Many years ago I switched to Altra and love them, but I still think it’s funny how only Altra have the USP “foot shaped toe boxes”, how has the shoe industry been able to make shoes that aren’t?! 🧐Great shoe-off video. Loyd

@brewlovinrunner

10 ай бұрын

I agree. I can’t do pointed shoes anymore. I wanted to like Topo Athletic but they’re too narrow in the heel and fore foot. Altra is starting to improve on their foams. After the abysmal Via Olympus brick midsoles, the Torin 7’s are pretty squishy.

I’m closing in on 400 miles on my current pair of Inov8 G270’s, which is the second pair I’ve had I use after the first pair made it to 450 or so. Have a third pair waiting in the wings to take over soon. Not tried the Altra and I’m sure they are a fantastic trail shoe but for me the Inov8 G270 is amazing. It’s firm but handles everything on the trail except the deepest of mud for which I turn to my XTalons. I can’t recommend enough.

You had me at “zero drop”. Totally agree with the amount of padding around the heel with the Lp. (The Lp 7 beefed up a bit from the 6).

thanks for sharing. I already have 3 pairs of G270 v1 and will absolutely continue to run with new version.

You're right, as always 😊 Altra shoes are comfy and enjoyable, but something is missing in every single shoe I had, I would describe it as "pure running feels more difficult than other shoes", as you pointed out, especially at the end of a longer run. I can only compare the last Altra I ran (Lone Peak 4) with the Inov-8 Terraultra 270 and the Inov-8 wins hands down in every department apart from level of cushion...this is why I decided to leave Altra, there are so many better shoes out there and my feet are average, so no selling point at all

The Lone Peak is a tank. Unfortunately it feels a bit like running in clogs- heavy and not terribly locked down. I appreciate the Trailfly 270 as they do allow some toe splay while still offering a very locked down midfoot. It's a great compromise. I found the outsoles pretty comparable between the two no matter what the marketing says, LP offering more space for foot swelling, TF a firmer ride and better in super technical situations. You do you but my LP are now my front line shoe for trail maintenance where the Inov-8s I actually run in. Being a longtume Inov-8 fan it's nice to get their characteristic low stack, quick response, aggressive outsole balanced with some ultra friendly features without going maximal. Seems the perfect shoe for a technical 50k and enough versatility to go up or down a bit. The Lone Peak is a good shoe. Not for me in most scenarios but I'd definitely consider it for say a non technical 100k+

I have both shoes. For me the LP 7 is the best. The fit, especially in the toe box, is great as l have a broad forefoot. Also, as soon as l put on the LP 7s and began running the annoying post-run pain in my left knee went and l could run without suffering next day when walking upstairs. When l transitioned to the inov-8 Trailfly G 270 V2 they were tight in the toe box, felt less forgiving on harder surfaces and l had a return of the post run left knee pain. Conclusions: inov-8 Trailfly G 270 V2 are definately NOT a wide fit shoe, my toes felt squashed, insufficient impact absorption and ........ are they really zero drop??? LP7s are less expensive, great wide fit, definately zero drop, better for mixed surface running and no post run knee pain. Won't be going near inov-8 Trailfly G 270 V2 s again, a very expensive lesson learnt. LP 7s👍👍👍 Phil Burke

@GTE_Channel

5 ай бұрын

I have had the same effect with zero drop on knee pain. Have you ever looked up IT band syndrome? Your 'knee' pain is most likely caused by this. There are some easy exercises you can do to solve this even more besides wearing zero drop.

Inov-8 have been doing weekend deals recently, picked up a pair of the G270v2 for £75 direct from them 2 weeks ago, albeit in green but still great saving, worth keeping an eye out.

I'm two runs into the Altra Lone Peak 7 and first zero drop as well. I've never run in anything quite like them and the shape and fit seem to be perfect for my feet. I know they aren't in this head-to-head but I ordered a pair of Inov-8 (the G300 max) and as soon as I put them on they came straight off, back in the box and returned. They didn't fit my feet and the lack of padding in the upper just wasn't for me. Compare that to the LP7 upper and they're just fantastic! It'll be interesting to see how they feel on longer runs.

Good afternoon. Interesting comparison. Thanks Loyd and here is my like. A nice weekend for everyone. ⛰️🏃🌤️

Great head-to-head vid! I have both the G270s and the LP7s - and have put about 400k in both. In my perfect world I’d use Inov8’s sole materials - G grip, powerflow max, boomerang- to make the Lone Peak. The LPs are the perfect shape, the Gs have better grip and feel. Also, the LP uppers drain better.

@Adrian-hn8mj

4 ай бұрын

What is the difference in sizes between them?

I haven't run in Lone Peaks in years, but what disappoints me w Altra's signature outsoles are they get destroyed quickly on pavement, and where I usually run, it is unavoidable to pound some pavement on some sections. This was as true with the Timps I had before.

@Run4Adventure

11 ай бұрын

The rubber is quite soft on the Lone Peak 7 and that's what makes it really sticky on the rocks but you're right, it can wear down quite quickly if you spend time on the road 👍 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏 Loyd

@guzgrant

10 ай бұрын

That's why I have ditched the Altra. The lugs ware down way too quickly . Also I noticed they have their own wall , so to speak. After about twelve miles my feet suddenly start to ache . That said I managed my fastest 50 miler in a pair. I think psychologically they are a shoe trail runners want to be good but in reality they are heavy , flappy and dont last long .

Good review, I started running in 2016 and used Inov-8 upto 2022 but then they made them narrower, so I tried Altras but they didn't fit and the quality isn't so good. I now have SG5 wide fit for routes with a lot of road sections. But my new choice for trail/race/ultra shoes are Topo Pursuit (0 drop) and Topo Ultraventure 3 (5mm drop) and I rotate them to get a mix of 0 and 5 drop as they are very similar apart from the drop. Would be good to see dome more Topo reviews if you can get them to send you some samples 👍

@Run4Adventure

11 ай бұрын

I'm glad the Topo brand is working for you, they make some good trail shoes 👍 I'll see what I can do about reviewing some of their recent models, thanks for watching 🙏 Loyd

The g270 v2 are incredible, definitely improvement on the 1st versions which were already a great shoe

@Run4Adventure

11 ай бұрын

Glad you're enjoying your shoes Lewis and thanks for watching 🙏😊 Loyd

Altra’s following in the US is primarily driven by thru hikers and toe splay kooks. High in the mountains I rarely see any runners in them. I’ll wear Olympus on fireroad/recovery runs but lockdown is too sloppy not matter what lacing method you use. Innov G 2 is close to perfection for ultra racing.

@Run4Adventure

11 ай бұрын

I know Altras are super popular in the long hiking world but I still see quite a few American trail runners wearing their shoes Brent? 🤔 Thanks for watching 🙏

Good comparison! I use both Lone Peak and the G270. G270s are now my go to for long technical/fell/races. In the lone peak I think the flappy feeling you mention could be down to lack of a forefoot rocker as well as the extra weight. Like you say, the relative lightness of the g270 is a big reason why they feel faster, but also the slightly more pronounced rocker between ball of forefoot and tip of the toe on the G270 helps with maintaining good form over longer distances. But, when it comes to easy long runs i go for the Lone peaks, as they’re better for my foot shape… when I got into running 5 years ago I wore exclusively vivobarefoot and my toes naturally splayed, feet got a lot stronger and I wouldn’t be a runner if it wasn’t for barefoot shoes, but now I have to go a size or a 1/2 size up in any inov8 because of the more standard pointed toe box

@Run4Adventure

11 ай бұрын

Thanks very much, I'm glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching 🙏😊

@amandaball7116

11 ай бұрын

Totally agree with you. It’s so frustrating that Inov-8 have such a rounded snug toe box. Does the extra size really help or does it still compromise your big toe a bit (ie not allow it to lie straight ?)

@Run4Adventure

11 ай бұрын

@@amandaball7116 I would definitely recommend going up at least half a size if you haven't in the past. Inov8 shoes size up really small so if you're sticking with your regular size they'll be to small Amanda 👍

I've not tried the Lone Peak, and suspect I won't now. I replaced my g260 a while back with some g270 (old version) and got some Altra Torin 4s at the same time. I did mixed road/trail runs in the g270, and started using them instead of the Torin all my road running because the just felt better to run in, and safer and faster in the wet. The torins were very comfy for walking and easy hiking though, so they just got used for that.

Inov 8 make the best shoes out there ! They are hilariously underrated ! Best shoes I ever owned ! The x-talon 210…. Best ever !

@Run4Adventure

7 ай бұрын

It sounds like you've found a brand that's really works for you Phillip, It's really awesome when that happens! I have a similar thing with Saucony running shoes, they just seem to work really well for me 👍 Thanks for watching 🙏

Love the quality and feel of the inov8, gutted it is just way too narrow through the mid foot for me.

GUCR & Thames Ring completed in the Trailfly G270 v1, looking forward to the extra luxury of the v2 :)

@Run4Adventure

11 ай бұрын

Nice one David 👍😊

Great comparison. Come back and comment when you have about 400 miles on both pair, and I’ll bet the G270 creates a bigger gap. Inov8s are so durable

@Run4Adventure

11 ай бұрын

You'd probably be right John, Altra haven't got the best durability record! Although the Lone Peak is definitely one of their more durable models. Thanks for watching 🙏 Loyd

Yeah lone peak 7 upper padding is nice to wear, but when they get wet in UK it holds onto water for days. Towel drying and airing cupboard etc. The superior 5 were a bit better. Still comfy but less of the upper spongy stuff.

@Run4Adventure

11 ай бұрын

I personally thought it was a bit over padded and you're right about it holding onto water 👍 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏 Loyd

The Lone Peaks gained their popularity from been the Shoe of choice on long distance Trails/Hikes such as the PCT. I recently did 170km of walking in 5 days on the Camino de Santiago wearing a pair of Lone Peaks. I was the only one of the party with no feet or other injury/issue. There might be a better trail shoe for running for for ultralight zero drop walking/ hiking their the best…….

@Run4Adventure

11 ай бұрын

I know Altras are very popular in the long distance hiking world but I still see quite a few American trail runners wearing them 👍 Thanks for watching 🙏

I have both shoes and I agree with you. The Altra will be collecting dust in the basement.

Altra has a great fit but are just too heavy, especially when they get wet. Inov-8 are light and my pair of 1st edition g270's have lasted 1400km and are still going. The boomerang insoles are ace too. My favourite trail shoes.

Interesting your comment re: sizing on Inov8s. I'm normally a UK11 in everything and a UK11 works fine for me with my Inov8 G280s too. Now, my G270s by comparison actually feel a little LONG in a UK11 somehow, almost feels like there's a little extra space beyond end up of the insole inside the shoe, like I could actually go DOWN half a size compared to my regular size! Sizing is odd, isn't it!!

@Run4Adventure

11 ай бұрын

Wow, you find inov8 sizing to big! I've had to go up a full size in some of their models because they were so small. I also worked in running retail for ten years and I don't think I ever got a customer to go down in size in a inov8 shoe Sean? 🤔 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏 Loyd

Have you heard about the Topo RUNVENTURE 4? It would be awesome if you could do a review?

@Run4Adventure

8 ай бұрын

Definitely heard of them, I'll see what I can do 👍

The problem with the newer Lone Peaks is they lack any bouncyness or softness in the sole whatsoever, besides they run too big compared to other Altra models, also the lock on the foot is not so good...Altra should give up the EGO and the EVA compound midsoles immediately. ...other than that, the upper is pretty cool and in the 8 it looks even better in durability terms

@themuddyman

Ай бұрын

I noticed the LP7 was longer than my Superior 4.5 and is a sloppy fit. I can never get them fitting properly. Glad I'm not the only one noticing this.

The Altras look like an old pair of DC skate shoes vs the Inov-8. Also lots of people saying that Altras fall apart quickly, with very poor quality construction.

@Run4Adventure

6 ай бұрын

Some the Ultra shoes can have durability issues but the Lone Peak has always been pretty solid 👍 Thanks for watching 🤛

@_Chris390

6 ай бұрын

@@Run4Adventure I'm going by reviews both on KZread, and on the company's website, and Altra seem to have real issues with durability (Topo, too). Some brands more or less than others. Inov-8 seem to be one of the better brands, but still have issues with it.

My first first 🥇

Any chance of a Peregrine 13 vs G270v2? Love the Peregrines but my 12s uppers are falling apart at less than 250km

@Gekko186

11 ай бұрын

Same for me in the P12. When the upper gets wet it falls apart quite fast 😕 They’ve changed the upper in the P13. So no problem with durability, but now it’s a bit to stiff so I have a hard time getting a comfortable lock-down 🙃

@Run4Adventure

11 ай бұрын

I personally prefer the Peregrine 13's over the Trailfly. I like the fact you get a bit if heel off set and the super fits my foot shape really well! Sorry to hear that your 12's didn't hold up, have you contacted Saucony? You should definitely get more miles out of than that 🤔 Thanks for watching 🙏 Loyd

@07Corcaigh

11 ай бұрын

@@Run4Adventure Thanks. I had no issues with my 10s apart from the insoles slipping. I didn't buy them directly from Saucony, the seller is reviewing pictures I sent

@Run4Adventure

11 ай бұрын

@@07Corcaigh I hope you get something sorted out 👍

@07Corcaigh

11 ай бұрын

@@Run4Adventure Finally got a resolution, I'm getting a voucher for them. I now have the 13s. They seem to have corrected the problem area. Awful colour choices here in Europe (2 nicer options for the US) so I went for the white. Thanks for the advice👍

I picked up a pair of G270 V1, after finding them in a sale for just 59 euros. I didn't hear good stories about the LP7's, and since the V1's are already good, it was not worth it for me to pay a more than 2x price premium for the V2's.

@Run4Adventure

8 ай бұрын

59 euros, that's great value! 👍😊 Thanks for watching!

I love your clown socks... they suit the Altras. Lol

@Run4Adventure

10 ай бұрын

Clown socks? 🤡🤔

you could add the topo runventure to this comparison

@Run4Adventure

11 ай бұрын

I don't have the Topo runventure? 🤔

@neilbeacher17

11 ай бұрын

Not zero drop but I love Topo too. MTN Racer and Ultraventure Pro are great shoes. Similar natural toe box shape to Altra - Inov8 weren’t wide enough for me.

@bilaltahir9978

11 ай бұрын

​@@Run4Adventure my favourite zero drops are the new topo pursuits

its wierd inov-8 is true to size for me. These two is not playing in the same league to be honest. Inov-8 is great, altra is just reach a not so bad.

I've only tried first version of Inov-8 G270 and Olympus 5 from Altra. Both shoes only 120k Inov-8 irritated my right feet big toe Altra Olympus has big small hole in the upper. Big disappointment for such a pricy shoes

@tomashonegr8701

11 ай бұрын

My problem with Inov-8 is on my side...

Honestly I just don't get it. Hardly any flat shoes out there. I can't even wear a pair of shoes for an afternoon if they have a raised heel. Always been into skating and surfing, but trying to get hold of a pair of flat shoes is an absolute nightmare!! Size 12 with wide toe box.. I wear canvas vans 24/7 pretty much on the daily, but running shoes.. nothing out there that I can find.

@Run4Adventure

7 ай бұрын

It is tough to find zero drop running shoes with a wide toe box. Have you tried Altra shoes before? That is literally what they make, nearly all the shoes in their road running and trail running range are zero drop with lots of run in the toe 👍 Hope this helps and thanks for watching 🙏

@oldschoolwaverider

7 ай бұрын

Brilliant thanks a lot! I'll have a look!@@Run4Adventure

So many zero drop shoes have 0 appeal. They are decades behind style-wise, case in point the altra.

@brucemes2711

4 ай бұрын

toyota landcruiser/ landcover defender = square and ugly porsche cayenne/BMW x5 - sleek and stylish now which one would you trust on a long brutal trek through the bush? same with shoes... 20Ks into a long run you stop giving a flying fook about how stylish they are...