Thank you so much for the video! Finally i understand the differences between the 3 integrations :-)

Thanks a lot for this very helpful analysis and comparison!

Thanks for putting in the effort, great comparison! have zha will use zigbe2mqtt

I really appreciate the time and effort you put into creating such a comprehensive comparison video👍

@SmartHomeJunkie

8 ай бұрын

Thank you very much!

Thanks for putting in the effort, great comparison!

I am getting ready to add my first Zigbee devices to HA, starting with Aqara temp humidity sensors. I will start with a Sonoff Dongle E and load ZHA. Then I will try Zigbee2MQTT. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction(s)!

Thanks for this info; it confirms what I've seen so far. I didn't evaluate by choice, but by necessities. I started out using DeConz and had some issues with device stability and functionality over time, so I switched to ZHA. In my experience, using my setup, ZHA is a better choice. Setup, pairing, operating are just better with ZHA. I have yet to try Zigbee2MQTT, so don't know how that would fare in my setup. With my "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" mentality, I probably won't try that until something goes wrong in my current ZHA setup.

Excelent work!!! As always. Thanks

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. 🙏🏻 Glad you like it.

Excellent video Ed! It was really helpful, I'd been debating of switching from ZHA to Zigbee2MQTT but now thanks to your video I think I'll just stick with ZHA.

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

Great that it helped to make your choice easier!

Thanks, enjoyed your comparison. I am using ZHA as Z2M was draining my Tradfri 5B which was very painful. I will most likely try again soon as I want to use Tasmota wall switch to control mqtt devices and hopefully make the house more robust.

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

I am glad you like it!

Great video again. Thank you very much!

Thanks for the comparison. It just confirmed that ZigBee2MQTT it's the correct add on I am using.

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

Nice!

Good video, as a poweruser I also like to have a MQTT broker in the middle as in my case i have both domoticz and hass and that way both can work with the same sensors. It give more freedom to change or add things in the future. BUT it also adds an extra risk, the MQTT broker is another part that can stop working.

Thank you for this excellent comparison. Regards from France.

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

*Merci* for your kind words!!!!

Been using deconz for years but last 2 HA updates have broken the sensors in deconz was looking for something else so may try ZHA great timing for this video thanks

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome

Nice comparison. 👍

Thanks for the overview. I also want to switch to Zigbee2MQTT from Descon.

I think "Installation" and "Coordinator support" should not be equally weighted as "Ease of use", "Documentation" and "OTA Updates" because you can simply choose a coordinator supported by all integrations and the installation is usually only done once so fiddling with a complicated installation process is only required once and there are plenty step by step tutorials like yours.

Thanks a lot for the video. Really interesting!

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome Enrico.

Awesome! Thanks for clarification these 3 ways for integrations zigbee devices in Home Assistant. I’m using deconz, but I will try switch to z2mqtt after your video.

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not really sure if you should do that. I did that and I must say that deCONZ is much more reliable than Zigbee2MQTT for a Conbee 2 stick. I suggest you use a new stick like the Sonoff stick to use Zigbee2MQTT and migrate gradually. This way, you can run them next to each other.

@mateusz-jagiello

2 жыл бұрын

@@SmartHomeJunkie whoa. That’s sound disturbingly. Could you tell me something more about this “less reliability” with Conbee 2 + Zigbe2MQTT? How it reveals? Devices sometimes do not respond or something?

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

@@mateusz-jagiello I plan to create a video for it... Indeed, devices do sometimes not respond.

@martijnvdd1983

Жыл бұрын

Hi. First of all thanks for the investigation and great video. I am running a conbee2 on Odroid and would like to migrate. Based on this possible issue do you recommens ZHA above Z2M? Stability is most important for me since more and more devices (especially Ikea lights) are depending on it. Thanks in advance!

@SmartHomeJunkie

Жыл бұрын

@@martijnvdd1983 This is timely. Watch my video this upcoming Sunday and decide after that!

Nice video, thanks for your work. I started my home assistant journey with a conbee II stick and zha. It was really easy to set up but the pairing was not very good and i got a device which was not supported. Soon i switched to z2mqtt and i took me quite some time to set up with a sonoff coordinator but after i got it going the pairing is much better. Also every device i have is supported. So i dont regret my decision to swap.

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

Very good!!!

@ungeekenmunich

2 жыл бұрын

Which sonoff coordinator are you using? Looking for an Ethernet based coordinator that is independent from HA

@rattiman

2 жыл бұрын

@@ungeekenmunich im using the Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle. I dont know if devices with your requirements exist.

Excellent comparison! Z2M seems great for tweakers, but for new users, simply plugging in a Zigbee coordinator causes it to be auto recognized in Home Assistant with the ZHA integration. It is the one that seems to be "supported" by HA the most. I just can't bring myself to switch away from it!

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

Totally understandable!

@EsotericArctos

Жыл бұрын

If it works with everything you have, stay with what you have. I moved from deConz to ZHA and honestly, it wasn't worth the work. Everything I had already worked in deConz and there was absolutely no difference in day to day performance for me.

Thanks for the great comparison video! A couple follow-up questions: 1) Related to your "stay live if HA down" point, is that capability only available if you have direct binding config'd for some devices? 2) When using ZHA, are you familiar with the issue where the zigbee devices occasionally display as unavailable and require re-pairing to resume functionality? I have no custom bindings in play, but given the unavailable issue is appearing more and more frequently I am thinking about switching to Z2M, even though I'll have to pick up a new coordinator.

Brilliant, was finally able to feel confident about making the move from Deconz to Zigbee2mqtt after watching the comparison and install of zigbee2mqtt on the previous video. Thanks for the insight and guidance.

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

Really glad to hear that it helped. Thank you for the kind words!

@NSHarrison

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Jim, what was your migration experience like?

@jimdavis3749

2 жыл бұрын

@@NSHarrison Switched over from Deconz, made a backup prior to switch. Switched over about a day, then switched back. Z2M logs looked fine but, had issues that I could'nt figure out. Certain things would not connect properly or connect and not have full functionallity. I am running HA on Home Assistant Blue, in the process when setting up the configuration for Z2M , the configuration following along in the video he entered server: mqtt://core-mosquito , I changed it to server://mqtt://ha.ip for mosquito and it worked. Deconz is not in the same realm as Z2M. (IMHO). So much more powerful and really assisted in trouble shooting issues with certain devices on the fringe of the network (weak zigbee signal). However, be advised you have to take time to play around in the interface. Ex: when adding a RGB light, although connected, you must go to expose and manually turn the light off/on to fully connect. Once you have Z2M up and running, you won't be disapointed.

many many thanks for providing useful info. : )

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

You're very welcome!

Perfect video, when I started with ZigBee I used Deconz because I have conbee 2 and the biggest issue I have with some Xiaomi devices which periodically loosing connection with the network and then in HA there is wrong information about device status so I spend a lot of the time creating health check methods using Deconz API to be able to diagnose the devices. I moved last time with Tuya devices to Tasmota devices and used tasmota2mqtt which works perfect so looks like that the next one will be ZigBee2mqtt 😎

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you and indeed, this seems to be the best choice for your 👍🏻

Very good video. Thanks. 👏

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you like it!

Ed's at it again: answering questions I always want to ask, but am not sure where to look! Using ZHA on my system, and I'm pretty happy about it. I was always questioning my choice of ZHA vs. Zigbee2MQQT because it seems the are more references to the latter in a lot of KZread tutorials. I think it may just be guys flexing their Nerd Muscles (looking at you, Dr. Zzzs and Rob at the Hook Up!! 😂🤣😂). Kidding, btw, those guys are awesome. Thanks again for doing the grunt-work so we can all build better!

@JohnVanderbeck

2 жыл бұрын

I feel like you need those tech muscles to be using HA in the first place so it isn't as big of a turn off in my mind.

Thank you!

Excellent video! Thanks. 🇧🇷

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

You are very welcome!

I swicthed from Mqtt to zha, lag and reliability was a problem with mqtt, I switched and had no more issues, though as a tinkerer it was easier to integrate nodejs routines via mqq than zha.

Very interesting. when I started my HA journey 3 years ago, I chose the Conbee II stick and DeConz, I think it might have been the only option available then. More recently for my Polytunnel HA instance I chose ZHA and I have been very happy with it., particularly the ability to pair devices using my mobile to onboard devices.. I have been thinking about moving to Zigbee2MQTT for my main Home instance but the migration process with over 50 devices has put me off. I think I need to just put aside a weekend and get on with it.

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

Well, if your setup works well why change it? 🙃 I am in the same ballpark at the moment. Have to migrate everything from deCONZ to Z2M. Need a day for this I guess. 🙄

@MAMDAVEM

2 жыл бұрын

@@SmartHomeJunkie Main reason is I want to install some Aqara E1 Roller Blinds and they are not supported by DeConz ... yet.

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

@@MAMDAVEM Ah yes, that's a very valid reason. You can also buy an extra Sonoff stick and use Z2M for that stick to bind the roller blinds... Might help in migrating a bit more smoothly too.

@wkearney99

2 жыл бұрын

@@MAMDAVEM that and it seems really clunky trying to add your own device type to deconz.

Ok, this was helpful! Now to figure out what Zigbee hub to purchase!

@SmartHomeJunkie

5 ай бұрын

I'd suggest the Sonoff Dongle-P

@brandonfertig

5 ай бұрын

@@SmartHomeJunkie too late! I went with the SkyConnect! Did I make a mistake?

Thanks!

thanks for this comparison video. Ive always been wondering what the benefits of each integration was and which one is best for me. I'm still relatively new (not a power user) so wasn't sure what I was doing when I was setting up my Zigbee devices. I have 2 set up using DeConz and a few set up using ZHA, but I think after watching this video I'll migrate my DeConz devices over the ZHA (maybe in the future I'll look more into Z2M but right now I just want something simple)

@SmartHomeJunkie

Жыл бұрын

Good choice!

I tested ZHA and Z2M. Main target was controllers for roller blinds. For such devices Z2M has far supperior support. Even thought ZHA does recoginize them, they always lacked functionality. But most importantly the great documentation on device support including for each devices the exposed functionality makes Z2M the winner for me.

@SmartHomeJunkie

Жыл бұрын

Z2M is very nice. It also depends on what stick you use. The SkyConnect us not supported fully by Z2M for example.

@walter--

Жыл бұрын

​@@SmartHomeJunkie On the Adapters I got lucky; I bought the first one from the ZHA list that I could find, and only after doing tests with ZHA and realizing Z2M might be an alternative I found out my Sonof dongle worked on both. On the other hand, the Skyconnect is listed as experimental for Z2M; maybe they are just more careful on Z2M side to call something 'working' ;-).

thx so much for the video :)

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome.

Great video comparison, particularly zha and mqtt. I am starting a home automation company and starting off with motorized window openers for automation. Wanted to reach out to you to talk about automation related to it. Thanks.

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. No problem. Just send me an e-mail. The e-mail address is in the description.

Thanks for doing the hard work so we don't have to! Great video.

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome. It was really hard work indeed. Took me a full week to create all 4 videos, but it's worth it! 💪🏻

@benqenobe

2 жыл бұрын

@@SmartHomeJunkie I've been using deconz for a while and have also been considering changing over to ZHA for a while too but always feared doing it and then regretting and having to go back. This has given me the confidence to take the plunge. :)

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

@@benqenobe so cool to hear that!

Consistency Hello there - thank you for your channel btw - I've subscribed! Though - I don want to ask you for advise - I've noticed that my EndPoint devices are sleeping and they dont come alive quickly enough. For example. I have an Aqara Door sensor - that's supposed to light up 2 bulbs when someone opens the door - except - it takes 2-3 sometimes 4+ to trigger the coordinator for the state change from true to false. I'm currently using Sonoff's ZBdongle-E flashed to Zigbee2MQTT coordinator. Do you think I will have a better result with ZHA? I've got a few repeaters throughout as well - Philips Hue, Ikea Bulbs - I just find the "sleeping" of an endpoint is battery saving - but also detrimental to consistency- is there a setting I need to change so it triggers to sleep less? Thanks as always.

I'm in the middle of the migration process from phoscon/deconz to ZHA. Why you may ask? * I bought some thermostats which are not working in deconz but have good support from ZHA. Over all I think there is a little more drive in de ZHA development (also there is struff like zha_quirks which help you to setup devices which are not fully supported yet) * the long time maintenence is WAY better in ZHA. If you're renaming or moving some entities in deconz sometimes the changes are not reflected back correctly into HA. Also the "Direct Binding" is not working in deconz/phoscon (at least I could not find a setting for this in my current installation)

Thanks for the video. I've tried my hand at all three. First deCONZ, then Zigbee2MQTT, then ZHA, then back to deCONZ. I started a fresh installation of HA on bare metal and this time installed Zigbee2MQTT. I found that some of the lights would be unresponsive at times, and other times I would have to re-pair the devices completely. Then ZHA would incorrectly configure my white temperature bulbs as RGB bulbs. So back to deCONZ where my bulbs are correctly configured and respond 99% of the time. I will certainly miss out on the power user abilities with Zigbee2MQTT, and the ease of integration with ZHA, but for me deCONZ is the one that works. I also don't need to do any fancy automations to utilise press and hold.

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

Definately a good choice if you use a Conbee stick 👍🏻

Good timing as I bought my conbee and was debating internally on this topic :). I'm interested in how you manage testing and multiple installs. You said fresh installs here. But do you ever have two HA's like "prod" and test. Or do you just rely on backups if you get into a weird state.

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

Thx. Yes, I do have a staging and a productionn server. But man, this was quite a ride to create. Took me a whole week to create all four videos with testing and all.

A bit different experience for me... I am using Sonoff Dongle-P with latest firmware, Based on Aqara H1, Z2M gave me far supperior control over the rocker switch. ZHA allowed: switching on/off one of the buttons, Z2M exposed much more fields and features: - like control over leds, - decouple/relay mode, - outage behaviour, etc. I know that there are some quirks for ZHA that give more control over switch, but in the end, for this one application Z2M gave me all of this out of the box, so even if setup was more difficult, it wins. As mentioned at the start, this is only based on Aqara H1 WS-EUK02, so far I am positively suprised, and soon I am going to test more of mine devices with Z2M, to check which of 2 suits me better.

@SmartHomeJunkie

7 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for sharing your experience! It's always helpful to hear about different platforms and their capabilities. I just switched back to Z2M after using ZHA for a year or so. And I moved back to the Sonoff Dongle-P as well. The Dongle-E was not so trustworthy for me using Z2M.

This is very insightfull. Thanks. I started my Home Assistant journey only a few weeks ago. I initially stumbled on your deCONZ video, so that was my initial setup. After viewing this video, I think I'm going to switch to ZHA. I'm only running a very limited amount of Zigbee devices at this time (so, only a limited amount of re-pairing). Do you have any advise on deinstalling deCONZ?

@SmartHomeJunkie

Жыл бұрын

You can just stop the deCONZ addon and stay using ZHA. In the end you can uninstall the add-on.

Hi, i'm a super fan of your video's and over the last few months I have learned a lot. I have setup a lot of Zigbee with ZHA and it work perfect. Now I came a cross a important issue. Security : This morning I was able to connect the Toothbrush of my neighbour .. Whaaaaah ?? This sounds funny, both I thought this can go both ways. So how to secure your Zigbee network. There are complex white papers on the net, but that too complex for me to translate this to my ZHA setup. Do you have tips for that ? Thnx in advance

Excellent comparison. Many thanks. BTW have you addressed the issue about migration? I’m considering migrating from Deconz to ZHA as all my devices are supported on both but the additional ZHA entities will be useful.

@fransdevries4085

Жыл бұрын

Also interested, currently ob Deconz but would like to move to ZHA, just add ZHA to Hass will do the trick?

ZHA was a breeze to setup. However, it wont show my Aqara RTCGQ15LM sensors properly, not even the occupancy is shown. Different story with Zigbee2MQTT, it has more steps but the device is working as intended.

Thanks for this. Good food for thought. So the question is, will you be switching from Deconz & if you do can you describe what the experience was like. Is there a device migration option or does every device need re-pairing?

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

I switched from deCONZ to Z2M after I created this video and will let you know in a month or so what my experience is. I had to re-pair all my devices.

Great comparison video. Have you considered revisiting this test since the latest July HA update?

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

Thx and no. I don't think it would be very different tbh.

EXACTLY what i was hoping for. :-) (sub earned) QUESTION: is it possible to use both parallel on the same HA instance? lets say i dont want to touch my ZHA, but one device doesnt work and i want to controll it with Zigbee2MQTT... I use ZHA for a few months now and was wondering if the others were even better. Thanks to your video i'm convinced that my current choice isnt that bad at all. Maybe if my HA will work way too good an i'll get bored, i will try out Zigbee2MQTT.

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

You can only use both versions when you have two zigbee sticks.

@sebastianschneider4345

2 жыл бұрын

@@SmartHomeJunkie thanks for the quick response. Ah I see, so that one controller is assigned in one zigbee software environment etc. Makes sense. Thx

Hello, could you please consider a tutorial on 'How to add device for Zigbee2MATT support'? That would be fantastic as many devices are supported but also many are not. Thank you for your consideration.

After very much troobleshooting and 5 🙄 Sonoff sticks E and P versions and installing and using z2m I can only say ok it has some advantages besides Deconz, but I was tired of spending everyday time on z2m when a device went offline without a reason, only cutting the breaker helped but this was not that I was looking for. Moved 2 days ago back to Deconz, and I must say I'd rather have no devices offline or troubleshooting like on z2m. I'll stick with Deconz for the time being. And I run a network with more than 112 devices. The system I have is a i5 dell server which is maybe overkill, but damn I like the speed in home assistant now 😁😁😁

Really good video, thanks a lot! Is it possible to use more than one system? What if I want to use devices that only is supported in Z2M but I dont want to move all my devices

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

You can only choose multiple systems if you have multiple zigbee sticks. You cannot bind one Zigbee stick to multiple systems at the same time unfortunately

@wizdude

2 жыл бұрын

This is the reason why I’m implementing zigbee2mqtt in my house. While ZHA is the new up and coming preferred option, it only supports a quarter of the devices that Z2M does. While many are “exotic”, some vendors like Philips Hue are only correctly supported in Z2M. Since I’m playing with many different sensors from different vendors I want to keep my options open. Also not sure if the network map for ZHA has been fixed up yet. Last I used it some time ago you needed to add in additional bits to produce a Zigbee network map. In Z2M it’s an inbuilt feature. Use the blakadder zigbee database to check your devices first just in case you have sometime weird only supported by one specific integration. Cheers.

Interesting video, thanks for sharing. if I may be a bit critical, I would have love to see some deeper comparison on stability. Specs like supported hardware can be quick scanned looking at their website, but experience feedback on connectivity lost, delay would be really appreciated because it is hard to sense it without running it for at least a month. I am Deconz user, I need to re-pair once a month some Xiaomi sensors but I do not know if the change would help for exemple.

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

Yup. I guess you can try this yourself now the installation videos are there 😉. I came from deCONZ too and moved to Z2M yesterday. It's quite a challenge to get all the triggers visible in HA. Z2M supports the most devices, but not all functions are always visible. Connection speed is swift. I might create a video in about a month or so to tell what my experience is in the long run.

@MrToup

2 жыл бұрын

@@SmartHomeJunkie thanks ☺️ a lot. I would love that.

Excellent work, thank you very much. I have a question: Is it possible to use ZHA in parallel on Home Assistant (with zigbee key) and Tuya App (with tuya gateway)?

@SmartHomeJunkie

Жыл бұрын

I think so yes. Never tried it though.

biggest issue i see with ZHA is that you are locked into HomeAssistant.. i'd rather stick to Z2M as then i can stick to using Nodered or if i want move to HA or use Both.. bought a Conbee stick but big mistake wasted hours trying to get it to work.. then tried the Sonoff stick and was up and running in Mins.

I'm a HA newbie but if I want to add Ikea Tradfri devices to HA would I use the Ikea HA integration or one of these coordinators? What are the pros and cons of either approach? Hope this question makes sense. Great video by the way, thanks!

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

You can also use the Ikea HA integration together with the Ikea hub. If you want to use multiple brands at the same time, a Zigbee dongle makes more sense.

I just now realized you say 3 T’s in mqtt. Now I can’t unhear it.

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

Really? I'm so not aware of that :D

how to add pir sensor in local tuya

what about visualising the ZigBee mesh network and doing tweaks directly to the device? Z2Mqtt and ZHA have this feature?

@SmartHomeJunkie

Жыл бұрын

Visualizing yes. Z2M had more/easier tweaking features.

Great Video, I have not tried zigbee2mqtt been running ZHA for a long time now, and before I was using deconz. Been thinking of it many times to give z2m a try, and I think I'm going to give it a try now. Two things though. If you run zigbee2mqtt and mosquitto as an addon in Home Assistant OS. Will it not stop working if Home Assistant has a problem or is rebooting? Another advantgage of zigbee2mqtt is if you use something else that can talk mqtt, like Node Red, then you can interact directly with the devices independent of Home Assistant.

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

I believe it won't stop working of you bind devices

@manuelthallinger7297

Жыл бұрын

Video is now marked as private

Hi, i have to point out that z2m does have more entities than zha without a doubt.for pretty much all the devices. In many cases the entities are hidden or disabled which needs to be manually enabled. Donno if uve checked that one out.

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I did and Z2M does seem to support more entities overall, but for some I found that ZHA supported more. This of course constantly changes, so results may vary. I moved over to Zigbee2MQTT now too. I am not entirely sure if this was the best move, but so far it works. I do sometimes lose connection where I did not loise connection that often with deCONZ.

Your videos are awesome, I have mqtt for some devices and i'm buying a sonoff zigbee coodinator, do you think i will have problems with my current mqtt devices if i go with zigbee2mqtt? zha looks easy but i think it works best with main brand devices, i'm buying some cheap stuff on aliexpress so i'm worried it will not work with zha since i can't even find brand names haha. Help

@SmartHomeJunkie

Жыл бұрын

ZHA is easiest and sports a lot of devices too. You can also buy two sticks and run one with ZHA and one with Zigbee2MQTT to see what works best for you. Afterwards you can flash one of the two sticks to function as a repeater.

Hi Does it possible to have on the same installation home assistant : ZHA with coordinator (for example gateway under IP for me Lidl silvercrest hacked...) with zigbee A B and C Zigbee2Mqtt with coordinator ( for example dongle sonoff usb) with zigbee D E and F ? Thanks

@SmartHomeJunkie

Жыл бұрын

Yes you can add long as you have multiple coordinaters/hubs.

Really nice! What about the reaction time of the different systems? I’m now using deconz, but some lights are not responding sometimes. Also there is a slight delay when I power them on or off. I’m just curious if you experienced some differences

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

I didn't experience any difference, but it was in a test environment, so not all my devices were connected.

@byrongamatos7189

2 жыл бұрын

I have the same issue with zha, sometimes some lights take more than 10 seconds after I have used the switch

@JohnVanderbeck

2 жыл бұрын

Been using deConz for about a week now and noticed that things like lights are responsive but things like sensors sometimes don't update for hours. Not sure if this is the sensor of the integration but I am considering trying another one to see if it makes a difference.

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnVanderbeck It might be that your sensors are not close enough to router devices like lightbulbs. Maybe you can experiment with that too.

@JohnVanderbeck

2 жыл бұрын

@@SmartHomeJunkie Actually it is in the same room as a lightbulb on the network and has a very high signal quality (supposedly under 20 is bad, it is current 183). Testing it out in Zigbee2MQTT now and I really think its just the sensor and it got detected but been 10 minutes and it still hasn't sent any data yet

Really good comparison but one important thing you forgot: ZHA does not support ZGP which is really annoying because due to this there is no support for e.g. Senic FoH switches.

@EsotericArctos

Жыл бұрын

deCONZ is probably slowest at getting device handlers. You just go on what integration supports what you use. ZHA usually gets everything that is in zb2mqtt, but sometimes it takes a bit longer than zb2mqtt. As a note, it was mentioned that ZHA does not support every device in the video. To be honest, I actually have not heard of ZGP devices where I am.

@Friedi

Жыл бұрын

@@EsotericArctos nope, I just go on devices I‘d like to use and the Senic switches are great! When you never heard about ZGP devices, you should inform yourself; the technique is really great. By the way the missing ZGP support is claimed really often.

Home Assistant updates play a lot of uncertainties. Suddenly I also experienced the greatest things where the Aquara button not only opened the garage door but also the light in the garden and the decorative lighting in the living room. Wiso no idea, there is no coherent automation. Even uninstalling and reinstalling didn't work. DeconPhoscon is unfortunately only great on the hardware side... A change becomes sporty with so many devices and two apps at the same time to make a flying change is not possible, is it? I don't want Zigbee tomqtt. I've always had problems with mqtt, if this link has problems, nothing works anymore.

Thanks for the nice review Ed! One small note; the statement you make on 11:30 is not true. When a remote is directly bound to a light it will always respond (even when the coordinator is down).

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Koen, as far as I understood from the HA developers themselves, this is not true for ZHA. If HA gets rebooted, then the connection between devices gets lost if you use ZHA according to them. Even when they are binded. I did not test it myself, but got this info straight from one of the core developers, so I guess they know best. 🤷🏼

@KarstenLey

2 жыл бұрын

@@SmartHomeJunkie Hi SHJunkie, thanks for your nice videos - they are great. Regarding this point, it's very confusing for me and i would be happy if you could explain what reconnect means. If I reboot my HA with ZHA, the most devices can still be controlled. Some are lost and need a new configuration :( . So does your statement describe this behavior - or does it only mean, that a connection between two devices is lost like a direct bound remote to a light - which could lead to a dead mehs network?

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

@@KarstenLey Hi Karsten, as far as I got informed by one of the core developers of Home Assistant, the binded connections between devices gets lost if HA is down in case you use ZHA. I did not test this myself though. If you use Z2M or deCONZ, the connection should stay alive because they run in different containers than HA.

Another question regarding use when HA is down. If MQTT broker is on HA, doesn't Z2M also go down when HA is down? In your case, do you use an MQTT broker external to HA?

@SmartHomeJunkie

10 ай бұрын

You are correct. I use the MQTT broker in HA myself. You can also bind your lightbulbs to switches and motion sensors within Z2M itself, so that you don't need to have a MQTT broker.

Hi, I'm a new user of home assistant and zigbee. Im trying to create a custom sensor that will be controlled (switch) and acquire (power meter) via zigbee. I already bought the sonoff usb dongle 3.0 and xbee3 of sparkfun and its on the way. Now based on this video comparison there is more technical possibilities to do this on zigbee2mqtt? or just the same with ZHA? TIA

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

Both should be able to return the power metering options. Z2M can be tweaked more in its UI, but is also harder to set up.

@ghilcacho5617

2 жыл бұрын

@@SmartHomeJunkie Thank you for fast response! I'll continue with ZHA and micropython on xbee3.

I went ZHA because having to logon to deConz just felt tedious after a while. Why go through a mediator when I could do it all in HA? Never looked back.

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

Good choice!

Hello Ed… I got the Aqara motion sensor and instead of using their hub I got the sonoff dongle. The integration used was the ZHA. This works perfect with my other motion sensors, but with the Aqara motion sensor (p1) did not work properly. It did find it in the integration process but It could only detect 2 entities, none of these entities were to sense motion. So I have not be able to use the Aqara motion sensor. Is the P1 Aqara motion sensor not supported by ZHA ? do you have any input ? I was disappointed that the P1 did not work properly vs the other motion sensors in my case and I am not sure if it is particular to me OR if there is a general issue

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

I don't know because I do not have a p1 (yet), but you can check it on the Blakadder site.

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

See here: zigbee.blakadder.com/Aqara_RTCGQ14LM.html

@miguelavello7493

2 жыл бұрын

@@SmartHomeJunkie Ed .. THANK YOU for your quick reply. You are awesome and I am totally subscribing to you. Thanks

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

@@miguelavello7493 Thank you Miguel 🙏🏻

i tried all 3 before settling on z2m ...took 1 year LOL

Is it possible to have both ZHA and Z2M in your HA with a single coordinator?

@SmartHomeJunkie

10 ай бұрын

No

hi i some normal zigbee spotlights and i want to get a zigbee usb dongle as i want to have some aqara switches to work with them as if i buy the hub, my normal zigbee lights wont work with them. can u please suggest me a cheap usb that supports aqara. i live in uk and have attic so i need good range. let me knw anyone with ideas. also just started to use home assistant and im new to it but im pretty sure its all working.

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

The Sonoff Zigbee 3 USB stick covers this with ZHA and Z2M.

@Marwaan12

2 жыл бұрын

@@SmartHomeJunkie thanks

I've switched from zigbee2mqtt to a ZHA stick directly connected to the HA server, and setup + management is now much simpler. Zigbee2mqtt quickly becomes a mess with devices that don't exist anymore or mqtt message badly supported by HA

@Spractral

4 ай бұрын

What do you mean?

@Spractral

4 ай бұрын

Zha "stick" plugged directly into HA server?

Could you explain how the OTA updates works in ZHA, where can I find that option ?

@SmartHomeJunkie

Жыл бұрын

I'm still looking into this tbh. Will create a video about it one day.

@christian1603

Жыл бұрын

@@SmartHomeJunkie You gave 4 stars to OTA updates so I was very hopeful 🤗 It would be great if you could figure that out !

@SmartHomeJunkie

Жыл бұрын

@@christian1603 It's definately possible, but just not as easy as in Zigbee2MQTT. I will come back on this.

Is it possible to use ZHA in Node-Red also? This is why i consider Z2MQTT right now...?!

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

I do not use Node Red, but I believe Node Red works with the entities of HA, so I expect this to work.

@X1pheR01

2 жыл бұрын

Yes it works

Since you're using deConz and you ranked it lowest, will you be switching to ZHA or Z2M?

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

Definately!!! Wil have to plan this though 🙄 Not really looking forward to it. 😂😂😂

@Broekie1983

2 жыл бұрын

@@SmartHomeJunkie Will you make a video on how to switch from deConz to Z2M? ;)

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

@@Broekie1983 Uhhhhhh.... 🤪

@jacodejong1982

2 жыл бұрын

Did you already choose the interface you will be moving to? What will it be?

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

@@jacodejong1982 I think I will go for Z2M, but it is a difficult choice, especially with the new updater in HA that supports updating the firmware of devices too now. I guess ZHA is keeping up better and better with Z2M.

I never understood ZigBee2MQTT don't know where to start and how it works

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

Watch my Zigbee2MQTT video for this. Set Up Zigbee2MQTT in Home Assistant - TUTORIAL kzread.info/dash/bejne/i2qFtsaSoZXeds4.html

edit: posted comment to the wrong video lol

@SmartHomeJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

😂