Zeroes and Ones: Into the Depths of Computation | Jim Keller | EP 272

James B. Keller is a microprocessor engineer best known for his work at AMD and Apple. He was the lead architect of the AMD K8 microarchitecture and was involved in designing the Athlon and Apple A4/A5 processors.
Jim joins Dr Jordan B Peterson to give us a look behind the scenes at Apple, Tesla, and AMD, and explain the inner workings of your everyday computer.
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  • @JordanBPeterson
    @JordanBPeterson Жыл бұрын

    You're welcome to subscribe to my clips channel for additional content: kzread.info

  • @FredZiegler63

    @FredZiegler63

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you - I have subscribed.

  • @thejade1138

    @thejade1138

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Jordan! You straight-up 100, bro.

  • @federerfanatic

    @federerfanatic

    Жыл бұрын

    Interview The Critical Drinker, aka Will Jordan.

  • @cristianmicu

    @cristianmicu

    Жыл бұрын

    i understand that the interview has to have a structure, but im pissed at jp for stopping jim keller in his responses

  • @topdog5252

    @topdog5252

    Жыл бұрын

    Damn you’re looking good JP.

  • @wilkersonspecial
    @wilkersonspecial Жыл бұрын

    I about had a heart attack when I learned that Jim Keller was my man Jordan Peterson’s brother-in-law… these are the greatest minds in our time.. 100 years form now these guy’s will be remembered as great men..

  • @Chordonblue

    @Chordonblue

    Жыл бұрын

    Just unreal! Two of my favorite people in ONE podcast and they are related?! 😯 Did. Not. Know!

  • @LockeLeon

    @LockeLeon

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree. It made me thought I was living in a simulation

  • @thedicklexic2622

    @thedicklexic2622

    Жыл бұрын

    I hope it's sooner than that,I might not be here.🤣👍☯️

  • @ChicCanyon

    @ChicCanyon

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sinsemilla9876 probably the worst outlook on humanity ive ever seen."lets wait. They still might fail later."

  • @jcarlosperezgmail

    @jcarlosperezgmail

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, imagine what are the odds for that.

  • @Spright91
    @Spright91 Жыл бұрын

    This guy is a legend. Hes the reason AMD is dominant now. He created the beginning of what became Apples M1 chips too. If you want to know what stocks to buy pay attention to who hires Jim. The dude helped develop x86 and is now developing the future of the next thing in CPU tech RISC-V focused on machine learning and efficiency. He's literally one of the most revolutionary figures of our time.

  • @k4piii

    @k4piii

    Жыл бұрын

    Do you have any sources?

  • @youtubered646videos7

    @youtubered646videos7

    Жыл бұрын

    @@k4piii sounds pretty easy to Google tbh

  • @BradHines

    @BradHines

    Жыл бұрын

    probably c3ai

  • @suedenim5821

    @suedenim5821

    Жыл бұрын

    Like you knew who he was or thought about him in any way, shape or form before today 😏

  • @Spright91

    @Spright91

    Жыл бұрын

    @@suedenim5821 I knew about him because of AMDs Zen processors which I was reading about in 2016. Because it was interesting that AMD was taking its edge back. Not because of this. Don't assume.

  • @Brittanyem
    @Brittanyem Жыл бұрын

    "If you admit you're stupid, sometimes you don't have to stay that way." Lesson of the day.. or a lifetime 👌

  • @nyranstanton203

    @nyranstanton203

    Жыл бұрын

    maybe....lol...it takes years to learn what this guy taught in this small technological lecture with peterson , i dont believe everyone has the brain capacity to understand all that stuff he was talking about in its minute detail. Not eveyrone has a technical mind to even comprehend half the stuff he was saying, theres complex math in there ontop of that, measurements and he even said hteres things that wold be to complex to really explain simply lol. Like he made computing sound probably more complex than it even is. He really neded to start with electricity going from the power point to the power supply and how that electricity powers all the bits of a computer, how it travels along a motherboard and then go from there. What he explained is probably 2-5 year degree compressed into a Peterson sound bite. He probably should of started off with the power, then motherboard and how information travels through that, then harddrives for storage, then ram then the CPU that processes all the information. I think he almost made it sound more complicated than it is lol

  • @Brittanyem

    @Brittanyem

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nyranstanton203 he's an absolute beast, my comment was about learning the true nature of humility as pride made me stupid in the past. I guess stupid is a spectrum, but not pretending to be smart is a good starting place.

  • @nyranstanton203

    @nyranstanton203

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Brittanyem most people( i barely grasped how he was explaining it, he almost made it sound to complex, thats another skill, to be able to explain something extremely complicated and make it sound simple , when its not) wouldnt even be able to comprehend what hes even saying and it would literally sound like jibberish.

  • @Brittanyem

    @Brittanyem

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nyranstanton203 I believe nondualistic thinking is a skill that not everyone has developed. And then beyond that, he uses endless reference points to weave his points together, it's really remarkable.

  • @beamer_born8337
    @beamer_born8337 Жыл бұрын

    keller is a legend in the computation and chip world, what were the odds that he and jbp are related

  • @kubrickenigma7977

    @kubrickenigma7977

    Жыл бұрын

    It's genuinely incredible. It must be God's work.

  • @ProSoom

    @ProSoom

    Жыл бұрын

    🤯

  • @Mateus01234

    @Mateus01234

    Жыл бұрын

    ikr? I was shocked

  • @elektrotehnik94

    @elektrotehnik94

    Жыл бұрын

    Brilliant minds allign; it’s often the way of the world

  • @jj74qformerlyjailbreak3

    @jj74qformerlyjailbreak3

    Жыл бұрын

    I’ say the odds are, as good a Mason’s odds get. That being said. Jordan is a rare breed. Very few speak against thing’s that oath creates. The punishment is death. Now you might see why, Peterson is valued by the herd, and hated by chattel. He has the power to uproot the whole SS. “Shit Show” I’m personally still pondering motive here. Calculated, or honest attempt at redemption? The left hasn’t showed me anything I don’t like in the man. God Bless.

  • @johnh1353
    @johnh1353 Жыл бұрын

    As a software developer I was giddy when I saw this interview pop up .... I've been following Jim's career for the past 15-20 years and he's been part of some brilliant innovations

  • @Tenebrousable

    @Tenebrousable

    Жыл бұрын

    Did you know he is friends and family with Peterson? I seem to remember Peterson sometimes talking about his computer engineer friend. But seems like him beign Keller is quite a surprise. Like, one of the very very few THE computer engineers today, the AMD Athlon guy, processor that made the 2nd of 2 central processor companies in the the history of the solar system, is married to Jordan Peterson family. Completly bananas, seems to me.

  • @pw1169

    @pw1169

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Tenebrousable The smart getting smarter!

  • @Mateus01234

    @Mateus01234

    Жыл бұрын

    That was a real surprise for me to know that he is part of his family!

  • @themaskedman9250

    @themaskedman9250

    Күн бұрын

    following? so like stalking?

  • @Jbridge621
    @Jbridge621 Жыл бұрын

    Goodness I was discussing this very thing this morning With my daughter. Reminding her that staying on a doomed path is a choice and worrying about what might happen was a waste of time because any action was better than guaranteed failure

  • @LoneCloudHopper

    @LoneCloudHopper

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly. Logic and basic deduction. The war isn't over until we surrender.

  • @manditerrell224

    @manditerrell224

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes yes yes. I’d have loved to have been told that when I was younger. Though some of us are very stubborn and we think we can avoid failure 🙏

  • @garywhitt98

    @garywhitt98

    Жыл бұрын

    Unless your change results in a failure with even greater negative consequences.

  • @russberry3240

    @russberry3240

    Жыл бұрын

    Tell her that mights 😊live in chicken houses.

  • @protonjones54

    @protonjones54

    Жыл бұрын

    That's a good lesson to remember

  • @roblastem2905
    @roblastem2905 Жыл бұрын

    As an electrical engineer of 15+ years, I think this was one of the most fascinating talks Jordan has done. I’ve written a lot of firmware code over the years for various microprocessors/microcontrollers, and it’s pretty cool to know that Jim is at least partially responsible for how these x86 derivatives operate.

  • @kippers12isOG

    @kippers12isOG

    Жыл бұрын

    Check out lex Friedman’s podcasts with Keller. That stuff is like crack if you’re into Computers like this

  • @seekrengr751
    @seekrengr751 Жыл бұрын

    As a retired engineer (defense, not commercial), I was overwhelmed by a tsunami of deja vu for so many of Jim's insights, having experienced so many of the situations he describes. In many large companies captured by bureaucracy it is VERY difficult to weed out deadwood, especially as a direct team lead which I was several times. When you rated someone subpar, sometimes they reacted like you had run over their dog. Higher management MUST back up team leads in such a situation, which sadly they often do not. I would have LOVED to work for Jim, as many of the functional and project management I worked for were technically clueless. When this is the case, an enormous amount of time and effort is spent communicating not only with customers, but even more with layers of clueless management. Only in the defense industry is this possible, because time wasted thereby would have bankrupted most commercial endeavors. There were numerous exceptions to this, and working on those projects was so enjoyable it felt like a real letdown when the programs successfully concluded. Just as Jim related.

  • @protonjones54

    @protonjones54

    Жыл бұрын

    I swear if ww3 ever gets started it won't be a matter of who's got the best weapons, it'll be like who's government is more incompetent

  • @michaelowens5394

    @michaelowens5394

    Жыл бұрын

    You would have loved to work for Jim...until he fired you? :-)

  • @nachonachoman

    @nachonachoman

    11 ай бұрын

    I think that's the familiar narrative: engineers vs management bureaucracy. But his point was that engineers are bureaucratic in their own way too. And rightfully so because you've spent time investing in technical processes, technologies, and designs. But we may have been building towards the wrong thing. I worked at both apple and Tesla and his description is both true and insightful. The only force that can conteract aggregate move to order is the CEO and jobs and musk are famously chaotic. Jim too evidently but at a smaller amplitude. But he saw the need. I am only seeing it now fully

  • @itsmy17
    @itsmy17 Жыл бұрын

    Hands down, one of the best interviews that Dr. Peterson has done so far.

  • @nikola5868

    @nikola5868

    Жыл бұрын

    Except for the terrible audio

  • @goawqebt6931

    @goawqebt6931

    Жыл бұрын

    Nah

  • @TheREALMattGeorge

    @TheREALMattGeorge

    Жыл бұрын

    agreed on the audio problem ... hard to understand Jim a few times there. No excuses this far into his podcasting.

  • @philanthropicnightmare1206

    @philanthropicnightmare1206

    Жыл бұрын

    Daily Wire should give Peterson the funds to provide an incentive for guests to appear in person.

  • @bcagz9835

    @bcagz9835

    Жыл бұрын

    Geesh… people just can’t help themselves but to complain

  • @myselfremade
    @myselfremade Жыл бұрын

    THIS IS THE PODCAST I DIDN'T KNOW I NEEDED. JIM IS A LEGEND

  • @keithsmith5267

    @keithsmith5267

    Жыл бұрын

    Andrew, have you given thought to how easily you could have known this, even at an elementary age? Does this not seem more important to recognize?

  • @myselfremade

    @myselfremade

    Жыл бұрын

    @@keithsmith5267 pardon?

  • @keithsmith5267

    @keithsmith5267

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@myselfremade Andrew, my apologies if I misunderstood the context of your reply. It seemed you were saying that you did not have the understanding of how computation is done on modern computers, and that it may be perceived as something very technical and complex to understand the basic concepts of how this works. Or perhaps this was in response to the interpersonal/managerial insights that Jim gave that your were referring too, which I think in the US we don't do a good job of teaching the significance of and how to properly interact upon. Once again sorry if I misinterpreted the context of your comment. Respectfully, Keith

  • @myselfremade

    @myselfremade

    Жыл бұрын

    @@keithsmith5267 I recently watched an interview with Jim Keller on Dr Ian Cuttres' KZread channel. "tech tech potato" it was excellent, and very revealing about just how talented and well read Jim is. Never in my wildest dreams did I imagine he would be Dr Peterson's brother- in- law. Or that we would get a Peterson -Keller crossover. Jim has a lot of wisdom, and I'm glad he's beginning to share it with the general public

  • @Retr0Kid
    @Retr0Kid Жыл бұрын

    Computer science and Dr. Peterson? Am I in heaven?😂🙌

  • @modernexistence4206

    @modernexistence4206

    Жыл бұрын

    😹😹😹 same

  • @mapesdhs597

    @mapesdhs597

    Жыл бұрын

    @@modernexistence4206 If so, then Christopher Hitchens is probably watching aswell. :)

  • @glebshevtsov
    @glebshevtsov Жыл бұрын

    Immediate like for Jim Keller! Extremely inspirational dude and no bs professional

  • @haroldfarquad6886

    @haroldfarquad6886

    Жыл бұрын

    He really is. As genius as he is, he has a very direct way of speaking that us normies can process easily. He doesn't speak on some esoteric level trying to sound smart, he just really wants people to understand what he's saying.

  • @matthewcerini699
    @matthewcerini699 Жыл бұрын

    In a long career as a software engineer turned technical manager, I connected with this interview in so many ways. I relived my own personal experiences listening to Mr. Keller. I felt his frustration with all of the BS he had to cut through to deliver on his goals, but I supposed his story is more common than I had imagined. I too worked with teams of people much smarter than me and the only thing I had was my integrity and philosophy from my sports captain days - to galvanize the team, using each player in the right role to win the big game against our fiercest competition and to deliver a product that I would personally use. I was myself. I went with what I knew well and it seemed to fit. My teams bought in and to my surprise let me lead. And we were very successful. It was the hardest, but most rewarding experience of my life. Thanks for this interview.

  • @imageisn0thing

    @imageisn0thing

    Жыл бұрын

    As a former tech employee I've witnessed so much bad management due to the promotion of engineers to be people managers. Just because they're smart and good IC's doesn't mean they can manage people. Having a sports background is way more valuable to managing a team successfully than engineering knowledge.

  • @rktsnail

    @rktsnail

    Ай бұрын

    That’s awesome

  • @Jake90059
    @Jake90059 Жыл бұрын

    I’m only 21, what business do I have listening to 2 grey haired men discuss computing?…. Chasing knowledge from people with 30+ years more knowledge than I, is priceless & I love each & every one of these random 2+ hour podcasts where I’m just soaking in information. I know I’ll come back to this video months later & I’ll discover things I missed in this one & change my form of reference. Thank you both so much For this

  • @deltax7159

    @deltax7159

    Ай бұрын

    The fact that at your age you recognize this tells me you will achieve great success as long as you can implement what you learn and be a person of action. Good for you man.

  • @viscache1
    @viscache1 Жыл бұрын

    I was a physicist. We dreamed of things that might be possible given the right conditions and we witnessed miracles we scant understood. Engineers made our most impobable dreams come true!

  • @topdog5252

    @topdog5252

    Жыл бұрын

    Precisely. Arthur C Clarke’s 3rd law: any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

  • @ns88ster

    @ns88ster

    Жыл бұрын

    @@topdog5252 So you're saying magic exists?? That explains a lot...

  • @Hugh_Seaton
    @Hugh_Seaton Жыл бұрын

    I can't believe Dr. Peterson has Jim Keller on! One of the clearest thinkers discussing life with one of the bravest. Fantastic. For anyone that enjoyed this, check out Jim Keller on Lex Fridman's podcast - so good.

  • @JohnDoe-nq5pk

    @JohnDoe-nq5pk

    Жыл бұрын

    Peterson and Keller are related ;)

  • @pricardo333

    @pricardo333

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JohnDoe-nq5pk not exactly.. Keller is Peterson's brother in-law. not what I'd define as 'related'

  • @rhondaallan4680

    @rhondaallan4680

    Жыл бұрын

    @@pricardo333 Yes, he mayn't be his blood relation, but he is related to JP through his marriage to JP's sister. I'd hate to be in your family

  • @metalted6128

    @metalted6128

    Жыл бұрын

    @@pricardo333 related by law, YES, by blood No! So that means yes they are related.

  • @danielogega
    @danielogega Жыл бұрын

    In a peculiar twist of space time in our simulation, Jim is also a brother-in-law of Jordan Peterson.

  • @pomtubes1205

    @pomtubes1205

    Жыл бұрын

    Veneficia

  • @jeffteza8644
    @jeffteza8644 Жыл бұрын

    Jim holds a special place in my heart since I started designing microprocessors for TI in the late 70's and was in the semiconductor world for 30 years. I could relate so much to this interview since I also moved from engineering to management but veered into marketing, and general management. Jim imparts lots of wisdom on managing managers in a fast technical environment. Thanks for the interview Jordan!

  • @abstractapproach634

    @abstractapproach634

    Жыл бұрын

    I love my TI Nspire, the 84 was OK for a while too

  • @verigone2677
    @verigone2677 Жыл бұрын

    Digital failed because their equipment was way too expensive and they didn't have anything on the consumer market to sustain their development cycle. Nothing was better than their equipment and there are tons of it that is still in service through using what was left over after the failure. I met Jim at a conference in the mid 2000s and learned how similar our learning and problem solving methodology are; it wasn't long after that my career trajectory took an unexpected turn and I used that conversation to turn my life into something completely different. Truly inspiring, natural leader.

  • @geoffas

    @geoffas

    Жыл бұрын

    The MicroVAX was a great little computer for business applications. Like almost all the manufacturers of large computers, DEC got side-swiped by the PC revolution which allowed hobbyists to unleash their imagination & creativity (e.g. graphics).

  • @AadityaMone
    @AadityaMone Жыл бұрын

    These are the videos and interviews that I am most excited for, where we have the privilege of seeing someone very knowledgeable in their field of expertise condense down decades of experience into a 1-2 hour conversation. Liquid gold.

  • @goawqebt6931

    @goawqebt6931

    Жыл бұрын

    Why is it liquid?

  • @shadrackman1234

    @shadrackman1234

    Жыл бұрын

    @@goawqebt6931 a solid gold nugget?

  • @goawqebt6931

    @goawqebt6931

    Жыл бұрын

    @@shadrackman1234 it can be just gold

  • @metalted6128

    @metalted6128

    Жыл бұрын

    @@goawqebt6931 it could be liquid, ask yourself why solid? You can answer your own simple minded question yourself!! Best of luck to you!

  • @goawqebt6931

    @goawqebt6931

    Жыл бұрын

    @@metalted6128 it's just default intuition to assume it's solid (we don't often see gold in its liquid state in our environment), the burden of explaining is not on me, my position is the default one, also what is a simple minded question, questions don't have minds, and if you are referring to the mind of the questioner then you are making some big assumptions you probably shouldn't make

  • @jasonmpd2946
    @jasonmpd2946 Жыл бұрын

    "Even a random move is better than no move if the outcome is certain failure." Profound words.

  • @GeneralLee131
    @GeneralLee131 Жыл бұрын

    Two absolute legends in their respective fields. I haven't even started watching yet and I already know this is going to be wild.

  • @Rodneythor
    @Rodneythor Жыл бұрын

    Jim may have known my brother whom I loved with all my heart. Harry Donald Nelson was AMD’s staff patent attorney and won a lawsuit against Intel to gain 2nd source status for their 386 chip. He passed early this year. Decorated naval officer from the VietNam war. I’d be honored if Don left a mark on Jim’s life.

  • @sameer5316
    @sameer5316 Жыл бұрын

    Jordan asked all the right questions on topics alien to him, to bring out the best . That’s commendable.

  • @Dudewheresmycarnivore
    @Dudewheresmycarnivore Жыл бұрын

    Computer science and Jordan Peterson = heaven. Also, great topic! Staying on a doomed path is a choice, worrying about what might happen is a waste of time because any action is better than guaranteed failure.

  • @johns2220

    @johns2220

    Жыл бұрын

    Best engineer in the world.

  • @dmitrym3757
    @dmitrym3757 Жыл бұрын

    It is remarkable how elegantly can Jim Keller explain complicated and very special concepts.

  • @Bluboy511
    @Bluboy511 Жыл бұрын

    Very interesting to see two geniuses in completely different fields have such a fascinating conversation

  • @marinahellermann
    @marinahellermann Жыл бұрын

    Just discussed it with my son who wants to become computer engineer trying to explain what it means!!! Huge help for young people

  • @cedricvulliez1170
    @cedricvulliez1170 Жыл бұрын

    As a fpga architecture engineer, it's a nice interview. The balance between structure and creativity is the exact reason i love my job! 💯

  • @Okmanl
    @Okmanl Жыл бұрын

    Thanks I remember first watching Jim Keller on Fridman's podcast and was impressed by his intelligence and wisdom. Some other interviews I was impressed with was Jony Ive who was the Chief Design Officer of Apple from 1997 - 2019. And also Jeff Bezos. Who taught me to use a pretty useful thought experiment when making important life decisions. When he was deciding between leaving his career vs starting Amazon: "I was trying to wrap my head around how to think about this, and I think the best way for me to think about it was to project myself forward to the age of 80 and say, "Look, when I'm 80 years old, I want to have minimized the number of regrets that I have." I don't want to be 80 years old, in a quiet moment of reflection, thinking back over my life and cataloging a bunch of major regrets, and I think that our biggest regrets, in most cases, are acts of omission, its paths not taken, and they haunt us. We wonder what could have happened, and so that's the frame of mind that I put myself in, and once I did that, once I thought about it that way, it was immediately obvious to me. I knew that when I'm 80, I would never regret trying this thing that I was super excited about. There would be a hundred percent chance of regret if I didn't try and basically a zero percent chance of regret if I tried and failed, so I think that's a useful metric for any important life decision."

  • @sultanofswingdrift3021

    @sultanofswingdrift3021

    Жыл бұрын

    Terrific insight, I couldn't copy it so I screenshot it. Thank you.

  • @bcagz9835
    @bcagz9835 Жыл бұрын

    This is probably my favorite video JP has posted in a long time. I went to school for psychology and ended up working as a manufacturing engineer my whole life so far, so this one really hit home with me. Awesome conversation.

  • @RAPEDBYBLACKS
    @RAPEDBYBLACKS Жыл бұрын

    great interview. As a non technical person, I appreciate Dr Petersons questions and perspectives. It helps me really understand exactly what is meant by computer engineering and how computers really work.

  • @hawk00055
    @hawk00055 Жыл бұрын

    I wish I had this guy as my manager about 30 years ago. So many people I have worked for loved the problem - not the solution.

  • @fabrilabcommunications4305
    @fabrilabcommunications4305 Жыл бұрын

    Jim Keller is my favourite podcast guest. Wise and thinks in a way I can immediately relate too.

  • @coltonjackson
    @coltonjackson Жыл бұрын

    Jim Keller is my engineering icon. Papa Keller as I refer to him.

  • @skoopsro7656
    @skoopsro7656 Жыл бұрын

    Wow what a unbelievably prestigious guest to have on. Great land!

  • @peterfilzek671
    @peterfilzek671 Жыл бұрын

    The rate of quality classes on Peterson University is hard to keep up with but we all love a challenge

  • @kyleingram6330
    @kyleingram6330 Жыл бұрын

    I had to stop the last podcast Dr Peterson had with Joe Rogan when Dr Peterson shared his brother in law is Jim freakin Keller. What a family, man. It blew my mind they’re related.

  • @nnn-pr3vr
    @nnn-pr3vr Жыл бұрын

    I love hearing from guys like this. Very well rounded, real practical human being. A guy that isn't all theory but practice too.

  • @jnawprex
    @jnawprex Жыл бұрын

    I’m impressed. Old school approach, condensed and aggregated knowledge. I’d like to add one thing that is so devastating to the Arc/Eng ethos, especially in the ICT: lack of mentors (not a teacher, you could learn on your own - but the unspoken ability to adapt to work with a style/rite). Thank you a lot for this video, it’s going to be very important for lots of people. P.S. Thank you a lot for the K7, still good memories back then with Gentoo Linux compilation on them :)

  • @microcolonel

    @microcolonel

    Жыл бұрын

    Mentorship is extremely difficult in engineering, and a high performing engineer is wasted mentoring somebody whose potential is low, sadly. Engineering organizations are really really tough.

  • @jnawprex

    @jnawprex

    Жыл бұрын

    @@microcolonel That’s the point - it should not be a high performer - it should be a master in the craft. When performance is a key factor - where is the beauty of a concept, how so called “managers” are able to measure creativity without a meaning?

  • @CanBeCrushed
    @CanBeCrushed Жыл бұрын

    Fascinating talk, I love Jim Keller. He really distills complex ideas into their simple axioms. I'd love some book recommendations from him on the management front.

  • @BatteryAz1z

    @BatteryAz1z

    Жыл бұрын

    Check out his interview last year on TechTechPotato. I recall he talks a little bit about that. When he took on that management role he read many books back to back to prepare himself, and was surprised to learn that none of his peers had done the same.

  • @MrDutchgrass
    @MrDutchgrass Жыл бұрын

    This is the guest I was waiting for ever since I realised he was your brother in law. Even requested it once or twice in the comments. Two briljant minds! Keep up the good work.

  • @cody7500
    @cody7500 Жыл бұрын

    I've been wanting Lex to do another interview with Jim, but in some ways this is even better!

  • @surfboard661

    @surfboard661

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah we need a poem about love.

  • @hv4285
    @hv4285 Жыл бұрын

    Funny how different brains and modes of thinking work. I was able to follow Jim's explanation of computer, and the application of engineering pretty fluently (being an engineer myself). When I hear JP speaks so articulately, especially how he weaves abstract ideas together so eloquently and decompose it to practical daily applications, I didn't think i could ever write or speak that well but I started following Jordan's suggestion on "being precise in your speech" about 3 years ago and it changed my whole perspective on the power of speech and writing. Thank you Dr.Jordan Peterson!

  • @juanezxcore
    @juanezxcore Жыл бұрын

    Have the pleasure of seeing Jim speak in person several times. Excellent mind.

  • @sudosara
    @sudosara Жыл бұрын

    This interview takes me back to the fascination I had with how electronics worked while studying electrical engineering

  • @JackPoynter
    @JackPoynter Жыл бұрын

    At my current age and circumstance, I no longer work on complex technical problems (I'm almost 77 years old, I have health problems which reduce my available energy for planning complex things, and I no longer have the kind of equipment which allows me to do complex investigations in reasonable time.) But for many years, during the late 20th century I was a computer consultant, designing and implementing software solutions for general business desiderata. So, I'm lying here in bed II sleep a lot nowadays,) listening to this video and just enjoying the hell out of it. Your brother-in-law's work experience is in many (but not all) senses the same as mine. The jobs I was offered were short, (paid more, companies don't care so much about how much they pay for short projects, since the pain isn't going to last very long,), and types of projects I had performed successfully previously, or projects which no one had performed previously, but I didn't get jobs which many people know how to do, but I didn't. Learning curves tend to be expensive, and paying for a learning curve when it is unnecessary is foolish. Mr. Keller seems to be a person I'd like to know, (as are you, by the way,) I hope you all would consider that a compliment, it is intended as such.

  • @bujin5455
    @bujin5455 Жыл бұрын

    I'm such a big fan of Jim Keller! I wish he did more interviews. I loved the ones he did with Lex Fridman. It's neat to finally see Jordan and Jim do one together! Though, that means we spent a lot of time in freshman/sophomore level CS stuff. Never the less, some real pearls came out of this! 👍

  • @daniellekeough8095
    @daniellekeough8095 Жыл бұрын

    Yay! Back to the old format! So much better!! The feel of this is more authentic and less distracting than the “higher quality” of the new stuff. That was too sleek. This is perfect.

  • @Marsx4
    @Marsx4 Жыл бұрын

    Watched this partial interview on DailyWire but came to YT to continue. Happy to see the accolades for Mr. Keller from you all more acquainted with his work.

  • @zgelrevol9682
    @zgelrevol9682 Жыл бұрын

    I had always hoped Dr P would interview Sir Keller. Clearly a solid leader on top of a technical revolutionary. It will take weeks to fully unplack but his contrast of technical vs non technical with the layers of unwinding was dead on. It takes an amazing amount of experience in engineering and a tight focus on goals, with no BS leaders. Once those are gone - teams lead propper flourish. Is it any wonder why most technical projects either fail or come up short of expectations and turn into death marches or worse political death marches. If boardrooms knew their IT hosed half their budget on non productive bickering, controlling messages and only managing up - maybe more shops would be better to work in.

  • @petemayo
    @petemayo Жыл бұрын

    Wow, the best podcast I have ever seen. Absolute must listen for anyone in the tech / programming / engineering field. I wished they went into the philosophy of AI, as Peterson stated on Rogan that Jim Keller mentioned to him that AI is a bigger innovation than the internet. I hope a part 2 going into what AI is and could be and what humans and their brains are gets a deep dive discussion soon, if Jim is allowed to talk about it :)

  • @MittyNuke1
    @MittyNuke1 Жыл бұрын

    This guy is amazing. I didn’t even see this podcast when it came out. Knowing a thing or two about computers, really allows me to understand the magnitude of what this man has accomplished. He kind of glosses over it, but the 2P architecture he helped create is literally what powers basically the entire internet today. Amazing.

  • @herringt3
    @herringt3 Жыл бұрын

    One of your top five, Dr. Peterson. Of course, I’m an Engineer, so there may be *some* small possibility of bias. Well Done.

  • @alans3845
    @alans3845 Жыл бұрын

    Love this interview... fascinating to hear Jim Keller talk about how to innovate and when to abandon projects... I could listen to Jim tell stories for hours.

  • @inspectorclouseau3880
    @inspectorclouseau3880 Жыл бұрын

    Jim is absolutely right about engineering, takes all types to accompleace things

  • @americaisopentoinvasion
    @americaisopentoinvasion Жыл бұрын

    I was recently looking into studying computer programming. This is an episode that I didn't realize I would need; as someone who is a layman with computers. Keep it up Dr. Peterson. Every episode you put out has a clear, underlying purpose, and a theme that carries the conversation beautifully. You know your guests well enough to see that they have information worth learning, knowing, and thinking about. God bless you.

  • @g_r9567

    @g_r9567

    Жыл бұрын

    FreeCodeCamp here on youtube is a good place to start. It's a struggle, but don't forget to have fun with it!

  • @americaisopentoinvasion

    @americaisopentoinvasion

    Жыл бұрын

    @@g_r9567 Thanks a bunch!

  • @visavou
    @visavou Жыл бұрын

    Thank you both of you for doing this. Tremendous help in understanding towards several problems i will face in the future.

  • @zaknefain100
    @zaknefain100 Жыл бұрын

    Always enjoy listening to Jim. As a Mechanical Engineer, I have a great amount of respect for his work. Something he said pretty early on in this that struck me, is that engineering is more than just the aptitude to do the work. I worked in a large F500 company in a principal position for a little over a decade taking a rotational group of interns under-wing each year trying to teach them the trade. All of them had the intelligence, which was evident in their degrees but what many lacked was the creativity. That's not something that can be taught; you tend to have it or you don't. The ones that do, typically move on to design engineering positions with the rest moving into managing product lines and/or climbing the management chain. Engineering teaches a unique skill-set that I wish a lot of other people would latch onto in terms of critical thinking. It's built into much of the discipline and good core skills will allows one to step back and evaluate any kind of situation in a logical manner. We need more engineers.. computer programmers, etc... people with all the rungs attached on their logic ladders...

  • @mickmoon6887
    @mickmoon6887 Жыл бұрын

    Holy shit I never expected such collaboration podcasts between two titans

  • @JSMI
    @JSMI Жыл бұрын

    Good to see you Dr. as always. Keep the faith.

  • @baahbyjoe4850
    @baahbyjoe4850 Жыл бұрын

    Jesus Jordan. You’ve talked about this guy for years… Why did we have to wait so long? Some of the most applicable information I’ve ever heard. Currently build my business in Appliance Repair and it’s changed the way I’m looking at it completely. Thank you for getting around to it, great conversation.

  • @choonielfc
    @choonielfc Жыл бұрын

    This is my favourite discussion that you have posted. Please have Jim on again in the future. 🙏

  • @TheJeziera
    @TheJeziera Жыл бұрын

    If you want to understand computers better I recommend Richard Feynman's lecture on Computer Science. It's one of the best lectures (about anything) I found on youtube.

  • @BatteryAz1z

    @BatteryAz1z

    Жыл бұрын

    love his analogy between memory fetches and archival clerks / librarians.

  • @eli_escoto_
    @eli_escoto_ Жыл бұрын

    The amount of amazing people of all sorts that I’ve been introduced to through this podcast. Who would have thought. THANK YOU

  • @m.thousands1848
    @m.thousands1848 Жыл бұрын

    Enjoyed this way more than I anticipated

  • @ejdiajfnrjygf
    @ejdiajfnrjygf Жыл бұрын

    This was one of the best interviews I’ve listened to in awhile! Great episode, Dr. Peterson!

  • @dariofromthefuture3075
    @dariofromthefuture3075 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for asking about “what is a computation”. Loved that

  • @j.allenhood7429
    @j.allenhood7429 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent management insight by Mr. Keller. It is apparent he has put a lot of mental energy into becoming a superior product focused leader. People do not give the skill that is the result of this kind of analysis and effort on effective management enough credit.

  • @bingolittle8725
    @bingolittle8725 Жыл бұрын

    I'm glad people with brains like Jim Keller's exist.

  • @bonecircuit9123
    @bonecircuit9123 Жыл бұрын

    I could listen to Jim all day

  • @patrickb840
    @patrickb840 Жыл бұрын

    This was a phenomenal episode, I was hanging on to every word. Please have Jim on the show again!

  • @Rexolaboy
    @Rexolaboy Жыл бұрын

    This is an amazing podcast. Will finish this tonight!

  • @JT-jj3tr

    @JT-jj3tr

    Жыл бұрын

    I postpined things just to finish watching.

  • @rippletowave
    @rippletowave Жыл бұрын

    I am so glad to listen to this. It brought back memory of my microprocessor class in college and the use of registers etc. It was so refreshing to hear Jim Keller talking.. its just GEEK.. solid GEEK.. and I love it. and to find that they are related .. its a dynamic duo of intelligentsia.

  • @JeffMTX

    @JeffMTX

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah they don’t much let us see the registers anymore! Except on embedded uPs!

  • @chris3407
    @chris3407 Жыл бұрын

    I could listen to Jim all day. He’s exceptionally conscious and clear. Something about his word choice leaves me feeling smarter without feeling I’ve had to critically listen.

  • @ehnmusik
    @ehnmusik Жыл бұрын

    outstanding as always!

  • @walterdolen7169
    @walterdolen7169 Жыл бұрын

    Long interview, but well worth the time. His explanation of AI reminds me of a paper I wrote back in 1970 called the Law of Knowledge. But computers back then (even IBMs) weren't fast enough or powerful enough to use the "Law" I explained in my paper.

  • @thelement3363
    @thelement3363 Жыл бұрын

    i have heard jim keller on multiple interviews and cannot help but feel him as a brother and hold a love for him as such

  • @TheRealStructurer
    @TheRealStructurer Жыл бұрын

    Two of my favourite people to listen to. Great conversation! Thanks for sharing 👍🏼

  • @Rody_le_Cid
    @Rody_le_Cid Жыл бұрын

    Alexa proposed this podcast to me totally randomly, and I loved it, it was amazing! As a hardware, SoC and chip designer myself, it was painful to listen to Jim explaining technical stuff for Jordan but still thoroughly enjoyable. He's had such an amazing career, I'm kind of jealous. Nice talk guys! thanks!

  • @guyhuard278

    @guyhuard278

    Жыл бұрын

    Painfull also having Jordan cut him off to steer the conversation his way. Rogan wouldn't have done that.

  • @zillien195
    @zillien195 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing stuff! Thank you so much for the insight. Pity the sound wasn't so good.

  • @Teasehirt
    @Teasehirt Жыл бұрын

    I was glued - Really was not expecting this. Thank You.

  • @TheExard3k
    @TheExard3k7 ай бұрын

    Jim Keller....I didn't expect this. He's a legend. I'm an admirer of the work of both of them.

  • @chrisfeaka4250
    @chrisfeaka4250 Жыл бұрын

    this is an excellent discussion... i love this stuff!

  • @H.Hardrada
    @H.Hardrada Жыл бұрын

    As a computer engineer and a fan of JP this was an extremely enjoyable listen.

  • @davocc2405
    @davocc2405 Жыл бұрын

    Is there anyone in this family who HASN"T changed the world?? The stuff Jim's worked on genuinely blows my mind, some of the most important developments in the very gear I work with day and night for the past quarter of a century. Hearing his insights and how describes them gives form to so many things I've observed in my own career and indeed expands them vertically well beyond my own career abstraction layers. I guess you have to have followed the industry for a long time to properly understand the sheer importance of what Jim's worked on but needless to say - it's hard to overstate how important this stuff has been.

  • @Bartisim0
    @Bartisim0 Жыл бұрын

    The realism of the operations *is* stunning!

  • @df46433
    @df46433 Жыл бұрын

    Even the things I was intimately familiar with were interesting to listen to, based solely on how James chose to explain them. How cool to have that guy as a brother-in-law.

  • @Transform108
    @Transform108 Жыл бұрын

    Wow really cool. The K7 was my first computer build thank you for your hard work

  • @ClintBaxley
    @ClintBaxley Жыл бұрын

    This was a great conversation. I am a computer engineer and hobby in psychology, so the combination hit my sweet spot. Just about more than anything Jordan has done. And I have watched almost everything.

  • @kavatrag
    @kavatrag Жыл бұрын

    Dr Peterson, Thank you for this video and all the others. Thank you Mr Keller!

  • @tinkerwithstuff
    @tinkerwithstuff Жыл бұрын

    Really nice explanation of the difference between engineering vs. fundamental research / physics (some people opining that there should not be physicists who get money to research with unclear goals, but they should all just be engineers working on immediately obviously useful stuff, to not waste money, need to hear that...)

  • @tombaker4921

    @tombaker4921

    Жыл бұрын

    Be re no b no bro uynn

  • @faceofdead
    @faceofdead Жыл бұрын

    God what a pleasure it is listening to super intelligent people like Peter Teal and Jim. Thank you for stopping the AMD Bulldozen processors and thank you for sharing your wisdom with the world!

  • @SicknessesPVP
    @SicknessesPVP Жыл бұрын

    This is a great talk. Thank you Jim Keller and Dr Jordan B Peterson.

  • @stefanghiata9567
    @stefanghiata9567 Жыл бұрын

    Jordan, Jim: thank you! Holy moly what an ocean of knowledge Jim is. Please, do another one soon.

  • @uhohotdog3483
    @uhohotdog3483 Жыл бұрын

    JP you lost me on the 2nd set of numbers but I will listen along faithfully and learn 💕

  • @BogdanManciu
    @BogdanManciu Жыл бұрын

    Great discussion, big fan of him watched his discussions with Lex, I liked how he explained everything so plainly but with incredible but understandable detail.

  • @ihhazmi
    @ihhazmi Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so very much for this super interesting and inspiring interview. Thanks a lot to both of you for the value you're providing us with in this priceless video!

  • @CyanBlackflower
    @CyanBlackflower Жыл бұрын

    When I began watching this video, I had a basic understanding of what my computers are doing, I've developed my own outline comprehension of what is going on from doing my own upgrades, and repairs, driven by my curiosity, in part, in part because I've been either too cheap, or too broke to just hire other people to repair, or to just replace. The Natural world is constantly going through the process of making the decision on one level or another about replacement and repair. There are certain times and situations where one prevails over the other and describes the "primary" or ruling order from which certain classes of phenomena are governed or affected. (So much of the world at large as I know it has been made available to my perception and interpretation via some VERY vigorous exertions on my part, rather than through some prevailing and or official academia or schooling, which has resulted in my having to develop my own terminology for referring to and organizing various ideas.) Sometimes - even often, these are quite well aligned with the official technical jargon, and there are also times where that is far from the case, and even cases where I am seeing or using a model for understanding things which does not exist, to my knowledge else where and even to the extent where I'm seeing strong evidence I'm seeing and using models based on patterns that are unprecedented - and it is at this point where I wish I had the language with which to reduce these "abstract core" concepts into which, I have formed some of these making a kind of "irreducible residue" but which has proven to be VERY challenging to all but people with certain or specific mental acumen, made even more daunting by linguistic nuanced differences -as one common example - Anyway, I am really enjoying listening to Jim -and feel a kind of connection to him, as he reminds me of a couple of people I've met in my life with whom I have "clicked'' and are fond of. I like the solution over problem Elon discourse, and the perspective on it. I'd have liked just a couple points elaborated upon a little more... ~ His breakdown, of the physical & mechanical basics, combined which JBP's questions, went Far, as I found I understood exactly what Jim was talking about, and MUCH more, as many things just began falling into place. Then forming the missing pieces of bigger and bigger pictures or smaller ones. ~ So overall, even though I'm quite tired, and not the brightest object in the Universe - I got a lot out of this interaction. (I am a self educated, independent creator/ producer of music, among other things which truly involves close to a dozen distinct fields, EACH of which is a career field in of itself. This occupies the majority of my time and is quite a workout on my total being. A lot of Dr. Peterson's podcasts and lectures have seeded a means of understanding I have allowed to grow and mature by looking at ways to apply it to things I already use to understand the world at large. These and many other people post VERY valuable content on KZread, and IMO are not being employed in the ways which would allow the content to DRAMATICALLY improve life and the human condition. Instead We got Mr. Beast, and Shit like that getting all the promo. Do NOT even get me started on the woke/gender politic shit. Pardon my lingo, but I'd best get back to research, BEFORE somebody gets injured...