It's a stylized form called ditang chuan and is, for all intents and purposes, ground fighting and tumbling. But not ground fighting in the popular sense of ground grappling - like BJJ, judo newaza, wrestling,... It's about using unorthodox offensive sweeps, kicks, tumbling and "sacrifice" movements but also the ability to breakfall defensively. Again, this is sport wushu so it's highly stylized and not meant to be a 1:1 real representation the combat form or subdiscipline on which it is based. I may be wrong but I do not believe there is a traditional kung fu style that exclusively uses such techniques called "ditang". Ground techniques - often utilized when an opponent falls or is knocked down - are a subdiscipline or techniques in many martial arts styles. In fact, one of the arguments I make about the benefits of BJJ, even if you do not want to take someone to the ground in a self-defence situation, is "what are YOU going to do if someone ELSE takes YOU to the ground?" You better know how to breakfall on pavement if you're thrown by a guy the size of a gorilla, and how to do upkicks, or scramble and shrimp to a defensive stand up. Therefore, I believe (and again I could be mistaken), this wushu freestyle form called ditang chuan is more meant to be an amalgamation and representation - albeit highly embellished and stylized like most wushu forms - of ground techniques found in many traditional Chinese systems both striking and wrestling. In a more practical sense in a real application it would be things like the kneeling back heel sweeps found in traditional kung fu, karate, and hapkido, or illegal kani gasami move in judo, rolling knee bar in BJJ. upkicks in MMA, and I would even say a De La Riva sweep in BJJ would be in the spirit of ditang chuan. The performer is actually "borrowing" the movements of a famous form done by a legendary wushu competitor named Zhao Chan Jun.
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@@assoverteakettle Correct, modern Wushu Ditangquan isn’t even a real style, at least not by traditional Chinese martial arts standards. Due to the loss, or rather, lack of access to knowledge of traditional Ditangquan, the competition event was invented by either Wushu legend and champion Zhao Changjun based on the late Wushu Grandmaster Pan Qingfu's advise to change his style after Zhao was cut from the 1974 Beijing Wushu Team White House Tour, or Niu Huailu, and based off of drunken style. Essentially, modern Wushu Ditangquan is nothing more than a combination of tumbling jumps and a couple Changquan movements thrown together, and is just a venue for athletes who are good at jumping to show off their ups. But even during the time of its inception, performances such as these by old school champions like Zhao Changjun or Yuan Wenqing here at least had some movements that were performed on the ground. Nowadays, all the more recent ditangquan performances I’ve seen by modern Wushu athletes today consist almost completely of just running and jumping. Traditional versions of Ditangquan do apparently exist though: kzread.info/dash/bejne/i6mnlNNrcbmeeLw.html
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@assoverteakettle
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It's a stylized form called ditang chuan and is, for all intents and purposes, ground fighting and tumbling. But not ground fighting in the popular sense of ground grappling - like BJJ, judo newaza, wrestling,... It's about using unorthodox offensive sweeps, kicks, tumbling and "sacrifice" movements but also the ability to breakfall defensively. Again, this is sport wushu so it's highly stylized and not meant to be a 1:1 real representation the combat form or subdiscipline on which it is based. I may be wrong but I do not believe there is a traditional kung fu style that exclusively uses such techniques called "ditang". Ground techniques - often utilized when an opponent falls or is knocked down - are a subdiscipline or techniques in many martial arts styles. In fact, one of the arguments I make about the benefits of BJJ, even if you do not want to take someone to the ground in a self-defence situation, is "what are YOU going to do if someone ELSE takes YOU to the ground?" You better know how to breakfall on pavement if you're thrown by a guy the size of a gorilla, and how to do upkicks, or scramble and shrimp to a defensive stand up. Therefore, I believe (and again I could be mistaken), this wushu freestyle form called ditang chuan is more meant to be an amalgamation and representation - albeit highly embellished and stylized like most wushu forms - of ground techniques found in many traditional Chinese systems both striking and wrestling. In a more practical sense in a real application it would be things like the kneeling back heel sweeps found in traditional kung fu, karate, and hapkido, or illegal kani gasami move in judo, rolling knee bar in BJJ. upkicks in MMA, and I would even say a De La Riva sweep in BJJ would be in the spirit of ditang chuan. The performer is actually "borrowing" the movements of a famous form done by a legendary wushu competitor named Zhao Chan Jun.
@NexusJunisBlue
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@@assoverteakettle Correct, modern Wushu Ditangquan isn’t even a real style, at least not by traditional Chinese martial arts standards. Due to the loss, or rather, lack of access to knowledge of traditional Ditangquan, the competition event was invented by either Wushu legend and champion Zhao Changjun based on the late Wushu Grandmaster Pan Qingfu's advise to change his style after Zhao was cut from the 1974 Beijing Wushu Team White House Tour, or Niu Huailu, and based off of drunken style. Essentially, modern Wushu Ditangquan is nothing more than a combination of tumbling jumps and a couple Changquan movements thrown together, and is just a venue for athletes who are good at jumping to show off their ups. But even during the time of its inception, performances such as these by old school champions like Zhao Changjun or Yuan Wenqing here at least had some movements that were performed on the ground. Nowadays, all the more recent ditangquan performances I’ve seen by modern Wushu athletes today consist almost completely of just running and jumping. Traditional versions of Ditangquan do apparently exist though: kzread.info/dash/bejne/i6mnlNNrcbmeeLw.html