a naginata (a Japanese polearm weapon similar to a halberd)!

  • @raditz2737
    @raditz2737 Жыл бұрын

    46:12 From what I know the World book states that Fanged Wyverns are generally the oldest grouping and most of the other wyverns branched off from them. You can really see it in Zinogre and especially Tobi-Kadachi how something like that would occur. Generally tho I split Fanged Wyverns up into two smaller clases personally, the Mammal-like Fanged Wyverns (Zinogre, Magnamalo those folks) and the Lizard-like (Great Jagras, Dodogama and them). Generally you can tell whos more closer to who by the structure of their hands, Zinogre, Magnamalo and the Tobi's have one or more extended digits specialized for specific tasks generally prey capture and have "Fur" which is probably more then likely something similar to Picnofibers in Pterosaurs which can also explain why Zinogre's fur is so electrically absorbent as Picnofibers evolved from scales as do true feathers. Which brings me to an interesting point that Odogaron tho Mammal-like in appearance is probably more closely related to something like Great Jagras then it is to Zinogre seeing as its "extended digits" arnt even real fingers but bones from its wrist and the complete absence of any fur. Extra: Love the video btw, glad to see some Howling representation, despite the fight seemingly being insane most of his moveset is rather tame in comparison with the rest of the monsters and is very doable. He's the first Mouso I intend to take down once I gather the adequate gear because as of right now I would get squashed so hard lmao

  • @cr-volcanic

    @cr-volcanic

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s some cool shit that I didn’t know. Fanged wyverns are a super interesting category for me personally cuz they’re so broad and so close to mammals in some cases. I didn’t know that they were considered some of the older wyvern species tho I suppose that does makes sense. I assumed fanged wyverns lost their wings kinda like piscines did but kept the larger forelimbs, but it def makes sense both ways.

  • @raditz2737

    @raditz2737

    Жыл бұрын

    @@cr-volcanic Well generally flight is an adaptation of the highest caliber, in our history there has only ever been 4 groups that have attained the ability to fly, Insects, Pterosaurs, Birds and most recently Bats. The morphological changes that come with that are extreme, animals that loose the ability to fly never revert their wings to their ancestral trait but change them to suit other functions like Penguins changing their wings into flippers or sometimes they begin to loose them all together as is the case with the Moa of New Zealand turning them into a vestigial limb.

  • @JanusHoW

    @JanusHoW

    2 ай бұрын

    @@cr-volcanic The Fanged Wyverns, to me are Monster Hunter's equivalent of the mammal-like reptiles that first evolved during the Permian and Triassic Periods, long before any true dinosaurs came into being. The apex land predator of that time was one of these mammal-like reptiles - we named it Saurosuchus, and it has an overall body design very akin to a basic Fanged Wyvern like a Jagras or a Girros. Meanwhile, the wolf-like Zinogre is almost certainly the result of Fanged Wyverns continuing to evolve and branch out into more specialized and effective forms over the ages, followed by that happy (for the species) accident of it forming the symbiosis with Thunderbugs.

  • @DDViking
    @DDViking Жыл бұрын

    Amazing video! Keep up the good work. 🙌

  • @cr-volcanic

    @cr-volcanic

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks man!

  • @saurianfan7102
    @saurianfan7102 Жыл бұрын

    1:09:54 Actually if I remember correctly, it was a translation error. In Japanese I think they are referred as "Leaders of the Pack" so a more accurate term that wouldn't conflict with 4 Ultimate would be Alphas.

  • @cosmictraveler1146
    @cosmictraveler114611 ай бұрын

    Ooooh got to the raiju bit and Manetric also is based on the same thing and wondered why it was blue and yellow,man such a nice design

  • @graceypatrick
    @graceypatrick5 ай бұрын

    You’re videos are amazing and very high quality and very well made. Probably my favorite monster hunter KZreadr

  • @nargo9734
    @nargo973411 ай бұрын

    CR doing gods work! What a fantastic video of my Fav. Monster from the whole franchise👏

  • @hyperbomb7437
    @hyperbomb743711 ай бұрын

    Zinogre is my favorite monster of all time! Zinogre was the monster that whooped my ass. But It taught me to be smart with how I approach a monster learn about it’s weaknesses and strategies not go in guns blazing, and for that alone it easily is my favorite monster hunter monster of all time.

  • @Masterofhammers
    @Masterofhammers11 ай бұрын

    This guy is partially the reason I love all the Fanged wyverns. Tobi kadachi is in my 10 favorite monsters. Odogarons and Lunagaron are exceptional monsters. Jagras, Dodogama and Girros are nicely put together. And Magnamalo.... Idk. I can't hate or love him. He's been controversial for me since his release. But Zinogre? 8 years. 8 YEARS. He was one of the most unique and special monsters back in the day. There wasn't anything like him. I think that's what made him so popular. With all that it pains me to say that he should honestly take a break. He's been in every game including frontier and stories. He's a classic and a good monster don't get me wrong. But I want other monsters to get that pice of glory he enjoys. Astalos and Lagiacrus are the perfect examples as both are my favorite thunder monsters. Zinogre is and will always be a good Boi. And now he ain't alone anymore

  • @cr-volcanic

    @cr-volcanic

    11 ай бұрын

    It’s been really nice to get more fanged wyverns, they turned into such a varied and intriguing group.

  • @dragonlord4194
    @dragonlord4194 Жыл бұрын

    Alright then this time not as much from me, since i only ever encountered him in Iceborne so far. But thank you for delivering this lore to us. I did not know about Amatsu being the reason why Zinogre even became a worry to the hunter guild. And him being a more powerful version in the New World might even have another reason, thanks to the Everstream and it being the place for Elder Dragons to go and die. I feel like the monster populations in the New World have long been seperate from the ones in the old world, besides strong flying wyverns like Rathalos and Rathian. Anjanath bridging the gap between all three wyvern classifications, further connects Zinogre to the other wyverns. Anjanath has wings like flying wyverns, the general body structure of Brute Wyverns and (what he shares with Zinogre) a fur coat made from simple downy feathers. But overall Zinogre is a fine monster for me. I like the unique ecology he got in Iceborne, like howling to the moon in the Ancient Forest, but as a fight i do not enjoy him as much as I do Nergigante for example. And thanks to me being a CB main his weapon never really bothered me, looking way to thick in the shield part to have an sort of change to cute in the axe mode.

  • @cr-volcanic

    @cr-volcanic

    Жыл бұрын

    His lores one of the coolest things about him, they went pretty ham with it

  • @dragonlord4194

    @dragonlord4194

    Жыл бұрын

    @@cr-volcanic They do with many of the flagship monsters. Like Brachydios and how his slime works or Nergigante and his role for the ecosystem as a Elder Dragon hunter

  • @Kira-qp5ll
    @Kira-qp5ll9 ай бұрын

    Seeing the GU gameplay had me in TEARS- You blowing up the cat thing as you go flying and then immediately going into valor sheath and getting exhausted thanks to Zinogre missing was mad funny 😭

  • @cr-volcanic

    @cr-volcanic

    9 ай бұрын

    I have not had time to play that game in a very long time and it shows

  • @Kira-qp5ll

    @Kira-qp5ll

    9 ай бұрын

    If you ever need help grinding, you can hmu. I'm not a god at GU, but my Valor GS isn't bad I don't think lmao

  • @afroling2096
    @afroling2096 Жыл бұрын

    Zinogre has always been a guilty pleasure for me. I’m not the biggest fan of flash monsters but some how some reason I just can’t get over zinogre. His design doesn’t look like a wolf nor dose he have anything comparable to wolf out side of the howling tho I do think he’s suppose to look more like a raiju a scaly lupine creature so in that’s case I don’t mind it’s look compared to something like say magnamalo or some frontier monsters tho I will say the design is wee bit spiky tho the spikes do have a biological purpose for venting out the electrical heat and home for the fulger bugs. For his fight I think 5-gen really helped, his old gen versions are a wee bit annoying essentially with the clunky movement and restricted options. He feels a lot better to fight in 5 gen with the bet movement and options. My favourite version of zinogre is the new world base zinogre for its much more restrained and slim design compared to the large chunky body of the old world design. Also it could have potential for monsters to have a different physiology depending on the continent they live with a different body plan.

  • @cr-volcanic

    @cr-volcanic

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh he’s 100% based on Raiju

  • @Mecha_Narwa
    @Mecha_Narwa11 ай бұрын

    Excellent video!

  • @cr-volcanic

    @cr-volcanic

    11 ай бұрын

    Thank you!!

  • @ThiccThighEnjoyer
    @ThiccThighEnjoyer5 ай бұрын

    Zinogre was one of my MH4U walls, it really made me have to learn timing and proper roll timing, didn’t help that I was trying to learn how to use switch axe after figuring out that insect glaive was giving me bad habits

  • @VashimuXIV
    @VashimuXIV Жыл бұрын

    Another of my first loves that I met when I started playing over two years ago, and while he isn’t my favorite Fanged Wyvern anymore, Lunagaron is, I think he’s such an incredible creature. My bias as a wolf lover is very obvious and I’m not sorry.

  • @cr-volcanic

    @cr-volcanic

    Жыл бұрын

    Nothin to apologize for lmao. A lightning wolf wyvern is a rad as fuck concept

  • @VashimuXIV

    @VashimuXIV

    Жыл бұрын

    @@cr-volcanic Also thank you for being fair about his old world design and new one. I’m still partial to the old world aesthetic because it’s how I met him, but I agree it’s a lot sleeker thanks to Iceborne. I always just viewed it as regional variations, two sides of the same coin.

  • @cr-volcanic

    @cr-volcanic

    Жыл бұрын

    @@VashimuXIV conceptually I think the forward facing shockers look pretty sick but I think the uniformity just makes him look a little cleaner. And a cleaner, sleeker look helps a very busy definition look a bit better. Just my opinion, I get why some prefer the classic

  • @VashimuXIV

    @VashimuXIV

    Жыл бұрын

    @@cr-volcanic It’s certainly a matter of preference indeed, but I’d never be against the Iceborne model being the standard they stick too. Also I agree Stygian is the best Zinogre.

  • @massivemarcelo7333
    @massivemarcelo733311 ай бұрын

    Kinda funny how you described Wyvern Rex without saying its name while you give your theory on why the Zinogre isn't a dog. Wyvern Rex is said to be the ancestor of all wyvern.

  • @thacasual9320
    @thacasual93204 ай бұрын

    Me and my brother still call him Jinouga to this day, since playing MHP3rd. Brings back memories

  • @bobisuncanny2760
    @bobisuncanny27605 ай бұрын

    Unpopular opinion : My favorite Zinogre theme is actually the one from the MH-P3rd intro. It sounds so heavy, almost distressing cuz the "predator" aspect like you were describing is even more emphasized here with the drums (i mean during the scene, we literally can't see his eyes, they totally dig into a eerier aspect of a top of the food chain predator) and a perfect mix between badass electric guitar and epic japenese vibes with that sweet flute. And damn, all together it goes incredibly HARD !

  • @liuser
    @liuser4 ай бұрын

    On the integument of Zinogre, birds are dinosaurs and dinosaurs evolved from reptiles. Feathers originated from pycnofibers which resembled downy fur (think chick fluff) before becoming feathers as we know them today. Even pterosaurs (those "flying dinosaurs" which branched off from dinosaurs millions of years ago) had them, so it's a very basal trait that i would imagine is a near-universal integument that was lost as wyverns grew in size (such as T. Rex who was large enough to be both scaly and possibly slightly feathered based on what integumentary fossils we have of it). Not sure if Wyverns are supposedly related to our real-world pterosaurs, but it makes as much sens as them coning from almost any other reptile lmao

  • @andrewgunderson8975
    @andrewgunderson89754 ай бұрын

    I think rise could have had a very cool opportunity to show how thunder bugs interacted with the qurio, defending zinogre from them and potentially absorbing some power from them, thus making a new, crazy zinogr.

  • @Evan-mt7bc
    @Evan-mt7bc4 ай бұрын

    Zinogre is also one of the few monsters in the series with unique interactions with traps. Because Shock Traps are made from Thunderbugs a non charged up Zinogre will enter his Super Charge state if you fail to capture him and he's also trapped for approximately half the time when the trap ends and he is completely immune to Shock Traps when he's in the Super Charge state. He shares this empowered interaction with Astalos but Astalos will be trapped for the full duration and is never immune to the Shock Trap when fully powered while Zinogre is. Unique trap interactions is exclusively reserved for dynamic monsters like Diablos, Deviljho, Seltas Queen and Rajang.

  • @jakomioftherose2434
    @jakomioftherose24345 ай бұрын

    He really IS the best boy. Always capture unless the objective says otherwise.

  • @overlordchemm3705
    @overlordchemm370511 ай бұрын

    The guitar in Zinogre's theme always makes me think of rain. The drums obviously bring to mind thunder and lightning, and the woodwinds bring the wind aspect, but there's enough distortion on the guitar that it sounds like this constant wall of noise just pouring down on everything.

  • @cr-volcanic

    @cr-volcanic

    11 ай бұрын

    Cool way to think about it

  • @007accessb4
    @007accessb4 Жыл бұрын

    awesome video as always, and to answer your question zinogre is indeed a reptile. Like every wyvern in the series, zinogre is part of the order saurischia and has a saurischian hip bone (shown in concept art from the mh-illustrations-2 book). on the subject of design i can only speak for myself here i personally never found zinogre to be over design, merely just flashy. everything about his design plays a proper role with his ecology and theme, his horns and spikes aren't as obnoxious as say magnamalo or some of the late game frontier monsters. if i were to critique his design is that the way it functions simply does not make sense to me, we know the fulgur bugs resides in his shocker's to provide him with his power, so logically zinogre would need to have his shockers out when not charged to better gather the bugs and when he does become charged he would have them closed shut to securely trap the fulgur bugs inside of him to better use their electrical power. to me its really weird seeing him leaking out all those fulgur bugs whilst running around when fully charged, pretty much wasting all that potential electrical energy.

  • @zakwancu3
    @zakwancu36 ай бұрын

    in my eyes, zinogre never been grandios. he's more of a rouge ronin type, the brawler, gangsta, yakuza, a kid grown up in the wrong side of the street, a survivor and do whatever it take to win. he do whatever he likes, takes whatever he like, his weapon hinted this, his main title The Usurper old world zenogre, he's has an air of a dangerous man in the back alley in world he feels like a pro fighter, dangerous yet distant

  • @cordifox
    @cordifox10 ай бұрын

    Zinogre my favorite monster. He's a giga chad. mizutsune being my 2nd and nargacuga being in 3rd. even tho rise is my 1st monster hunter game. An i have his armor, duel blades and layered armor.

  • @Rui_Vuusen
    @Rui_Vuusen Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video as always! It's stuff like this that sets monster hunter apart from the rest of the genre, the love and attention to detail to things like ecology, biology, etc. And the intricate details of their behaviors and fight mechanics. All that being said, I would like to say I'd love for zinogre to take a break in MH6, as his inclusion is becoming a bit tired and expected, similarly to diablos and Tigrex. Still an awesome monster, but it'd be great to see a monster that hasn't seen some light in a while take his place in the roster. Ala Seltas Queen or Malfestio Also a quick note: i believe the rise "apex" monsters was a localization mistake that was made by the company that capcom outsourced the localization to. In japanese it likely translates totally differently

  • @cr-volcanic

    @cr-volcanic

    Жыл бұрын

    Doesn’t shock me that that was a mistranslation

  • @Rui_Vuusen

    @Rui_Vuusen

    Жыл бұрын

    @@cr-volcanic I see what you did there ;)

  • @Neloch4
    @Neloch43 ай бұрын

    like a fine wine!

  • @wichiewamirez5599
    @wichiewamirez55996 ай бұрын

    I imported the ps3 version of mhportable 3rd just to fight the Jinouga. I went through a phase where I thought he wasn’t that cool but after seeing him in world he’s honestly such a visually amazing monster

  • @automato436
    @automato4365 ай бұрын

    Zinogre is my all time favourite. If he comes back in wilds I don't want the normal version anymore I just need a Variant. I need new Zinogre sustenance.

  • @williamdeweese6134
    @williamdeweese613411 ай бұрын

    The male chorus really reminds me of some of the skyrim soundtracks, although it is more in the background and lets the instruments do most of the work

  • @cr-volcanic

    @cr-volcanic

    11 ай бұрын

    I can def see the comparison

  • @josephthomas3766
    @josephthomas37668 ай бұрын

    He is wolf, but he’s in not he is a wyvern, but he is not but he is a synapsid.

  • @lilshax7297
    @lilshax72975 ай бұрын

    For me Zinogre is an ED level monster like Rajang, Deviljho, Bazelgeuse, Magnamalo. Imagine a variant with the fire element because Zinogre has no variant. I hope they will have more turf wars with also elder dragons and other monsters because the ones they gave him are not crazy and I would like them to have new attacks and that the ThunderLord returns in MH Wilds

  • @Dres2000
    @Dres200010 ай бұрын

    I already love zinogre, but this video made me smile for a straight Hour and a half.

  • @cr-volcanic

    @cr-volcanic

    10 ай бұрын

    Really happy to hear that!

  • @swiniak8545
    @swiniak8545Ай бұрын

    Hey in what place do u make this photos in MHR nice view :)

  • @athos9293
    @athos92936 ай бұрын

    Hell yeah Zinogre 💪💪

  • @cabildoseanlenard523
    @cabildoseanlenard523 Жыл бұрын

    Rathalos may have main character status but zinogre have whole badass side character who steal the main character show form main character status

  • @cr-volcanic

    @cr-volcanic

    Жыл бұрын

    Truuuuuue

  • @cordifox

    @cordifox

    10 ай бұрын

    So what you're saying is Rathalos is Goku and Zinogre is vegeta. I can get behind that Zinogre is my favorite monster as vegeta is my favorite dragon ball character.

  • @AvalonQueen34
    @AvalonQueen34 Жыл бұрын

    I have mixed feelings with this guy, i don't think its bad or anything like that but for some reason i just struggle so much when i have to fight him, doesn't matter if it is low rank or master rank, if it is Rise or GU, i alwayz hit a wall wich makes me hate him, BUT, when i finally manage to get the rythm of the fight and complete the quest it feels really really good, so i can't really hate him for real, it feels like a nemesis or something 😂

  • @victory8928

    @victory8928

    7 ай бұрын

    For me it is kinda more like I am burnt out on it and that was from one game mostly cause I don’t find it to be all that interesting compared to even Stygian which I enjoy fighting more. I am also not that big of a fan of it cause it doesn’t really fight the locales it ends up in. Zin is a mountain dweller wyvern and the only mountainous area is not one that Zin is for. In rise I say it fits much better.

  • @UselessCar101
    @UselessCar101 Жыл бұрын

    Great video not really the biggest fan of Zinogre personally but I can respect him also HES A GIANT LIGHTNING PANGOLIN got a good laugh out a me

  • @cr-volcanic

    @cr-volcanic

    Жыл бұрын

    Bruh, I legit googled “mammals with scales” saw pangolins and was like, “THATS IT!”

  • @IndominusRex-wc1ey
    @IndominusRex-wc1ey7 ай бұрын

    Do you still have any of these cooking up? I'd love to see one for my boy Agnaktor but thas just me

  • @cr-volcanic

    @cr-volcanic

    7 ай бұрын

    Oh for sure, Gonna get back to em after New Years

  • @dianauwu1312
    @dianauwu131210 ай бұрын

    I'm not a huge fan of Zinogre's design, but its fight? Classic. Always down to face one, in any game. It's just that good. Edit: Oh and it's got some of the best looking gear in the series.

  • @vincentpey3929
    @vincentpey3929 Жыл бұрын

    Zinogre is pretty great, was one of my favorites when i first started with 3u and or 4u (idk in wich game i encountered it first probably 4u). Nowadays i am a bit more critical and think its a bit overdisigned, but the shire quality of the fight allows me to ignore that. I like stygian its pretty cool and a lot more difficult, bit heavy on the edge though. Thunderlord is the best Zinogre in terms of its fight, the disign is kinda silly but the fight is so good that i can overlook that, that and the colorsheme is way better than the other two. Kinda wish Zinogre (and most of the flagships) could sit a game out, think they kinda loose their magic when theyre just a standart inclusion...

  • @cr-volcanic

    @cr-volcanic

    Жыл бұрын

    I think if they sit out again, people are gonna want em in the expansion AGAIN. And then you run the risk of repeating a lot from Iceborne, I say keep some of em in a little longer, then give em a break

  • @vincentpey3929

    @vincentpey3929

    Жыл бұрын

    @@cr-volcanic yeh i get that, im fine with the returners as long as they fit into the environments in the new games, for example i hope we get a cold high altitude dessert, Tigrex would fit right in an environment like that... Just dont want to see creatures in environments that dont really make sense for them, Nargacuga belongs in dense jungles not in the misty mountains of the shrine ruins.

  • @cr-volcanic

    @cr-volcanic

    Жыл бұрын

    @@vincentpey3929 yeah Rise had some fuckin weird Monster placements in general. I think they fuckin ran outta snow monsters and just slapped a couple of em in the isles

  • @vincentpey3929

    @vincentpey3929

    Жыл бұрын

    @@cr-volcanic the maps in rise overall dont really feel like theyre build arround the monsters within, or at least the majority of monsters feel like they dont belong there, i mean what the hell is Khezu doing inside an active Vulcano...

  • @cr-volcanic

    @cr-volcanic

    Жыл бұрын

    @@vincentpey3929 FORREAL DUDE! And why is Aknosom in the Isles?

  • @Slades
    @SladesАй бұрын

    If you like that orchestral/rock type of music, check out the symphonic metal genre. I recommend Nightwish and Trans Siberian Orchestra.

  • @athos9293
    @athos92936 ай бұрын

    1:16:06 Poborubarumu can do that

  • @loopsmaster2192
    @loopsmaster2192Ай бұрын

    Hard video

  • @stormerjc9493
    @stormerjc949311 ай бұрын

    I've always had a mixed opinion on zinogre because there's a lot to love about him but from a design standpoint he'd had issues To start with the Possitives zinogre has a great theme, fight over all games, gear, ecology and lore with a Intresting rock paper scissors dynamic with gargwa and fulger bugs, a cool dynamic with amatsu and a awesome turf war with Mizutsune, one of the best subspecies in stygian and a great deviant in thunderlord, a great gimmick in being able to catch fulger bugs off his back and the fact he can eat a shock trap and charge up off it is very cool, and he's makes great use of his yokai inspiration, and a specific note on the iceborne incarnation if you look at the back of his spikes and his horn structure they look like they have honeycombs structures like you would see in a bee hive for the fulger bugs to rest/nest which is such a stupidy small but awesome detail that makes him feel more like a creature to me it's fantastic, this is all great stuff Now for the negatives, now keep in mind I'm a big ecology guy and a avid unnatural history channel enjoyer so that's informing my opinion here, first of his design in the old games was.... Messy, he didn't look like a animal, he looked like a flashy smashy ball of spikes and brightness, to me, he clashed a lot, however iceborne did a world of favours to zinogre and helped to massively shift my opinion on him, making him acutaly fit together as a animal with better proportions, colour pallet and a better flow to the design as you said, but il still not a fan of his chin spikes and I would rather he just didn't have them at all, icebornes modle is absolutely the one that needs to be used in future tho. Now my second problem is the environments they put him in , zinogre seems to be designed to be a mountain/jungle/forest monster and seems to be native to the continent where most of them are found, so why he's in polar regains escapes me and the fact he's in the coral highlands when there's no big game for him to eat is just a bit bizarre, I'm also not a fan on how stygian is both a artic and Volcanic subspecies, I would like them to pick a lane on that one, I also miss stygians hovering/homing dragon balls and hope he gets them back in future, I also feel in iceborne he didn't give a very good showing in his turf wars, they didn't show of his power, I also don't like how he will just casually go about fully charged as the noise and glowing would give away his position to potential prey, in his ecology cutscene he littery scares away all the viable prey in the area for no real reason other then to look cool, the charged glowing should be a threat display agienst other large monsters and hunters only in my opinion, so I hope they can build on ways for him the charge up quick. Well done to anyone who acutaly read this all the way through this essay of mine lol had a lot of zinogre thoughts I was To to get out there

  • @victory8928

    @victory8928

    7 ай бұрын

    Same as well I feel that Zin is just tacked on to the game which makes sense as the devs admit he wasn’t even considered at first and was added cause he is a fan favourite. Stygian I feel makes more sense to be locked to colder climates and yeah I agree it feels kinda wishi-washi that sty is just zin in more inhospitable climates.

  • @saurianfan7102
    @saurianfan7102 Жыл бұрын

    The Ode to the Thunderwolf was nearly perfect... but you used the wrong roar at the end. See, Zinogre's roar went through a... change in Worldborne that I and many others disagree with. Compare the roar you used... with this one! kzread.info/dash/bejne/fJhpmq-qnMWtps4.html Much better right?

  • @cr-volcanic

    @cr-volcanic

    Жыл бұрын

    I liked how that howl looked with that scene. Purposeful artistic choice

  • @saurianfan7102

    @saurianfan7102

    Жыл бұрын

    @@cr-volcanic Fair, I just prefer the old howl. Aside from that, THIS VIDEO IS AMAZING.

  • @cr-volcanic

    @cr-volcanic

    Жыл бұрын

    @@saurianfan7102 lol thank you

  • @cr-volcanic

    @cr-volcanic

    Жыл бұрын

    @@saurianfan7102 I prefer the old one too. My choice was, the Iceborne howl is a bit more of a straight up wolf howl and pairs really well with that shot of him with the moon, and the final shot I went with the OG roar cuz I wanted a sound effect with a bit more power to it

  • @lucacomparato
    @lucacomparato11 ай бұрын

    I do not agree, he isnt a good, friendly, chubby, wobbly, snoozy, fluffy boy. I hate him every time he gets enraged it gives me Vietnam Flashbacks and i despise this.

  • @DragonsRocks017

    @DragonsRocks017

    11 ай бұрын

    Git gud

  • @lucacomparato

    @lucacomparato

    11 ай бұрын

    @@DragonsRocks017 been farming Thunderlord lately, got gud with base doggo now. I also found a new nightmare but thats ok

  • @khalil8043
    @khalil804311 ай бұрын

    I highly disagree, Iceborne Zinogre is not the best one design wise, too scaly and has little to no fur. I don't care about the shockers. The whole thing doesn't look like it fits together. Rise design is better

  • @victory8928

    @victory8928

    7 ай бұрын

    I agree with how rise handled the fur. Zin in world is also so massive that it is kinda off putting. They are smaller in the older games though I am kinda just burnt out in Zin cause the fight is kinda annoying to me, i can dance Zin’s head off but I don’t enjoy it too much just a turn off my brain fight at points.

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